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Four players in the team are the problem

Sat Jan 16, 2021 5:19 pm

Other than the manager himself of course!

Nelson , Pack , Glatzel and Bacuna

They are just not good enough and each of them in there own way cost us every week with the same performances or mistakes

Nelson is constantly losing his man or not reading the game properly, twice today they scored unmarked when Nelson was the defending player, he is league 1 standard and I've said for months that he is the issue at the back.

Marlon Pack slows us down to the point to we go backwards, he offers nothing unless we are trying to hold onto a lead and see a game out in the last 10 minutes

Robert Glatzel is just awful, not one bit of his game is championship standard and how we wasted £5million on him baffles me. He does absolutely nothing up front and may as well not be on the pitch, I think his last shot on target was his goal against Birmingham 6 games ago.

Bacuna struggles at Right back , in fact he struggles in midfield aswell. He is just a basic utility player who runs around a lot and leaves massive gaps for opposition to run into .

The first thing a new manager or Harris should do this week is get rid of these four and reset the team.

Re: Four players in the team are the problem

Sat Jan 16, 2021 5:25 pm

Absolutely spot on.

Re: Four players in the team are the problem

Sat Jan 16, 2021 5:30 pm

Midfield Ralls and Pack will say it again until we get a creative ball playing leader Messi wouldn’t score in this side.

Re: Four players in the team are the problem

Sat Jan 16, 2021 5:37 pm

Llantwit Blue wrote:Midfield Ralls and Pack will say it again until we get a creative ball playing leader Messi wouldn’t score in this side.


In my opinion Ralls is a solid championship midfielder who gives his all for the club. He seems badly let down by the midfielders around him.

Re: Four players in the team are the problem

Sat Jan 16, 2021 5:43 pm

thomasblue wrote:
Llantwit Blue wrote:Midfield Ralls and Pack will say it again until we get a creative ball playing leader Messi wouldn’t score in this side.


In my opinion Ralls is a solid championship midfielder who gives his all for the club. He seems badly let down by the midfielders around him.

he’s our best midfielder and I think that’s the problem with the midfield , Ralls I think personally is mid table championship midfielder at best. I don’t think he’d get into any of the midfield teams in top 6

Re: Four players in the team are the problem

Sat Jan 16, 2021 6:15 pm

Pack and Glatzel not good enough...see “Broken record”. I have been saying it fir months.. or in Packs case even longer. The other 2 can do a job for us.
Bacuna is playing out of position - a midfield of Bacuns Ralls and Vaulks is far better than the one used with Pack today. :bluebird:

Re: Four players in the team are the problem

Sat Jan 16, 2021 6:28 pm

Lengee wrote:Pack and Glatzel not good enough...see “Broken record”. I have been saying it fir months.. or in Packs case even longer. The other 2 can do a job for us.
Bacuna is playing out of position - a midfield of Bacuns Ralls and Vaulks is far better than the one used with Pack today. :bluebird:


Bacuna can do a job , that says it all . And thats the problem .

We need someone who can make a difference . Bacuna doesn't because he's very average no matter where he plays and we have too many of that type of player

Re: Four players in the team are the problem

Sat Jan 16, 2021 6:38 pm

When Ralls is your most talented midfielder you are in trouble.

His job is to be the unseen engine. He is not a 10 nor a defensive midfielder, that's where the issue is.

Vaulks or Bacuna are the gunnar role

Pack or Ralls are the 8, except one can't do it

Then the manager is scared to play a real AMC unless Tomlin is fit......

Vaulks, Ralls and Wilson is good, but thats too attacking in a 433 for our manager

Re: Four players in the team are the problem

Sat Jan 16, 2021 7:18 pm

Agree with Nelson and Pack.

Glatzel has been unfortunate to be at a club that play the way/system we do.

Nelson has never reached the heights Warnock saw in him, and his strength and distribution hasn't improved since he arrived.

Packs career is just moving too fast in the wrong direction, shouldn't be playing Championship football. A half decent performance every month doesn't cut it anymore

Re: Four players in the team are the problem

Sat Jan 16, 2021 10:20 pm

Ralls, Morrison, Moore and Smithie are the only permanent staff I would keep.

Why are we offering contracts to Holiett and Bennett?

Re: Four players in the team are the problem

Sat Jan 16, 2021 10:27 pm

Bakedalasker wrote:Ralls, Morrison, Moore and Smithie are the only permanent staff I would keep.

Why are we offering contracts to Holiett and Bennett?


That is the spine we need yo build a team around

Re: Four players in the team are the problem

Sun Jan 17, 2021 12:30 am

Bacuna is tidy in mid, trouble is just look at all our centre mids. There all the same slow donkey players, you really only want one in the team. Nothing against them, but you need balance.

Look at most sides they have 1 player who job is kinda like just glue, pressure, tackle, pass to the better players. Players no one is expecting to go on crazy runs, dribble past 4 players and outside of the foot shot top corner.

Re: Four players in the team are the problem

Sun Jan 17, 2021 1:51 am

Add Morrison, he's shit. Doh
Our back four needs changing,.
Morrison, where do I start can't pass, heading to opposition, does his hair, don't give 100%, needs Bamber to show how to captain a side, don't know where to stop, crap.
Nelson, totally 3rd division end of.
No right back, end of.
Joe one foot bennett, how can a professional footballer use one foot, beyond me, end of.
Smithies since Etheridge gone not the same keeper.
Just to add, Neil Harris is absolutely crap, give me Malky anyday, apart from Jimmy Schooler.
Rant over, doh. :bluescarf:
Ow for the days we had players who showed passion and leadership, Gunnarsson, Bamber, Bellamy,

Re: Four players in the team are the problem

Sun Jan 17, 2021 7:21 am

Bucuna needs to be in midfield not at right back

Re: Four players in the team are the problem

Sun Jan 17, 2021 3:53 pm

Ralls, vaulks and pack are all league 1. Teams are running through us for fun and scoring. Our lack of a midfield pulls defenders all over the place, and it doesn’t help our strikers. You can blame glatzel, nelson, bacuna (not a natural right back) but our biggest problem is midfield and has been for 2-3 seasons. We need at least 2 proper midfielders who can control a game.

Re: Four players in the team are the problem

Sun Jan 17, 2021 4:26 pm

Bacuna can’t be judged as a RB.
I’ve said it here before that Pack and/or Vaulks and Ralls are probably the worst central midfield in the league.
Maybe Bacuna replacing one of those may make a difference but I’m not optimistic
No creativity and drive with the ball like Cantwell and that Argentinian Norwich have got.

Re: Four players in the team are the problem

Sun Jan 17, 2021 4:51 pm

Disagree about Bacuna when he is in his preferred midfield role he is more than decent at this level. Nelson was ok last reason but seems to have got worse this season. Think Ralls an Vaulks are ok individually but don't work together as a midfield paticularly when playing with Pack. Think we are massively missing Tomlin and are crying out for a creative midfielder with an eye for a pass.

I rather think when we signed Wilson Ojo and Moore most of thought we would be serious playoff contenders, I certainly did,but I didn't reckon on our midfield being so poor. At least the board are trying to address some of the problems.

Watched the league cup final against Liverpool on sky last week (not the penalty shoot out) and Malkies side could actually pass the ball quite well. It is reflection of how crap we have got at passing the ball that I was actually quite surprised to see us pass the ball about well.

Re: Four players in the team are the problem

Sun Jan 17, 2021 5:41 pm

Been saying this about Ralls for sometime now. Bennet ain’t much better either.

I’ve seen games where Ralls hasn’t completed a pass.

Baccuna I disagree with. Given the right support and position he could easily be in a mid table top flight team. Good work ethic and confident too.

Re: Four players in the team are the problem

Sun Jan 17, 2021 7:20 pm

Add to that Bennett, Ojo and Jnr and you won’t be far away.

Re: Four players in the team are the problem

Sun Jan 17, 2021 7:30 pm

I think Nelson is young and will get better so wouldnt get rid of but dont disagree with the rest

Re: Four players in the team are the problem

Sun Jan 17, 2021 7:40 pm

valleyrambill wrote:I think Nelson is young and will get better so wouldnt get rid of but dont disagree with the rest


Hes 27 so wouldn't exactly say he was young. He has definitely done well to step up a league and has done pretty well for us. But if we are serious about promotion or even changing our style, we will need better.

Re: Four players in the team are the problem

Sun Jan 17, 2021 8:50 pm

Carduff wrote:Add Morrison, he's shit. Doh
Our back four needs changing,.
Morrison, where do I start can't pass, heading to opposition, does his hair, don't give 100%, needs Bamber to show how to captain a side, don't know where to stop, crap.
Nelson, totally 3rd division end of.
No right back, end of.
Joe one foot bennett, how can a professional footballer use one foot, beyond me, end of.
Smithies since Etheridge gone not the same keeper.
Just to add, Neil Harris is absolutely crap, give me Malky anyday, apart from Jimmy Schooler.
Rant over, doh. :bluescarf:
Ow for the days we had players who showed passion and leadership, Gunnarsson, Bamber, Bellamy,


100% agree with you about Morrison, really don't get what other supporters see in his game.

Oh for the days of Bruno & Bamba

Re: Four players in the team are the problem

Sun Jan 17, 2021 9:24 pm

Gravity wrote:
Carduff wrote:Add Morrison, he's shit. Doh
Our back four needs changing,.
Morrison, where do I start can't pass, heading to opposition, does his hair, don't give 100%, needs Bamber to show how to captain a side, don't know where to stop, crap.
Nelson, totally 3rd division end of.
No right back, end of.
Joe one foot bennett, how can a professional footballer use one foot, beyond me, end of.
Smithies since Etheridge gone not the same keeper.
Just to add, Neil Harris is absolutely crap, give me Malky anyday, apart from Jimmy Schooler.
Rant over, doh. :bluescarf:
Ow for the days we had players who showed passion and leadership, Gunnarsson, Bamber, Bellamy,


100% agree with you about Morrison, really don't get what other supporters see in his game.

Oh for the days of Bruno & Bamba



and what days exactly were they then ? dont think we saw that CB partnership much more than half a dozen times in 3 years...

Re: Four players in the team are the problem

Sun Jan 17, 2021 10:36 pm

Gravity wrote:
Carduff wrote:Add Morrison, he's shit. Doh
Our back four needs changing,.
Morrison, where do I start can't pass, heading to opposition, does his hair, don't give 100%, needs Bamber to show how to captain a side, don't know where to stop, crap.
Nelson, totally 3rd division end of.
No right back, end of.
Joe one foot bennett, how can a professional footballer use one foot, beyond me, end of.
Smithies since Etheridge gone not the same keeper.
Just to add, Neil Harris is absolutely crap, give me Malky anyday, apart from Jimmy Schooler.
Rant over, doh. :bluescarf:
Ow for the days we had players who showed passion and leadership, Gunnarsson, Bamber, Bellamy,


100% agree with you about Morrison, really don't get what other supporters see in his game.

Oh for the days of Bruno & Bamba

We have missed Morrison big time - in last 2 league games all 4 goals conceded wouldn’t have probably happened. Morrison & Moore have been missed aerially big time. With them both we are so more likely to score from dead balls and defend dead balls. Proof is there on the pitch.