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State Pension- Covid 19

Mon Dec 21, 2020 2:07 pm

So with the majority of people dying in the UK presumably State pension age (RIP), where will the pension payouts go? Or is the government saving millions in the long run?

Re: State Pension- Covid 19

Mon Dec 21, 2020 2:42 pm

FOOTSOLDIER wrote:So with the majority of people dying in the UK presumably State pension age (RIP), where will the pension payouts go? Or is the government saving millions in the long run?



Towards the debt we are amassing :thumbup:

Re: State Pension- Covid 19

Mon Dec 21, 2020 3:27 pm

FOOTSOLDIER wrote:So with the majority of people dying in the UK presumably State pension age (RIP), where will the pension payouts go? Or is the government saving millions in the long run?



big scheme of things its a small amount... for every 250 people claiming state pension ...one has died...

Re: State Pension- Covid 19

Mon Dec 21, 2020 4:00 pm

skidemin wrote:
FOOTSOLDIER wrote:So with the majority of people dying in the UK presumably State pension age (RIP), where will the pension payouts go? Or is the government saving millions in the long run?



big scheme of things its a small amount... for every 250 people claiming state pension ...one has died...

My wife passed away aged 58 Big C.I will be honest and say what I got.£2000 lump sum based on her national ins contributions.
She had enough stamps for a full state pension.I get £5 pound a week top up on my state pension for her contrbutions.
They saved a fair amount there.
It goes without saying that the loss of a loved one stays with you for ever.Life can be a bitch.
Foot note.
The new covid variant is attacking young adults stay safe.
Last edited by stickywicket on Mon Dec 21, 2020 4:01 pm, edited 1 time in total.

Re: State Pension- Covid 19

Mon Dec 21, 2020 4:00 pm

skidemin wrote:
FOOTSOLDIER wrote:So with the majority of people dying in the UK presumably State pension age (RIP), where will the pension payouts go? Or is the government saving millions in the long run?



big scheme of things its a small amount... for every 250 people claiming state pension ...one has died...



died of corona that is... of course many many more die every year not of corona

Re: State Pension- Covid 19

Mon Dec 21, 2020 4:17 pm

I am 66 today now eligible for my stae pension :o :old:

Re: State Pension- Covid 19

Mon Dec 21, 2020 4:30 pm

Bluebina wrote:
FOOTSOLDIER wrote:So with the majority of people dying in the UK presumably State pension age (RIP), where will the pension payouts go? Or is the government saving millions in the long run?



Towards the debt we are amassing :thumbup:

Or towards the pensions of the mass of post-war born people now rapidly approaching OAP age?

Probably not though, as I believe this Government or the next will use Covid-19 as an excuse to further push top the initial qualifying age at some point

FOOTSOLDIER once again misses the larger point for the sake of a (weak) headline statement when we already know that the Government are going to struggle with Covid-19 debt for some years to come and any monies received will go into balancing the debt against the needs of the country in general

Does he seriously think the Government are (quote) "saving" money or redirecting it to other needy areas?

What would he have them do with it?

Or does he see it as the OAP 'cull' that some other 'Covid Conspiracists' do?

Re: State Pension- Covid 19

Mon Dec 21, 2020 4:33 pm

stickywicket wrote:
skidemin wrote:
FOOTSOLDIER wrote:So with the majority of people dying in the UK presumably State pension age (RIP), where will the pension payouts go? Or is the government saving millions in the long run?



big scheme of things its a small amount... for every 250 people claiming state pension ...one has died...

My wife passed away aged 58 Big C.I will be honest and say what I got.£2000 lump sum based on her national ins contributions.
She had enough stamps for a full state pension.I get £5 pound a week top up on my state pension for her contrbutions.
They saved a fair amount there.
It goes without saying that the loss of a loved one stays with you for ever.Life can be a bitch.
Foot note.
The new covid variant is attacking young adults stay safe.

My late wife the same age and with the same condition, fella :cry:

Pretty much the same projected pension-wise and although I'm not quite there yet, I expect the goalposts to be moved further away in the interim

Glad you got yours though and hope you get to enjoy :ayatollah:

Re: State Pension- Covid 19

Mon Dec 21, 2020 4:36 pm

stickywicket wrote:
skidemin wrote:
FOOTSOLDIER wrote:So with the majority of people dying in the UK presumably State pension age (RIP), where will the pension payouts go? Or is the government saving millions in the long run?



big scheme of things its a small amount... for every 250 people claiming state pension ...one has died...

My wife passed away aged 58 Big C.I will be honest and say what I got.£2000 lump sum based on her national ins contributions.
She had enough stamps for a full state pension.I get £5 pound a week top up on my state pension for her contrbutions.
They saved a fair amount there.
It goes without saying that the loss of a loved one stays with you for ever.Life can be a bitch.
Foot note.
The new covid variant is attacking young adults stay safe.



sorry to hear your wife died. 58 is no age ..
but im not young.. just fully aware i can die..but dont go around thinking is today the day......and certainly not going to over something thats actually 400 times less likely to kill me this year than other causes are ....... sorry that doesnt fit with me being as scared as the government want me to be, but maybe they should stop various departments releasing facts and stats ..that would really snooker those that can do simple maths...

Re: State Pension- Covid 19

Mon Dec 21, 2020 5:08 pm

[quote="kimble"]I am 66 today now eligible for my stae pension :o :old:[/quote

HAPPY BIRTHDAY BLUEBIRD!!

Re: State Pension- Covid 19

Mon Dec 21, 2020 5:09 pm

Sven wrote:
Bluebina wrote:
FOOTSOLDIER wrote:So with the majority of people dying in the UK presumably State pension age (RIP), where will the pension payouts go? Or is the government saving millions in the long run?



Towards the debt we are amassing :thumbup:

Or towards the pensions of the mass of post-war born people now rapidly approaching OAP age?

Probably not though, as I believe this Government or the next will use Covid-19 as an excuse to further push top the initial qualifying age at some point

FOOTSOLDIER once again misses the larger point for the sake of a (weak) headline statement when we already know that the Government are going to struggle with Covid-19 debt for some years to come and any monies received will go into balancing the debt against the needs of the country in general

Does he seriously think the Government are (quote) "saving" money or redirecting it to other needy areas?

What would he have them do with it?

Or does he see it as the OAP 'cull' that some other 'Covid Conspiracists' do?


I'm interested in people's thought's and the question will be raised at some point. Hopefully it gets invested into the NHS as a thankyou for the tremendous work they are doing. No conspiracy there.

Re: State Pension- Covid 19

Mon Dec 21, 2020 5:19 pm

FOOTSOLDIER wrote:
Sven wrote:
Bluebina wrote:
FOOTSOLDIER wrote:So with the majority of people dying in the UK presumably State pension age (RIP), where will the pension payouts go? Or is the government saving millions in the long run?



Towards the debt we are amassing :thumbup:

Or towards the pensions of the mass of post-war born people now rapidly approaching OAP age?

Probably not though, as I believe this Government or the next will use Covid-19 as an excuse to further push top the initial qualifying age at some point

FOOTSOLDIER once again misses the larger point for the sake of a (weak) headline statement when we already know that the Government are going to struggle with Covid-19 debt for some years to come and any monies received will go into balancing the debt against the needs of the country in general

Does he seriously think the Government are (quote) "saving" money or redirecting it to other needy areas?

What would he have them do with it?

Or does he see it as the OAP 'cull' that some other 'Covid Conspiracists' do?


I'm interested in people's thought's and the question will be raised at some point. Hopefully it gets invested into the NHS as a thankyou for the tremendous work they are doing. No conspiracy there.



the savings are not even 1%. so no its extremely unlikely to be an issue...13 million people claiming state pension and about 50k have died of covid this year..

Re: State Pension- Covid 19

Mon Dec 21, 2020 5:55 pm

Does bring it home though

Pay in roughly the same NI contributions and :-

1) live to 100 and get paid approx £200,000 in pension

2) Die at 65 and get zilch

Hardly the fairest system

Re: State Pension- Covid 19

Mon Dec 21, 2020 6:54 pm

FOOTSOLDIER wrote:
Sven wrote:
Bluebina wrote:
FOOTSOLDIER wrote:So with the majority of people dying in the UK presumably State pension age (RIP), where will the pension payouts go? Or is the government saving millions in the long run?



Towards the debt we are amassing :thumbup:

Or towards the pensions of the mass of post-war born people now rapidly approaching OAP age?

Probably not though, as I believe this Government or the next will use Covid-19 as an excuse to further push top the initial qualifying age at some point

FOOTSOLDIER once again misses the larger point for the sake of a (weak) headline statement when we already know that the Government are going to struggle with Covid-19 debt for some years to come and any monies received will go into balancing the debt against the needs of the country in general

Does he seriously think the Government are (quote) "saving" money or redirecting it to other needy areas?

What would he have them do with it?

Or does he see it as the OAP 'cull' that some other 'Covid Conspiracists' do?


I'm interested in people's thought's and the question will be raised at some point. Hopefully it gets invested into the NHS as a thankyou for the tremendous work they are doing. No conspiracy there.

Fair do's; but the money 'saved' isn't then automatically designated to any particular area and whilst I agree that the NHS are a current priority, when this is all over and some kind of normality is resumed, there will be many other areas/industries crying out for a piece of the same pie

100% praise the NHS but lots of other workers (other emergency and/or in the private/public sector) out there keeping the country going without too much praise at times. Let's spare a thought for them, too! :thumbright: :D

Re: State Pension- Covid 19

Mon Dec 21, 2020 7:56 pm

Sven wrote:
FOOTSOLDIER wrote:
Sven wrote:
Bluebina wrote:
FOOTSOLDIER wrote:So with the majority of people dying in the UK presumably State pension age (RIP), where will the pension payouts go? Or is the government saving millions in the long run?



Towards the debt we are amassing :thumbup:

Or towards the pensions of the mass of post-war born people now rapidly approaching OAP age?

Probably not though, as I believe this Government or the next will use Covid-19 as an excuse to further push top the initial qualifying age at some point

FOOTSOLDIER once again misses the larger point for the sake of a (weak) headline statement when we already know that the Government are going to struggle with Covid-19 debt for some years to come and any monies received will go into balancing the debt against the needs of the country in general

Does he seriously think the Government are (quote) "saving" money or redirecting it to other needy areas?

What would he have them do with it?

Or does he see it as the OAP 'cull' that some other 'Covid Conspiracists' do?


I'm interested in people's thought's and the question will be raised at some point. Hopefully it gets invested into the NHS as a thankyou for the tremendous work they are doing. No conspiracy there.

Fair do's; but the money 'saved' isn't then automatically designated to any particular area and whilst I agree that the NHS are a current priority, when this is all over and some kind of normality is resumed, there will be many other areas/industries crying out for a piece of the same pie

100% praise the NHS but lots of other workers (other emergency and/or in the private/public sector) out there keeping the country going without too much praise at times. Let's spare a thought for them, too! :thumbright: :D



pie ? the weekly saving on 50k basic pensions shared amongst our 7 million key workers equates to barely a £1 a week each ..

Re: State Pension- Covid 19

Mon Dec 21, 2020 9:01 pm

bluesince62 wrote:
kimble wrote:I am 66 today now eligible for my stae pension :o :old:[/quote

HAPPY BIRTHDAY BLUEBIRD!!

Happy birthday mate

Re: State Pension- Covid 19

Mon Dec 21, 2020 9:13 pm

kimble wrote:I am 66 today now eligible for my stae pension :o :old:



happy birthday.... :occasion6: :occasion9:

Re: State Pension- Covid 19

Mon Dec 21, 2020 9:16 pm

stickywicket wrote:
skidemin wrote:
FOOTSOLDIER wrote:So with the majority of people dying in the UK presumably State pension age (RIP), where will the pension payouts go? Or is the government saving millions in the long run?



big scheme of things its a small amount... for every 250 people claiming state pension ...one has died...

My wife passed away aged 58 Big C.I will be honest and say what I got.£2000 lump sum based on her national ins contributions.
She had enough stamps for a full state pension.I get £5 pound a week top up on my state pension for her contrbutions.
They saved a fair amount there.
It goes without saying that the loss of a loved one stays with you for ever.Life can be a bitch.
Foot note.
The new covid variant is attacking young adults stay safe.



How horrible, 58 is no age. Hope you’re ok and have family and friends around. If you’re ever lonely, drop me a message and keep safe!

Re: State Pension- Covid 19

Mon Dec 21, 2020 11:47 pm

103 Barmy Army wrote:
stickywicket wrote:
skidemin wrote:
FOOTSOLDIER wrote:So with the majority of people dying in the UK presumably State pension age (RIP), where will the pension payouts go? Or is the government saving millions in the long run?



big scheme of things its a small amount... for every 250 people claiming state pension ...one has died...

My wife passed away aged 58 Big C.I will be honest and say what I got.£2000 lump sum based on her national ins contributions.
She had enough stamps for a full state pension.I get £5 pound a week top up on my state pension for her contrbutions.
They saved a fair amount there.
It goes without saying that the loss of a loved one stays with you for ever.Life can be a bitch.
Foot note.
The new covid variant is attacking young adults stay safe.



How horrible, 58 is no age. Hope you’re ok and have family and friends around. If you’re ever lonely, drop me a message and keep safe!

Thanks for your lovely message. Yes I've got family.
Thanks again

Re: State Pension- Covid 19

Tue Dec 22, 2020 1:28 am

skidemin wrote:
Sven wrote:
FOOTSOLDIER wrote:
Sven wrote:
Bluebina wrote:
FOOTSOLDIER wrote:So with the majority of people dying in the UK presumably State pension age (RIP), where will the pension payouts go? Or is the government saving millions in the long run?



Towards the debt we are amassing :thumbup:

Or towards the pensions of the mass of post-war born people now rapidly approaching OAP age?

Probably not though, as I believe this Government or the next will use Covid-19 as an excuse to further push top the initial qualifying age at some point

FOOTSOLDIER once again misses the larger point for the sake of a (weak) headline statement when we already know that the Government are going to struggle with Covid-19 debt for some years to come and any monies received will go into balancing the debt against the needs of the country in general

Does he seriously think the Government are (quote) "saving" money or redirecting it to other needy areas?

What would he have them do with it?

Or does he see it as the OAP 'cull' that some other 'Covid Conspiracists' do?


I'm interested in people's thought's and the question will be raised at some point. Hopefully it gets invested into the NHS as a thankyou for the tremendous work they are doing. No conspiracy there.

Fair do's; but the money 'saved' isn't then automatically designated to any particular area and whilst I agree that the NHS are a current priority, when this is all over and some kind of normality is resumed, there will be many other areas/industries crying out for a piece of the same pie

100% praise the NHS but lots of other workers (other emergency and/or in the private/public sector) out there keeping the country going without too much praise at times. Let's spare a thought for them, too! :thumbright: :D



pie ? the weekly saving on 50k basic pensions shared amongst our 7 million key workers equates to barely a £1 a week each ..

I meant the whole financial 'pie' of what the UK has each year to divide between all sectors :thumbup:

Re: State Pension- Covid 19

Tue Dec 22, 2020 2:19 am

Sven wrote:
skidemin wrote:
Sven wrote:
FOOTSOLDIER wrote:
Sven wrote:
Bluebina wrote:
FOOTSOLDIER wrote:So with the majority of people dying in the UK presumably State pension age (RIP), where will the pension payouts go? Or is the government saving millions in the long run?



Towards the debt we are amassing :thumbup:

Or towards the pensions of the mass of post-war born people now rapidly approaching OAP age?

Probably not though, as I believe this Government or the next will use Covid-19 as an excuse to further push top the initial qualifying age at some point

FOOTSOLDIER once again misses the larger point for the sake of a (weak) headline statement when we already know that the Government are going to struggle with Covid-19 debt for some years to come and any monies received will go into balancing the debt against the needs of the country in general

Does he seriously think the Government are (quote) "saving" money or redirecting it to other needy areas?

What would he have them do with it?

Or does he see it as the OAP 'cull' that some other 'Covid Conspiracists' do?


I'm interested in people's thought's and the question will be raised at some point. Hopefully it gets invested into the NHS as a thankyou for the tremendous work they are doing. No conspiracy there.

Fair do's; but the money 'saved' isn't then automatically designated to any particular area and whilst I agree that the NHS are a current priority, when this is all over and some kind of normality is resumed, there will be many other areas/industries crying out for a piece of the same pie

100% praise the NHS but lots of other workers (other emergency and/or in the private/public sector) out there keeping the country going without too much praise at times. Let's spare a thought for them, too! :thumbright: :D



pie ? the weekly saving on 50k basic pensions shared amongst our 7 million key workers equates to barely a £1 a week each ..

I meant the whole financial 'pie' of what the UK has each year to divide between all sectors :thumbup:



:thumbup: thought it was a follow on from footsoldiers savings post...

Re: State Pension- Covid 19

Tue Dec 22, 2020 6:24 pm

oohahhPaulMillar wrote:Does bring it home though

Pay in roughly the same NI contributions and :-

1) live to 100 and get paid approx £200,000 in pension

2) Die at 65 and get zilch

Hardly the fairest system


How is not fair? The person who dies doesn’t need it.

If I pay for car insurance but don’t make a claim is that fair?