Fri Jun 25, 2021 11:12 am
skidemin wrote:WestCoastBlue wrote:C. Rombie-Coat wrote:Are you happy that the British Government has been using psychological warfare on it's own population?
'The Government’s public health messaging had relied heavily on fear inflation, shaming and scapegoating to influence the behaviour of the British public.'
Summary article with links to more detail:
https://www.hartgroup.org/covert-psychological-nudges/
How's that different to any of the ways of getting people to sign up to the armed forces? Or political ads? Or ads in general?
Coca Cola, Ladbrokes, McDonalds, etc don't just film an ad chuck it on the air and call it a day. There's obscene amounts of cash involved and hours and hours of tweaking, fine tuning and editing to make sure their advert is stuck in your brain so you choose their product and not someone else.
Boris Johnson's bridge to Ireland is pure nonsensical fantasy but run enough articles and mention it often enough and you start changing the connection between "Boris" and "Bridge" from his failed London garden bridge to the man with bold and ambitious plan to improve the UK's infrastructure.
Likewise when Boris talks about making and painting model busses in his spare time, you can steer the narrative away from pictures of Boris in front of the "£350m NHS" Brexit bus.
When the government tweet out social distancing guidelines which include "Keep 2 metres apart, that's the equivalent of 3 fridges" it's odd enough and silly enough people talk about it and stop associating fridges with Boris Johnson hiding in a fridge to avoid reporters.
This isn't some deep secret that's been uncovered that blows open the whole thing open. It's standard practice and has been for centuries.
correct....a pandemic is being treated as if its coca cola and shouldnt be....
Fri Jun 25, 2021 2:50 pm
Fri Jun 25, 2021 6:47 pm
WestCoastBlue wrote:skidemin wrote:WestCoastBlue wrote:C. Rombie-Coat wrote:Are you happy that the British Government has been using psychological warfare on it's own population?
'The Government’s public health messaging had relied heavily on fear inflation, shaming and scapegoating to influence the behaviour of the British public.'
Summary article with links to more detail:
https://www.hartgroup.org/covert-psychological-nudges/
How's that different to any of the ways of getting people to sign up to the armed forces? Or political ads? Or ads in general?
Coca Cola, Ladbrokes, McDonalds, etc don't just film an ad chuck it on the air and call it a day. There's obscene amounts of cash involved and hours and hours of tweaking, fine tuning and editing to make sure their advert is stuck in your brain so you choose their product and not someone else.
Boris Johnson's bridge to Ireland is pure nonsensical fantasy but run enough articles and mention it often enough and you start changing the connection between "Boris" and "Bridge" from his failed London garden bridge to the man with bold and ambitious plan to improve the UK's infrastructure.
Likewise when Boris talks about making and painting model busses in his spare time, you can steer the narrative away from pictures of Boris in front of the "£350m NHS" Brexit bus.
When the government tweet out social distancing guidelines which include "Keep 2 metres apart, that's the equivalent of 3 fridges" it's odd enough and silly enough people talk about it and stop associating fridges with Boris Johnson hiding in a fridge to avoid reporters.
This isn't some deep secret that's been uncovered that blows open the whole thing open. It's standard practice and has been for centuries.
correct....a pandemic is being treated as if its coca cola and shouldnt be....
Clearly that was the point I was making
Maybe check out some propaganda from WW1 and WW2 to see how governments “relied heavily on fear inflation, shaming and scapegoating to influence the behaviour of the British public”
Or the wars in the Middle East. Or the immigrant crisis in the lead up to Brexit. Or how public views on the miners strikes or suffragettes were swayed.
Sat Jun 26, 2021 10:26 am
Sat Jun 26, 2021 11:55 am
MOZZER1 wrote:the latest European ( EU) COVID-19 Vaccine Adverse Drug Reaction figures from the European Medicine Agency up until June 19'th
https://vaccineimpact.com/2021/15472-de ... -19-shots/
If these figures are correct I would have thought main stream media would have picked up on this by now ?
Sat Jun 26, 2021 12:00 pm
skidemin wrote:WestCoastBlue wrote:skidemin wrote:WestCoastBlue wrote:C. Rombie-Coat wrote:Are you happy that the British Government has been using psychological warfare on it's own population?
'The Government’s public health messaging had relied heavily on fear inflation, shaming and scapegoating to influence the behaviour of the British public.'
Summary article with links to more detail:
https://www.hartgroup.org/covert-psychological-nudges/
How's that different to any of the ways of getting people to sign up to the armed forces? Or political ads? Or ads in general?
Coca Cola, Ladbrokes, McDonalds, etc don't just film an ad chuck it on the air and call it a day. There's obscene amounts of cash involved and hours and hours of tweaking, fine tuning and editing to make sure their advert is stuck in your brain so you choose their product and not someone else.
Boris Johnson's bridge to Ireland is pure nonsensical fantasy but run enough articles and mention it often enough and you start changing the connection between "Boris" and "Bridge" from his failed London garden bridge to the man with bold and ambitious plan to improve the UK's infrastructure.
Likewise when Boris talks about making and painting model busses in his spare time, you can steer the narrative away from pictures of Boris in front of the "£350m NHS" Brexit bus.
When the government tweet out social distancing guidelines which include "Keep 2 metres apart, that's the equivalent of 3 fridges" it's odd enough and silly enough people talk about it and stop associating fridges with Boris Johnson hiding in a fridge to avoid reporters.
This isn't some deep secret that's been uncovered that blows open the whole thing open. It's standard practice and has been for centuries.
correct....a pandemic is being treated as if its coca cola and shouldnt be....
Clearly that was the point I was making
Maybe check out some propaganda from WW1 and WW2 to see how governments “relied heavily on fear inflation, shaming and scapegoating to influence the behaviour of the British public”
Or the wars in the Middle East. Or the immigrant crisis in the lead up to Brexit. Or how public views on the miners strikes or suffragettes were swayed.
you can add as many look at the ceiling things as you like.....and as many non comparisons because just like EVERYTHING else / until wiki grows an arm and can reach out and shake you , your going to continue with a few lists but zero grasp......
you seriously think a government should be treating a pandemic like a coca cola campaign...?
Sat Jun 26, 2021 8:19 pm
WestCoastBlue wrote:skidemin wrote:WestCoastBlue wrote:skidemin wrote:WestCoastBlue wrote:C. Rombie-Coat wrote:Are you happy that the British Government has been using psychological warfare on it's own population?
'The Government’s public health messaging had relied heavily on fear inflation, shaming and scapegoating to influence the behaviour of the British public.'
Summary article with links to more detail:
https://www.hartgroup.org/covert-psychological-nudges/
How's that different to any of the ways of getting people to sign up to the armed forces? Or political ads? Or ads in general?
Coca Cola, Ladbrokes, McDonalds, etc don't just film an ad chuck it on the air and call it a day. There's obscene amounts of cash involved and hours and hours of tweaking, fine tuning and editing to make sure their advert is stuck in your brain so you choose their product and not someone else.
Boris Johnson's bridge to Ireland is pure nonsensical fantasy but run enough articles and mention it often enough and you start changing the connection between "Boris" and "Bridge" from his failed London garden bridge to the man with bold and ambitious plan to improve the UK's infrastructure.
Likewise when Boris talks about making and painting model busses in his spare time, you can steer the narrative away from pictures of Boris in front of the "£350m NHS" Brexit bus.
When the government tweet out social distancing guidelines which include "Keep 2 metres apart, that's the equivalent of 3 fridges" it's odd enough and silly enough people talk about it and stop associating fridges with Boris Johnson hiding in a fridge to avoid reporters.
This isn't some deep secret that's been uncovered that blows open the whole thing open. It's standard practice and has been for centuries.
correct....a pandemic is being treated as if its coca cola and shouldnt be....
Clearly that was the point I was making
Maybe check out some propaganda from WW1 and WW2 to see how governments “relied heavily on fear inflation, shaming and scapegoating to influence the behaviour of the British public”
Or the wars in the Middle East. Or the immigrant crisis in the lead up to Brexit. Or how public views on the miners strikes or suffragettes were swayed.
you can add as many look at the ceiling things as you like.....and as many non comparisons because just like EVERYTHING else / until wiki grows an arm and can reach out and shake you , your going to continue with a few lists but zero grasp......
you seriously think a government should be treating a pandemic like a coca cola campaign...?
Again, not what I said is it. Do they let you on planes being as dense as you are?
The OP and the article they've linked seems to think propaganda and subliminal messaging are some sneaky new trick that Boris and co have stumbled on. It's been around forever, long before Coca Cola were doing it.
Currently the government's biggest priority is opening up from lockdown, the easiest and most effective way is to vaccinate the population.
In a time of war the priority is getting people to fight and be willing to die. In a time of poor polling the priority is prove they're an effective government. In times of social unrest the priority is stop people joining the protesters and show that their cause isn't worth it.
And finally for Coca Cola, their priority is sell their product.
In all these cases the tried and tested method is advertising, propaganda, subliminal messaging, etc. It's not the "Coca Cola" method, it's the most effective one.
Sat Jun 26, 2021 10:38 pm
Mon Jun 28, 2021 3:21 pm
Mon Jun 28, 2021 3:25 pm
TopCat CCFC wrote:Hancock - Gone
Mon Jun 28, 2021 4:23 pm
Bluebina wrote:Wow still going, for the record everyone should do what they want, I don't think people who refuse are selfish or irresponsible, it's your prerogative do what you think is best for you.
My belief is that people are at less risk from taking the vaccine than not, but that's just my view and the majority of the medical profusion ad people will disagree.
One observation is that the virus is now spreading mostly among youngsters and giving them immunity without causing them too much harm, which is potentially a good alternative to the vaccine as long as they don't infect very elderly relatives, especially if they are not double jabbed. One way or the other immunity is growing quickly which is a good thing.
I think we are slowly getting on top of this virus, and hopefully these posts drop off the board and into history, like the Brexit posts.
Good luck bluebirds lets hope we are all safe and supporting our team again very soon, whichever side we are on with this debate
Tue Jun 29, 2021 8:37 pm
pembroke allan wrote:Bluebina wrote:Wow still going, for the record everyone should do what they want, I don't think people who refuse are selfish or irresponsible, it's your prerogative do what you think is best for you.
My belief is that people are at less risk from taking the vaccine than not, but that's just my view and the majority of the medical profusion ad people will disagree.
One observation is that the virus is now spreading mostly among youngsters and giving them immunity without causing them too much harm, which is potentially a good alternative to the vaccine as long as they don't infect very elderly relatives, especially if they are not double jabbed. One way or the other immunity is growing quickly which is a good thing.
I think we are slowly getting on top of this virus, and hopefully these posts drop off the board and into history, like the Brexit posts.
Good luck bluebirds lets hope we are all safe and supporting our team again very soon, whichever side we are on with this debate
Yep let people make their own choice not to have vaccine...... but garauntee wont be happy that cant go to Portugal unless had both doses or isolates there for 10days ... as we come out lockdown expect more activities needing proof (passport) of both doses to be able to do things vaccinated people can do.. but life goes on I'm sure eventually that they'll be able join in such activities.
Tue Jun 29, 2021 9:04 pm
Tue Jun 29, 2021 9:09 pm
C. Rombie-Coat wrote:pembroke allan wrote:Bluebina wrote:Wow still going, for the record everyone should do what they want, I don't think people who refuse are selfish or irresponsible, it's your prerogative do what you think is best for you.
My belief is that people are at less risk from taking the vaccine than not, but that's just my view and the majority of the medical profusion ad people will disagree.
One observation is that the virus is now spreading mostly among youngsters and giving them immunity without causing them too much harm, which is potentially a good alternative to the vaccine as long as they don't infect very elderly relatives, especially if they are not double jabbed. One way or the other immunity is growing quickly which is a good thing.
I think we are slowly getting on top of this virus, and hopefully these posts drop off the board and into history, like the Brexit posts.
Good luck bluebirds lets hope we are all safe and supporting our team again very soon, whichever side we are on with this debate
Yep let people make their own choice not to have vaccine...... but garauntee wont be happy that cant go to Portugal unless had both doses or isolates there for 10days ... as we come out lockdown expect more activities needing proof (passport) of both doses to be able to do things vaccinated people can do.. but life goes on I'm sure eventually that they'll be able join in such activities.
I don't particularly enjoy some of this posting as it has uncomfortable issues attached. But where else do you read of these things?
I am surprised that no -one picked up on the 'dirty little secret' of the alternative , non-vaccine and well proven treatment for Covid but this is a real scandal.
To lighten the mood, a pretty (MILF) Irish lady has a word to say.
https://twitter.com/i/status/1382264648372793346