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Thu Sep 09, 2010 8:08 am
i'LL SUPPLY THE MATCHES & SOME FUEL
Thu Sep 09, 2010 8:09 am
What about when Muslims burn the American flag
Thu Sep 09, 2010 8:13 am
& BLOW UP THE TOWERS
Thu Sep 09, 2010 8:18 am
Mr Moo Cow wrote:& BLOW UP THE TOWERS

Yes because every Muslim I know is a terrorist.
Thu Sep 09, 2010 8:29 am
YOU'D BE SUPRISED
Thu Sep 09, 2010 8:35 am
Back in the 80s I use to get laughed at when I said Islam was more dangerous than communism to our society. With communism if you did not believe it they just kicked you out. With Islam if you turn against it, that is go from a believer to none believer then there is a fatha against you to be killed. So its a bit like the mafia, once your in it for life and there is no excape.
Regardless of what I do with my life I would like the option to change my mind without any recourse.
Thu Sep 09, 2010 8:39 am
Xcasual wrote:What about when Muslims burn the American flag

Have you not realised that Islam can get away with what they want yet when someone says anything against them, jihad is waged against them
Thu Sep 09, 2010 8:58 am
Bakedalasker wrote:Back in the 80s I use to get laughed at when I said Islam was more dangerous than communism to our society. With communism if you did not believe it they just kicked you out. With Islam if you turn against it, that is go from a believer to none believer then there is a fatha against you to be killed. So its a bit like the mafia, once your in it for life and there is no excape.
Regardless of what I do with my life I would like the option to change my mind without any recourse.
lol.
Thu Sep 09, 2010 9:12 am
yeah why dont we get all muslims together, load em upon trains and carry em into specially built camps....where they should work but instead they get murdered and we cleanse the world...
burning books, then houses...thats how it started...
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/KristallnachtFFS are there still people out there who think they can fight hatred with hatred? burning the koran is just what radical muslims been waiting for to give em another excuse and legitimate their holy war...
Thu Sep 09, 2010 9:14 am
Theres only one religion worth believing in and thats Cardiff City F.C
Thu Sep 09, 2010 9:42 am
Hofmeister wrote:yeah why dont we get all muslims together, load em upon trains and carry em into specially built camps....where they should work but instead they get murdered and we cleanse the world...
burning books, then houses...thats how it started...
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/KristallnachtFFS are there still people out there who think they can fight hatred with hatred? burning the koran is just what radical muslims been waiting for to give em another excuse and legitimate their holy war...
Something we agree on Hof

As they say, 2 wrongs don't make a right.
On Moo Cows quote back to me when he said I would be surprised how many muslims are terrorists

(seriously, what an idiotic thing to say) does that mean the same can be applied to catholics and football fans? Just because there is hooliganism and it makes the papers does that mean every or most football fans are hooligans? And just because there are catholic priests who are peadophiles, does that mean every or most catholic priests/congregation are peadophiles?
Obviously not. Its a ridiculous argument. But people same to change the rules whenever they want. And anyways, seeing as most of you are anti British anyway, I would have thought you would have liked the Islamist extremesist
Thu Sep 09, 2010 9:44 am
shoot the lot
Thu Sep 09, 2010 9:49 am
TREV wrote:shoot the lot
I have always wondered what would happen when the white man loses its power. With statements like these, it leads me to believe that the persecution of any one who isn't white and christian will come back to haunt us. In fact most people on here are just as bad as extremists who preach hate. You guys are doing the exact same thing. Hypocrisy is the word I think.
Thu Sep 09, 2010 10:26 am
Midfield general wrote:That guy is bonkers

good on him, torch the thing
Thu Sep 09, 2010 10:37 am
Hofmeister wrote:yeah why dont we get all muslims together, load em upon trains and carry em into specially built camps....where they should work but instead they get murdered and we cleanse the world...
burning books, then houses...thats how it started...
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/KristallnachtFFS are there still people out there who think they can fight hatred with hatred? burning the koran is just what radical muslims been waiting for to give em another excuse and legitimate their holy war...
How wrong you are.
A book is just that. A book.
The same nutty preacher said that the hurricane that smashed Haiti killing thousands
was an act of God against their heathen ways. Nobody batted an eyelid. No Fatwah was
issued against his name. Media coverage was at a minimum.
Yet mention ONE word against the 'protected religion' and they will burn effigies of you
all over the World. Christian leaders will jump on the bandwagon and attack you, and
numerous mad mullahs will issue death threats.
For FUCKS sake... He thinks Islam is evil, and he wants to burn the Koran. So what??
Abu Hamza and Anjem choudary are forever calling us 'devils' and telling us to 'repent'
our sins, turn to MoreHam please Ed or burn in hell... Yet I've never once seen Christians
turning cars over, setting fire to mosque's, burning flags, blowing up Tube Trains because
of it.
By defending Islam, you defend the indefensible. It is an evil flawed doctrine followed by millions
of illiterate stone-age believers. They are a twisted unstable cult. The very first words in the
Koran are 'Peace Be Upon You'.... they couldnt even get the first line right!!!
Thu Sep 09, 2010 10:47 am
taffyapple wrote:Hofmeister wrote:yeah why dont we get all muslims together, load em upon trains and carry em into specially built camps....where they should work but instead they get murdered and we cleanse the world...
burning books, then houses...thats how it started...
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/KristallnachtFFS are there still people out there who think they can fight hatred with hatred? burning the koran is just what radical muslims been waiting for to give em another excuse and legitimate their holy war...
How wrong you are.
A book is just that. A book.
The same nutty preacher said that the hurricane that smashed Haiti killing thousands
was an act of God against their heathen ways. Nobody batted an eyelid. No Fatwah was
issued against his name. Media coverage was at a minimum.
Yet mention ONE word against the 'protected religion' and they will burn effigies of you
all over the World. Christian leaders will jump on the bandwagon and attack you, and
numerous mad mullahs will issue death threats.
For FUCKS sake... He thinks Islam is evil, and he wants to burn the Koran. So what??
Abu Hamza and Anjem choudary are forever calling us 'devils' and telling us to 'repent'
our sins, turn to MoreHam please Ed or burn in hell... Yet I've never once seen Christians
turning cars over, setting fire to mosque's, burning flags, blowing up Tube Trains because
of it.
By defending Islam, you defend the indefensible. It is an evil flawed doctrine followed by millions
of illiterate stone-age believers. They are a twisted unstable cult. The very first words in the
Koran are 'Peace Be Upon You'.... they couldnt even get the first line right!!!
Spot on
Thu Sep 09, 2010 11:36 am
well said
Too many PC people sticking up for them these days, they will be sorry one day
, but when that day comes it will be too late
Thu Sep 09, 2010 12:17 pm
The most damning thought about this whole thing is this:
What would have happened had Abu Hamza gone on Al Jazeera threatening to
burn 100 bibles?
Who'd have cared?
We come from societys that were many years ago based on the Christian faith
and the Bible. We have evolved. The Bible had some good points in it...
Thou shalt Not Kill is a good one...throwing babies into fires etc and killing the
first born etc is not so good!!
So we moved on from using the Bible as a rule book
Islam has not.
So should we bow down to people who are allowed to f**k camels, who are promised
virgin males as well as females in heaven. To people who think one man is worth more
than two women. To people who would execute homosexuals (im not their biggest fan
myself, but give em a break eh?). Should we pander to a way of life that would quite
happily see us burn in hell for not following their religion, and who condone the
exectution of anyone who decides to leave Islam??
Trouble with the Muslim apologists is that nowadays, being politically correct is oh so
trendy. But they cannot see past the end of their own 'live and let live' noses.
The first line in the Koran is "peace be upon you"
The very next line should read "providing you agree with US!"
Thu Sep 09, 2010 12:22 pm
I hope Obama or someone can step in and stop him doing this, I cant see any outcome other than an already de-stabilised world plunging further into a religious war with the extreme muslims and thousands burning usa and british flags and causing more probable bombers, in my opinion as annis says i dont think he should burn the book.
Thu Sep 09, 2010 12:24 pm
taffyapple wrote:To people who would execute homosexuals (im not their biggest fan
myself, but give em a break eh?).
If we lived under Sharia law as they would have us if they got their own way, Eastenders would be robbed of one of its biggest storylines this year and also 2 of its biggest characters. Also the teenage lesbian storyline in Coronation Street would have to be ditched and the factory would lose one of its best workers and the Rovers Return's rota would have to be re-written as a result
Thu Sep 09, 2010 12:29 pm
Cefnfforestbluebird wrote:I hope Obama or someone can step in and stop him doing this, I cant see any outcome other than an already de-stabilised world plunging further into a religious war with the extreme muslims and thousands burning usa and british flags and causing more probable bombers, in my opinion as annis says i dont think he should burn the book.
As an avid reader of many books, I believe all books should be cherished.
But thats a personal opinion of mine
The loony doesnt.
Let him get on with it. What law is he breaking?
But answer this mate. If Abu Hamza was threatening to burn 100 bibles... would
anybody even bat an eyelid?
Thu Sep 09, 2010 12:30 pm
PhatFrog wrote:Something we agree on Hof

As they say, 2 wrongs don't make a right.
I agree that 2 wrongs don't make a right but if we are going to refer to WWII then we should also acknowledge that appeasement doesn't work either.
Muslim's gave very little thought to sensitivities when planning to build a Mosque close to the 9/11 site and were granted permission on the grounds of religious freedom.
Yet when a mad preacher Terry Jones wants to burn the Koran in an act of freedom of speech, everyone and their uncle emerges to condemn him including President Obama who must now be considered the worst US President in living history.
This is appeasement in the very same way as Britain and France did with Hitler from 1933-1939 where the German dictator thumb his nose at both countries because they were too scared to act against him. That policy didn’t exactly work and the Jewish minority in Europe suffered more than anyone else.
I understand burning the Koran is an extreme measure, but I feel it is a kick up the arse they need so they finally understand what being 'insensitive' really means and begin to realise that insensitive is not a one way street.
Thu Sep 09, 2010 12:38 pm
This is Britain (and indeed the world) today
Were I to turn round to an employer and refuse to work the Sabbath, even though
it was acknowledged that weekend work was part of the job. I would be sacked.
Were I Muslim, and refused to serve alcohol at the checkout, even though checkout
work was for the most part, my job.... Anyone know the answer???
WE are expected to live by the law of the land. Which we do.
Muslims do too. But if any of those laws conflict with their religious beliefs....
Thu Sep 09, 2010 12:40 pm
taffyapple wrote:Trouble with the Muslim apologists is that nowadays, being politically correct is oh so
trendy. But they cannot see past the end of their own 'live and let live' noses.
Very good point Taffy.
The Muslim appologists are the biggest arse lickers going and only express their liberal views because it makes them look good.
If they could see beyond their 'live and let live noses' they would see the terrible state and danger this country is getting itself into because of its pathetic appeasement of Islam.
Thu Sep 09, 2010 12:43 pm
basiclly they want to take over and impose thier crap on us, all these mosques etc are funnding from bin laden etc and other countries as they preach to build them where you can and on the 9/11 site is bad, but they see it as a victory if they do! they win!! and no-one will say anything as not to "upset anyone" and because we speak up or talk against it we are RACIST
if they dont like it fook off, its all the PC people who are causing the crap
Thu Sep 09, 2010 12:50 pm
taffyapple wrote:This is Britain (and indeed the world) today
Were I to turn round to an employer and refuse to work the Sabbath, even though
it was acknowledged that weekend work was part of the job. I would be sacked.
Were I Muslim, and refused to serve alcohol at the checkout, even though checkout
work was for the most part, my job.... Anyone know the answer???
WE are expected to live by the law of the land. Which we do.
Muslims do too. But if any of those laws conflict with their religious beliefs....
Actually if a Christian or Jewish employee made it known they would-not work a Sabbath for religious faith reasons, they would be protected by discrimination laws.
The same would probably apply to the Muslim checkout employee but in my opinion the circumstances are different as technically there isn't any religious reason stopping a practising Muslim from selling booze to a non-Muslim (After all I have bought bacon from the Muslim owned corner shop loads of times) but in these PC times they probably would win a claim brought on religious discrimination grounds.
Thu Sep 09, 2010 1:50 pm
so whats the answer? violence creates violence, hatred creates hatred...
that circle needs to be broken...
so that @rsehole burns the koran --> muslim extremists kill westerners
look at Israel/Palestine... the only chance this region has is that they finally stop on both sides of the fence, but instead they all retaliate each others actions... going nowhere...
then look at Northern Ireland (I'm not saying everything's perfect there...) but the IRA called a ceasefire and finally sat down to have talks with the British Government. Loyalists joined as well and the peace-process went ahead, still a long way to go but you cant compare Belfast or Derry to what it was like in the 70s, 80s or early 90s...
circle of violence and hatred needs to be broken... and burning the Koran makes the situation even worse as it will upset and encourage moderate muslims to become extremists...
Thu Sep 09, 2010 1:54 pm
Burning him seems a bit of an over-reaction. He chose to join Hull - get over it.
Thu Sep 09, 2010 2:40 pm
it will only be a recruitment drive for terrorists if he doe's
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