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The only manager we could afford

Sun Dec 27, 2020 10:23 am

I can't see us getting rid of Harris as we don't have a pot to piss in! So there us no way we are going to pay off his contract and then give a new manager money for new players.

The only manager we could afford is Ian Holloway and his style of play would mean we could get away with the squad we got now and stay in mid table just like we will under Harris.

Re: The only manager we could afford

Sun Dec 27, 2020 3:15 pm

dazza wrote:I can't see us getting rid of Harris as we don't have a pot to piss in! So there us no way we are going to pay off his contract and then give a new manager money for new players.

The only manager we could afford is Ian Holloway and his style of play would mean we could get away with the squad we got now and stay in mid table just like we will under Harris.


I think you underestimate the pull of a club like Cardiff . At of managers will come here as its a big championship job with very good prospects of promotion if they get it right.

We can afford a decent manager its just finding the right one

Re: The only manager we could afford

Sun Dec 27, 2020 3:23 pm

thomasblue wrote:
dazza wrote:I can't see us getting rid of Harris as we don't have a pot to piss in! So there us no way we are going to pay off his contract and then give a new manager money for new players.

The only manager we could afford is Ian Holloway and his style of play would mean we could get away with the squad we got now and stay in mid table just like we will under Harris.


I think you underestimate the pull of a club like Cardiff . At of managers will come here as its a big championship job with very good prospects of promotion if they get it right.

We can afford a decent manager its just finding the right one


I think you overestimate the pull of Cardiff, as do most of us on here with our blue tinted glasses.

Re: The only manager we could afford

Sun Dec 27, 2020 4:18 pm

Welshman in CA wrote:
thomasblue wrote:
dazza wrote:I can't see us getting rid of Harris as we don't have a pot to piss in! So there us no way we are going to pay off his contract and then give a new manager money for new players.

The only manager we could afford is Ian Holloway and his style of play would mean we could get away with the squad we got now and stay in mid table just like we will under Harris.


I think you underestimate the pull of a club like Cardiff . At of managers will come here as its a big championship job with very good prospects of promotion if they get it right.

We can afford a decent manager its just finding the right one


I think you overestimate the pull of Cardiff, as do most of us on here with our blue tinted glasses.


Name a bigger managerial job available at this moment in time in Britain ?

Capital city club
35k seater stadium
Premier league club twice in last 6 years
Spent over £200million on signings in 10 years
Billionaire owner
Big fan base
Very good squad at this level

Whats the downside for a manager other than the league status

Re: The only manager we could afford

Sun Dec 27, 2020 4:38 pm

thomasblue wrote:
Welshman in CA wrote:
thomasblue wrote:
dazza wrote:I can't see us getting rid of Harris as we don't have a pot to piss in! So there us no way we are going to pay off his contract and then give a new manager money for new players.

The only manager we could afford is Ian Holloway and his style of play would mean we could get away with the squad we got now and stay in mid table just like we will under Harris.


I think you underestimate the pull of a club like Cardiff . At of managers will come here as its a big championship job with very good prospects of promotion if they get it right.

We can afford a decent manager its just finding the right one


I think you overestimate the pull of Cardiff, as do most of us on here with our blue tinted glasses.


Name a bigger managerial job available at this moment in time in Britain ?

Capital city club
35k seater stadium
Premier league club twice in last 6 years
Spent over £200million on signings in 10 years
Billionaire owner
Big fan base
Very good squad at this level

Whats the downside for a manager other than the league status



the most important thing for any manager with any sort of track record / reputation would be the package on offer..... 2 questions...are you confident you could do considerably better with the squad available than the sacked fella has done .... and exactly what sort of backing will you be getting ...honestly mate as a fan i think our squad is too light....and i dont see any substantial backing in the next window.. i dont think fan base or capital city come into it.{ i remember MM saying about 6 months in how surprised he was at how big the catchment area was } ... if you come here and die it could well be your last job...

Re: The only manager we could afford

Sun Dec 27, 2020 5:43 pm

thomasblue wrote:
Welshman in CA wrote:
thomasblue wrote:
dazza wrote:I can't see us getting rid of Harris as we don't have a pot to piss in! So there us no way we are going to pay off his contract and then give a new manager money for new players.

The only manager we could afford is Ian Holloway and his style of play would mean we could get away with the squad we got now and stay in mid table just like we will under Harris.


I think you underestimate the pull of a club like Cardiff . At of managers will come here as its a big championship job with very good prospects of promotion if they get it right.

We can afford a decent manager its just finding the right one


I think you overestimate the pull of Cardiff, as do most of us on here with our blue tinted glasses.


Name a bigger managerial job available at this moment in time in Britain ?

Capital city club
35k seater stadium
Premier league club twice in last 6 years
Spent over £200million on signings in 10 years
Billionaire owner
Big fan base
Very good squad at this level

Whats the downside for a manager other than the league status


Why name one as ours is also not available. 200 million in 10 years?????? So what, the big teams can & do spend that in one window depending on who they want. Are you sure we have a very good squad? Where is your proof of this? As for the rest of your statements they are meaningless to a manager and if they were as important as you make out maybe we should give Jurgen Klopp a call as he doesn't manage a capital city club, or Pep as he doesn't either.

And look what you did, you have made me agree with skid! :banghead: :banghead:

Re: The only manager we could afford

Sun Dec 27, 2020 6:01 pm

Welshman in CA wrote:
thomasblue wrote:
Welshman in CA wrote:
thomasblue wrote:
dazza wrote:I can't see us getting rid of Harris as we don't have a pot to piss in! So there us no way we are going to pay off his contract and then give a new manager money for new players.

The only manager we could afford is Ian Holloway and his style of play would mean we could get away with the squad we got now and stay in mid table just like we will under Harris.


I think you underestimate the pull of a club like Cardiff . At of managers will come here as its a big championship job with very good prospects of promotion if they get it right.

We can afford a decent manager its just finding the right one


I think you overestimate the pull of Cardiff, as do most of us on here with our blue tinted glasses.


Name a bigger managerial job available at this moment in time in Britain ?

Capital city club
35k seater stadium
Premier league club twice in last 6 years
Spent over £200million on signings in 10 years
Billionaire owner
Big fan base
Very good squad at this level

Whats the downside for a manager other than the league status


Why name one as ours is also not available. 200 million in 10 years?????? So what, the big teams can & do spend that in one window depending on who they want. Are you sure we have a very good squad? Where is your proof of this? As for the rest of your statements they are meaningless to a manager and if they were as important as you make out maybe we should give Jurgen Klopp a call as he doesn't manage a capital city club, or Pep as he doesn't either.

And look what you did, you have made me agree with skid! :banghead: :banghead:


Whether ours managers job is available or not is irrelevant. If we had no manager today is there a bigger club with a vacancy that would attract out of work managers ?
We would be very attractive to a lot of out of work managers. Why wouldn't we be , we have all the pieces in place to be a very successful club with very little work.

Big teams don't spend £200million in one window , elite teams like Man City do and to be honest I dont think a British team has ever spent that in a single window before.

It averages out at £20 million per season over tans reign as owner. That is huge for a championship club .

My proof of the squad is in its value and recent history. Most of them played , all but three of the team that played yesterday have played in the premier league. The ones who haven't cost us over £15 million to buy.

They might not be playing well at the moment but that is down to the manager not the players

Re: The only manager we could afford

Sun Dec 27, 2020 6:01 pm

All we could afford? .i wonder how much Steve cooper is costing the jacks?

Re: The only manager we could afford

Sun Dec 27, 2020 6:36 pm

thomasblue wrote:
Welshman in CA wrote:
thomasblue wrote:
Welshman in CA wrote:
thomasblue wrote:
dazza wrote:I can't see us getting rid of Harris as we don't have a pot to piss in! So there us no way we are going to pay off his contract and then give a new manager money for new players.

The only manager we could afford is Ian Holloway and his style of play would mean we could get away with the squad we got now and stay in mid table just like we will under Harris.


I think you underestimate the pull of a club like Cardiff . At of managers will come here as its a big championship job with very good prospects of promotion if they get it right.

We can afford a decent manager its just finding the right one


I think you overestimate the pull of Cardiff, as do most of us on here with our blue tinted glasses.


Name a bigger managerial job available at this moment in time in Britain ?

Capital city club
35k seater stadium
Premier league club twice in last 6 years
Spent over £200million on signings in 10 years
Billionaire owner
Big fan base
Very good squad at this level

Whats the downside for a manager other than the league status


Why name one as ours is also not available. 200 million in 10 years?????? So what, the big teams can & do spend that in one window depending on who they want. Are you sure we have a very good squad? Where is your proof of this? As for the rest of your statements they are meaningless to a manager and if they were as important as you make out maybe we should give Jurgen Klopp a call as he doesn't manage a capital city club, or Pep as he doesn't either.

And look what you did, you have made me agree with skid! :banghead: :banghead:


Whether ours managers job is available or not is irrelevant. If we had no manager today is there a bigger club with a vacancy that would attract out of work managers ?
We would be very attractive to a lot of out of work managers. Why wouldn't we be , we have all the pieces in place to be a very successful club with very little work.

Big teams don't spend £200million in one window , elite teams like Man City do and to be honest I dont think a British team has ever spent that in a single window before.

It averages out at £20 million per season over tans reign as owner. That is huge for a championship club .

My proof of the squad is in its value and recent history. Most of them played , all but three of the team that played yesterday have played in the premier league. The ones who haven't cost us over £15 million to buy.

They might not be playing well at the moment but that is down to the manager not the players


We could do this all day but you can't argue with hypothetical ifs. We don't have a position for a manager yet so it doesn't matter if there's a bigger club available today, there might be tomorrow and the world might also stop spinning tomorrow.

We were in the premier for 2 of the 10 seasons you're using so take those out of your 20 million average and what do you came up with? Not that it matters but at least compare apples to apples and not apples to milk.

As for the squad is great it's the managers fault, would this be the same manager who got us top 6 last year or was that in spite of him rather than because of him? The squad is as much as fault and in my opinion isn't as great as you seem to think, and while the manager isn't the best there is we may as well stick with him until the end of the season.

Re: The only manager we could afford

Sun Dec 27, 2020 7:14 pm

Welshman in CA wrote:
thomasblue wrote:
Welshman in CA wrote:
thomasblue wrote:
Welshman in CA wrote:
thomasblue wrote:
dazza wrote:I can't see us getting rid of Harris as we don't have a pot to piss in! So there us no way we are going to pay off his contract and then give a new manager money for new players.

The only manager we could afford is Ian Holloway and his style of play would mean we could get away with the squad we got now and stay in mid table just like we will under Harris.


I think you underestimate the pull of a club like Cardiff . At of managers will come here as its a big championship job with very good prospects of promotion if they get it right.

We can afford a decent manager its just finding the right one


I think you overestimate the pull of Cardiff, as do most of us on here with our blue tinted glasses.


Name a bigger managerial job available at this moment in time in Britain ?

Capital city club
35k seater stadium
Premier league club twice in last 6 years
Spent over £200million on signings in 10 years
Billionaire owner
Big fan base
Very good squad at this level

Whats the downside for a manager other than the league status


Why name one as ours is also not available. 200 million in 10 years?????? So what, the big teams can & do spend that in one window depending on who they want. Are you sure we have a very good squad? Where is your proof of this? As for the rest of your statements they are meaningless to a manager and if they were as important as you make out maybe we should give Jurgen Klopp a call as he doesn't manage a capital city club, or Pep as he doesn't either.

And look what you did, you have made me agree with skid! :banghead: :banghead:


Whether ours managers job is available or not is irrelevant. If we had no manager today is there a bigger club with a vacancy that would attract out of work managers ?
We would be very attractive to a lot of out of work managers. Why wouldn't we be , we have all the pieces in place to be a very successful club with very little work.

Big teams don't spend £200million in one window , elite teams like Man City do and to be honest I dont think a British team has ever spent that in a single window before.

It averages out at £20 million per season over tans reign as owner. That is huge for a championship club .

My proof of the squad is in its value and recent history. Most of them played , all but three of the team that played yesterday have played in the premier league. The ones who haven't cost us over £15 million to buy.

They might not be playing well at the moment but that is down to the manager not the players


We could do this all day but you can't argue with hypothetical ifs. We don't have a position for a manager yet so it doesn't matter if there's a bigger club available today, there might be tomorrow and the world might also stop spinning tomorrow.

We were in the premier for 2 of the 10 seasons you're using so take those out of your 20 million average and what do you came up with? Not that it matters but at least compare apples to apples and not apples to milk.

As for the squad is great it's the managers fault, would this be the same manager who got us top 6 last year or was that in spite of him rather than because of him? The squad is as much as fault and in my opinion isn't as great as you seem to think, and while the manager isn't the best there is we may as well stick with him until the end of the season.


You mention the squad not being great but we have arguably the best keeper in the league with Smithies , the best centre back in the league with Morrison and the best playmaker in Wilson backed up by a Welsh International striker in Kieffed Moore to complete the spine of the team.

If the manager cannot put together a play off team around those four then he is simply not good enough in my opinion. Last season we had a good run but got lucky in a lot of games, this season that hasn't happened.

Add to them multiple International players

Talented players like Lee Tomlin as back up.

Two quality young Premier league loanees from top 4 clubs

A £15 million croatian international centre back who does not play.

The squad is better than people think, a good manager would take this squad top 6 easily this season

Re: The only manager we could afford

Sun Dec 27, 2020 7:25 pm

thomasblue wrote:
Welshman in CA wrote:
thomasblue wrote:
Welshman in CA wrote:
thomasblue wrote:
dazza wrote:I can't see us getting rid of Harris as we don't have a pot to piss in! So there us no way we are going to pay off his contract and then give a new manager money for new players.

The only manager we could afford is Ian Holloway and his style of play would mean we could get away with the squad we got now and stay in mid table just like we will under Harris.


I think you underestimate the pull of a club like Cardiff . At of managers will come here as its a big championship job with very good prospects of promotion if they get it right.

We can afford a decent manager its just finding the right one


I think you overestimate the pull of Cardiff, as do most of us on here with our blue tinted glasses.


Name a bigger managerial job available at this moment in time in Britain ?

Capital city club
35k seater stadium
Premier league club twice in last 6 years
Spent over £200million on signings in 10 years
Billionaire owner
Big fan base
Very good squad at this level

Whats the downside for a manager other than the league status


Why name one as ours is also not available. 200 million in 10 years?????? So what, the big teams can & do spend that in one window depending on who they want. Are you sure we have a very good squad? Where is your proof of this? As for the rest of your statements they are meaningless to a manager and if they were as important as you make out maybe we should give Jurgen Klopp a call as he doesn't manage a capital city club, or Pep as he doesn't either.

And look what you did, you have made me agree with skid! :banghead: :banghead:


Whether ours managers job is available or not is irrelevant. If we had no manager today is there a bigger club with a vacancy that would attract out of work managers ?
We would be very attractive to a lot of out of work managers. Why wouldn't we be , we have all the pieces in place to be a very successful club with very little work.

Big teams don't spend £200million in one window , elite teams like Man City do and to be honest I dont think a British team has ever spent that in a single window before.

It averages out at £20 million per season over tans reign as owner. That is huge for a championship club .

My proof of the squad is in its value and recent history. Most of them played , all but three of the team that played yesterday have played in the premier league. The ones who haven't cost us over £15 million to buy.

They might not be playing well at the moment but that is down to the manager not the players



really depends on who the out of work manager is mate..someone whose stock is high and is waiting for the right club...or someone whose not been offered anything for a few years..... but i think the world as moved on from catchment areas.... and that there are clubs in our division who hold potentially far better prospects than ours despite traditionally being smaller clubs...