Thu Jan 07, 2021 10:28 am
Thu Jan 07, 2021 10:57 am
Thu Jan 07, 2021 10:58 am
Thu Jan 07, 2021 11:10 am
Thu Jan 07, 2021 11:16 am
Barclay1 wrote:Not disrespecting the lad, but signings like this should be complimented with experienced championship campaigners so that they can improve with us and become good players.
I have it in my Mind that any signings like this will be thrust into action in a struggling team a few divisions above where they ply their trade currently.
Yes, he fits the youngster bill but we now have to look to survive and need much better than this.
Thu Jan 07, 2021 11:42 am
Escott1927 wrote:Barclay1 wrote:Not disrespecting the lad, but signings like this should be complimented with experienced championship campaigners so that they can improve with us and become good players.
I have it in my Mind that any signings like this will be thrust into action in a struggling team a few divisions above where they ply their trade currently.
Yes, he fits the youngster bill but we now have to look to survive and need much better than this.
We arnt in a position to be buying premier league or tested championship RB's. Just because he is from league 1 doesn't mean he isn't capable at this level. Nelson, etheridge and NML all came from league 1 and they did pretty well for us.
He was player of the year and players player last season so shows he's got something about him. Personally, I'd take a player on a lower wage who will probably work hard to prove himself at this level, over an ex prem journeyman on high wages.
If we do sign him, it might work out or it might not. But I think these are the signings we can expect from now on. You're just setting yourself up for dissapointment if you expect us to be spending millions on players from higher leagues.
Thu Jan 07, 2021 11:59 am
Thu Jan 07, 2021 11:59 am
Thu Jan 07, 2021 12:03 pm
Thu Jan 07, 2021 12:08 pm
ealing_ayatollah wrote:Kind of signings we should go for in this window. We aren't going up and don't think we'll crumble enough to get into a relegation battle (I hope) so get young players from lower leagues and see if we can unearth a few gems.
Thu Jan 07, 2021 12:21 pm
Thu Jan 07, 2021 12:41 pm
Barclay1 wrote:Escott1927 wrote:Barclay1 wrote:Not disrespecting the lad, but signings like this should be complimented with experienced championship campaigners so that they can improve with us and become good players.
I have it in my Mind that any signings like this will be thrust into action in a struggling team a few divisions above where they ply their trade currently.
Yes, he fits the youngster bill but we now have to look to survive and need much better than this.
We arnt in a position to be buying premier league or tested championship RB's. Just because he is from league 1 doesn't mean he isn't capable at this level. Nelson, etheridge and NML all came from league 1 and they did pretty well for us.
He was player of the year and players player last season so shows he's got something about him. Personally, I'd take a player on a lower wage who will probably work hard to prove himself at this level, over an ex prem journeyman on high wages.
If we do sign him, it might work out or it might not. But I think these are the signings we can expect from now on. You're just setting yourself up for dissapointment if you expect us to be spending millions on players from higher leagues.
Its a given we won't be spending millions, but it's big pressure on his shoulders coming into a struggling team, and being expected to make a difference.
We do agree on a lot more than you think, and your points are valid, but given our plight, I believe there are players with championship experience or out of contract players who can be both more valuable to us for this season, and also can help this lad to improve to a championship level to regularly bring him into the starting 18 or 11 for next year, whilst still providing cover and a body for this year which we currently dont have.
Thu Jan 07, 2021 1:12 pm
Thu Jan 07, 2021 2:33 pm
Thu Jan 07, 2021 2:36 pm
Thu Jan 07, 2021 2:48 pm
Escott1927 wrote:Barclay1 wrote:Not disrespecting the lad, but signings like this should be complimented with experienced championship campaigners so that they can improve with us and become good players.
I have it in my Mind that any signings like this will be thrust into action in a struggling team a few divisions above where they ply their trade currently.
Yes, he fits the youngster bill but we now have to look to survive and need much better than this.
We arnt in a position to be buying premier league or tested championship RB's. Just because he is from league 1 doesn't mean he isn't capable at this level. Nelson, etheridge and NML all came from league 1 and they did pretty well for us.
He was player of the year and players player last season so shows he's got something about him. Personally, I'd take a player on a lower wage who will probably work hard to prove himself at this level, over an ex prem journeyman on high wages.
If we do sign him, it might work out or it might not. But I think these are the signings we can expect from now on. You're just setting yourself up for dissapointment if you expect us to be spending millions on players from higher leagues.
Thu Jan 07, 2021 3:34 pm
Thu Jan 07, 2021 3:50 pm
Thu Jan 07, 2021 4:24 pm
Escott1927 wrote:Barclay1 wrote:Escott1927 wrote:Barclay1 wrote:Not disrespecting the lad, but signings like this should be complimented with experienced championship campaigners so that they can improve with us and become good players.
I have it in my Mind that any signings like this will be thrust into action in a struggling team a few divisions above where they ply their trade currently.
Yes, he fits the youngster bill but we now have to look to survive and need much better than this.
We arnt in a position to be buying premier league or tested championship RB's. Just because he is from league 1 doesn't mean he isn't capable at this level. Nelson, etheridge and NML all came from league 1 and they did pretty well for us.
He was player of the year and players player last season so shows he's got something about him. Personally, I'd take a player on a lower wage who will probably work hard to prove himself at this level, over an ex prem journeyman on high wages.
If we do sign him, it might work out or it might not. But I think these are the signings we can expect from now on. You're just setting yourself up for dissapointment if you expect us to be spending millions on players from higher leagues.
Its a given we won't be spending millions, but it's big pressure on his shoulders coming into a struggling team, and being expected to make a difference.
We do agree on a lot more than you think, and your points are valid, but given our plight, I believe there are players with championship experience or out of contract players who can be both more valuable to us for this season, and also can help this lad to improve to a championship level to regularly bring him into the starting 18 or 11 for next year, whilst still providing cover and a body for this year which we currently dont have.
The only RB we have at the club is on loan and is currently out injured. Harris was ridiculed for coming into the season with 1 RB and now we are potentially interested in a RB its an issue because he is from the league below us. Championship experience comes at a cost and we havnt got the cash.
Tutu is back in a few weeks so I'd imagine this guy would be used as cover this season. If he's good enough he'll be first choice next season and if not, we'll have the summer to find a suitable first choice player. Its a gamble but its not an expensive gamble if it doesn't work out. We might actually sign a player with a bit of sell on value as well. Maybe that's a bit too optimistic though.
Thu Jan 07, 2021 4:51 pm
skidemin wrote:Escott1927 wrote:Barclay1 wrote:Escott1927 wrote:Barclay1 wrote:Not disrespecting the lad, but signings like this should be complimented with experienced championship campaigners so that they can improve with us and become good players.
I have it in my Mind that any signings like this will be thrust into action in a struggling team a few divisions above where they ply their trade currently.
Yes, he fits the youngster bill but we now have to look to survive and need much better than this.
We arnt in a position to be buying premier league or tested championship RB's. Just because he is from league 1 doesn't mean he isn't capable at this level. Nelson, etheridge and NML all came from league 1 and they did pretty well for us.
He was player of the year and players player last season so shows he's got something about him. Personally, I'd take a player on a lower wage who will probably work hard to prove himself at this level, over an ex prem journeyman on high wages.
If we do sign him, it might work out or it might not. But I think these are the signings we can expect from now on. You're just setting yourself up for dissapointment if you expect us to be spending millions on players from higher leagues.
Its a given we won't be spending millions, but it's big pressure on his shoulders coming into a struggling team, and being expected to make a difference.
We do agree on a lot more than you think, and your points are valid, but given our plight, I believe there are players with championship experience or out of contract players who can be both more valuable to us for this season, and also can help this lad to improve to a championship level to regularly bring him into the starting 18 or 11 for next year, whilst still providing cover and a body for this year which we currently dont have.
The only RB we have at the club is on loan and is currently out injured. Harris was ridiculed for coming into the season with 1 RB and now we are potentially interested in a RB its an issue because he is from the league below us. Championship experience comes at a cost and we havnt got the cash.
Tutu is back in a few weeks so I'd imagine this guy would be used as cover this season. If he's good enough he'll be first choice next season and if not, we'll have the summer to find a suitable first choice player. Its a gamble but its not an expensive gamble if it doesn't work out. We might actually sign a player with a bit of sell on value as well. Maybe that's a bit too optimistic though.
must say i cant get my head around Harris going into the season with 1 RB whose previous experience was a dozen or so games in that position for a 2nd division German club...but fully agree with all your points re this fella from Crewe...
Thu Jan 07, 2021 4:57 pm
Thu Jan 07, 2021 5:15 pm
Escott1927 wrote:skidemin wrote:Escott1927 wrote:Barclay1 wrote:Escott1927 wrote:Barclay1 wrote:Not disrespecting the lad, but signings like this should be complimented with experienced championship campaigners so that they can improve with us and become good players.
I have it in my Mind that any signings like this will be thrust into action in a struggling team a few divisions above where they ply their trade currently.
Yes, he fits the youngster bill but we now have to look to survive and need much better than this.
We arnt in a position to be buying premier league or tested championship RB's. Just because he is from league 1 doesn't mean he isn't capable at this level. Nelson, etheridge and NML all came from league 1 and they did pretty well for us.
He was player of the year and players player last season so shows he's got something about him. Personally, I'd take a player on a lower wage who will probably work hard to prove himself at this level, over an ex prem journeyman on high wages.
If we do sign him, it might work out or it might not. But I think these are the signings we can expect from now on. You're just setting yourself up for dissapointment if you expect us to be spending millions on players from higher leagues.
Its a given we won't be spending millions, but it's big pressure on his shoulders coming into a struggling team, and being expected to make a difference.
We do agree on a lot more than you think, and your points are valid, but given our plight, I believe there are players with championship experience or out of contract players who can be both more valuable to us for this season, and also can help this lad to improve to a championship level to regularly bring him into the starting 18 or 11 for next year, whilst still providing cover and a body for this year which we currently dont have.
The only RB we have at the club is on loan and is currently out injured. Harris was ridiculed for coming into the season with 1 RB and now we are potentially interested in a RB its an issue because he is from the league below us. Championship experience comes at a cost and we havnt got the cash.
Tutu is back in a few weeks so I'd imagine this guy would be used as cover this season. If he's good enough he'll be first choice next season and if not, we'll have the summer to find a suitable first choice player. Its a gamble but its not an expensive gamble if it doesn't work out. We might actually sign a player with a bit of sell on value as well. Maybe that's a bit too optimistic though.
must say i cant get my head around Harris going into the season with 1 RB whose previous experience was a dozen or so games in that position for a 2nd division German club...but fully agree with all your points re this fella from Crewe...
Shocking. But I doubt Harris intentionally went into the season with one RB. I'll give him the benefit of the doubt there. Probably more to do players not wanting to come here/lack of money to bring a suitable player in. We were linked with Anderson until he went to Sunderland on deadline day. May have waited on that deal too long.
Thu Jan 07, 2021 6:20 pm
Crayfish wrote:Sounds like a really good signing if it comes off. He was Crewes player of the season last season and was in the PFA side for the season. Not only was he rated the best right back in league two last season bu many thought him the most promising player in league two last season. Just the sort of player we should be going for and we desperately need a right back. Apparently he completed more passes in league two in Crewes promotion season than any other player in the league. Quite a feat for a full back.
Thu Jan 07, 2021 7:34 pm
skidemin wrote:Escott1927 wrote:skidemin wrote:Escott1927 wrote:Barclay1 wrote:Escott1927 wrote:Barclay1 wrote:Not disrespecting the lad, but signings like this should be complimented with experienced championship campaigners so that they can improve with us and become good players.
I have it in my Mind that any signings like this will be thrust into action in a struggling team a few divisions above where they ply their trade currently.
Yes, he fits the youngster bill but we now have to look to survive and need much better than this.
We arnt in a position to be buying premier league or tested championship RB's. Just because he is from league 1 doesn't mean he isn't capable at this level. Nelson, etheridge and NML all came from league 1 and they did pretty well for us.
He was player of the year and players player last season so shows he's got something about him. Personally, I'd take a player on a lower wage who will probably work hard to prove himself at this level, over an ex prem journeyman on high wages.
If we do sign him, it might work out or it might not. But I think these are the signings we can expect from now on. You're just setting yourself up for dissapointment if you expect us to be spending millions on players from higher leagues.
Its a given we won't be spending millions, but it's big pressure on his shoulders coming into a struggling team, and being expected to make a difference.
We do agree on a lot more than you think, and your points are valid, but given our plight, I believe there are players with championship experience or out of contract players who can be both more valuable to us for this season, and also can help this lad to improve to a championship level to regularly bring him into the starting 18 or 11 for next year, whilst still providing cover and a body for this year which we currently dont have.
The only RB we have at the club is on loan and is currently out injured. Harris was ridiculed for coming into the season with 1 RB and now we are potentially interested in a RB its an issue because he is from the league below us. Championship experience comes at a cost and we havnt got the cash.
Tutu is back in a few weeks so I'd imagine this guy would be used as cover this season. If he's good enough he'll be first choice next season and if not, we'll have the summer to find a suitable first choice player. Its a gamble but its not an expensive gamble if it doesn't work out. We might actually sign a player with a bit of sell on value as well. Maybe that's a bit too optimistic though.
must say i cant get my head around Harris going into the season with 1 RB whose previous experience was a dozen or so games in that position for a 2nd division German club...but fully agree with all your points re this fella from Crewe...
Shocking. But I doubt Harris intentionally went into the season with one RB. I'll give him the benefit of the doubt there. Probably more to do players not wanting to come here/lack of money to bring a suitable player in. We were linked with Anderson until he went to Sunderland on deadline day. May have waited on that deal too long.
i thought Gunter was ideal cover... and probably not to expensive looking at where he has ended up ? isnt there a salary cap in lge 1... i know i read there was an appeal but not sure how it turned out....
Thu Jan 07, 2021 7:44 pm
bluesince62 wrote:Crayfish wrote:Sounds like a really good signing if it comes off. He was Crewes player of the season last season and was in the PFA side for the season. Not only was he rated the best right back in league two last season bu many thought him the most promising player in league two last season. Just the sort of player we should be going for and we desperately need a right back. Apparently he completed more passes in league two in Crewes promotion season than any other player in the league. Quite a feat for a full back.
Have to agree 100% the lad must have something about him,to recieve the awards,and ive been bemoaning our pass success rate for months!! Good signing if it happens.
Fri Jan 08, 2021 12:21 am