‘ Cardiff City’s Lee Tomlin absence explained ‘

As I said, not an injury, he is ill.


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Tomlin been ill for the last week.



Just read this / interesting
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Cardiff City’s Lee Tomlin's mystery absence explained as he publicly denies injury setback

The playmaker had been working his way back from groin surgery, after a five months absence but did not feature for neither the under-23s or the senior Cardiff City side against Derby County on Tuesday night

By Glen Williams

Wednesday 3rd March 2021


Cardiff City star Lee Tomlin revealed he has missed this week owing to illness.




The Bluebirds' player has missed the vast majority of this season after it was decided back in October he would undergo surgery to remedy a chronic groin issue.

It was a big decision, considering how important a player he is to Cardiff City, but one which he, and the club, hopes will benefit him in the long term.

The 32-year-old has been working his way back to full fitness and has turned out for Steve Morison's under-23s in recent weeks to get some game time in his legs.

He played 45 minutes in the win over Millwall before getting 60 minutes, and a goal, under his belt in the mini derby win over Severnside rivals Bristol City last week.

Mick McCarthy had said he needs a 110% Lee Tomlin before he can consider him and at the moment he is no where near that.

However, when he missed the under-23s' clash with Charlton Athletic on Monday, it prompted many to question whether he might even be included in the first-team squad for the Derby County clash on Tuesday night.

Indeed, Tomlin himself added fuel to that fire when on Tuesday afternoon he posted a cryptic tweet which included a photo of himself in a Cardiff City shirt alongside a football emoji.

However, when he was not included in Mick McCarthy's match-day squad for the clash with the Rams, talk began to surface that he might have suffered a setback in his recovery.

Tomlin, though, swiftly denied that, revealing he had been ill for the last week.





LEE TOMLIN:


"Been ill for a week, not just for 23s but for tonight’s first-team game as well," he wrote on Twitter.

It is testament to the embarrassment of riches McCarthy has at his disposal that Tomlin's absence has not been missed too sorely, especially since the new manager took charge.

With Harry Wilson and Jonny Williams providing stiff competition for that No. 10 berth, Tomlin will have a job on his hands to break back into the fold when he recovers from his illness. But if anyone can do it, of course, he can.

Indeed, even Leandro Bacuna is sticking his hand up to be first choice in that position after he scored twice in the 4-0 hammering of Wayne Rooney's Derby County.



With just 12 games remaining in the season, it remains to be seen just how much involvement Tomlin has in the run-in.

Given it is highly improbable he will feature against Huddersfield Town this Friday night, we are likely looking at some point next week for the player's return, in some capacity at least.

The under-23s don't play again until next Tuesday, at home to Watford, while the senior team won't play until the following Saturday, at home against the same opposition.


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He was very defensive over this Annis

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Personally I don’t think he will make the bench at all for all the remaining games!

It’s a pity he didn’t put more effort into getting fit and following the schedule laid down for him. He’s no where near the schedule laid out by MM the other week.

We have enough players to fill the bench who are miles ahead of him in the big picture. He might be a one off type of player who can change a game however the team/squad are playing fantastically as last night showed and in a million years MM will not alter that

We need to plan without him now. Any appearances off the bench would be a bonus but with current form do we need him? Especially at 32 and with injury and weight issues.

At the moment he is a utility player on the bench bought on for the last 20 minutes. Looking at the bench he will struggle to get on it this season with 10 or so games left.

He’s still our best player, remember ojo and Harry Wilson will both be gone in the summer and we’ll be crying over having no creativity again. Hopefully he gets back fit sooner rather than later. A fit Tomlin could be the difference in promotion through the playoffs or not

He’s still our best player, remember ojo and Harry Wilson will both be gone in the summer and we’ll be crying over having no creativity again. Hopefully he gets back fit sooner rather than later. A fit Tomlin could be the difference in promotion through the playoffs or not

IF he’s fit for December it will be a great addition to the squad. Anything else will be a bonus if day.

Costly, a luxury we can not afford no longer, its not just these last five months, its years of not turning up, if its an injury, then its illness, its a court case, its lack of fitness, its over weight and his attitude, be a great super sub, when he can even make that, 25,000 a week, no thanks

He’s still our best player, remember ojo and Harry Wilson will both be gone in the summer and we’ll be crying over having no creativity again. Hopefully he gets back fit sooner rather than later. A fit Tomlin could be the difference in promotion through the playoffs or not

IF he’s fit for December it will be a great addition to the squad. Anything else will be a bonus if day.

for December?

Tomlin is not a McCarthy type of player, wrong attitude and never fit and if you read between the lines, McCarthy has no current plans for him

He’s still our best player, remember ojo and Harry Wilson will both be gone in the summer and we’ll be crying over having no creativity again. Hopefully he gets back fit sooner rather than later. A fit Tomlin could be the difference in promotion through the playoffs or not

IF he’s fit for December it will be a great addition to the squad. Anything else will be a bonus if day.

has he been pencilled in to be the club santa claus..... ?

we should just sell him
he has done all he could for our club
said this for weeks now if he does not play for us his services are no longer required.
We are in march now and Mick McCarthy said that on February 23rd Tomlin would play games for under 23's and a week or 2 later he would be in the 1st team, but no sign on his arrival. I know a bit harsh because he actually could be ill but he has been away for a longtime now and we are a better team without him.

Time to do a deal with him and pay some of his contract of and move him out , can not carry him anymore

we should just sell him
he has done all he could for our club
said this for weeks now if he does not play for us his services are no longer required.
We are in march now and Mick McCarthy said that on February 23rd Tomlin would play games for under 23's and a week or 2 later he would be in the 1st team, but no sign on his arrival. I know a bit harsh because he actually could be ill but he has been away for a longtime now and we are a better team without him.

sell him to who Sam...

He was very defensive over this Annis

Deano, way way to defensive, I only said exactly what he said later, that the club had been told he was ill.

There was no mention of his injury coming back.

Hmmmm???

Made a huge difference to us last season. I dont think his work rate will be at the same level MM demands though.

Made a huge difference to us last season. I dont think his work rate will be at the same level MM demands though.

Prob 15 good games from his 50 appearances in over three years, City paying him millions of pounds, sorry just not worth keeping him, look at his track record, clubs soon move him on.

Made a huge difference to us last season. I dont think his work rate will be at the same level MM demands though.

i dont think there is a player in this division that can come on for half an hour and change the game more than LT does.... so you could argue he is worth every penny if fit.... but when you throw in how often he is unavailable your going to have people question his value to us...

He’s still our best player, remember ojo and Harry Wilson will both be gone in the summer and we’ll be crying over having no creativity again. Hopefully he gets back fit sooner rather than later. A fit Tomlin could be the difference in promotion through the playoffs or not

IF he’s fit for December it will be a great addition to the squad. Anything else will be a bonus if day.

for December?

Soz. Start of next season thumbup:

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Tomlins footballing ability can't be questioned last season he was our standout player and when he wasn't there we looked void of any ideas or creativity.

However my mate showed me a photo of him last night playing for the under 23's which I honestly thought was photoshopped. It's the worst shape I've ever seen him in physically.

I know he's had an operation and a lengthy spell on the sidelines but that's no excuse for looking as overweight as he did, you can literally tell by looking at him he hasn't been looking after his body and he only has himself to blame for the backlash he is receiving.

All that hard work he did getting back into shape and getting his mindset right seems to have gone.

Arguing with fans on social media and making excuses isn't going to help his cause either. I genuinely hope I'm wrong and he can get back up to fitness and we have the Tomlin from last season but after seeing that photo and the way he's acting I have my doubts.

One thing is for sure Big Mick won't have time for any player not being committed, injuries can happen to any player but I also believe that injuries can be caused by bad preparation and not being mentally focused.

Over to you Lee.

Made a huge difference to us last season. I dont think his work rate will be at the same level MM demands though.

i dont think there is a player in this division that can come on for half an hour and change the game more than LT does.... so you could argue he is worth every penny if fit.... but when you throw in how often he is unavailable your going to have people question his value to us...

That's how I see it. If we were 1 down with 10mins to go and had the option to bring on Tomlin or Williams, it would be Tomlin every time. More goals last season than Williams has in his career and not far off with the assists either. With how mick has us playing (high workrate) that is the only role I see tomlin playing as he's never been that type of player - not to that intensity anyway. Expensive luxury to have but thats the contract the club gave him and no fault of Tomlins.

With 12 games to go I can't see Tomlin getting much game time. But I'd imagine Williams will get injured between now and the end of the season so he might have some role to play still. Next season though wilson and ojo will be gone and havnt heard anything about a new contract for hoilet?? Will need a few players coming in just to get back to where we are this season - probably with little money available. With a full preseason Tomlin could be an important player next season.

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I have been looking forward to LT getting back to fitness but when I watched the highlights of the U23 game at Bristol City I realised we won't get to see him anytime soon. Sadly he has put on weight during his time out following his surgery and he looks a long from the instagram photo he posted in the summer of 2019.

All I've seen about his absence from the U23 game this week was that he was "Ill" and that cannot be helped but until he gets back to the fitness level he was at the start of last season he won't get near the first team, and that's sad because as the cliche goes "Form is temporary but class is permanent" and at this level Lee Tomlin is class.

We have Lee under contract next season so I hope he puts ALL his efforts into getting himself back in shape but that is down to one person - Lee Tomlin.

Tomlins footballing ability can't be questioned last season he was our standout player and when he wasn't there we looked void of any ideas or creativity.

However my mate showed me a photo of him last night playing for the under 23's which I honestly thought was photoshopped. It's the worst shape I've ever seen him in physically.

I know he's had an operation and a lengthy spell on the sidelines but that's no excuse for looking as overweight as he did, you can literally tell by looking at him he hasn't been looking after his body and he only has himself to blame for the backlash he is receiving.

All that hard work he did getting back into shape and getting his mindset right seems to have gone.

Arguing with fans on social media and making excuses isn't going to help his cause either. I genuinely hope I'm wrong and he can get back up to fitness and we have the Tomlin from last season but after seeing that photo and the way he's acting I have my doubts.

One thing is for sure Big Mick won't have time for any player not being committed, injuries can happen to any player but I also believe that injuries can be caused by bad preparation and not being mentally focused.

Over to you Lee.

I watched and he was well over weight, that is Tomlins attitude as well, be lucky if we see a proper fit Tomlin in April

we should just sell him
he has done all he could for our club
said this for weeks now if he does not play for us his services are no longer required.
We are in march now and Mick McCarthy said that on February 23rd Tomlin would play games for under 23's and a week or 2 later he would be in the 1st team, but no sign on his arrival. I know a bit harsh because he actually could be ill but he has been away for a longtime now and we are a better team without him.

sell him to who Sam...

Anyone who wants him.
Sooner we get players like him and vassel moved on we can look forewords.

He’s still our best player, remember ojo and Harry Wilson will both be gone in the summer and we’ll be crying over having no creativity again. Hopefully he gets back fit sooner rather than later. A fit Tomlin could be the difference in promotion through the playoffs or not

Outstanding at the end of the season, it will be hard to break into the team now, it will be about his attitude, if he really wants to play he is more than good enough, its completely up to him.

Do it Tommo we would love to see you score the winner at Wembley against the jacks

we should just sell him
he has done all he could for our club
said this for weeks now if he does not play for us his services are no longer required.
We are in march now and Mick McCarthy said that on February 23rd Tomlin would play games for under 23's and a week or 2 later he would be in the 1st team, but no sign on his arrival. I know a bit harsh because he actually could be ill but he has been away for a longtime now and we are a better team without him.

sell him to who Sam...

Anyone who wants him.
Sooner we get players like him and vassel moved on we can look forewords.

im sure there is a queue

we should just sell him
he has done all he could for our club
said this for weeks now if he does not play for us his services are no longer required.
We are in march now and Mick McCarthy said that on February 23rd Tomlin would play games for under 23's and a week or 2 later he would be in the 1st team, but no sign on his arrival. I know a bit harsh because he actually could be ill but he has been away for a longtime now and we are a better team without him.

sell him to who Sam...

Anyone who wants him.
Sooner we get players like him and vassel moved on we can look forewords.

im sure there is a queue

Aye, a queue in front of him to leave but not one to take them on (sadly)

God I wish he'd leave ,fed up with excuses for his absence, lack of fitness ,over weight appearances , lack of training ground appearances, just let him go Mick please .

we should just sell him
he has done all he could for our club
said this for weeks now if he does not play for us his services are no longer required.
We are in march now and Mick McCarthy said that on February 23rd Tomlin would play games for under 23's and a week or 2 later he would be in the 1st team, but no sign on his arrival. I know a bit harsh because he actually could be ill but he has been away for a longtime now and we are a better team without him.

sell him to who Sam...

Anyone who wants him.
Sooner we get players like him and vassel moved on we can look forewords.

Sam, he is not a car......

He has to sign the contract. I am more than sure that Lee is not going to sign away his £1.2 million a year contract for £200K .

How these things work is if we are so desperate to get shot we call in his agent and negotiate a settlement. Where his agent says, yeah, he'll sign for £1.2 million.......This is the Bale situation.

So we are left with him. All we can do is hope he gets as fit as he can be and we get a good season from him next year.

If i could be bothered i would look back through all the posts from his current detractors and how great it was when he extended.......