“ Just look / Why the hell would the CCFC Committee?”

CARDIFF CITY HAD THE 5th BIGGEST INCOME OUTSIDE THE PREM LEAGUE THIS SEASON


We are now only 3 points of 21st,need to start winning soon and pray Kieffer Moore doesnt get injured .

Why the hell would the CCFC Committee (Tan / Dalman & Choo) get rid of the back up striker Glatzel??
It’s not like we sold Glatzel and got money, we saved money on part of his wages.



Maybe they thought they could rely on Isaac Vassell?

And Rotherham have games in hand and we play them next week.


It’s a hell of a gamble with League 1 staring at us.


Hopefully Big Mick will get us winning ASAP

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“ Remaining Fixtures “



Sat Feb 06 Bristol City v Cardiff City

Tue Feb 9. Rotherham v Cardiff City

Sat Feb 13 COVENTRY CITY H



Tue Feb 16 Luton Town A 8.15pm live on Sky


Sat Feb 20 PRESTON NORTH END H

Wed Feb 24 AFC Bournemouth A

Sat Feb 27 Middlesbrough A

Tue Mar 02 DERBY COUNTY H

Sat Mar 06 Huddersfield Town A

Sat Mar 13 WATFORD H

Tue Mar 16 STOKE CITY H

Sat Mar 20 Swansea City A


Fri Apr 02 NOTTINGHAM FOREST H

Mon Apr 05 Sheffield Wednesday A

Sat Apr 10 BLACKBURN ROVERS H
Sat Apr 17 Reading A
Sat Apr 20 Brentford A
Sat Apr 24 WYCOMBE WANDERERS H

Sat May 01 Birmingham City A

Sat May 08 ROTHERHAM UNITED H

Totally agree Annis whilst I agree it was time for Glatzel to move on his departure leaves us woefully short up front

The only thing I can think of is maybe Murphy or Wilson would fill in as strikers if Keiffer got injured or maybe MM is confident Harris or Watters can do the job?

Either way we are taking a huge gamble

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Mick McCarthy has been told to look to the youth and agreed before he got the job, it could see the likes of Isaak Davies and Chanka Zimba get their shot. Both have been included in match-day squads in recent weeks and will be buoyed by the manager's desire to promote from within.

That deadline day certainly raised more questions than it answered, that's for sure. Whether there is enough fire power to catapult City up the table in the coming months, though, remains to be seen.

There are reports Cardiff still have something in the pipeline and could yet swoop for a free agent striker to prop up the forwards stable in the coming days.

That would certainly be welcome news for many fans.

ROBERT GLATZEL:

"I like the style of play, intense runs and aggressive pressing, that Mainz embodies suits my strengths.

"I will try to stay up in the league with everything I have to offer and to fight every minute for the team and our common goal in training and on the pitch. "





Sporting director Martin Schmidt said: "Robert is a classic centre forward who, with his strong trait towards goal and as a target player, optimally complements our squad and will therefore become immensely valuable for our team.

"With a lot of experience from the second division in England and Germany, he is now dying to get into the Bundesliga.

"We got to know Robert as a totally positive, open-minded guy who will also be wonderfully involved in the team off the pitch."

The striker will certainly be keen to hit the ground running there and prove what he can really do.

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An owner who lost interest in his “toy” years ago and Directors with no real love for the club all getting away with being “absent landlords” Even more so as with no supporters at games they don’t have to see how angry and upset the people who do love their club are!

Very very clear to me. Not interested anymore, asset stripping as I said months ago. Wants out, and I really don't think it matters to him whether we go down or not.

Times are hard, of course, but I don't see any other team in our division at the moment who have simply got rid without replacing.

Annis, I simply can't understand those who say the board understand football with everything going on at the moment. If we do get relegated, and the board keep up its current theme, then it is not beyond comprehension that we would also struggle in league 1.

Mick McCarthy has been told to look to the youth and agreed before he got the job, it could see the likes of Isaak Davies and Chanka Zimba get their shot. Both have been included in match-day squads in recent weeks and will be buoyed by the manager's desire to promote from within.

That deadline day certainly raised more questions than it answered, that's for sure. Whether there is enough fire power to catapult City up the table in the coming months, though, remains to be seen.

Very very clear to me. Not interested anymore, asset stripping as I said months ago. Wants out, and I really don't think it matters to him whether we go down or not.

Times are hard, of course, but I don't see any other team in our division at the moment who have simply got rid without replacing.

Annis, I simply can't understand those who say the board understand football with everything going on at the moment. If we do get relegated, and the board keep up its current theme, then it is not beyond comprehension that we would also struggle in league 1.

I've been saying this for a few seasons now.

When Malky screwed up the Acorn signing Tan went into his "business" model. I don't blame him for doing that, want to get that out there before people start thinking I have an agenda. Football is a difference business to any other business and unless you are in love with the club then it is best you don't bother. Tan is not in love with this club and he has made that very clear.

When we first got relegated I thought that would be the reset that would happen with an owner like Tan. We were going to drop down but how far I was not sure. For me the Warnock era just papered over the cracks. Now we have reached where I suspected us to go and the only question I have is how far will we drop.

Well it looks like we are finally turning to the youth. We should have done this when we were in the Premier but we didn't. This transition could take time and we could quite easily drop down into league one. Time will tell but we are on a tightrope and Tan's business model has put us there.

Very very clear to me. Not interested anymore, asset stripping as I said months ago. Wants out, and I really don't think it matters to him whether we go down or not.

Times are hard, of course, but I don't see any other team in our division at the moment who have simply got rid without replacing.

Annis, I simply can't understand those who say the board understand football with everything going on at the moment. If we do get relegated, and the board keep up its current theme, then it is not beyond comprehension that we would also struggle in league 1.

If we go down the value of the club is halved at a stroke. I'm pretty certain that would matter to him.

Mick McCarthy has been told to look to the youth and agreed before he got the job, it could see the likes of Isaak Davies and Chanka Zimba get their shot. Both have been included in match-day squads in recent weeks and will be buoyed by the manager's desire to promote from within.

That deadline day certainly raised more questions than it answered, that's for sure. Whether there is enough fire power to catapult City up the table in the coming months, though, remains to be seen.

Very very clear to me. Not interested anymore, asset stripping as I said months ago. Wants out, and I really don't think it matters to him whether we go down or not.

Times are hard, of course, but I don't see any other team in our division at the moment who have simply got rid without replacing.

Annis, I simply can't understand those who say the board understand football with everything going on at the moment. If we do get relegated, and the board keep up its current theme, then it is not beyond comprehension that we would also struggle in league 1.

I've been saying this for a few seasons now.

When Malky screwed up the Acorn signing Tan went into his "business" model. I don't blame him for doing that, want to get that out there before people start thinking I have an agenda. Football is a difference business to any other business and unless you are in love with the club then it is best you don't bother. Tan is not in love with this club and he has made that very clear.

When we first got relegated I thought that would be the reset that would happen with an owner like Tan. We were going to drop down but how far I was not sure. For me the Warnock era just papered over the cracks. Now we have reached where I suspected us to go and the only question I have is how far will we drop.

Well it looks like we are finally turning to the youth. We should have done this when we were in the Premier but we didn't. This transition could take time and we could quite easily drop down into league one. Time will tell but we are on a tightrope and Tan's business model has put us there.

I've said similar this week. The transition should have started after relegation when we had 2 years of prem money coming in. We should have been buying more proven youngsters then and bleeding them in with the experienced players. Instead we spunked the best part of £20mill on Flint, pack, glatzel and vassel. How much will we get back on them? Be lucky to get a 1/4 of that.

Although we are not in a very good situation, I do think this reset was needed. Trouble is, now we have to do it on very little budget and relying on a youth system that has been piss poor for a long time. The Question is, can we establish ourselves in the championship during the transition.

Very very clear to me. Not interested anymore, asset stripping as I said months ago. Wants out, and I really don't think it matters to him whether we go down or not.

Times are hard, of course, but I don't see any other team in our division at the moment who have simply got rid without replacing.

Annis, I simply can't understand those who say the board understand football with everything going on at the moment. If we do get relegated, and the board keep up its current theme, then it is not beyond comprehension that we would also struggle in league 1.

If we go down the value of the club is halved at a stroke. I'm pretty certain that would matter to him.

The value would, but the Committee honestly never ever thought we were in danger until now and they would actually have to take the total blame if we did go down.

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6 points from the relegation zone and 9 points from top 6.

We have to lose at least two games and all those below us win theirs to end up in the bottom 3

If we go on a run of 3 or 4 wins on the bounce, then were well away.

We're improving each game, keep the faith and stay positive.

And this talk of "asset stripping!!!" understand the meaning of it before throwing it out there!

We are cutting costs accordingly.

Look around you!, there is no supporter income, revenue is down so we need to be careful FFP has caught us enough in the past for our executives to learn their lesson. without promotion there are going to be some severely financially affected teams in this division (and below) Derby and Swansea are two.

6 points from the relegation zone and 9 points from top 6.

We have to lose at least two games and all those below us win theirs to end up in the bottom 3

If we go on a run of 3 or 4 wins on the bounce, then were well away.

We're improving each game, keep the faith and stay positive.

And this talk of "asset stripping!!!" understand the meaning of it before throwing it out there!

We are cutting costs accordingly.

Look around you!, there is no supporter income, revenue is down so we need to be careful FFP has caught us enough in the past for our executives to learn their lesson. without promotion there are going to be some severely financially affected teams in this division (and below) Derby and Swansea are two.

2pts from our last 21pts is nothing to be positive about.

We need wins ASAP, then we can be positive

4pts from Bristol City & Rotherham games, will make us all feel positive
Anything more is a bonus.


Actually there is supporters income direct from the matches online direct in full to our club

Also we this season received £36mill unlike the majority of clubs.

6 points from the relegation zone and 9 points from top 6.

We have to lose at least two games and all those below us win theirs to end up in the bottom 3

If we go on a run of 3 or 4 wins on the bounce, then were well away.

We're improving each game, keep the faith and stay positive.

And this talk of "asset stripping!!!" understand the meaning of it before throwing it out there!

We are cutting costs accordingly.

Look around you!, there is no supporter income, revenue is down so we need to be careful FFP has caught us enough in the past for our executives to learn their lesson. without promotion there are going to be some severely financially affected teams in this division (and below) Derby and Swansea are two.

2pts from our last 21pts is nothing to be positive about.

We need wins ASAP, then we can be positive

4pts from Bristol City & Rotherham games, will make us all feel positive
Anything more is a bonus.



Actually there is supporters income direct from the matches online direct in full to our club

Also we this season received £36mill unlike the majority of clubs.

If you're looking at it that way then it's actually 2 points from a possible 24 not 21.

OR

0 points from 18 possible

**New manager**

2 points from 6 possible.
100% unbeaten record under Big Mick

Now that is positivity!!!!!!!!!!!

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Let’s look above us then not below

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The transfer committee have never been involved in a relegation battle, VT will certainly not enjoy it as his investment will at least half.

Its been coming since we decided not to replace Harris before xmas.

We needed fighters like Patterson in a scenario like this and to think we have no back up striker, to think that we did not learn from the RB situation.

Just hope we can stay up, its on a knife edge and i dont think we have the players to deal with this scrap and definately no confidence in MD & KC. They will do what VT wants.

The trouble is what happens next season? Perhaps its time for a change of ownership.

Why do we care how many points from 21st we are? 22nd is the relegation zone, which we're 6pts from. Easier to knock the club I suppose if we use 21st

In life you get things right and you get things wrong.

Tan in life has done enough right to buy himself a football club. A club that has spent just as much time in the bottom two rungs as the top two over the last 30 years.

How tough it is being a CCFC fan, no not us, a Coventry City fan or a Sunderland fan. Poor ole little spoilt Cardiff fans feeling sorry for themselves. This sense of entitlement

This forum is a microcosm of the breadth of feeling for the direction of the club at the moment.

Play our kids/ but sulk when we allow an expensive striker that patently hasn't worked to leave
Get ourselves a young exciting manager but when we do it the "cheap option" or yes man
Play a modern quick passing team then lament Paterson's departure every time a ball deflects of his arse

I am a fraud of a life long fan. I only came back in the new stadium and took a 15-year sabbatical to pursue other things.

IMO its been worse. Whatever the club/committee or manager does it gets criticized

Why do we care how many points from 21st we are? 22nd is the relegation zone, which we're 6pts from. Easier to knock the club I suppose if we use 21st

because the clubs just above 22nd provide a cushion should the club in 22nd hit a bit of form.....which...is happening..

Why do we care how many points from 21st we are? 22nd is the relegation zone, which we're 6pts from. Easier to knock the club I suppose if we use 21st

Why should we care

You Might not care, but I do.

Pts is what it’s all about.

If we didn’t care then you should be annoyed.

Why do we care how many points from 21st we are? 22nd is the relegation zone, which we're 6pts from. Easier to knock the club I suppose if we use 21st

Why should we care

You Might not care, but I do.

Pts is what it’s all about.

If we didn’t care then you should be annoyed.

I'm saying why do we care about 21st not why do we care. 22nd is a position of significance in the league, 21st is not. No one ever pipes up with "good news we're 4 points from 7th".

"Pts is what it's all about" we're 6 points (plus a much better GD) from a spot in the relegation zone. That is the position to avoid and to care about.

Why do we care how many points from 21st we are? 22nd is the relegation zone, which we're 6pts from. Easier to knock the club I suppose if we use 21st

Why should we care

You Might not care, but I do.

Pts is what it’s all about.

If we didn’t care then you should be annoyed.

I'm saying why do we care about 21st not why do we care. 22nd is a position of significance in the league, 21st is not. No one ever pipes up with "good news we're 4 points from 7th".

"Pts is what it's all about" we're 6 points (plus a much better GD) from a spot in the relegation zone. That is the position to avoid and to care about.

We haven’t won for 8 games and yes we’ve only got 2pts from 21pts, football is very dire and we’ve not her. Bringing in quality players, just getting rid.

Tell me honestly the positives?


And yes I care abd I want points

Why do we care how many points from 21st we are? 22nd is the relegation zone, which we're 6pts from. Easier to knock the club I suppose if we use 21st

Why should we care

You Might not care, but I do.

Pts is what it’s all about.

If we didn’t care then you should be annoyed.

I'm saying why do we care about 21st not why do we care. 22nd is a position of significance in the league, 21st is not. No one ever pipes up with "good news we're 4 points from 7th".

"Pts is what it's all about" we're 6 points (plus a much better GD) from a spot in the relegation zone. That is the position to avoid and to care about.

the team in 21st are 3 points above the team in 22nd... but the team in 21st are actually in relegation form...while the team in 22nd are not only in promotion form but also have a game in hand..... just take none of that into account ...

6 wins should see us safe judging on past seasons with the odd exception, but the way we play it's just seeing where we can win 6 games, hopefully we can put on a mini run like we did earlier on in the season

Why do we care how many points from 21st we are? 22nd is the relegation zone, which we're 6pts from. Easier to knock the club I suppose if we use 21st

Why should we care

You Might not care, but I do.

Pts is what it’s all about.

If we didn’t care then you should be annoyed.

I'm saying why do we care about 21st not why do we care. 22nd is a position of significance in the league, 21st is not. No one ever pipes up with "good news we're 4 points from 7th".

"Pts is what it's all about" we're 6 points (plus a much better GD) from a spot in the relegation zone. That is the position to avoid and to care about.

We haven’t won for 8 games and yes we’ve only got 2pts from 21pts, football is very dire and we’ve not her. Bringing in quality players, just getting rid.

Tell me honestly the positives?


And yes I care abd I want points

You're comparing our form/points across 2 managers. It's easy to say 2 points from 21, alternatively it's 0 from 15 under NH and now 2 from 6 under MM. So already a big improvement on the points front. We also look better and the players look to have more fight in them, coming back from 2-0 and 1-0.
MM achieved this in a week give or take. Barnsley and Millwall came in quick succession with very little prep time before the Barnsley game, however MM has now had a full week to fully assess his squad, the strengths, weaknesses, discuss tactics etc

As for signing quality players;
Wilson in previous seasons was one of the best players in the Championship.
Moore is looking like our best goalscorer in a decade. The last time we had a 20+ goal player was 2011, since then our highest goalscorer was Whitts with 13 in the 11/12 season
Jonny Williams is imo a better playmaker than Ralls, Vaulks and Pack so I would class him as a good signing.
Ng has also looked good in the few appearances he's made and is fairly young.

We're also playing youth players which people have been crying out for years.


This is a far cry from a season to be celebrated or enjoyed but we're 6 points above the relegation zone with a much better GD than anyone below us. There's also 5 teams between us and the relegation zone, 3 of those 5 we have a game in hand over as well as having a game in hand over 9 of the 14 teams above us.
We've also signed a very competent and experienced manager who in the space of a couple days improved us, lets see what he can do in a few weeks.

The doom and gloom was warranted under Harris but lets hold it back until it's deserved with the new manager