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' CARDIFF CITY SUSPEND TWO STAFF / ALLEGATIONS OF BULLYING '

Sat Mar 13, 2021 7:13 am

Cardiff City suspend two academy staff as they launch another investigation into claims of bullying

The club releases a statement on Friday night to state they are looking into allegations of bullying and poor practice relating to the academy.


CARDIFF CITY FC

Saturday 13th March 2021



Cardiff City have suspended two academy staff amid an investigation into allegations of bullying, the club have announced.

Back in October 2019 the club released its findings after undertaking a comprehensive review into the academy's practices and vowed to implement robust changes.

That investigation came after allegations were made in the Daily Mail that former Bluebirds academy coach Craig Bellamy had bullied a former youth-team player.

Bellamy denied the claims and stepped down from his position as coach before moving to coach in Anderlecht's youth system.

Now though, 17 months later, Cardiff have stated they are looking into separate claims which allege that bullying and poor practice have taken place.

The club say these allegations are "non-recent" but while the investigation is carried out two members of staff have been suspended.



CARDIFF CITY FC:

"Cardiff City FC can confirm that it has launched a comprehensive investigation into non-recent allegations of bullying and poor practice relating to the club's academy," the statement read.

"The club's head of safeguarding is conducting the investigation in close liaison with the Football Association and the EFL and in line with the Affiliate Football Bodies process and statutory partner regulations. It is being overseen by the club's board of directors.

"As a result two members of the club's academy staff have been suspended whilst this internal process continues.

"Cardiff City Football Club takes all safeguarding reports extremely seriously and there are significant reporting mechanisms in place for these to be made, either via the club's safeguarding channels or those provided by national governing bodies and external support agencies."

They added there would be no further comment until the investigation was completed.
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Re: ' CARDIFF CITY SUSPEND TWO STAFF / ALLEGATIONS OF BULLYI

Sat Mar 13, 2021 7:54 am

It's amazing what stir can be made by parents of rejected kids.

I'm going to guess one is Jarrad (unsure of spelling) as referenced in the Daily Mail during the Bellamy accusations.

The second (?) - very interesting as to who.

Re: ' CARDIFF CITY SUSPEND TWO STAFF / ALLEGATIONS OF BULLYI

Sat Mar 13, 2021 8:15 am

BarryWelsh88 wrote:It's amazing what stir can be made by parents of rejected kids.

I'm going to guess one is Jarrad (unsure of spelling) as referenced in the Daily Mail during the Bellamy accusations.

The second (?) - very interesting as to who.

You're going to (quotw) "guess"...? :? :shock:

Let it ride, fella; this is not the time to point a crooked finger and it will all come out FACTUALLY in due course...

No doubt see you for another episode of 'The Barry Welsh Negativity Show' at 3pm...? :thumbright: :roll:

Re: ' CARDIFF CITY SUSPEND TWO STAFF / ALLEGATIONS OF BULLYI

Sat Mar 13, 2021 8:22 am

Sven I have been anything but negative since David Brent left us.

Re: ' CARDIFF CITY SUSPEND TWO STAFF / ALLEGATIONS OF BULLYI

Sat Mar 13, 2021 9:26 am

Bullying is always wrong.
Nonetheless, football is a mans’ game and as such, players- even teenaged academy kids - need to sometimes toughen up.

Re: ' CARDIFF CITY SUSPEND TWO STAFF / ALLEGATIONS OF BULLYI

Sat Mar 13, 2021 10:01 am

Winchmore Hill Bluebird wrote:Bullying is always wrong.
Nonetheless, football is a mans’ game and as such, players- even teenaged academy kids - need to sometimes toughen up.


Should have stopped after your first sentence. Football is a game played by people of all ages.I've know a few promising kids quit because of bullying. There is a major difference between tough love and bullying and I think your getting confused between the two.

Re: ' CARDIFF CITY SUSPEND TWO STAFF / ALLEGATIONS OF BULLYI

Sat Mar 13, 2021 10:11 am

Different ways of dealing with it.. me old man always said if youre getting bullied physically, whack em hard. Doesnt happen again. Appreciate not all kids can do that, but kids with a tougher streak should also stand up..

Verbal bullying... well, thats life and you have to figure it out.

Re: ' CARDIFF CITY SUSPEND TWO STAFF / ALLEGATIONS OF BULLYI

Sat Mar 13, 2021 10:21 am

Don't tell me millennial parents of the snowflake generation

Re: ' CARDIFF CITY SUSPEND TWO STAFF / ALLEGATIONS OF BULLYI

Sat Mar 13, 2021 10:23 am

rumpo kid wrote:Different ways of dealing with it.. me old man always said if youre getting bullied physically, whack em hard. Doesnt happen again. Appreciate not all kids can do that, but kids with a tougher streak should also stand up..

Verbal bullying... well, thats life and you have to figure it out.



this is not about being bullied by other boys though....

Re: ' CARDIFF CITY SUSPEND TWO STAFF / ALLEGATIONS OF BULLYI

Sat Mar 13, 2021 11:01 am

BarryWelsh88 wrote:Sven I have been anything but negative since David Brent left us.

It's in your genes, fella; you just can't help yourself and will revert to type...

Let's not dismiss the fact you were negative long before Neil Harris arrived ;)

Re: ' CARDIFF CITY SUSPEND TWO STAFF / ALLEGATIONS OF BULLYI

Sat Mar 13, 2021 11:09 am

skidemin wrote:
rumpo kid wrote:Different ways of dealing with it.. me old man always said if youre getting bullied physically, whack em hard. Doesnt happen again. Appreciate not all kids can do that, but kids with a tougher streak should also stand up..

Verbal bullying... well, thats life and you have to figure it out.



this is not about being bullied by other boys though....

Is that true...? :?

Maybe (and this is where the guessing game is bang out of order) the two suspended staff simply did nothing to stop bullying?

As I said above, let the club do the responsible thing and let us know the outcome at the appropriate time

I don't recall Craig Bellamy being afforded the civility of being innocent until found guilty (which he never was) by many judgementals on here but maybe these people will?

Re: ' CARDIFF CITY SUSPEND TWO STAFF / ALLEGATIONS OF BULLYI

Sat Mar 13, 2021 11:56 am

Sven wrote:
skidemin wrote:
rumpo kid wrote:Different ways of dealing with it.. me old man always said if youre getting bullied physically, whack em hard. Doesnt happen again. Appreciate not all kids can do that, but kids with a tougher streak should also stand up..

Verbal bullying... well, thats life and you have to figure it out.



this is not about being bullied by other boys though....

Is that true...? :?

Maybe (and this is where the guessing game is bang out of order) the two suspended staff simply did nothing to stop bullying?

As I said above, let the club do the responsible thing and let us know the outcome at the appropriate time

I don't recall Craig Bellamy being afforded the civility of being innocent until found guilty (which he never was) by many judgementals on here but maybe these people will?



maybe.... :? :? :?
yeah ok ..... maybe there are martians too...
as for the CB thing ... at the time people were far more inclined to jump to calling children snowflakes than even consider there was a problem...

Re: ' CARDIFF CITY SUSPEND TWO STAFF / ALLEGATIONS OF BULLYI

Sat Mar 13, 2021 11:56 am

Bullying has such a decremental effect on an organisation and the organisation need to stamp it out.

I had a manager who bullied me. I just let his ramblings go over my head as I did not give a damn what he felt or said. 4 years later he managed to pass my tolerance level. I threatened him with a cricket bat across the head. Sometimes that is called upon. It was 6 months later I finally escaped from the place. A very toxic environment it was.

The guy lives in the same village as me. A right Welsh git he is but he is as nice as pie to me when we bump into each other. I'm civil with him as I don't intend lowering myself but when we depart waves all that is going around in my head is "What a wanker he was".

Re: ' CARDIFF CITY SUSPEND TWO STAFF / ALLEGATIONS OF BULLYI

Sat Mar 13, 2021 1:14 pm

skidemin wrote:
Sven wrote:
skidemin wrote:
rumpo kid wrote:Different ways of dealing with it.. me old man always said if youre getting bullied physically, whack em hard. Doesnt happen again. Appreciate not all kids can do that, but kids with a tougher streak should also stand up..

Verbal bullying... well, thats life and you have to figure it out.



this is not about being bullied by other boys though....

Is that true...? :?

Maybe (and this is where the guessing game is bang out of order) the two suspended staff simply did nothing to stop bullying?

As I said above, let the club do the responsible thing and let us know the outcome at the appropriate time

I don't recall Craig Bellamy being afforded the civility of being innocent until found guilty (which he never was) by many judgementals on here but maybe these people will?



maybe.... :? :? :?
yeah ok ..... maybe there are martians too...
as for the CB thing ... at the time people were far more inclined to jump to calling children snowflakes than even consider there was a problem...

Nice response :thumbup:

Wasn't particularly aimed at you originally but you show a certain ignorance in that post

I am of an era where real 'bullying' was common place and in most workplaces (sadly) accepted as part of life

Trust me, you didn't want to be an apprentice in many places back then...

I am not saying bullying hasn't taken or doesn't take place; it certainly does. I'm just saying people need to wait on the facts before villifying people who might be innocent of the claims made against them

Re: ' CARDIFF CITY SUSPEND TWO STAFF / ALLEGATIONS OF BULLYI

Sat Mar 13, 2021 1:39 pm

Winchmore Hill Bluebird wrote:Bullying is always wrong.
Nonetheless, football is a mans’ game and as such, players- even teenaged academy kids - need to sometimes toughen up.


Your post started so well before nosediving off a cliff :roll:

I played football for my local team from the age of 7. Football is not a "man's game", hundreds of thousands of kids, boys and girls, all across the country play it. Players join EFL and PL clubs academies when they're children, some players play in the first 11 when they're still studying GCSEs in school and before they can vote, drive, get married, etc.

You can toughen someone up without the need for insults, harassment or physically hurting them. Whether or not this particular case involved any of those scenarios is still unknown, but bullying is a serious issue and accusations shouldn't just be brushed off as "toughening up".

Re: ' CARDIFF CITY SUSPEND TWO STAFF / ALLEGATIONS OF BULLYI

Sat Mar 13, 2021 1:41 pm

Sven wrote:
skidemin wrote:
Sven wrote:
skidemin wrote:
rumpo kid wrote:Different ways of dealing with it.. me old man always said if youre getting bullied physically, whack em hard. Doesnt happen again. Appreciate not all kids can do that, but kids with a tougher streak should also stand up..

Verbal bullying... well, thats life and you have to figure it out.



this is not about being bullied by other boys though....

Is that true...? :?

Maybe (and this is where the guessing game is bang out of order) the two suspended staff simply did nothing to stop bullying?

As I said above, let the club do the responsible thing and let us know the outcome at the appropriate time

I don't recall Craig Bellamy being afforded the civility of being innocent until found guilty (which he never was) by many judgementals on here but maybe these people will?



maybe.... :? :? :?
yeah ok ..... maybe there are martians too...
as for the CB thing ... at the time people were far more inclined to jump to calling children snowflakes than even consider there was a problem...

Nice response :thumbup:

Wasn't particularly aimed at you originally but you show a certain ignorance in that post

I am of an era where real 'bullying' was common place and in most workplaces (sadly) accepted as part of life

Trust me, you didn't want to be an apprentice in many places back then...

I am not saying bullying hasn't taken or doesn't take place; it certainly does. I'm just saying people need to wait on the facts before villifying people who might be innocent of the claims made against them



as someone who did his trade in the 70s ..trust me your wrong.... bullying was not rife or common place { most people are not bullies or find it acceptable } and should bullying occur the culprit , normally a pip squeek { snowflake in todays lingo } would be dealt with..... just not through official channels..

Re: ' CARDIFF CITY SUSPEND TWO STAFF / ALLEGATIONS OF BULLYI

Sat Mar 13, 2021 1:49 pm

That’s my experience... and the best way

Re: ' CARDIFF CITY SUSPEND TWO STAFF / ALLEGATIONS OF BULLYI

Sat Mar 13, 2021 1:50 pm

skidemin wrote:
Sven wrote:
skidemin wrote:
Sven wrote:
skidemin wrote:
rumpo kid wrote:Different ways of dealing with it.. me old man always said if youre getting bullied physically, whack em hard. Doesnt happen again. Appreciate not all kids can do that, but kids with a tougher streak should also stand up..

Verbal bullying... well, thats life and you have to figure it out.



this is not about being bullied by other boys though....

Is that true...? :?

Maybe (and this is where the guessing game is bang out of order) the two suspended staff simply did nothing to stop bullying?

As I said above, let the club do the responsible thing and let us know the outcome at the appropriate time

I don't recall Craig Bellamy being afforded the civility of being innocent until found guilty (which he never was) by many judgementals on here but maybe these people will?



maybe.... :? :? :?
yeah ok ..... maybe there are martians too...
as for the CB thing ... at the time people were far more inclined to jump to calling children snowflakes than even consider there was a problem...

Nice response :thumbup:

Wasn't particularly aimed at you originally but you show a certain ignorance in that post

I am of an era where real 'bullying' was common place and in most workplaces (sadly) accepted as part of life

Trust me, you didn't want to be an apprentice in many places back then...

I am not saying bullying hasn't taken or doesn't take place; it certainly does. I'm just saying people need to wait on the facts before villifying people who might be innocent of the claims made against them



as someone who did his trade in the 70s ..trust me your wrong.... bullying was not rife or common place { most people are not bullies or find it acceptable } and should bullying occur the culprit , normally a pip squeek { snowflake in todays lingo } would be dealt with..... just not through official channels..


Depended where you work and it was down to the management to sort it out. That was were the problem laid.

Re: ' CARDIFF CITY SUSPEND TWO STAFF / ALLEGATIONS OF BULLYI

Sat Mar 13, 2021 2:04 pm

Bakedalasker wrote:
skidemin wrote:
Sven wrote:
skidemin wrote:
Sven wrote:
skidemin wrote:
rumpo kid wrote:Different ways of dealing with it.. me old man always said if youre getting bullied physically, whack em hard. Doesnt happen again. Appreciate not all kids can do that, but kids with a tougher streak should also stand up..

Verbal bullying... well, thats life and you have to figure it out.



this is not about being bullied by other boys though....

Is that true...? :?

Maybe (and this is where the guessing game is bang out of order) the two suspended staff simply did nothing to stop bullying?

As I said above, let the club do the responsible thing and let us know the outcome at the appropriate time

I don't recall Craig Bellamy being afforded the civility of being innocent until found guilty (which he never was) by many judgementals on here but maybe these people will?



maybe.... :? :? :?
yeah ok ..... maybe there are martians too...
as for the CB thing ... at the time people were far more inclined to jump to calling children snowflakes than even consider there was a problem...

Nice response :thumbup:

Wasn't particularly aimed at you originally but you show a certain ignorance in that post

I am of an era where real 'bullying' was common place and in most workplaces (sadly) accepted as part of life

Trust me, you didn't want to be an apprentice in many places back then...

I am not saying bullying hasn't taken or doesn't take place; it certainly does. I'm just saying people need to wait on the facts before villifying people who might be innocent of the claims made against them



as someone who did his trade in the 70s ..trust me your wrong.... bullying was not rife or common place { most people are not bullies or find it acceptable } and should bullying occur the culprit , normally a pip squeek { snowflake in todays lingo } would be dealt with..... just not through official channels..


Depended where you work and it was down to the management to sort it out. That was were the problem laid.



my experience { not that i can recall a great deal of bullying } was someone would be having a word before it got to management.... no doubt different people / different experiences... but generally people are not bullies.. and those that are tend to be not liked very much....
as for our academy.... something is a miss as this is the 2nd inquiry...

Re: ' CARDIFF CITY SUSPEND TWO STAFF / ALLEGATIONS OF BULLYI

Sat Mar 13, 2021 2:11 pm

Bakedalasker wrote:
skidemin wrote:
Sven wrote:
skidemin wrote:
Sven wrote:
skidemin wrote:
rumpo kid wrote:Different ways of dealing with it.. me old man always said if youre getting bullied physically, whack em hard. Doesnt happen again. Appreciate not all kids can do that, but kids with a tougher streak should also stand up..

Verbal bullying... well, thats life and you have to figure it out.



this is not about being bullied by other boys though....

Is that true...? :?

Maybe (and this is where the guessing game is bang out of order) the two suspended staff simply did nothing to stop bullying?

As I said above, let the club do the responsible thing and let us know the outcome at the appropriate time

I don't recall Craig Bellamy being afforded the civility of being innocent until found guilty (which he never was) by many judgementals on here but maybe these people will?



maybe.... :? :? :?
yeah ok ..... maybe there are martians too...
as for the CB thing ... at the time people were far more inclined to jump to calling children snowflakes than even consider there was a problem...

Nice response :thumbup:

Wasn't particularly aimed at you originally but you show a certain ignorance in that post

I am of an era where real 'bullying' was common place and in most workplaces (sadly) accepted as part of life

Trust me, you didn't want to be an apprentice in many places back then...

I am not saying bullying hasn't taken or doesn't take place; it certainly does. I'm just saying people need to wait on the facts before villifying people who might be innocent of the claims made against them



as someone who did his trade in the 70s ..trust me your wrong.... bullying was not rife or common place { most people are not bullies or find it acceptable } and should bullying occur the culprit , normally a pip squeek { snowflake in todays lingo } would be dealt with..... just not through official channels..


Depended where you work and it was down to the management to sort it out. That was were the problem laid.

Correct; it's a different worl now... :thumbup:

Re: ' CARDIFF CITY SUSPEND TWO STAFF / ALLEGATIONS OF BULLYI

Sat Mar 13, 2021 2:21 pm

The thing is these days it's procedure to suspend staff when complaints have been made ,it does not mean there guilty of doing it ,they do that in case it is going on to protect the person making the complaints,

Re: ' CARDIFF CITY SUSPEND TWO STAFF / ALLEGATIONS OF BULLYI

Sat Mar 13, 2021 7:53 pm

ion wrote:The thing is these days it's procedure to suspend staff when complaints have been made ,it does not mean there guilty of doing it ,they do that in case it is going on to protect the person making the complaints,

Correct...it's called 'Safeguarding' :thumbup: