Tan takeover

Why didn’t tan except a takeover bid he certainly don’t seam bothered anymore with the lack of investment plus they getting all the high earners off the books the way we going we be free falling down the leagues


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Why didn’t tan except a takeover bid he certainly don’t seam bothered anymore with the lack of investment plus they getting all the high earners off the books the way we going we be free falling down the leagues

Couple of huge legal bills looming overhead, no revenue given pandemic... come on

Am grateful to Tan, but am an advocate of a new owner that can invest and inject enthusiasm.

There are posters who can share why Tan rejected, what was apparantly described by MD as, 'A generous offer'. He is owner and can do what he wants of course, but for me, if the offer was generous it should have been thank you and goodbye.

Or just bite the bullet put pride aside and employ an experienced football mind to sit on the board or at least help advise them.

From reading the extracts of meeting with the fans the other week it's clear the current board don't really know what to do.

It’s disappointing I know, but if you recall this was part of the trade off In Return to blue. Remember people on here were saying rather be in league 2 and in blue, which is fair enough. We however still a championship side and blue so by some people’s expectations we doing ok. It was a silly mistake by tan to change to red, and a lot of fans understandably can’t let it go. Maybe when it all truly forgiven things may change again. But there’s way to much bitterness sweeping though the clubs on all levels. However massive investment isn’t required when you look at the success of some other championship clubs.

We had our chance of being bankrolled and us the fans didn’t support it in tans eyes and we now find ourselves in this situation. However still he’s saved our club and by fair the most reliable owner we had after the past owners who tried to destroy our club.

For me you can't judge tan yet. I always say this. You can never judge a manager/owner whilst at the club. As something that they do on day 36 might be forgotten by day 360. You can only judge them when they leave. Tan might end up leaving us, shit in debt almost ruined. So until he leaves you can't judge.

For me you can't judge tan yet. I always say this. You can never judge a manager/owner whilst at the club. As something that they do on day 36 might be forgotten by day 360. You can only judge them when they leave. Tan might end up leaving us, shit in debt almost ruined. So until he leaves you can't judge.

That is a very good point.

debt free was it not? we may be in league 1 with a youth team but who knows what his thinking is.

Old saying actions speak louder than words, this transfer window sums us up. A mess

It’s disappointing I know, but if you recall this was part of the trade off In Return to blue. Remember people on here were saying rather be in league 2 and in blue, which is fair enough. We however still a championship side and blue so by some people’s expectations we doing ok. It was a silly mistake by tan to change to red, and a lot of fans understandably can’t let it go. Maybe when it all truly forgiven things may change again. But there’s way to much bitterness sweeping though the clubs on all levels. However massive investment isn’t required when you look at the success of some other championship clubs.

We had our chance of being bankrolled and us the fans didn’t support it in tans eyes and we now find ourselves in this situation. However still he’s saved our club and by fair the most reliable owner we had after the past owners who tried to destroy our club.

I am in agreement with you. The red episode was a huge mistake but Tan has invested, continues to invest and has saved our club from the lower leagues. He's given us 2 premiership seasons and still people slate him?

It wouldn’t have made any sense to spend money in this transfer window when there is every possibility a new manager would be appointed in the summer. Use what we have with the addition of inexpensive options such as Ng, Waters and Williams to keep us up.

Tan had accepted the offer, but never turned it down for the love of Cardiff City, it was in my opinion for his own personal view.

The other offer was also accepted, but they changed their mind after seeing the final books.

It’s disappointing I know, but if you recall this was part of the trade off In Return to blue. Remember people on here were saying rather be in league 2 and in blue, which is fair enough. We however still a championship side and blue so by some people’s expectations we doing ok. It was a silly mistake by tan to change to red, and a lot of fans understandably can’t let it go. Maybe when it all truly forgiven things may change again. But there’s way to much bitterness sweeping though the clubs on all levels. However massive investment isn’t required when you look at the success of some other championship clubs.

We had our chance of being bankrolled and us the fans didn’t support it in tans eyes and we now find ourselves in this situation. However still he’s saved our club and by fair the most reliable owner we had after the past owners who tried to destroy our club.

I am in agreement with you. The red episode was a huge mistake but Tan has invested, continues to invest and has saved our club from the lower leagues. He's given us 2 premiership seasons and still people slate him?

So account for the fact we are in a worse off position than when he took over.

It wouldn’t have made any sense to spend money in this transfer window when there is every possibility a new manager would be appointed in the summer. Use what we have with the addition of inexpensive options such as Ng, Waters and Williams to keep us up.

Keeping us up being the operative words here.

The list of Cardiff City Managers in last 11 years

Vincent Tan took over Cardiff City May 2010

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It wouldn’t have made any sense to spend money in this transfer window when there is every possibility a new manager would be appointed in the summer. Use what we have with the addition of inexpensive options such as Ng, Waters and Williams to keep us up.

Keeping us up being the operative words here.

Absolutely, he kept faith with Harris for too long. Unfortunately the run of victories cost us dearly and even Annis stated at one point that Harris had earned the right to stay until the end of the season. Unfortunately things then went disastrously wrong and it cost us any chance of promotion no matter who we bought during this window so ensuring we stayed up was paramount.

It’s disappointing I know, but if you recall this was part of the trade off In Return to blue. Remember people on here were saying rather be in league 2 and in blue, which is fair enough. We however still a championship side and blue so by some people’s expectations we doing ok. It was a silly mistake by tan to change to red, and a lot of fans understandably can’t let it go. Maybe when it all truly forgiven things may change again. But there’s way to much bitterness sweeping though the clubs on all levels. However massive investment isn’t required when you look at the success of some other championship clubs.

We had our chance of being bankrolled and us the fans didn’t support it in tans eyes and we now find ourselves in this situation. However still he’s saved our club and by fair the most reliable owner we had after the past owners who tried to destroy our club.

I am in agreement with you. The red episode was a huge mistake but Tan has invested, continues to invest and has saved our club from the lower leagues. He's given us 2 premiership seasons and still people slate him?

So account for the fact we are in a worse off position than when he took over.

Well if you Think that 2 seasons in the Premier is worse than when he took over then i can't account for it.
If you think that the Langstone debt was a better situation than now, then in cant account for it.
If you think that writing off 10s of millions in debts and equity conversion is worse than where we were then i can't account for it.
If you think that languishing in league 2 would be better than where we are then i cant account for that either.

We would have been up the creek without a paddle but instead Tan gave us our premiership dream. We are back in Blue and are a championship side. I think we should be grateful to Mr Tan. If he chose to pull the plug it would be bye bye CCFC. Just my opinion of course

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The 3 committee members and who ever the manager is at the time have made so many cock up in the transfer market its unberlivable really if someone was blowing my money like choo and dalman has done for 5 yrs they would have been sacked by now

This forum is all about opinions - that is what is should be about. And there are two very different views of the same situation...

On the one hand the club are racking up the debt, parachute payments running out, we are going to run into financial difficulty. On the other we are criticising the club for not spending more and managing cost.

All against the backdrop of financial fair play and a global pandemic that will impact every club.

Apart from the red, personally I think Tan has been good for the club and in 100 years time history will show 1 cup final, 3 play offs, 2 promotions and 1 as Champions. There will be more to come by which to judge and of course there are many other factors to judge by which haven’t been addressed (youth, infrastructure etc) - but no one addresses these before either.

However, I do think the appointment of managers has been really poor - apart from Mick (too early to judge), Malkay and Warnock (forced to act) they have all been managers with limited credentials and ultimately I think that has kept setting us back as they weren’t able to deliver. For all we talk about needing a DoF, a bloody good football manager who can oversee everything would go a long way.


I don’t include Mick M in that by the way.

It’s disappointing I know, but if you recall this was part of the trade off In Return to blue. Remember people on here were saying rather be in league 2 and in blue, which is fair enough. We however still a championship side and blue so by some people’s expectations we doing ok. It was a silly mistake by tan to change to red, and a lot of fans understandably can’t let it go. Maybe when it all truly forgiven things may change again. But there’s way to much bitterness sweeping though the clubs on all levels. However massive investment isn’t required when you look at the success of some other championship clubs.

We had our chance of being bankrolled and us the fans didn’t support it in tans eyes and we now find ourselves in this situation. However still he’s saved our club and by fair the most reliable owner we had after the past owners who tried to destroy our club.

I am in agreement with you. The red episode was a huge mistake but Tan has invested, continues to invest and has saved our club from the lower leagues. He's given us 2 premiership seasons and still people slate him?

So account for the fact we are in a worse off position than when he took over.

Well if you Think that 2 seasons in the Premier is worse than when he took over then i can't account for it.
If you think that the Langstone debt was a better situation than now, then in cant account for it.
If you think that writing off 10s of millions in debts and equity conversion is worse than where we were then i can't account for it.
If you think that languishing in league 2 would be better than where we are then i cant account for that either.

We would have been up the creek without a paddle but instead Tan gave us our premiership dream. We are back in Blue and are a championship side. I think we should be grateful to Mr Tan. If he chose to pull the plug it would be bye bye CCFC. Just my opinion of course

Yeah just your opinion. Well here is mine:-

Tan took us over when we were primed for the Premier. We paid the price for his investment by having to suffer the hideous Rebrand which took the joy out of us getting promoted. Well it did for the real Cardiff fans who are now still here.

As far as the writing off the 10s of millions well who put us in that debt and how come he had to do that after 2 visits to the Premier and all its parachute payments.

As far as Langston goes I don't recall them threatening us with administration/bankruptcy. How can they when the debt is unsecured? Its was Ridsdale who threaten us with administration if we lost the court case against Langston. All Langston wanted to do was regain the club ownership.

The bottom line is Tan has taken us backwards. It looks like now we will be having relegation fights instead of pushing for promotion. We are in more debt than before and the only real good thing is that its Tan's debt and because of that I can see us selling our good academy products if we are lucky to produce any. Ridsdales era 2 here we come.

I reckon the offer was fronted by mehmet Dalman, didn't he try a purchase Charlton ? didn't he also say it was a good offer?, maybe on is part it was but not with Tan

I can't believe people are moaning that Tan didn't accept some offer and sell the club, without knowing a thing about who made the offer or their intentions or their capability to improve the club.

It could be out of the frying pan and into the fire. Perhaps the prospective buyer is a developer, looking to build on the land after selling everything that's not bolted down.

How about waiting to get the full information before making a critical opinion.

It wouldn’t have made any sense to spend money in this transfer window when there is every possibility a new manager would be appointed in the summer. Use what we have with the addition of inexpensive options such as Ng, Waters and Williams to keep us up.

This is my thinking.

Baskerdasker.absolutely spot on.

It’s disappointing I know, but if you recall this was part of the trade off In Return to blue. Remember people on here were saying rather be in league 2 and in blue, which is fair enough. We however still a championship side and blue so by some people’s expectations we doing ok. It was a silly mistake by tan to change to red, and a lot of fans understandably can’t let it go. Maybe when it all truly forgiven things may change again. But there’s way to much bitterness sweeping though the clubs on all levels. However massive investment isn’t required when you look at the success of some other championship clubs.

We had our chance of being bankrolled and us the fans didn’t support it in tans eyes and we now find ourselves in this situation. However still he’s saved our club and by fair the most reliable owner we had after the past owners who tried to destroy our club.

I am in agreement with you. The red episode was a huge mistake but Tan has invested, continues to invest and has saved our club from the lower leagues. He's given us 2 premiership seasons and still people slate him?

So account for the fact we are in a worse off position than when he took over.

Well if you Think that 2 seasons in the Premier is worse than when he took over then i can't account for it.
If you think that the Langstone debt was a better situation than now, then in cant account for it.
If you think that writing off 10s of millions in debts and equity conversion is worse than where we were then i can't account for it.
If you think that languishing in league 2 would be better than where we are then i cant account for that either.

We would have been up the creek without a paddle but instead Tan gave us our premiership dream. We are back in Blue and are a championship side. I think we should be grateful to Mr Tan. If he chose to pull the plug it would be bye bye CCFC. Just my opinion of course

Yeah just your opinion. Well here is mine:-

Tan took us over when we were primed for the Premier. We paid the price for his investment by having to suffer the hideous Rebrand which took the joy out of us getting promoted. Well it did for the real Cardiff fans who are now still here.

As far as the writing off the 10s of millions well who put us in that debt and how come he had to do that after 2 visits to the Premier and all its parachute payments.

As far as Langston goes I don't recall them threatening us with administration/bankruptcy. How can they when the debt is unsecured? Its was Ridsdale who threaten us with administration if we lost the court case against Langston. All Langston wanted to do was regain the club ownership.

The bottom line is Tan has taken us backwards. It looks like now we will be having relegation fights instead of pushing for promotion. We are in more debt than before and the only real good thing is that its Tan's debt and because of that I can see us selling our good academy products if we are lucky to produce any. Ridsdales era 2 here we come.

Baskerdasker spot on

It’s disappointing I know, but if you recall this was part of the trade off In Return to blue. Remember people on here were saying rather be in league 2 and in blue, which is fair enough. We however still a championship side and blue so by some people’s expectations we doing ok. It was a silly mistake by tan to change to red, and a lot of fans understandably can’t let it go. Maybe when it all truly forgiven things may change again. But there’s way to much bitterness sweeping though the clubs on all levels. However massive investment isn’t required when you look at the success of some other championship clubs.

We had our chance of being bankrolled and us the fans didn’t support it in tans eyes and we now find ourselves in this situation. However still he’s saved our club and by fair the most reliable owner we had after the past owners who tried to destroy our club.

hmmm...so. we are not being bankrolled because of the return to Blue...he doesnt want to sell... but its fans that wont let it go ? as for championship sides becoming a success without large investment in the playing side.. who ? you can punch above your weight and get up but without then properly investing your nailed on to come back down...

It’s disappointing I know, but if you recall this was part of the trade off In Return to blue. Remember people on here were saying rather be in league 2 and in blue, which is fair enough. We however still a championship side and blue so by some people’s expectations we doing ok. It was a silly mistake by tan to change to red, and a lot of fans understandably can’t let it go. Maybe when it all truly forgiven things may change again. But there’s way to much bitterness sweeping though the clubs on all levels. However massive investment isn’t required when you look at the success of some other championship clubs.

We had our chance of being bankrolled and us the fans didn’t support it in tans eyes and we now find ourselves in this situation. However still he’s saved our club and by fair the most reliable owner we had after the past owners who tried to destroy our club.

hmmm...so. we are not being bankrolled because of the return to Blue...he doesnt want to sell... but its fans that wont let it go ? as for championship sides becoming a success without large investment in the playing side.. who ? you can punch above your weight and get up but without then properly investing your nailed on to come back down...

Did a lot of people say rather in blue in league 2 than in red?? So we getting what we wanted. I asked for support in buying the club but no ones interested. So when local fans don’t want to invest how can you expect others? We need to look at ourselves first.

Personally I don’t really care who owns it. I think Sam hamman is an undesirable but if he bought us back then I’d have to live with it. To me they faceless people as long as we don’t go bust I’m happy just to be a Cardiff fan.

My best days with city were in the lower leagues rather than the corporate premier league with thousand turning up mainly to watch the other teams.

It’s disappointing I know, but if you recall this was part of the trade off In Return to blue. Remember people on here were saying rather be in league 2 and in blue, which is fair enough. We however still a championship side and blue so by some people’s expectations we doing ok. It was a silly mistake by tan to change to red, and a lot of fans understandably can’t let it go. Maybe when it all truly forgiven things may change again. But there’s way to much bitterness sweeping though the clubs on all levels. However massive investment isn’t required when you look at the success of some other championship clubs.

We had our chance of being bankrolled and us the fans didn’t support it in tans eyes and we now find ourselves in this situation. However still he’s saved our club and by fair the most reliable owner we had after the past owners who tried to destroy our club.

I am in agreement with you. The red episode was a huge mistake but Tan has invested, continues to invest and has saved our club from the lower leagues. He's given us 2 premiership seasons and still people slate him?

So account for the fact we are in a worse off position than when he took over.

Well if you Think that 2 seasons in the Premier is worse than when he took over then i can't account for it.
If you think that the Langstone debt was a better situation than now, then in cant account for it.
If you think that writing off 10s of millions in debts and equity conversion is worse than where we were then i can't account for it.
If you think that languishing in league 2 would be better than where we are then i cant account for that either.

We would have been up the creek without a paddle but instead Tan gave us our premiership dream. We are back in Blue and are a championship side. I think we should be grateful to Mr Tan. If he chose to pull the plug it would be bye bye CCFC. Just my opinion of course

Yeah just your opinion. Well here is mine:-

Tan took us over when we were primed for the Premier. We paid the price for his investment by having to suffer the hideous Rebrand which took the joy out of us getting promoted. Well it did for the real Cardiff fans who are now still here.

As far as the writing off the 10s of millions well who put us in that debt and how come he had to do that after 2 visits to the Premier and all its parachute payments.

As far as Langston goes I don't recall them threatening us with administration/bankruptcy. How can they when the debt is unsecured? Its was Ridsdale who threaten us with administration if we lost the court case against Langston. All Langston wanted to do was regain the club ownership.

The bottom line is Tan has taken us backwards. It looks like now we will be having relegation fights instead of pushing for promotion. We are in more debt than before and the only real good thing is that its Tan's debt and because of that I can see us selling our good academy products if we are lucky to produce any. Ridsdales era 2 here we come.

Spot on Ian and the truth

As to the Accademy that had been horrendous under Tan.

Debt actually increased

Despicable Rebrand

Promotions, but two terrible relegations and in a worse position than when Tan arrived.

Fans divided beyond.


CEO Lives in London / CHAIRMAN lives in London and wants to buy another club.

Owner watched us about 4 times in the last 4 yrs.

And if Tan decided to liquidate tomorrow we would be in freefall. As they say, "be careful what you wish for".

It’s disappointing I know, but if you recall this was part of the trade off In Return to blue. Remember people on here were saying rather be in league 2 and in blue, which is fair enough. We however still a championship side and blue so by some people’s expectations we doing ok. It was a silly mistake by tan to change to red, and a lot of fans understandably can’t let it go. Maybe when it all truly forgiven things may change again. But there’s way to much bitterness sweeping though the clubs on all levels. However massive investment isn’t required when you look at the success of some other championship clubs.

We had our chance of being bankrolled and us the fans didn’t support it in tans eyes and we now find ourselves in this situation. However still he’s saved our club and by fair the most reliable owner we had after the past owners who tried to destroy our club.

hmmm...so. we are not being bankrolled because of the return to Blue...he doesnt want to sell... but its fans that wont let it go ? as for championship sides becoming a success without large investment in the playing side.. who ? you can punch above your weight and get up but without then properly investing your nailed on to come back down...

Did a lot of people say rather in blue in league 2 than in red?? So we getting what we wanted. I asked for support in buying the club but no ones interested. So when local fans don’t want to invest how can you expect others? We need to look at ourselves first.

i think it was more a case of a few saying it numerous times than a lot... our crowds went up and protests were generally poorly attended initially... i do think there was a bit of a trade off going on in peoples minds ,fans and VT.. many fans who hated the red were prepared to swallow it for the investment { which turned out to be huge loans and a never ending gobstopper like debt } ..the serious investment stopped with Slade and resistance to the rebrand grew.. ... so its arguable who broke this trade off...
your spot on in what you say about local money... or at least thats the fear of many fans who remember the lower leagues with very little investment for 30 years .. i will never be a tan hater... but there comes a time when ytou have to wonder will this debt ever end, and where are we going... will add not sure why he would turn down a good offer