And people wonder why covid19 infections are rising

People are idiots and could not give a toss about killing people

A 500-year-old church was damaged during an illegal New Year's Eve party at the venue.
All Saints' Church in East Horndon, near Brentwood, was broken into before crowds entered, Essex Police said.

Officers were threatened and had objects thrown at them as they dispersed hundreds of people and seized equipment, the force said.
Two men from Harlow, aged 27 and 22, and a 35-year-old from Southwark were arrested.

They were held on suspicion of public order and drugs offences.
'Devastating'
Astrid Gillespie, a volunteer with the Friends of All Saints', said event organisers had smashed a window to put in an extractor fan unit and wired sound equipment into the church's fuse box.

She said: "It was a professional set-up, they'd hired Portaloos, they had a bar area where you had to exchange tokens... obviously it's a mess.

"It's such a beautiful church, to find out it's been damaged is devastating."

The conservation group believes it will cost at least £1,000 to repair the Tudor building.

Essex is in England's top tier four of coronavirus restrictions and on Wednesday declared a major incident over virus cases.
Illegal NYD party equipment, Esseximage copyrightEssex
image captionEquipment was seized and fines issued over three illegal parties broken up by officers

Police later dispersed about 100 people at an illegal party at an abandoned warehouse in Brentwood and made two arrests.
A woman was also fined £10,000 for organising a house party with 100 guests at Bury Road, Sewardstonebury, in Epping Forest.

Officers seized equipment and issued 25 fixed penalty notices.


Why are half the highest Covid-19 rates in Essex?

Assistant Chief Constable Andy Prophet said: "Unfortunately, there were [those] who decided to blatantly flout the coronavirus rules and regulations and, ultimately, they decided that partying was more important than protecting other people.

"We've seized their equipment, arrested five people, and issued a large number of fines to those who think this behaviour is acceptable."

And in Wales

There were 240 reports of Covid-19 rule breaches made to South Wales Police on New Year's Eve.

The force says it handed out 43 fixed penalty notices to some of those involved - in total, there were 430 issued in December.

Officers have also been turning away people who had travelled to Wales from Southampton, Kent and Solihull on New Year's Day.

Last week police had to turn back people travelling to Wales from London.

Beacons visitors travel 180 miles despite Covid rules
Crowds head for Brecon Beacons as snow falls

Referring to the rule breaches, Supt Claire Evans of South Wales Police said: "The rules are very clear that you must not mix with other households.

"Our health partners have been clear that indoor transmission remains one of the greatest risks, so while we will continue to work with our communities to help them understand the rules, we will enforce in those areas where we are seeing blatant or persistent breaches.

"House parties, attending gatherings and travelling to exercise are not allowed and if you do any of these things then you are running the risk of being fined."

or maybe 10s of millions of weekly visits to super markets dont help.... ?

or maybe 10s of millions of weekly visits to super markets dont help.... ?

Maybe not but from what i have seen 99.9% of shoppers are wearing masks and are keeping well away from others

or maybe 10s of millions of weekly visits to super markets dont help.... ?

They probably dont but people have to eat, they dont have to celebrate NYE.
What people also dont need to do is shop in family groups unless they have no option.

a 2,500 (est.) rave has been going on near Rennes, France for several days and clashes with police trying to remove them have occurred with Officers being injured

Amongst the 'ravers' are a large number of Spanish and UK citizens, the latter of who travelled across the channel specifically for the event

On Bondai Beach, New Year's Eve, revellers that included 'many' UK citizens (inc. holiday makers, backpackers, etc.) broke requests not to attend what was supposed to be a closed beach

In Bazil, UK citizens were amongst those involved in angry exchanges when the Copacabana beach was closed to the general public and limited to 'locals' only

And we wonder why the UK is now regarded as the most selfish nation in Europe

Hence, my post prior to New Year asking fans who use this site to honestly admit what they were planning on doing on New Years Eve. So many idiots out there! You simply can't defend them, or compare them to responsible people doing their food shopping!

or maybe 10s of millions of weekly visits to super markets dont help.... ?

Maybe not but from what i have seen 99.9% of shoppers are wearing masks and are keeping well away from others

thats why supermarkets workers are 4 times as likely to get covid

a 2,500 (est.) rave has been going on near Rennes, France for several days and clashes with police trying to remove them have occurred with Officers being injured

Amongst the 'ravers' are a large number of Spanish and UK citizens, the latter of who travelled across the channel specifically for the event

On Bondai Beach, New Year's Eve, revellers that included 'many' UK citizens (inc. holiday makers, backpackers, etc.) broke requests not to attend what was supposed to be a closed beach

In Bazil, UK citizens were amongst those involved in angry exchanges when the Copacabana beach was closed to the general public and limited to 'locals' only

And we wonder why the UK is now regarded as the most selfish nation in Europe

I wouldn't believe that we've got out idiots as shown above but it's paper talk that brits are rampaging around the Wolrd having parties, sure maybe one or two but it's the country's own citizens mostly.

or maybe 10s of millions of weekly visits to super markets dont help.... ?

Maybe not but from what i have seen 99.9% of shoppers are wearing masks and are keeping well away from others

thats why supermarkets workers are 4 times as likely to get covid

You accept covid's real then

People are idiots and could not give a toss about killing people

A 500-year-old church was damaged during an illegal New Year's Eve party at the venue.
All Saints' Church in East Horndon, near Brentwood, was broken into before crowds entered, Essex Police said.

Officers were threatened and had objects thrown at them as they dispersed hundreds of people and seized equipment, the force said.
Two men from Harlow, aged 27 and 22, and a 35-year-old from Southwark were arrested.

They were held on suspicion of public order and drugs offences.
'Devastating'
Astrid Gillespie, a volunteer with the Friends of All Saints', said event organisers had smashed a window to put in an extractor fan unit and wired sound equipment into the church's fuse box.

She said: "It was a professional set-up, they'd hired Portaloos, they had a bar area where you had to exchange tokens... obviously it's a mess.

"It's such a beautiful church, to find out it's been damaged is devastating."

The conservation group believes it will cost at least £1,000 to repair the Tudor building.

Essex is in England's top tier four of coronavirus restrictions and on Wednesday declared a major incident over virus cases.
Illegal NYD party equipment, Esseximage copyrightEssex
image captionEquipment was seized and fines issued over three illegal parties broken up by officers

Police later dispersed about 100 people at an illegal party at an abandoned warehouse in Brentwood and made two arrests.
A woman was also fined £10,000 for organising a house party with 100 guests at Bury Road, Sewardstonebury, in Epping Forest.

Officers seized equipment and issued 25 fixed penalty notices.


Why are half the highest Covid-19 rates in Essex?

Assistant Chief Constable Andy Prophet said: "Unfortunately, there were [those] who decided to blatantly flout the coronavirus rules and regulations and, ultimately, they decided that partying was more important than protecting other people.

"We've seized their equipment, arrested five people, and issued a large number of fines to those who think this behaviour is acceptable."

And in Wales

There were 240 reports of Covid-19 rule breaches made to South Wales Police on New Year's Eve.

The force says it handed out 43 fixed penalty notices to some of those involved - in total, there were 430 issued in December.

Officers have also been turning away people who had travelled to Wales from Southampton, Kent and Solihull on New Year's Day.

Last week police had to turn back people travelling to Wales from London.

Beacons visitors travel 180 miles despite Covid rules
Crowds head for Brecon Beacons as snow falls

Referring to the rule breaches, Supt Claire Evans of South Wales Police said: "The rules are very clear that you must not mix with other households.

"Our health partners have been clear that indoor transmission remains one of the greatest risks, so while we will continue to work with our communities to help them understand the rules, we will enforce in those areas where we are seeing blatant or persistent breaches.

"House parties, attending gatherings and travelling to exercise are not allowed and if you do any of these things then you are running the risk of being fined."

We do have way too many thicko's that's the main thing I have noticed since covid!

It is going to be a tough Winter with so many of these fecking idiots!

Always known there are plenty of thicko's. The covidiots are now easy to identify.

Hence, my post prior to New Year asking fans who use this site to honestly admit what they were planning on doing on New Years Eve. So many idiots out there! You simply can't defend them, or compare them to responsible people doing their food shopping!

oh...so lets ignore the biggest hot spot..... no you cant compare ..which is my point.... one is an enormous hot spot the other a minor incident....

Should have seen Barry island and the nap ,they had to close the carparks,it was rammed over there ,and no it was not all people from Barry ,loads from the valleys drove down there ,I walked over there thinking there won't be many people there was I wrong ,so selfish,the cases up the valleys are high you know you are going to spread it by going to a different area ,it's not as if you haven't got any open spaces to walk up there

Hence, my post prior to New Year asking fans who use this site to honestly admit what they were planning on doing on New Years Eve. So many idiots out there! You simply can't defend them, or compare them to responsible people doing their food shopping!

oh...so lets ignore the biggest hot spot..... no you cant compare ..which is my point.... one is an enormous hot spot the other a minor incident....

Chances of catching covid in an illegal rave full of thickos extremely high, the chance of catching covid if you're not a thicko in the supermarket extremely low, and you have to buy food and household products, you don't need to break into a church dance like a tool, get pissed and take drugs

Put people in cages for long enough they will behave like animals.

Since May the number of excess deaths at home gas been roughly 100 more than the 5 year average a day with the large majority of these being non covid related.

https://www.bmj.com/content/371/bmj.m4500

In the hospitals any death of a subject who has had Covid within 28 days even if it was asymptomatic is listed as a COVID death. The world health organisation doesnteven recommend laboratory confirmation.

"A COVID-19 death is defined for surveillance purposes as a death resulting from a clinically compatible illness in a probable or confirmed COVID-19 case, unless there is a clear alternative cause of death that cannot be related to COVID-19 disease (e.g. trauma)."

While there can be a valid reason for collecting all data to allow for greater analysis after the event and so to better understand the impact of COVID19 in retrospect, real-time reporting that we are seeing is, by its very nature, purpose and design, over-inflating the numbers of people the virus has taken who would have survived without getting infected.

This does not mean the virus isn't real or a hoax, but currently our (the masses) understanding of its virulence is exaggerated by a media that has learnt that fear and anger drive ratings higher than more benign topics (social media statistics overwhelmingly bear this hypothesis out).

The hospitals are overloaded because of two reasons the way I see it.

Firstly, people are scared out of their wits because of the way the media and government have dealt with this. People with mild symptoms that would pass in a few days are terrified they are about to die and clogging up the NHS.

Secondly, hospitals don't seem to be coordinating. This is just anecdotal but in my area Northwood and Kings Cross Hospitals are overwhelmed while Ealing and Middlesex (two very large hospitals in close proximity) are all but empty.

Given that the vast majority of COVID cases don't require emergency attention, why aren't ambulances being directed to these quieter hospitals?

I can only assume either it is related to hospital fee structures or incompetence. I'm not sure if this is common across the country but I do know the image of ambulances queuing outside King's Cross has been used across the country as further evidence of the pandemic spiralling out of control. Why wasn't the empty car park at Middlesex used as context? Where is the story asking why the huge contrast in hospitals only miles away from each other?

When there are so many obvious holes in the story we are told is it any wonder people are choosing to ignore the government and let off some steam after the worst year in most of our memories?

I didn't go out, like a lot on here too much of an old fart to be honest. But I'm not going to criticise anyone who chose to get on with life and have a good time rather than let an exaggerated fear excarbated by constant media bombardment rule their lives as it has done for the last 10 months.

To be clear, i have no judgement on people scared of the virus wanting to isolate, I can 100% understand that position.

However, equally, I won't condemning those that choose to get on with life and try and reclaim a bit of normality after all the suffering of lockdown.

Hence, my post prior to New Year asking fans who use this site to honestly admit what they were planning on doing on New Years Eve. So many idiots out there! You simply can't defend them, or compare them to responsible people doing their food shopping!

oh...so lets ignore the biggest hot spot..... no you cant compare ..which is my point.... one is an enormous hot spot the other a minor incident....

Chances of catching covid in an illegal rave full of thickos extremely high, the chance of catching covid if you're not a thicko in the supermarket extremely low, and you have to buy food and household products, you don't need to break into a church dance like a tool, get pissed and take drugs

its all very selective in binaland isnt it....supermarkets are where it spreads the most ...fact...
and how you get to call anyone a thicko when you thought a foreign holiday in the middle of a worldwide pandemic was a good idea beats me... thickos

or maybe 10s of millions of weekly visits to super markets dont help.... ?

Maybe not but from what i have seen 99.9% of shoppers are wearing masks and are keeping well away from others

Pray tell me what supermarkets are you shopping at?? I went to tesco on western avenue,and culverhouse cross, and although majority were wearing a mask,social distancing was nowhere to be seen! People leaning over another to reach something,that must of been sooo essential they couldnt wait? Some people taking all their kids,who were running around as if it were a play centre! A lot of people have had this attitude of " im wearing a mask im invincible "and this isnt a new thing,I've witnessed it for months.

a 2,500 (est.) rave has been going on near Rennes, France for several days and clashes with police trying to remove them have occurred with Officers being injured

Amongst the 'ravers' are a large number of Spanish and UK citizens, the latter of who travelled across the channel specifically for the event

On Bondai Beach, New Year's Eve, revellers that included 'many' UK citizens (inc. holiday makers, backpackers, etc.) broke requests not to attend what was supposed to be a closed beach

In Bazil, UK citizens were amongst those involved in angry exchanges when the Copacabana beach was closed to the general public and limited to 'locals' only

And we wonder why the UK is now regarded as the most selfish nation in Europe

I wouldn't believe that we've got out idiots as shown above but it's paper talk that brits are rampaging around the Wolrd having parties, sure maybe one or two but it's the country's own citizens mostly.

I think you miss the point; our so-called 'Brits' are travelling long distances to run amok without care for anyone, including themselves and their own loved ones (assuming they have any)

I walked to my local Chinese in Bridgend on NYE - including me there were three customers in person all of whom were wearing masks. The phone rang constantly for deliveries and there were at one point four drivers present - all sat right next to each other with no masks, all on their phones and the bell boy between kitchen and counter also didn't have a mask on and neither did the person taking the orders but at least she was behind a temporary screen. There was no sanitizer and the counter staff were passing the delivery bags without wiping them down after the drivers brought them in. I was shocked and in two minds whether to leave, but as there was nowhere else open nearby, I waited but I won't be going back anytime soon. They were exceptionally busy but there was no regard at all for any safety measures. Shame because the food was excellent

I walked to my local Chinese in Bridgend on NYE - including me there were three customers in person all of whom were wearing masks. The phone rang constantly for deliveries and there were at one point four drivers present - all sat right next to each other with no masks, all on their phones and the bell boy between kitchen and counter also didn't have a mask on and neither did the person taking the orders but at least she was behind a temporary screen. There was no sanitizer and the counter staff were passing the delivery bags without wiping them down after the drivers brought them in. I was shocked and in two minds whether to leave, but as there was nowhere else open nearby, I waited but I won't be going back anytime soon. They were exceptionally busy but there was no regard at all for any safety measures. Shame because the food was excellent

Should have cancelled your order and informed them they were running an unsafe business.

Simple remedy really,travel abroad should have been banned

Going to supermarket is a risk you got to take you need food to live,going 20miles to go to Barry island or any where else to have a walk and get a coffee and chips is not necessary , especially when people know they should not be traveling, people should not keep making excuses for braking the restrictions,just wear a badge saying I'm selfish,then there won't be any confusion why there doing it

I walked to my local Chinese in Bridgend on NYE - including me there were three customers in person all of whom were wearing masks. The phone rang constantly for deliveries and there were at one point four drivers present - all sat right next to each other with no masks, all on their phones and the bell boy between kitchen and counter also didn't have a mask on and neither did the person taking the orders but at least she was behind a temporary screen. There was no sanitizer and the counter staff were passing the delivery bags without wiping them down after the drivers brought them in. I was shocked and in two minds whether to leave, but as there was nowhere else open nearby, I waited but I won't be going back anytime soon. They were exceptionally busy but there was no regard at all for any safety measures. Shame because the food was excellent

Should have cancelled your order and informed them they were running an unsafe business.

As mentioned, I was very tempted but choice was limited with it being NYE. I won't be going back.

I walked to my local Chinese in Bridgend on NYE - including me there were three customers in person all of whom were wearing masks. The phone rang constantly for deliveries and there were at one point four drivers present - all sat right next to each other with no masks, all on their phones and the bell boy between kitchen and counter also didn't have a mask on and neither did the person taking the orders but at least she was behind a temporary screen. There was no sanitizer and the counter staff were passing the delivery bags without wiping them down after the drivers brought them in. I was shocked and in two minds whether to leave, but as there was nowhere else open nearby, I waited but I won't be going back anytime soon. They were exceptionally busy but there was no regard at all for any safety measures. Shame because the food was excellent

Should have cancelled your order and informed them they were running an unsafe business.

As mentioned, I was very tempted but choice was limited with it being NYE. I won't be going back.

You need to ring the local council.They will get a visit and a 14 day warning of closure.

Hence, my post prior to New Year asking fans who use this site to honestly admit what they were planning on doing on New Years Eve. So many idiots out there! You simply can't defend them, or compare them to responsible people doing their food shopping!

oh...so lets ignore the biggest hot spot..... no you cant compare ..which is my point.... one is an enormous hot spot the other a minor incident....

Chances of catching covid in an illegal rave full of thickos extremely high, the chance of catching covid if you're not a thicko in the supermarket extremely low, and you have to buy food and household products, you don't need to break into a church dance like a tool, get pissed and take drugs

its all very selective in binaland isnt it....supermarkets are where it spreads the most ...fact...
and how you get to call anyone a thicko when you thought a foreign holiday in the middle of a worldwide pandemic was a good idea beats me... thickos

Hmmm struck a nerve have I?

I wasn't calling you thicko, but if the cap fits.

Pathetic response yes some people may catch Covid in a supermarket, but there is a far greater chance of catching it at an illegal rave, or can't you grasp that

Back to the holiday in August when the cases were 15 - 100,000 in the UK and 4 - 100,000 in Kos, a quick risk assessment says that's probably as safe as it could be

Would I go now when Merthyr has 1,100 - 100,000 no, so crack on with your raves and trips to the races with people with covid symptoms as you seem to think that's perfectly acceptable

a 2,500 (est.) rave has been going on near Rennes, France for several days and clashes with police trying to remove them have occurred with Officers being injured

Amongst the 'ravers' are a large number of Spanish and UK citizens, the latter of who travelled across the channel specifically for the event

On Bondai Beach, New Year's Eve, revellers that included 'many' UK citizens (inc. holiday makers, backpackers, etc.) broke requests not to attend what was supposed to be a closed beach

In Bazil, UK citizens were amongst those involved in angry exchanges when the Copacabana beach was closed to the general public and limited to 'locals' only

And we wonder why the UK is now regarded as the most selfish nation in Europe

I wouldn't believe that we've got out idiots as shown above but it's paper talk that brits are rampaging around the Wolrd having parties, sure maybe one or two but it's the country's own citizens mostly.

I think you miss the point; our so-called 'Brits' are travelling long distances to run amok without care for anyone, including themselves and their own loved ones (assuming they have any)

Well they are idiots, but I don't think there are many, I saw the news about the french rave and although they said there were some people from the UK, Spain and other countries it was mostly French. The police were too scared to stop them and waited three days until they came out to fine them

or maybe 10s of millions of weekly visits to super markets dont help.... ?

Maybe not but from what i have seen 99.9% of shoppers are wearing masks and are keeping well away from others

Pray tell me what supermarkets are you shopping at?? I went to tesco on western avenue,and culverhouse cross, and although majority were wearing a mask,social distancing was nowhere to be seen! People leaning over another to reach something,that must of been sooo essential they couldnt wait? Some people taking all their kids,who were running around as if it were a play centre! A lot of people have had this attitude of " im wearing a mask im invincible "and this isnt a new thing,I've witnessed it for months.

Tesco in Poole, does that tell you that us Welsh are worse than the English in following the rules? and pray tell me why are you going to two tesco's instead of limiting to one surely one of them is big enough to supply what you need, or were were you out window shopping?

Covid in Wales: Beauty spots 'busy' despite lockdown rules -

Beauty spots have been "disappointingly busy over the last few days" despite restrictions meaning all but essential travel should be avoided.

Snowdonia park warden Arwel Morris reiterated the message that people should not be driving to visit places.

On Saturday, police stopped people from Milton Keynes attempting to walk up Snowdon in breach of Covid rules.

Mr Morris blamed a "perfect storm" of good weather and people being off work for the number of visitors in the area.

"We try and enforce the fact that exercise should begin and end at home, meaning people should not try and drive to a location where they plan to exercise," he told BBC Radio Wales Breakfast.

"And this has been really difficult over the last few days.

Why doesnt the media report on the millions that are being safe and struggling during these times. Even if this was the bubonic plague there would be people out and about, thats just how it is unfortunately, I prefer to concentrate on myself and my family rather then worry how many people are in Tesco or call everyone that doesnt agree with me an idiot.

Its like a bunch of gossiping old women on here

Why doesnt the media report on the millions that are being safe and struggling during these times. Even if this was the bubonic plague there would be people out and about, thats just how it is unfortunately, I prefer to concentrate on myself and my family rather then worry how many people are in Tesco or call everyone that doesnt agree with me an idiot.

Its like a bunch of gossiping old women on here

This is a Forum for discussing points (mainly football) and YOU joined in...

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