Tue Feb 23, 2021 7:03 pm
Tue Feb 23, 2021 7:32 pm
wez1927 wrote:After years of investment the players are finally starting to come through so it seems, at all age groups they are very competitive,well done the club for investing the last few years in the houses of sport and community based programmes really seems to start to paying off
Tue Feb 23, 2021 7:34 pm
pembroke allan wrote:wez1927 wrote:After years of investment the players are finally starting to come through so it seems, at all age groups they are very competitive,well done the club for investing the last few years in the houses of sport and community based programmes really seems to start to paying off
Wez listening to ex players they've said the talents always been there but get impression no manager recently willing to try them.... for whatever reasons club got in two excellent coaches who know what they are doing and a manager willing to put them in squad and hey presto things looking brighter ? Now let's hope tan as learned from what's happening and gets a manager in who is willing to use youngsters when they are ready not let them stagnate in academy like previous managers have.
Tue Feb 23, 2021 8:02 pm
wez1927 wrote:pembroke allan wrote:wez1927 wrote:After years of investment the players are finally starting to come through so it seems, at all age groups they are very competitive,well done the club for investing the last few years in the houses of sport and community based programmes really seems to start to paying off
Wez listening to ex players they've said the talents always been there but get impression no manager recently willing to try them.... for whatever reasons club got in two excellent coaches who know what they are doing and a manager willing to put them in squad and hey presto things looking brighter ? Now let's hope tan as learned from what's happening and gets a manager in who is willing to use youngsters when they are ready not let them stagnate in academy like previous managers have.
I remember Bellamy saying the talent is there
Tue Feb 23, 2021 11:41 pm
Wed Feb 24, 2021 1:15 am
TopCat CCFC wrote:The U23's have now Won their last 5 Games or it's 6 Wins from last 7 played
Wed Feb 24, 2021 8:49 am
TopCat CCFC wrote:The U23's have now Won their last 5 Games or it's 6 Wins from last 7 played
Wed Feb 24, 2021 9:07 am
wez1927 wrote:TopCat CCFC wrote:The U23's have now Won their last 5 Games or it's 6 Wins from last 7 played
I've been saying for the last few years that you don't see the fruits of the academy investment for at least 8 to 10 years as back then the youngsters of 8 to 10 year old need to progress through the ranks ,alot of club bashers been over the years had been moaning big time about the academy but the club has invested massively over the last few years and it seems to be working now hopefully a conveyor belt of talent will come through
Wed Feb 24, 2021 9:10 am
Wed Feb 24, 2021 9:16 am
Wed Feb 24, 2021 9:18 am
Always City wrote:wez1927 wrote:TopCat CCFC wrote:The U23's have now Won their last 5 Games or it's 6 Wins from last 7 played
I've been saying for the last few years that you don't see the fruits of the academy investment for at least 8 to 10 years as back then the youngsters of 8 to 10 year old need to progress through the ranks ,alot of club bashers been over the years had been moaning big time about the academy but the club has invested massively over the last few years and it seems to be working now hopefully a conveyor belt of talent will come through
Many of these players only joined in the last year or two, very few have been with us for over 3-4 years, we got them from other Academies. Early days yet but looking good
Wed Feb 24, 2021 9:21 am
Bluebird1977 wrote:It's about bloody time to it's been going on for years without any players coming through otherwise it's been another waste of money in my opinion. Some home grown players who would run through brick walls is what we need for the years to come if we play them regular and can hold on to them
Wed Feb 24, 2021 9:28 am
Forever Blue wrote:Bluebird1977 wrote:It's about bloody time to it's been going on for years without any players coming through otherwise it's been another waste of money in my opinion. Some home grown players who would run through brick walls is what we need for the years to come if we play them regular and can hold on to them
Ian, 11 years ago our Accademy was brilliant and suddenly it stopped for years, nothing came through .
I agree it’s about time and we now have to hope these kids can actually shine in the Championship as ever two years we were clearing out the under 23’s.
Wed Feb 24, 2021 9:50 am
Bluebird1977 wrote:Forever Blue wrote:Bluebird1977 wrote:It's about bloody time to it's been going on for years without any players coming through otherwise it's been another waste of money in my opinion. Some home grown players who would run through brick walls is what we need for the years to come if we play them regular and can hold on to them
Ian, 11 years ago our Accademy was brilliant and suddenly it stopped for years, nothing came through .
I agree it’s about time and we now have to hope these kids can actually shine in the Championship as ever two years we were clearing out the under 23’s.
Totally agree like I said above we have spunked money up the wall to date on it all otherwsie. I wouldn't build a chicken farm in my back garden for the last 11 years to say oh well let's release them as there not good enough every year. I'd can it in all together if that was the case otherwise your wasting money, it's not viable buisness wise as there's no returnsAlso it's not as if the club ain't wasted enough on legal battles which was never winnable to start with let alone 11yrs of zero coming through to the first team. Oh the joys
Wed Feb 24, 2021 10:03 am
Wed Feb 24, 2021 10:05 am
Thu Feb 25, 2021 7:29 am
Forever Blue wrote:Ian,
Bells now has a place next to me in Santa Ponsa, he told me it was so messed up our Accademy and needed clearing out big time and that’s only a couple of years ago.
Thu Feb 25, 2021 1:27 pm
Abergavenny wrote:It is always a strange time of the year for academy and under 23 when you see results It is usually this time of the year post Jan when teams decide who is likely to be staying and who will be leaving So it is hard to judge how strong the sides are you have been playing One of our best players who came out of the academy Ramsey was a member of a very weak age group at the time A few years below was a very strong age group where the average player was very good and the results were strong The only player to really come out of that was Declan John Others in that age group were players like
Tom Lockyer
Tommy O’Sullivan
Josh Yowerth
Kane Owen
Theo Wharton
In fact 6 of the players played against England and won 4-1 but never really made it high up in the game They even beat Southampton 5-1 who were seen as the best academy side and 5 of that Southampton team that day have played i. premiership and 4 have played for England senior team so crazy
Thu Feb 25, 2021 1:31 pm
wez1927 wrote:Forever Blue wrote:Ian,
Bells now has a place next to me in Santa Ponsa, he told me it was so messed up our Accademy and needed clearing out big time and that’s only a couple of years ago.
He also said there's a lot of talent through all the year groups in a artcle he done in wales on line looks like he was right with the way they are starting to come through, it takes time for these players to come through, the 18 year olds of today could of joined the club 10 years ago ,remember when Sam left and in-between tan coming there was no investment at all in the academy, we couldn't even get a pitch for dave Jones to train on in those days
Thu Feb 25, 2021 3:04 pm
Fri Feb 26, 2021 5:12 am
Fri Feb 26, 2021 5:19 am
Fri Feb 26, 2021 10:11 am
Fri Feb 26, 2021 5:37 pm
Tony Blue Williams wrote:The academy under Sam Hamman and before was first rate. OK at the time we didn't have a pot to piss in which meant that youngsters at the time like Joe Ledley, Aaron Ramsey, Chris Gunter, James Collins, Rob Earnshaw and Cameron Jerome got their chance and it was brilliant seeing them breakthrough and making such a positive contribution to the first team.
Also remember that the Welsh squad which made it to the semi-finals of the Euro 2016 competition had Ledley, Ramsey, Gunter and Collins in it from that group of youngsters.
Bringing our own through the academy is really a win, win situation for both CCFC and the National side.
Sat Feb 27, 2021 1:47 am
Sat Feb 27, 2021 1:50 pm
bluesince62 wrote:One question I haven't seen addressed, is what academy player, that we have let go (for whatever reason ) has gone on to earn a good contract, in the championship, let alone elswhere? Because if they were good enough, some other "top acedemy" would have taken them on. Apart from maybe one or two that slip through, no doubt hundreds are simply not good enough?
Not saying anything about past academies, because that ship has sailed, I'm happy at last that the talent is beginning to show, in the recent upsurge in results for u18's , & u 23's, and fingers crossed, a few boys progress on to the 1st team![]()
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Sat Feb 27, 2021 1:58 pm