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So Covid is a hoax and only affects older people!!!

Wed Dec 23, 2020 1:57 pm

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Latest figures show more and more younger people are getting Covid19 especially school children.
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Re: So Covid is a hoax and only affects older people!!!

Wed Dec 23, 2020 5:09 pm

no idea why you keep going back to hoax.... or who said kids dont get it.

Re: So Covid is a hoax and only affects older people!!!

Wed Dec 23, 2020 5:19 pm

skidemin wrote:no idea why you keep going back to hoax.... or who said kids dont get it.

Many people on here have said that its all a conpiracy and what i said was the there has been an astronomical rise in school children catching covid

Re: So Covid is a hoax and only affects older people!!!

Wed Dec 23, 2020 5:33 pm

Igovernor wrote:
skidemin wrote:no idea why you keep going back to hoax.... or who said kids dont get it.

Many people on here have said that its all a conpiracy and what i said was the there has been an astronomical rise in school children catching covid



i think most of the conspiracy theories revolve around the reaction or over reaction..not to the fact that its something that does not exist... as for kids being tested i doubt very much age groups where very very few were actually becoming ill were top of anyones list for testing when capacity was less than one hundreth of what it is now...

Re: So Covid is a hoax and only affects older people!!!

Wed Dec 23, 2020 5:36 pm

Yet the government insist on trying to keep the schools open,education is important,but stopping the spread of the virus should be the most important part

Re: So Covid is a hoax and only affects older people!!!

Wed Dec 23, 2020 5:42 pm

Igovernor wrote:
skidemin wrote:no idea why you keep going back to hoax.... or who said kids dont get it.

Many people on here have said that its all a conpiracy and what i said was the there has been an astronomical rise in school children catching covid

The younger generations are now equally 'at risk' and perhaps more susceptible to the new strains (a third has now been found) of the virus

This is not good and will continue to wreak havoc until the vaccine has been distributed to enough people

Re: So Covid is a hoax and only affects older people!!!

Wed Dec 23, 2020 5:50 pm

Sven wrote:
Igovernor wrote:
skidemin wrote:no idea why you keep going back to hoax.... or who said kids dont get it.

Many people on here have said that its all a conpiracy and what i said was the there has been an astronomical rise in school children catching covid

The younger generations are now equally 'at risk' and perhaps more susceptible to the new strains (a third has now been found) of the virus

This is not good and will continue to wreak havoc until the vaccine has been distributed to enough people



This is what a virus does, it mutates,they are going to have to change vaccine to keep up! Although they are "quite sure" the vaccine will work on the new strain(not the 3rd)
The trouble is in getting enough of the vaccine to those in most urgent need,and ive just been reading,those who have had it already,must have the 2nd dose 21 days later,but there are delays already,meaning they may not have 2nd jab in the time frame specified by manufacturer.

Re: So Covid is a hoax and only affects older people!!!

Wed Dec 23, 2020 6:01 pm

Young people get infected sure, but generally have minor symptoms. I have a challenge for you:

- Break down total deaths by age groups.
- Break down total deaths by those with comorbidities and no Comorbidities.

Come back with those numbers. You will find the number of people under 70 who have died from coronavirus with zero comorbidities is very low.

Re: So Covid is a hoax and only affects older people!!!

Wed Dec 23, 2020 6:49 pm

Sven wrote:
Igovernor wrote:
skidemin wrote:no idea why you keep going back to hoax.... or who said kids dont get it.

Many people on here have said that its all a conpiracy and what i said was the there has been an astronomical rise in school children catching covid

The younger generations are now equally 'at risk' and perhaps more susceptible to the new strains (a third has now been found) of the virus

This is not good and will continue to wreak havoc until the vaccine has been distributed to enough people



equally at risk of being tested positive.

Re: So Covid is a hoax and only affects older people!!!

Wed Dec 23, 2020 7:05 pm

Absolutely correct in what you say unfortunately there are millions of people in this country over 70.
Also there millions in this country of all age groups with underlying health issues so potentially millions of deaths

Re: So Covid is a hoax and only affects older people!!!

Wed Dec 23, 2020 8:06 pm

skiprat wrote:Absolutely correct in what you say unfortunately there are millions of people in this country over 70.
Also there millions in this country of all age groups with underlying health issues so potentially millions of deaths



Yes wales has higher aging population in proportion to other age groups... but have barely started rolling it out for over 80s! Cant see wales getting fully done until late next year . :shock:

Re: So Covid is a hoax and only affects older people!!!

Wed Dec 23, 2020 8:19 pm

skiprat wrote:Absolutely correct in what you say unfortunately there are millions of people in this country over 70.
Also there millions in this country of all age groups with underlying health issues so potentially millions of deaths



no its not going to kill millions of us...

Re: So Covid is a hoax and only affects older people!!!

Wed Dec 23, 2020 8:30 pm

JasonFowler1991 wrote:Young people get infected sure, but generally have minor symptoms. I have a challenge for you:

- Break down total deaths by age groups.
- Break down total deaths by those with comorbidities and no Comorbidities.

Come back with those numbers. You will find the number of people under 70 who have died from coronavirus with zero comorbidities is very low.



most people dont.....its as if fear has gripped them and they are hooked on it... its not even under 70.... far more people catch this 80+ with underlying illnesses that dont even get really ill than do get really ill.. and your far far more likely to die of something else than no matter what age youve reached.... ironic as it is the really really mental figures are coming from peopl;e that use the phrase conspiracy theory a lot unable to see what they thing is even wider of the mark...

Re: So Covid is a hoax and only affects older people!!!

Wed Dec 23, 2020 8:43 pm

skiprat wrote:Absolutely correct in what you say unfortunately there are millions of people in this country over 70.
Also there millions in this country of all age groups with underlying health issues so potentially millions of deaths


Yes. So let's do what we have always done - protect the vulnerable and allow them to take precautionary measures. The rest of us should be able to get on with our lives, keeping the economy alive and paying into services that are needed for the vulnerable, such as the NHS. Lockdowns are dragging millions into poverty, which will eventually lead to further excess deaths and many other social and health issues.

The average of death in the UK from Covid19 is 83. The average life expectancy in the UK is 81.

Re: So Covid is a hoax and only affects older people!!!

Wed Dec 23, 2020 9:23 pm

JasonFowler1991 wrote:
skiprat wrote:Absolutely correct in what you say unfortunately there are millions of people in this country over 70.
Also there millions in this country of all age groups with underlying health issues so potentially millions of deaths


Yes. So let's do what we have always done - protect the vulnerable and allow them to take precautionary measures. The rest of us should be able to get on with our lives, keeping the economy alive and paying into services that are needed for the vulnerable, such as the NHS. Lockdowns are dragging millions into poverty, which will eventually lead to further excess deaths and many other social and health issues.

The average of death in the UK from Covid19 is 83. The average life expectancy in the UK is 81.



Bet when this is all over they wont use the above average deaths to show how man people will die because of lack of diagnosis or treatment delays like they do to determine how many died of covid? ? Already waiting lists have gone up 7 fold from before pre covid times .. :o

Re: So Covid is a hoax and only affects older people!!!

Wed Dec 23, 2020 9:30 pm

pembroke allan wrote:
JasonFowler1991 wrote:
skiprat wrote:Absolutely correct in what you say unfortunately there are millions of people in this country over 70.
Also there millions in this country of all age groups with underlying health issues so potentially millions of deaths


Yes. So let's do what we have always done - protect the vulnerable and allow them to take precautionary measures. The rest of us should be able to get on with our lives, keeping the economy alive and paying into services that are needed for the vulnerable, such as the NHS. Lockdowns are dragging millions into poverty, which will eventually lead to further excess deaths and many other social and health issues.

The average of death in the UK from Covid19 is 83. The average life expectancy in the UK is 81.



Bet when this is all over they wont use the above average deaths to show how man people will die because of lack of diagnosis or treatment delays like they do to determine how many died of covid? ? Already waiting lists have gone up 7 fold from before pre covid times .. :o


Yep - there is no death calculator for anything else. Or any other type of calculator, like a debt one, or an unemployment one, or a cancelled doctors appointment one. But we do have a death and case calculator for Covid19, as well as politicians and other high figure personality's taking a vaccine on live TV. It is literally propaganda.

Seeing Joe Biden taking a vaccine on T.V reminded me of when Obama went to Flint, Michigan and pretended to drink their tap water, which was full of lead. Link: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oQmCAod_UpE

Re: So Covid is a hoax and only affects older people!!!

Wed Dec 23, 2020 10:08 pm

JasonFowler1991 wrote:
pembroke allan wrote:
JasonFowler1991 wrote:
skiprat wrote:Absolutely correct in what you say unfortunately there are millions of people in this country over 70.
Also there millions in this country of all age groups with underlying health issues so potentially millions of deaths


Yes. So let's do what we have always done - protect the vulnerable and allow them to take precautionary measures. The rest of us should be able to get on with our lives, keeping the economy alive and paying into services that are needed for the vulnerable, such as the NHS. Lockdowns are dragging millions into poverty, which will eventually lead to further excess deaths and many other social and health issues.

The average of death in the UK from Covid19 is 83. The average life expectancy in the UK is 81.



Bet when this is all over they wont use the above average deaths to show how man people will die because of lack of diagnosis or treatment delays like they do to determine how many died of covid? ? Already waiting lists have gone up 7 fold from before pre covid times .. :o


Yep - there is no death calculator for anything else. Or any other type of calculator, like a debt one, or an unemployment one, or a cancelled doctors appointment one. But we do have a death and case calculator for Covid19, as well as politicians and other high figure personality's taking a vaccine on live TV. It is literally propaganda.

Seeing Joe Biden taking a vaccine on T.V reminded me of when Obama went to Flint, Michigan and pretended to drink their tap water, which was full of lead. Link: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oQmCAod_UpE



I vaguely remember a uk politician faking something for benefit of the press years ago? Politicians certainly wont want extra deaths from cancer/heart diseases ect to be shouted out to loud as that will start recriminations of how boris failed to handle pandemic and allowed nhs to fall apart!! :old:

Re: So Covid is a hoax and only affects older people!!!

Wed Dec 23, 2020 11:42 pm

Let’s be honest the way this has been dealt with has been a shit show from start to finish.

There are countries in Asia who have dealt with this so much better. We still aren’t learning lessons from them.

The inquest into this when it’s over is going to be a bloodbath.

Re: So Covid is a hoax and only affects older people!!!

Wed Dec 23, 2020 11:43 pm

JasonFowler1991 wrote:
pembroke allan wrote:
JasonFowler1991 wrote:
skiprat wrote:Absolutely correct in what you say unfortunately there are millions of people in this country over 70.
Also there millions in this country of all age groups with underlying health issues so potentially millions of deaths


Yes. So let's do what we have always done - protect the vulnerable and allow them to take precautionary measures. The rest of us should be able to get on with our lives, keeping the economy alive and paying into services that are needed for the vulnerable, such as the NHS. Lockdowns are dragging millions into poverty, which will eventually lead to further excess deaths and many other social and health issues.

The average of death in the UK from Covid19 is 83. The average life expectancy in the UK is 81.



Bet when this is all over they wont use the above average deaths to show how man people will die because of lack of diagnosis or treatment delays like they do to determine how many died of covid? ? Already waiting lists have gone up 7 fold from before pre covid times .. :o


Yep - there is no death calculator for anything else. Or any other type of calculator, like a debt one, or an unemployment one, or a cancelled doctors appointment one. But we do have a death and case calculator for Covid19, as well as politicians and other high figure personality's taking a vaccine on live TV. It is literally propaganda.

Seeing Joe Biden taking a vaccine on T.V reminded me of when Obama went to Flint, Michigan and pretended to drink their tap water, which was full of lead. Link: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oQmCAod_UpE



i honestly dont think any of those graphs, illness calculators or anything else would now work... people either know exactly how many are dying... or have an inflated figure in mind that they for some reason do not want to question...
im more concerned how easily everyone has accepted it than of covid itself...

Re: So Covid is a hoax and only affects older people!!!

Thu Dec 24, 2020 12:40 am

I can assure you covid is not a hoax, me and my partner are 24 and 26, fit and healthy and we tested positive and were both really ill and my mrs was advised to go to hospital because of her breathing, thankfully we both recovered and no real bad long lasting effects, so I can assure everyone it is not a hoax, I do understand that we are one of the unlucky ones though who had bad symptoms whilst most will have mild or no symptoms

Re: So Covid is a hoax and only affects older people!!!

Thu Dec 24, 2020 7:48 am

Its become more and more obvious by the day that Schools universities and holidays are to blame for the rises in cases

Hard as it may be we need to shut them until February whilst allowing businesses to open to protect the economy

Anything else is just kicking the can down the road to next winter when it will just start again

Re: So Covid is a hoax and only affects older people!!!

Thu Dec 24, 2020 8:22 am

They banned travel in Wales for months on the back of not wanting to spread the virus. Lockdown released in July, coastal resorts busier than ever through July and August no spike in September or October.

Cardiff one of the safer big cities.

Then schools go back, universities open and 80k commuters come back to Cardiff.

Surprise, surprise the spike kicks in !!

Why on earth did they allow 100k students back when 75% of courses are being done on-line !!??

Not much common sense has been used throughout this process but it’s got worse as we’ve gone through this !!

Re: So Covid is a hoax and only affects older people!!!

Thu Dec 24, 2020 9:05 am

piledriver64 wrote:They banned travel in Wales for months on the back of not wanting to spread the virus. Lockdown released in July, coastal resorts busier than ever through July and August no spike in September or October.

Cardiff one of the safer big cities.

Then schools go back, universities open and 80k commuters come back to Cardiff.

Surprise, surprise the spike kicks in !!

Why on earth did they allow 100k students back when 75% of courses are being done on-line !!??

Not much common sense has been used throughout this process but it’s got worse as we’ve gone through this !!


Don't forget this current variant of the virus originated in Northern Spain. It was foreign travel that helped it arrive here after we had cleared the virus down over the summer .

This new mutation of it apparently originated here which is why other countries have banned us travelling already which we failed to do end of the summer.

Re: So Covid is a hoax and only affects older people!!!

Thu Dec 24, 2020 9:30 am

Igovernor wrote:
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Latest figures show more and more younger people are getting Covid19 especially school children.


Average age of someone dying from covid -related illness in the UK is over 82 yrs old. If you thin that's young you must be f****ng Methusala. And no-one claimed kids didn't get it, just that they were very very unlikely to have symptoms.

Re: So Covid is a hoax and only affects older people!!!

Thu Dec 24, 2020 9:39 am

A Quiet Monkfish wrote:
Igovernor wrote:
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Latest figures show more and more younger people are getting Covid19 especially school children.


Average age of someone dying from covid -related illness in the UK is over 82 yrs old. If you thin that's young you must be f****ng Methusala. And no-one claimed kids didn't get it, just that they were very very unlikely to have symptoms.


No symptoms but can pass it on, get real :banghead:

Re: So Covid is a hoax and only affects older people!!!

Thu Dec 24, 2020 10:39 am

piledriver64 wrote:They banned travel in Wales for months on the back of not wanting to spread the virus. Lockdown released in July, coastal resorts busier than ever through July and August no spike in September or October.

Cardiff one of the safer big cities.

Then schools go back, universities open and 80k commuters come back to Cardiff.

Surprise, surprise the spike kicks in !!

Why on earth did they allow 100k students back when 75% of courses are being done on-line !!??

Not much common sense has been used throughout this process but it’s got worse as we’ve gone through this !!


Totally agree. Brought students back (and school) and it started going through the roof.

The students catch it, isolate and have to work online anyway so no upside to actually bringing them back.

Re: So Covid is a hoax and only affects older people!!!

Thu Dec 24, 2020 1:38 pm

Igovernor wrote:
A Quiet Monkfish wrote:
Igovernor wrote:
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Latest figures show more and more younger people are getting Covid19 especially school children.


Average age of someone dying from covid -related illness in the UK is over 82 yrs old. If you thin that's young you must be f****ng Methusala. And no-one claimed kids didn't get it, just that they were very very unlikely to have symptoms.


No symptoms but can pass it on, get real :banghead:


Yes, we all know that but your post headline was "..affects all people." Barring isolated exceptions, it doesn't.

Re: So Covid is a hoax and only affects older people!!!

Thu Dec 24, 2020 2:01 pm

A Quiet Monkfish wrote:
Igovernor wrote:
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Latest figures show more and more younger people are getting Covid19 especially school children.


Average age of someone dying from covid -related illness in the UK is over 82 yrs old. If you thin that's young you must be f****ng Methusala. And no-one claimed kids didn't get it, just that they were very very unlikely to have symptoms.



we have become a nation of methusalas mate.... nobody wants to die...
the mad thing despite all the evidence being contrary is the methusalas think its only covid that can kill them.... survive covid = live forever..

Re: So Covid is a hoax and only affects older people!!!

Thu Dec 24, 2020 2:05 pm

Who wants to live forever...Great song from a great film.

Re: So Covid is a hoax and only affects older people!!!

Fri Dec 25, 2020 5:24 am

Great Advice this

https://youtube.com/watch?v=Ua3lCyJHHeU&feature=share