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This clubs needs a lot more than a new manager

Tue Dec 29, 2020 10:53 pm

Yes we do need a new manager and hopefully Harris goes however we need a complete revamp of the squad, there are so many average players in this squad as well as ageing.

We also need footballing men on board Dalman and choo aren’t.

The transfer committee have got a lot wrong over the years as well as hired multiple rubbish managers.

Let’s hope we see changes soon.

Re: This clubs needs a lot more than a new manager

Tue Dec 29, 2020 11:05 pm

Definitely agree that we need a new manager and more football people around.

We have been crying out for a proper Sporting Director for years.

Re: This clubs needs a lot more than a new manager

Tue Dec 29, 2020 11:07 pm

BluebirdsTilIDie wrote:Yes we do need a new manager and hopefully Harris goes however we need a complete revamp of the squad, there are so many average players in this squad as well as ageing.

We also need footballing men on board Dalman and choo aren’t.

The transfer committee have got a lot wrong over the years as well as hired multiple rubbish managers.

Let’s hope we see changes soon.


Really ? Another one of these blame the board , yes man , no football men posts

How in any way is that performance tonight the boards fault ?

We could have Alex ferguson sitting in the board room and that performance round have still happened under Harris

Re: This clubs needs a lot more than a new manager

Tue Dec 29, 2020 11:08 pm

thomasblue wrote:
BluebirdsTilIDie wrote:Yes we do need a new manager and hopefully Harris goes however we need a complete revamp of the squad, there are so many average players in this squad as well as ageing.

We also need footballing men on board Dalman and choo aren’t.

The transfer committee have got a lot wrong over the years as well as hired multiple rubbish managers.

Let’s hope we see changes soon.


Really ? Another one of these blame the board , yes man , no football men posts

How in any way is that performance tonight the boards fault ?

We could have Alex ferguson sitting in the board room and that performance round have still happened under Harris


I agree with what you say.

But to be fair to the OP, be opened by saying that we do need a new manager and hopefully Harris goes.

Re: This clubs needs a lot more than a new manager

Tue Dec 29, 2020 11:17 pm

a strong no nonsense manager Pearson ,billic or push the boat out Eddie Howe,dalman tan need to decide which direction the club needs to go asap

Re: This clubs needs a lot more than a new manager

Tue Dec 29, 2020 11:27 pm

The buck always rests at the top thomas, in every organisation. Sure, people make mistakes, but this appointment was made in error as you say. Fergie probably wouldn’t have considered NH, or at least advised against it. Vincent has been excellent on the finances etc, and we should be grateful. But there’s been some howlers on the footy side, to his great cost.

Re: This clubs needs a lot more than a new manager

Tue Dec 29, 2020 11:49 pm

Good post and I totally agree with the OP.

Someone recently posted asking if Tan has been a good owner and if his "project" is working? We have just lost to Wycombe. When back in League 2, Wycombe manager Gareth Ainsworth had to pay for new goal nets out of his own pocket so he could take training. That's right, Wycombe FC couldn't even afford to purchase new goal nets not so long ago. Many other clubs are competing at this level without a billionaire owner, there have been lots of poor decisions from the top of our club.

We have a transfer committee who have little knowledge of the game. Over the past several years, we have wasted millions on average players. We've paid ridiculous wages for some players and our youth academy is a shambles.

There is little point having a billionaire owner without a footballing brain. Some of Tan's decisions have done our club more harm than good. In my opinion, we will never progress with the current hierarchical structure at our club.

Sadly, Swansea have put us to shame for a while with their recruitment. They rarely overspend, they select good managers, they have a playing style identity creating a consistent pathway from their youth academy to their senior first team.

Comparing Swansea and other well run clubs to our current method of overspending one season, then cutting back to compensate for our mistakes the next season, it's clear to see our hierarchy have wasted many millions from poor decisions, and poor running of our club in general.

Our recruitment is poor, we have no playing style, we are terrible to watch. We are currently unable to play a style of football the top teams in this division can play. Warnock performed a miracle, but Warnock's style wasn't sustainable to compete in the Premiership. Off the pitch, a lot of our business decisions are reactive, not proactive. We have continually overspent and we are continually wasting money.

I believe our club needs to head into a new direction. I don't think Neil Harris or any potential new manager currently has a chance with Vincent Tan as our owner, with no money to spend and Dalman demanding a top 6 finish from a squad who are slow, lacking mobility, lacking strength in depth and unable to put more than 2 passes together. I believe we are currently in a position where we need to rip everything up and start afresh from scratch.

Re: This clubs needs a lot more than a new manager

Wed Dec 30, 2020 12:04 am

BluebirdsTilIDie wrote:Yes we do need a new manager and hopefully Harris goes however we need a complete revamp of the squad, there are so many average players in this squad as well as ageing.

We also need footballing men on board Dalman and choo aren’t.

The transfer committee have got a lot wrong over the years as well as hired multiple rubbish managers.

Let’s hope we see changes soon.


More footballing men :thumbup:

Re: This clubs needs a lot more than a new manager

Wed Dec 30, 2020 1:04 am

rumpo kid wrote:The buck always rests at the top thomas, in every organisation. Sure, people make mistakes, but this appointment was made in error as you say. Fergie probably wouldn’t have considered NH, or at least advised against it. Vincent has been excellent on the finances etc, and we should be grateful. But there’s been some howlers on the footy side, to his great cost.


Your right fergie probably wouldn't have advised signing Harris . He would have though advised to sign Solskjaer which shows that no matter how long you have been in football, signing any manager is a gamble . Nobody can get it right every time and Our board are probably on about 60% success rate

Re: This clubs needs a lot more than a new manager

Wed Dec 30, 2020 9:45 am

BluebirdsTilIDie wrote:Yes we do need a new manager and hopefully Harris goes however we need a complete revamp of the squad, there are so many average players in this squad as well as ageing.

We also need footballing men on board Dalman and choo aren’t.

The transfer committee have got a lot wrong over the years as well as hired multiple rubbish managers.

Let’s hope we see changes soon.


I agree - it's not just about the manager, even though it has become clear that Harris has to go. The board consists purely of businessmen not footballing men - so the appointment of a Director of Football may help. But the board has to have a long term plan for the club and the sort of football it wants to play. In the short term, getting to the PL under Warnock was great, but given the type of football we played under him and Harris, this may not have been good for the club in the long term. I didn't enjoy our year in the PL because we were in a relegation battle from start to finish and played awful football. It was soul destroying and if we'd gone up last season it would have been more of the same. I'd prefer Cardiff City to stay in the Championship for a few years and build as a football club with a philosophy based on providing the fans with entertaining football, developing our youth programme as well as our scouting system. I do not think that the current owner and board are capable of doing this: at least not without considerable input from people who know the game and what it takes to develop as a football club. These things are more important than getting to the PL only to come crashing down again after only one season. Footballing people can see this, but maybe businessmen can't.

Re: This clubs needs a lot more than a new manager

Wed Dec 30, 2020 9:53 am

Several of the players need to move on;

All the frees to be released at the end of the season inc Bennett Hoilet Bamba Cunningham and any of those on loan.

Ralls Vaulks Pack Whyte Vassel Murphy Glatzel also need to be shipped out.

Let’s get some young cast offs from the top 6 who have been released and may prove bargains

Re: This clubs needs a lot more than a new manager

Wed Dec 30, 2020 9:57 am

Tan has been/ is best owner we have had in many a year, possibly since Bob Grigan,,cup finals , 2 stints in premiership, beyond la lot of our dreams.
What he needs , is a man on the board with football knowledge.. how he gets that person and who that person is .. well that’s the hard bit.

Re: This clubs needs a lot more than a new manager

Wed Dec 30, 2020 3:18 pm

We fans know what we want in terms of the bigger picture for the future of our club. But to achieve that we need the quality players and manager to take us up the table and our owner dont understand that. We fans still have no idea what Tan's ambitions are. We have not heard from Tan for years so its understandable if we need to hear from our owner ever once in a while.

Re: This clubs needs a lot more than a new manager

Wed Dec 30, 2020 3:19 pm

thomasblue wrote:
BluebirdsTilIDie wrote:Yes we do need a new manager and hopefully Harris goes however we need a complete revamp of the squad, there are so many average players in this squad as well as ageing.

We also need footballing men on board Dalman and choo aren’t.

The transfer committee have got a lot wrong over the years as well as hired multiple rubbish managers.

Let’s hope we see changes soon.


Really ? Another one of these blame the board , yes man , no football men posts

How in any way is that performance tonight the boards fault ?

We could have Alex ferguson sitting in the board room and that performance round have still happened under Harris


It’s obvious the lack of someone with MODERN football knowledge independent of the manager is hindering City.
This person doesn’t need to be a director on the board, as how would that be pertinent but the board need to know if their business is functioning or not, and that comes from a consultant not the manager.
It’s a common part of every day business. The board need guidance and can’t rely on the manager getting it right.