Tue Dec 29, 2020 10:17 pm
Tue Dec 29, 2020 10:41 pm
Tue Dec 29, 2020 10:51 pm
Tue Dec 29, 2020 10:54 pm
Tue Dec 29, 2020 10:58 pm
pengamblue wrote:Billic or Pearson no nonsense managers sought the players out
Wed Dec 30, 2020 12:11 am
oohahhPaulMillar wrote:Paul Cook, Bellamy and Bamba
The 3 could be Manager, coach and dof
No way any of those 3 would put up with that nonsense served up tonight, the players would shite themselves coming back into the dressing room to face those 3
Wed Dec 30, 2020 12:20 am
bluebirdoct1962 wrote:pengamblue wrote:Billic or Pearson no nonsense managers sought the players out
Yup any one of those for me too. Maybe Bilic first choice.
Wed Dec 30, 2020 12:44 am
Sven wrote:bluebirdoct1962 wrote:pengamblue wrote:Billic or Pearson no nonsense managers sought the players out
Yup any one of those for me too. Maybe Bilic first choice.
Beginning to see the value of Pearson; but not so much Billic
Still prefer to see a Craig Bellamy combination with a trusted AN Other tried out until the end of the season
Thu Dec 31, 2020 1:52 pm
Thu Dec 31, 2020 2:08 pm
rumpo kid wrote:Brentford’s Chairman is a fan.. that’s a massive difference in what you do. Like not changing the colour of the shirt. The more I look back at that now, the worse it gets. Complete misunderstanding of a British football club. Stop looking is the answer.
Thu Dec 31, 2020 3:40 pm
rumpo kid wrote:Brentford’s Chairman is a fan.. that’s a massive difference in what you do. Like not changing the colour of the shirt. The more I look back at that now, the worse it gets. Complete misunderstanding of a British football club. Stop looking is the answer.
Thu Dec 31, 2020 4:24 pm
bluesince62 wrote:oohahhPaulMillar wrote:Paul Cook, Bellamy and Bamba
The 3 could be Manager, coach and dof
No way any of those 3 would put up with that nonsense served up tonight, the players would shite themselves coming back into the dressing room to face those 3
Not a bad shout in truth![]()
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Thu Dec 31, 2020 6:59 pm
Thu Dec 31, 2020 7:16 pm
Thu Dec 31, 2020 7:26 pm
thomasblue wrote:Some strange names on this thread
Paul Cook failed in his only season at this level and got relegated , he's a lower league manager in the russel slade mould
Robert Page and Nathan Jones wouldnt even be mentioned if they were not Welsh. They wouldn't be on any other championship teams radar.
Bellamy has only ever looked after kids teams and hasn't been massively successful at that
Bamba has no experience whatsoever and still wants to play not manage
We are scraping the barrel with these names
Bilic would get us promoted but bring us straight back down , he's a foreign Warnock
Pearson is the only real name on this thread we should be looking at in my opinion
Thu Dec 31, 2020 7:28 pm
piledriver64 wrote:rumpo kid wrote:Brentford’s Chairman is a fan.. that’s a massive difference in what you do. Like not changing the colour of the shirt. The more I look back at that now, the worse it gets. Complete misunderstanding of a British football club. Stop looking is the answer.
I'm not overly impressed with the Brentford model.
People criticise Tan for interference but the Brentford owner demands that any manager bases selection and recruitment on stats with very little leeway.
They may be punching above their weight to be fair, but they still haven't actually got promoted and have had to sell a number of their top players.
Imagine the outcry on here if we had to sell Keifer Moore at the end of the season like they had to sell Ollie Watkins![]()
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Thu Dec 31, 2020 10:36 pm
piledriver64 wrote:rumpo kid wrote:Brentford’s Chairman is a fan.. that’s a massive difference in what you do. Like not changing the colour of the shirt. The more I look back at that now, the worse it gets. Complete misunderstanding of a British football club. Stop looking is the answer.
I'm not overly impressed with the Brentford model.
People criticise Tan for interference but the Brentford owner demands that any manager bases selection and recruitment on stats with very little leeway.
They may be punching above their weight to be fair, but they still haven't actually got promoted and have had to sell a number of their top players.
Imagine the outcry on here if we had to sell Keifer Moore at the end of the season like they had to sell Ollie Watkins![]()
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Fri Jan 01, 2021 9:37 am
Blue78 wrote:piledriver64 wrote:rumpo kid wrote:Brentford’s Chairman is a fan.. that’s a massive difference in what you do. Like not changing the colour of the shirt. The more I look back at that now, the worse it gets. Complete misunderstanding of a British football club. Stop looking is the answer.
I'm not overly impressed with the Brentford model.
People criticise Tan for interference but the Brentford owner demands that any manager bases selection and recruitment on stats with very little leeway.
They may be punching above their weight to be fair, but they still haven't actually got promoted and have had to sell a number of their top players.
Imagine the outcry on here if we had to sell Keifer Moore at the end of the season like they had to sell Ollie Watkins![]()
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How can you not be impressed with it?
They have one of the smallest grounds in the league, yet they have been competing near the top for a few seasons now. They had a blip right at the end of last season, but we head and shoulders about many teams.
As for them selling - they bring players in for relatively low fees, develop them abs sell them on for massive money...allowing them to bring in more quality. It’s exactly the type of transfer strategy we should be seeing here. I’d happily sell KM for £30m at the end of the season as it means he’d have done bloody well for us and it would mean a huge profit.
Fri Jan 01, 2021 9:44 am
skidemin wrote:thomasblue wrote:Some strange names on this thread
Paul Cook failed in his only season at this level and got relegated , he's a lower league manager in the russel slade mould
Robert Page and Nathan Jones wouldnt even be mentioned if they were not Welsh. They wouldn't be on any other championship teams radar.
Bellamy has only ever looked after kids teams and hasn't been massively successful at that
Bamba has no experience whatsoever and still wants to play not manage
We are scraping the barrel with these names
Bilic would get us promoted but bring us straight back down , he's a foreign Warnock
Pearson is the only real name on this thread we should be looking at in my opinion
not really Paul Cook had a small budget kept Wigan up the first year and got relegated last { 2nd year } not by results but by a pretty unfair points deduction.. picking up as many points as we did 2nd half of last season with a wage bill a quarter of ours..... 3 promotions plus a play off spot in 7 full seasons.. ..slade has one play offs and zero promotions in 25 years..
would be a realistic appointment... i agree bamba and bellers no real experience...but pearson and billic would both probably want promises of a war chest which i do not see us promising...
Fri Jan 01, 2021 3:41 pm
piledriver64 wrote:rumpo kid wrote:Brentford’s Chairman is a fan.. that’s a massive difference in what you do. Like not changing the colour of the shirt. The more I look back at that now, the worse it gets. Complete misunderstanding of a British football club. Stop looking is the answer.
I'm not overly impressed with the Brentford model.
People criticise Tan for interference but the Brentford owner demands that any manager bases selection and recruitment on stats with very little leeway.
They may be punching above their weight to be fair, but they still haven't actually got promoted and have had to sell a number of their top players.
Imagine the outcry on here if we had to sell Keifer Moore at the end of the season like they had to sell Ollie Watkins![]()
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Fri Jan 01, 2021 6:08 pm
Fri Jan 01, 2021 7:17 pm
Barclay1 wrote:A lot of names quoted on here, Cook, Ainsworth, Page, Jones, Bamba are never gonna manage in the Premier league. Full stop.
Pearson is in a different class, Bellars I can see managing a Prem team, as perhaps Giggs.
Tan is afraid to get a top class manager as it will show up his lack of football knowledge.
Me? I'd plough as much money at, and give whatever funding he wanted to Steven Gerrard (I know it won't happen) ..... but I dare Tan to just think about it!
Fri Jan 01, 2021 10:56 pm
thomasblue wrote:skidemin wrote:thomasblue wrote:Some strange names on this thread
Paul Cook failed in his only season at this level and got relegated , he's a lower league manager in the russel slade mould
Robert Page and Nathan Jones wouldnt even be mentioned if they were not Welsh. They wouldn't be on any other championship teams radar.
Bellamy has only ever looked after kids teams and hasn't been massively successful at that
Bamba has no experience whatsoever and still wants to play not manage
We are scraping the barrel with these names
Bilic would get us promoted but bring us straight back down , he's a foreign Warnock
Pearson is the only real name on this thread we should be looking at in my opinion
not really Paul Cook had a small budget kept Wigan up the first year and got relegated last { 2nd year } not by results but by a pretty unfair points deduction.. picking up as many points as we did 2nd half of last season with a wage bill a quarter of ours..... 3 promotions plus a play off spot in 7 full seasons.. ..slade has one play offs and zero promotions in 25 years..
would be a realistic appointment... i agree bamba and bellers no real experience...but pearson and billic would both probably want promises of a war chest which i do not see us promising...
I cant see us going for any of them and dont really think any other than Pearson would do a good job here in reality.
Paul Cook whichever way you look at it would be a massive gamble and it wouldn't even be 50/50 hes a good lower league manager but we should be setting our sights higher if we want sustained success and the fans to get behind the team. A named manger brings excitement and in turn boosts belief in the players
Fri Jan 01, 2021 11:23 pm
Sat Jan 02, 2021 9:10 am
Dazzy wrote:I’d love to see Bellers given a chance. I’ve always thought he could be a brilliant manager. Reality is that it would be a punt which could go either way, but we’re hardly offering any incoming managers a wad of cash so we can’t be overly selective.
I feel people are massively overrating Pearson. He spent years getting Leicester promoted having been massively bankrolled. He was on last chance saloon the year they finally made it. Since then he was sacked by Derby having had a big dressing room revolt against him. He came in and did well at Watford before being very harshly dismissed.
I do like Paul Cook and, if the board want a change of style, he stands out as a very good option. Anyone saying ‘well he got relegated’ has no understanding of the reality of the situation. IMO he did very well under challenging circumstances.
If we want to follow the Warnock approach, I’d certainly not be against Pullis. It’s really hard to tell whether or not he’s still got it in him to deliver what he did st Stoke or Palace but I’d be up for finding out. He did ok at Boro and it sounds like he was under a complete looney at Wednesday
Sat Jan 02, 2021 9:48 am
Sat Jan 02, 2021 10:20 am
Dazzy wrote:I’d love a tried and tested manager. Hughton would be been my first choice before he went to Forest. Eddie Howe would be a dream appointment. There’s not many who’ve been there and done it with an unblemished track record though.
The football that Wigan we’re playing and the brilliant recruitment almost allowed them to escape the drop despite the points deduction.
As I say, bar Howe (who I don’t think would come), I’d personally give Bellamy the job when it comes up.
Sat Jan 02, 2021 10:29 am
Sven wrote:rumpo kid wrote:Brentford’s Chairman is a fan.. that’s a massive difference in what you do. Like not changing the colour of the shirt. The more I look back at that now, the worse it gets. Complete misunderstanding of a British football club. Stop looking is the answer.
Hello, we changed back to blue and the owner apologised some time ago!
Unless you're 'Frozen' in time, just let it go...!
Sat Jan 02, 2021 11:23 am
piledriver64 wrote:rumpo kid wrote:Brentford’s Chairman is a fan.. that’s a massive difference in what you do. Like not changing the colour of the shirt. The more I look back at that now, the worse it gets. Complete misunderstanding of a British football club. Stop looking is the answer.
I'm not overly impressed with the Brentford model.
People criticise Tan for interference but the Brentford owner demands that any manager bases selection and recruitment on stats with very little leeway.
They may be punching above their weight to be fair, but they still haven't actually got promoted and have had to sell a number of their top players.
Imagine the outcry on here if we had to sell Keifer Moore at the end of the season like they had to sell Ollie Watkins![]()
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Sat Jan 02, 2021 1:03 pm
thomasblue wrote:Dazzy wrote:I’d love a tried and tested manager. Hughton would be been my first choice before he went to Forest. Eddie Howe would be a dream appointment. There’s not many who’ve been there and done it with an unblemished track record though.
The football that Wigan we’re playing and the brilliant recruitment almost allowed them to escape the drop despite the points deduction.
As I say, bar Howe (who I don’t think would come), I’d personally give Bellamy the job when it comes up.
I agree Howe is the main choice but that will depend on what few things all coming together including the boards ambition for the club and Howes willingness to drop a division and start again. Its not out of the question nobody else higher up seems interested.
Wigans recruitment was at a lower level. Signing big name , big wage championship and premier league players is a totally different ball game. Totally different levels.
Its also interesting the fact a lot of people wanted Hughton and Pulis.
Hughton is failing badly at Forest with a good squad, Pulis didn't win a single game at WednesdY and got sacked.
It shows how hard it is to actually pick a manager at this level. The big name won't drop down and the lower names are not good enough .