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Two players say they won’t take the knee

Fri Feb 19, 2021 10:12 pm

Wilfried Zaha also won't take the knee anymore



Nottingham Forest footballer Lyle Taylor has told LBC that he will no longer be taking the knee before matches, branding Black Lives Matter a “Marxist group”.

Taylor’s comments come after Crystal Palace’s Wilfried Zaha also said he would not take the knee, insisting the protest is no longer sufficient.

Players, officials and staff at Premier League and EFL games have been performing the gesture prior to kick-off since last summer in support for the movement for racial

Taylor told LBC’s Nick Ferrari: “I took the decision because I felt that enough was enough... not enough people have looked into the organisation that has brough this all to the fore.

“I said before that I agree with the message that black lives do matter and something needs to be done about that to actually teach the message that the racial inequality and the societal injustice needs to stop.

“But by the same token we are hanging our hat on a Marxist group who are... looking to defund the police, they’re looking to use societal unrest and racial unrest to push their own political agenda and that’s not what black people are, we’re not a token gesture or a thing to hang your movement on just because it’s what’s powerful and it’s what’s going on at the moment.”

Taylor added that he feels sorry for white players because they cannot take the knee without being “branded racist”.

He said he had also been “branded racist” and “racially abused” by black people for refusing to take the knee in the past
Premier League clubs' shirts also carried the Black Lives Matter slogan during the restarted 2019-20 season before being changed for this season to feature a patch promoting the league's own anti-discrimination campaign No Room For Racism.

However, racist abuse of footballers on social media has been prevalent in recent weeks and several teams, including Brentford last weekend, have stopped taking the knee before games.

Zaha reiterated his belief that taking the knee before matches is "degrading" and insisted that on the subject of racism: "Unless action is going to happen, don't speak to me about it."

Speaking at Thursday's Financial Times' Business of Football summit, Zaha said: "It's becoming something that we just do now and that's not enough for me. I'm not going to take the knee, I'm not going to wear Black Lives Matter on the back of my shirt because it feels like it's a target.

"We're isolating ourselves, we're trying to say that we're equal but we're isolating ourselves with these things that aren't even working anyway, so that's my stand on it.

“I feel like we should stand tall.”

Re: Two players say they won’t take the knee

Fri Feb 19, 2021 11:25 pm

Well done Lyle Taylor.. first iota of sense on this since Morgan Freeman spoke on the matter.

Re: Two players say they won’t take the knee

Sat Feb 20, 2021 8:22 am

Also Bournmouth join Brentford in no to knee bending.


https://www.thesun.co.uk/sport/football ... e-gesture/

Re: Two players say they won’t take the knee

Sat Feb 20, 2021 11:34 am

More and more are saying it as gone past usefulness! But its interesting sky have put it into their speech before a game starts about players not taking knee..

Re: Two players say they won’t take the knee

Sat Feb 20, 2021 11:43 am

well done bournemouth hope city stop aswell :clap:

Re: Two players say they won’t take the knee

Sat Feb 20, 2021 11:46 am

Everyone should do as they fell, no one should be accused of been racist if they did not.

Me personally NO thank you and I want it to stop .

Re: Two players say they won’t take the knee

Sat Feb 20, 2021 11:55 am

pembroke allan wrote:More and more are saying it as gone past usefulness! But its interesting sky have put it into their speech before a game starts about players not taking knee..



what exactly are Sky now saying ..?

Re: Two players say they won’t take the knee

Sat Feb 20, 2021 12:03 pm

skidemin wrote:
pembroke allan wrote:More and more are saying it as gone past usefulness! But its interesting sky have put it into their speech before a game starts about players not taking knee..



what exactly are Sky now saying ..?

Before a Sky game I saw last week the commentator said something like - as the players take their knee in the fight against racism it’s incredible that some not getting it.
Seemed more of a complaint against racism in general rather than those not taking the knee as far as I could see. Unless there was a different message before a different game.

Re: Two players say they won’t take the knee

Sat Feb 20, 2021 12:13 pm

bluebirdoct1962 wrote:
skidemin wrote:
pembroke allan wrote:More and more are saying it as gone past usefulness! But its interesting sky have put it into their speech before a game starts about players not taking knee..



what exactly are Sky now saying ..?

Before a Sky game I saw last week the commentator said something like - as the players take their knee in the fight against racism it’s incredible that some not getting it.
Seemed more of a complaint against racism in general rather than those not taking the knee as far as I could see. Unless there was a different message before a different game.



It was more about them highlighting while some players didn't take knee the message is the same.... was just way they put it as if all players should be doing it.

Re: Two players say they won’t take the knee

Sat Feb 20, 2021 12:17 pm

pembroke allan wrote:
bluebirdoct1962 wrote:
skidemin wrote:
pembroke allan wrote:More and more are saying it as gone past usefulness! But its interesting sky have put it into their speech before a game starts about players not taking knee..



what exactly are Sky now saying ..?

Before a Sky game I saw last week the commentator said something like - as the players take their knee in the fight against racism it’s incredible that some not getting it.
Seemed more of a complaint against racism in general rather than those not taking the knee as far as I could see. Unless there was a different message before a different game.



It was more about them highlighting while some players didn't take knee the message is the same.... was just way they put it as if all players should be doing it.



i did hear what the commentator said as the players were doing it last Tuesday.. about how some still cant grasp what is a simple message .. but thought you meant something other

Re: Two players say they won’t take the knee

Sat Feb 20, 2021 1:01 pm

pembroke allan wrote:
bluebirdoct1962 wrote:
skidemin wrote:
pembroke allan wrote:More and more are saying it as gone past usefulness! But its interesting sky have put it into their speech before a game starts about players not taking knee..



what exactly are Sky now saying ..?

Before a Sky game I saw last week the commentator said something like - as the players take their knee in the fight against racism it’s incredible that some not getting it.
Seemed more of a complaint against racism in general rather than those not taking the knee as far as I could see. Unless there was a different message before a different game.



It was more about them highlighting while some players didn't take knee the message is the same.... was just way they put it as if all players should be doing it.




100% if a player or anyone does not want to do it, they should not be forced in to it and nothing bad should be said.

Personally I Totally disagree with doing it and would never do it.

The only persons I would it to us My Wife/ Children, Soldiers who sacrificed for our freedom in the Uk and The Queen ( a few comments will be said, but if they were introduced to her, I believe they would ).

Re: Two players say they won’t take the knee

Sat Feb 20, 2021 1:11 pm

skidemin wrote:
pembroke allan wrote:
bluebirdoct1962 wrote:
skidemin wrote:
pembroke allan wrote:More and more are saying it as gone past usefulness! But its interesting sky have put it into their speech before a game starts about players not taking knee..



what exactly are Sky now saying ..?

Before a Sky game I saw last week the commentator said something like - as the players take their knee in the fight against racism it’s incredible that some not getting it.
Seemed more of a complaint against racism in general rather than those not taking the knee as far as I could see. Unless there was a different message before a different game.



It was more about them highlighting while some players didn't take knee the message is the same.... was just way they put it as if all players should be doing it.



i did hear what the commentator said as the players were doing it last Tuesday.. about how some still cant grasp what is a simple message .. but thought you meant something other

Yes that’s what I heard.

Re: Two players say they won’t take the knee

Sat Feb 20, 2021 5:44 pm

Forever Blue wrote:
pembroke allan wrote:
bluebirdoct1962 wrote:
skidemin wrote:
pembroke allan wrote:More and more are saying it as gone past usefulness! But its interesting sky have put it into their speech before a game starts about players not taking knee..



what exactly are Sky now saying ..?

Before a Sky game I saw last week the commentator said something like - as the players take their knee in the fight against racism it’s incredible that some not getting it.
Seemed more of a complaint against racism in general rather than those not taking the knee as far as I could see. Unless there was a different message before a different game.



It was more about them highlighting while some players didn't take knee the message is the same.... was just way they put it as if all players should be doing it.




100% if a player or anyone does not want to do it, they should not be forced in to it and nothing bad should be said.

Personally I Totally disagree with doing it and would never do it.

The only persons I would it to us My Wife/ Children, Soldiers who sacrificed for our freedom in the Uk and The Queen ( a few comments will be said, but if they were introduced to her, I believe they would ).


Agreed Annis I won’t get down on my knee to no one. And especially to a career criminal or some Marxist group.

Re: Two players say they won’t take the knee

Sat Feb 20, 2021 5:48 pm

Ned (Worcester) Why did you change my heading for ? Just wondering no great shakes but I liked my heading the way it was :?: :? :?