Mon Mar 08, 2021 11:20 am
Mon Mar 08, 2021 3:35 pm
Mon Mar 08, 2021 4:51 pm
worcester_ccfc wrote:Looks like there will be more teams countries who don't tend to have representation in the Champions League and Europa League.
EFL Cup winners in England will qualify but I have no idea what happens if whoever wins that trophy finishes in a Champions League or Europa League place.
Seems that losers in the Champions League qualifying and Europa League play-off will also qualify.
Seems very confusing at the moment.
Mon Mar 08, 2021 5:22 pm
Mon Mar 08, 2021 6:19 pm
pembroke allan wrote:Isn't it an alternative for teams that are champions in leagues like welsh league ? As UEFA want to put in more clubs in prestige leagues talk of 7th place in premier league going straight into champions league groups rather than champions of lesser countries who get knocked out in qualifying rounds.. all about money for elite clubs and UEFA.
European super league by back door...
Mon Mar 08, 2021 6:38 pm
skidemin wrote:pembroke allan wrote:Isn't it an alternative for teams that are champions in leagues like welsh league ? As UEFA want to put in more clubs in prestige leagues talk of 7th place in premier league going straight into champions league groups rather than champions of lesser countries who get knocked out in qualifying rounds.. all about money for elite clubs and UEFA.
European super league by back door...
no mate ... its still 4 CL group places for whoever finishes 1-4 in the EPL.. just instead of 3 Europa lge places its now 2 with the 3rd club going into this new competition....
Mon Mar 08, 2021 7:09 pm
skidemin wrote:worcester_ccfc wrote:Looks like there will be more teams countries who don't tend to have representation in the Champions League and Europa League.
EFL Cup winners in England will qualify but I have no idea what happens if whoever wins that trophy finishes in a Champions League or Europa League place.
Seems that losers in the Champions League qualifying and Europa League play-off will also qualify.
Seems very confusing at the moment.
what happens if the EFL cup winners also qualify for a higher competition is the same as happens now... eg.if Man City won the treble the clubs who finish 6th and 7th in the league would normally take the cup places in the Europa lge ....only from nxt season the club taking the place of the FA cup winners will go into the europa lge...and the 7th placed club will take the EFL place qualifying for this new competition....
the champions league clubs going into this new competition are the first 20 eliminated ..
dont see much interest in this unless its your club taking part ?
Mon Mar 08, 2021 7:12 pm
pembroke allan wrote:skidemin wrote:pembroke allan wrote:Isn't it an alternative for teams that are champions in leagues like welsh league ? As UEFA want to put in more clubs in prestige leagues talk of 7th place in premier league going straight into champions league groups rather than champions of lesser countries who get knocked out in qualifying rounds.. all about money for elite clubs and UEFA.
European super league by back door...
no mate ... its still 4 CL group places for whoever finishes 1-4 in the EPL.. just instead of 3 Europa lge places its now 2 with the 3rd club going into this new competition....
was listening to talk sport recently and the argument was over whether 7th place in premier league and more teams from elite leagues should be allowed into champions league ... plus the dropping of champions of minor leagues like wales from entering champions league not sure what it was about but obviously someone was putting forward such an idea from UEFA
Mon Mar 08, 2021 7:55 pm
skidemin wrote:pembroke allan wrote:skidemin wrote:pembroke allan wrote:Isn't it an alternative for teams that are champions in leagues like welsh league ? As UEFA want to put in more clubs in prestige leagues talk of 7th place in premier league going straight into champions league groups rather than champions of lesser countries who get knocked out in qualifying rounds.. all about money for elite clubs and UEFA.
European super league by back door...
no mate ... its still 4 CL group places for whoever finishes 1-4 in the EPL.. just instead of 3 Europa lge places its now 2 with the 3rd club going into this new competition....
was listening to talk sport recently and the argument was over whether 7th place in premier league and more teams from elite leagues should be allowed into champions league ... plus the dropping of champions of minor leagues like wales from entering champions league not sure what it was about but obviously someone was putting forward such an idea from UEFA
i dont listen to it so have no idea what was said on there..possibly talking about this european league that keeps being rumoured ..... .but UEFAs plans have been to re organise and bring in a third competition for some time....
Mon Mar 08, 2021 8:04 pm
worcester_ccfc wrote:skidemin wrote:worcester_ccfc wrote:Looks like there will be more teams countries who don't tend to have representation in the Champions League and Europa League.
EFL Cup winners in England will qualify but I have no idea what happens if whoever wins that trophy finishes in a Champions League or Europa League place.
Seems that losers in the Champions League qualifying and Europa League play-off will also qualify.
Seems very confusing at the moment.
what happens if the EFL cup winners also qualify for a higher competition is the same as happens now... eg.if Man City won the treble the clubs who finish 6th and 7th in the league would normally take the cup places in the Europa lge ....only from nxt season the club taking the place of the FA cup winners will go into the europa lge...and the 7th placed club will take the EFL place qualifying for this new competition....
the champions league clubs going into this new competition are the first 20 eliminated ..
dont see much interest in this unless its your club taking part ?
That makes sense.
About the only thing about this competition that does make sense.
Mon Mar 08, 2021 8:05 pm
pembroke allan wrote:skidemin wrote:pembroke allan wrote:skidemin wrote:pembroke allan wrote:Isn't it an alternative for teams that are champions in leagues like welsh league ? As UEFA want to put in more clubs in prestige leagues talk of 7th place in premier league going straight into champions league groups rather than champions of lesser countries who get knocked out in qualifying rounds.. all about money for elite clubs and UEFA.
European super league by back door...
no mate ... its still 4 CL group places for whoever finishes 1-4 in the EPL.. just instead of 3 Europa lge places its now 2 with the 3rd club going into this new competition....
was listening to talk sport recently and the argument was over whether 7th place in premier league and more teams from elite leagues should be allowed into champions league ... plus the dropping of champions of minor leagues like wales from entering champions league not sure what it was about but obviously someone was putting forward such an idea from UEFA
i dont listen to it so have no idea what was said on there..possibly talking about this european league that keeps being rumoured ..... .but UEFAs plans have been to re organise and bring in a third competition for some time....
I only listen occasionally when I'm in car until mid morning to much arguing for my liking.
It wasnt about European super league was specifically about champions league qualification and the system used to allow clubs to enter ? hence it was discussed about dropping minor league winners and bring in lower position teams in elite leagues instead arsenal was example as were 7th at time... but guess it is a back door way to get super league without falling foul of fifa... anyway sure it come up again
Mon Mar 08, 2021 8:08 pm
pembroke allan wrote:skidemin wrote:pembroke allan wrote:skidemin wrote:pembroke allan wrote:Isn't it an alternative for teams that are champions in leagues like welsh league ? As UEFA want to put in more clubs in prestige leagues talk of 7th place in premier league going straight into champions league groups rather than champions of lesser countries who get knocked out in qualifying rounds.. all about money for elite clubs and UEFA.
European super league by back door...
no mate ... its still 4 CL group places for whoever finishes 1-4 in the EPL.. just instead of 3 Europa lge places its now 2 with the 3rd club going into this new competition....
was listening to talk sport recently and the argument was over whether 7th place in premier league and more teams from elite leagues should be allowed into champions league ... plus the dropping of champions of minor leagues like wales from entering champions league not sure what it was about but obviously someone was putting forward such an idea from UEFA
i dont listen to it so have no idea what was said on there..possibly talking about this european league that keeps being rumoured ..... .but UEFAs plans have been to re organise and bring in a third competition for some time....
I only listen occasionally when I'm in car until mid morning to much arguing for my liking.
It wasnt about European super league was specifically about champions league qualification and the system used to allow clubs to enter ? hence it was discussed about dropping minor league winners and bring in lower position teams in elite leagues instead arsenal was example as were 7th at time... but guess it is a back door way to get super league without falling foul of fifa... anyway sure it come up again
Mon Mar 08, 2021 9:34 pm
skidemin wrote:pembroke allan wrote:skidemin wrote:pembroke allan wrote:skidemin wrote:pembroke allan wrote:Isn't it an alternative for teams that are champions in leagues like welsh league ? As UEFA want to put in more clubs in prestige leagues talk of 7th place in premier league going straight into champions league groups rather than champions of lesser countries who get knocked out in qualifying rounds.. all about money for elite clubs and UEFA.
European super league by back door...
no mate ... its still 4 CL group places for whoever finishes 1-4 in the EPL.. just instead of 3 Europa lge places its now 2 with the 3rd club going into this new competition....
was listening to talk sport recently and the argument was over whether 7th place in premier league and more teams from elite leagues should be allowed into champions league ... plus the dropping of champions of minor leagues like wales from entering champions league not sure what it was about but obviously someone was putting forward such an idea from UEFA
i dont listen to it so have no idea what was said on there..possibly talking about this european league that keeps being rumoured ..... .but UEFAs plans have been to re organise and bring in a third competition for some time....
I only listen occasionally when I'm in car until mid morning to much arguing for my liking.
It wasnt about European super league was specifically about champions league qualification and the system used to allow clubs to enter ? hence it was discussed about dropping minor league winners and bring in lower position teams in elite leagues instead arsenal was example as were 7th at time... but guess it is a back door way to get super league without falling foul of fifa... anyway sure it come up again
hard to comment much without really knowing the actual topic...but UEFAs plans have been to make their competitions more inclusive.... where as 7 clubs from the top countries in the group stages does the opposite...?
Mon Mar 08, 2021 10:25 pm
Mon Mar 08, 2021 11:18 pm
pembroke allan wrote:skidemin wrote:pembroke allan wrote:skidemin wrote:pembroke allan wrote:skidemin wrote:pembroke allan wrote:Isn't it an alternative for teams that are champions in leagues like welsh league ? As UEFA want to put in more clubs in prestige leagues talk of 7th place in premier league going straight into champions league groups rather than champions of lesser countries who get knocked out in qualifying rounds.. all about money for elite clubs and UEFA.
European super league by back door...
no mate ... its still 4 CL group places for whoever finishes 1-4 in the EPL.. just instead of 3 Europa lge places its now 2 with the 3rd club going into this new competition....
was listening to talk sport recently and the argument was over whether 7th place in premier league and more teams from elite leagues should be allowed into champions league ... plus the dropping of champions of minor leagues like wales from entering champions league not sure what it was about but obviously someone was putting forward such an idea from UEFA
i dont listen to it so have no idea what was said on there..possibly talking about this european league that keeps being rumoured ..... .but UEFAs plans have been to re organise and bring in a third competition for some time....
I only listen occasionally when I'm in car until mid morning to much arguing for my liking.
It wasnt about European super league was specifically about champions league qualification and the system used to allow clubs to enter ? hence it was discussed about dropping minor league winners and bring in lower position teams in elite leagues instead arsenal was example as were 7th at time... but guess it is a back door way to get super league without falling foul of fifa... anyway sure it come up again
hard to comment much without really knowing the actual topic...but UEFAs plans have been to make their competitions more inclusive.... where as 7 clubs from the top countries in the group stages does the opposite...?
It's about money and inclusiveness who makes more money for UEFA Barry town or arsenal? So more inclusive it is for top teams more money it makes? As we know eufa and fifa are money driven and will do anything to increase revenue streams anyway could be voted on in 2wks apparently.
Tue Mar 09, 2021 12:06 am
Tue Mar 09, 2021 12:46 am
skidemin wrote:pembroke allan wrote:skidemin wrote:pembroke allan wrote:skidemin wrote:pembroke allan wrote:skidemin wrote:pembroke allan wrote:Isn't it an alternative for teams that are champions in leagues like welsh league ? As UEFA want to put in more clubs in prestige leagues talk of 7th place in premier league going straight into champions league groups rather than champions of lesser countries who get knocked out in qualifying rounds.. all about money for elite clubs and UEFA.
European super league by back door...
no mate ... its still 4 CL group places for whoever finishes 1-4 in the EPL.. just instead of 3 Europa lge places its now 2 with the 3rd club going into this new competition....
was listening to talk sport recently and the argument was over whether 7th place in premier league and more teams from elite leagues should be allowed into champions league ... plus the dropping of champions of minor leagues like wales from entering champions league not sure what it was about but obviously someone was putting forward such an idea from UEFA
i dont listen to it so have no idea what was said on there..possibly talking about this european league that keeps being rumoured ..... .but UEFAs plans have been to re organise and bring in a third competition for some time....
I only listen occasionally when I'm in car until mid morning to much arguing for my liking.
It wasnt about European super league was specifically about champions league qualification and the system used to allow clubs to enter ? hence it was discussed about dropping minor league winners and bring in lower position teams in elite leagues instead arsenal was example as were 7th at time... but guess it is a back door way to get super league without falling foul of fifa... anyway sure it come up again
hard to comment much without really knowing the actual topic...but UEFAs plans have been to make their competitions more inclusive.... where as 7 clubs from the top countries in the group stages does the opposite...?
It's about money and inclusiveness who makes more money for UEFA Barry town or arsenal? So more inclusive it is for top teams more money it makes? As we know eufa and fifa are money driven and will do anything to increase revenue streams anyway could be voted on in 2wks apparently.
its Arsenal.. but its actually clubs like Barry or who ever qualifies out of Wales that will benefit from this competition... as the amount of EPL /la liga / serie a/ bundesliga clubs in UEFA competitions remains the same...
Tue Mar 09, 2021 1:10 am
pembroke allan wrote:skidemin wrote:pembroke allan wrote:skidemin wrote:pembroke allan wrote:skidemin wrote:pembroke allan wrote:skidemin wrote:pembroke allan wrote:Isn't it an alternative for teams that are champions in leagues like welsh league ? As UEFA want to put in more clubs in prestige leagues talk of 7th place in premier league going straight into champions league groups rather than champions of lesser countries who get knocked out in qualifying rounds.. all about money for elite clubs and UEFA.
European super league by back door...
no mate ... its still 4 CL group places for whoever finishes 1-4 in the EPL.. just instead of 3 Europa lge places its now 2 with the 3rd club going into this new competition....
was listening to talk sport recently and the argument was over whether 7th place in premier league and more teams from elite leagues should be allowed into champions league ... plus the dropping of champions of minor leagues like wales from entering champions league not sure what it was about but obviously someone was putting forward such an idea from UEFA
i dont listen to it so have no idea what was said on there..possibly talking about this european league that keeps being rumoured ..... .but UEFAs plans have been to re organise and bring in a third competition for some time....
I only listen occasionally when I'm in car until mid morning to much arguing for my liking.
It wasnt about European super league was specifically about champions league qualification and the system used to allow clubs to enter ? hence it was discussed about dropping minor league winners and bring in lower position teams in elite leagues instead arsenal was example as were 7th at time... but guess it is a back door way to get super league without falling foul of fifa... anyway sure it come up again
hard to comment much without really knowing the actual topic...but UEFAs plans have been to make their competitions more inclusive.... where as 7 clubs from the top countries in the group stages does the opposite...?
It's about money and inclusiveness who makes more money for UEFA Barry town or arsenal? So more inclusive it is for top teams more money it makes? As we know eufa and fifa are money driven and will do anything to increase revenue streams anyway could be voted on in 2wks apparently.
its Arsenal.. but its actually clubs like Barry or who ever qualifies out of Wales that will benefit from this competition... as the amount of EPL /la liga / serie a/ bundesliga clubs in UEFA competitions remains the same...
Does it?
UEFA is preparing a significant expansion of the Champions League with a proposal for four additional group-stage rounds and backup slots for elite clubs who fail to qualify through domestic competitions.
UEFA's proposal is to increase the number of group-stage participants from 32 to 36, with each team guaranteed 10 rather than six games,
teams based on their historic record in Europe..........
England, Spain, Italy and Germany currently have four guaranteed slots in the group stage. But leading teams who don't make the top four of their leagues (7th place "arsenal " could still qualify, with three of the additional group-stage slots lined up for such teams based on their historic record in Europe.
The fourth additional spot could go to France, which currently only has two guaranteed group-stage slots while a third team has to go through qualifying.
The current format of eight groups would also be transformed, with UEFA instead using a variation of the so-called "Swiss system."
All 36 teams will be placed into a single league table, with opponents determined based on pre-season ranking positions.
The top eight would qualify automatically for the round of 16 with the next 16 teams potentially contesting a playoff to fill the other slots in the knockout phase. The plans were discussed by Premier League clubs at a virtual meeting on Thursday. The little countries will be queezed out eventually undoubtedly.
Wed Mar 10, 2021 7:52 am
Wed Mar 10, 2021 10:57 pm
Wed Mar 10, 2021 11:09 pm
pembroke allan wrote:For those interested and got time to work out what it means? Besides end of our cup competitions as we know it....
https://www.uefa.com/uefaeuropaconferen ... d-to-know/
Thu Mar 11, 2021 9:25 am
skidemin wrote:pembroke allan wrote:For those interested and got time to work out what it means? Besides end of our cup competitions as we know it....
https://www.uefa.com/uefaeuropaconferen ... d-to-know/
this conference has no direct bearing on our cups... what ever is decided as being the future of the champions league could well do...just how much the proposed extra games effect the league cup only time will tell....
Thu Mar 11, 2021 9:40 am