' BORIS THE CLOWN '

BORIS THE CLOWN

Late on lockdown

Late on face masks

Late on PPE

Late on final Xmas plans

Late on Brexit deal

etc etc

Costing lives beyond , for me Boris Johnson one of the worst ever PM'S.





The Govt’s 2020 coronavirus crisis results so far:

PPE - shambles.
Care homes - shambles.
Late lockdown - shambles.
Testing - shambles.
Face masks - shambles.
Quarantine - shambles.
Schools - shambles.
Xmas- shambles

BORIS THE CLOWN

Late on lockdown

Late on face masks

Late on PPE

Late on final Xmas plans

Late on Brexit deal

etc etc

Costing lives beyond , for me Boris Johnson one of the worst ever PM'S.





The Govt’s 2020 coronavirus crisis results so far:

PPE - shambles.
Care homes - shambles.
Late lockdown - shambles.
Testing - shambles.
Face masks - shambles.
Quarantine - shambles.
Schools - shambles.
Xmas- shambles

Plus shaking hands with everyone in May.

BORIS THE CLOWN

Late on lockdown

Late on face masks

Late on PPE

Late on final Xmas plans

Late on Brexit deal

etc etc

Costing lives beyond , for me Boris Johnson one of the worst ever PM'S.





The Govt’s 2020 coronavirus crisis results so far:

PPE - shambles.
Care homes - shambles.
Late lockdown - shambles.
Testing - shambles.
Face masks - shambles.
Quarantine - shambles.
Schools - shambles.
Xmas- shambles

These lot are a disgrace to anyone organising a shambles.

I've lost count of the things I've attempted to organise that have turned into an unmitigated disaster and a shambles.

BORIS THE CLOWN

Late on lockdown

Late on face masks

Late on PPE

Late on final Xmas plans

Late on Brexit deal

etc etc

Costing lives beyond , for me Boris Johnson one of the worst ever PM'S.





The Govt’s 2020 coronavirus crisis results so far:

PPE - shambles.
Care homes - shambles.
Late lockdown - shambles.
Testing - shambles.
Face masks - shambles.
Quarantine - shambles.
Schools - shambles.
Xmas- shambles

The man has no idea. So many, even on here blaming France etc for the shambles today. Hauliers are today carrying the can for Boris Johnson’s utter failure to plan for the worst-case scenario. He should have had plans in place for this scenario before announcing tier 4 on Saturday. That's how he operates, announcement and then thinks how will we do that.
This is a government in meltdown

BORIS THE CLOWN

Late on lockdown

Late on face masks

Late on PPE

Late on final Xmas plans

Late on Brexit deal

etc etc

Costing lives beyond , for me Boris Johnson one of the worst ever PM'S.





The Govt’s 2020 coronavirus crisis results so far:

PPE - shambles.
Care homes - shambles.
Late lockdown - shambles.
Testing - shambles.
Face masks - shambles.
Quarantine - shambles.
Schools - shambles.
Xmas- shambles

The man has no idea. So many, even on here blaming France etc for the shambles today. Hauliers are today carrying the can for Boris Johnson’s utter failure to plan for the worst-case scenario. He should have had plans in place for this scenario before announcing tier 4 on Saturday. That's how he operates, announcement and then thinks how will we do that.
This is a government in meltdown

Welsh labour locked us down for longer, and have fecked the economy, we are in a much worse state than England, few cases in Gogland and West Wales yet you will all be locked down with the rest of Wales for God knows how long

It's easy for Captain hindsight to say we could have done things differently after the event, but Wales is an example of how much worse things would have been

And if there was a vote tommorow they would still get in. Our Trump was the pub talk at the time.

Well these 2 pricks have shown how a liitle bit of leadership might have helped. However, I think Brexit will be a better deal under him than Teresa though.

Having said all that, any gov has had its hand full with covid and hindsight is a wonderful stick . We all need to play our part .

So hypocritical ,captain hindsight having a go when everything the labour leader has got drakeford to do has totally fooked Wales up

Not one political leader in the UK has come out of this well, and I include oppositions leaders across the UK in that.

Boris Johnson top of that list.

Should have delayed brexit for another couple of years mows not the time to have two major events going on. They messing them both up.

Should have delayed brexit for another couple of years mows not the time to have two major events going on. They messing them both up.

There's actually talk of a 'delay' in Brexit now but the UK side are saying 'No!'

Having said that, we've heard 'No!' before from the Boristas, so watch this space....

BORIS THE CLOWN

Late on lockdown

Late on face masks

Late on PPE

Late on final Xmas plans

Late on Brexit deal

etc etc

Costing lives beyond , for me Boris Johnson one of the worst ever PM'S.





The Govt’s 2020 coronavirus crisis results so far:

PPE - shambles.
Care homes - shambles.
Late lockdown - shambles.
Testing - shambles.
Face masks - shambles.
Quarantine - shambles.
Schools - shambles.
Xmas- shambles

The man has no idea. So many, even on here blaming France etc for the shambles today. Hauliers are today carrying the can for Boris Johnson’s utter failure to plan for the worst-case scenario. He should have had plans in place for this scenario before announcing tier 4 on Saturday. That's how he operates, announcement and then thinks how will we do that.
This is a government in meltdown

Welsh labour locked us down for longer, and have fecked the economy, we are in a much worse state than England, few cases in Gogland and West Wales yet you will all be locked down with the rest of Wales for God knows how long

It's easy for Captain hindsight to say we could have done things differently after the event, but Wales is an example of how much worse things would have been

Not sure where you get the idea Wales had a longer lock down. Most recently we had a 2 week lockdown, England had a 4 week lockdown. We originally went into lockdown on the same date back in March and restrictions were eased at similar rates across both countries except some places in England haven't once left lockdown, Leicester, Bradford, Coventry, etc.

Show me a town or City in Wales that has as harsh restrictions as some of the Midlands.

Point me to any economy in the world that hasn't been negatively impacted by Covid.

Check out the rates of any of the smaller towns and areas in tier 4 in England, some numbers are 700-800 per 100k whilst others are 200-300 per 100k.

We have a lower deaths per million rate than England and higher testing rates than England.

BORIS THE CLOWN

Late on lockdown

Late on face masks

Late on PPE

Late on final Xmas plans

Late on Brexit deal

etc etc

Costing lives beyond , for me Boris Johnson one of the worst ever PM'S.





The Govt’s 2020 coronavirus crisis results so far:

PPE - shambles.
Care homes - shambles.
Late lockdown - shambles.
Testing - shambles.
Face masks - shambles.
Quarantine - shambles.
Schools - shambles.
Xmas- shambles

The man has no idea. So many, even on here blaming France etc for the shambles today. Hauliers are today carrying the can for Boris Johnson’s utter failure to plan for the worst-case scenario. He should have had plans in place for this scenario before announcing tier 4 on Saturday. That's how he operates, announcement and then thinks how will we do that.
This is a government in meltdown

Welsh labour locked us down for longer, and have fecked the economy, we are in a much worse state than England, few cases in Gogland and West Wales yet you will all be locked down with the rest of Wales for God knows how long

It's easy for Captain hindsight to say we could have done things differently after the event, but Wales is an example of how much worse things would have been

Not sure where you get the idea Wales had a longer lock down. Most recently we had a 2 week lockdown, England had a 4 week lockdown. We originally went into lockdown on the same date back in March and restrictions were eased at similar rates across both countries except some places in England haven't once left lockdown, Leicester, Bradford, Coventry, etc.

Show me a town or City in Wales that has as harsh restrictions as some of the Midlands.

Point me to any economy in the world that hasn't been negatively impacted by Covid.

Check out the rates of any of the smaller towns and areas in tier 4 in England, some numbers are 700-800 per 100k whilst others are 200-300 per 100k.

We have a lower deaths per million rate than England and higher testing rates than England.

The original lockdown Dripford delayed ending it, restricted travel and took his time coming out in the spring when Covid had all but disappeared.

In Winter he tried to jump the gun with a firebreak but fecked up by giving it a two-week end date, everyone came out of lockdown and went mad and the rest is history, it's rife in South Wales and he will lock us down forever, as our health service is fecked with only 10 spare intensive care beds. December is a relatively quiet month normally classed as the calm before the storm, you wait until January and February we will have people being treated in the corridors and will be begging for English hospitals to bail us out!

What I want to know is,who in their right mind,knowing winter is a trying time for our hospitals under normal circumstances, why the f@ck were the field hospitals removed for??we gave a piss poor number of intensive care beds,why was nothing done to increase the capacity,knowing covid would take up a large percentage of beds?? I said it at the beginning, boris,dripford and crankie,have f@cked up royally,we are in this state because of their complete ineptitude in dealing with this from day 1 to today!!!!!

What I want to know is,who in their right mind,knowing winter is a trying time for our hospitals under normal circumstances, why the f@ck were the field hospitals removed for??we gave a piss poor number of intensive care beds,why was nothing done to increase the capacity,knowing covid would take up a large percentage of beds?? I said it at the beginning, boris,dripford and crankie,have f@cked up royally,we are in this state because of their complete ineptitude in dealing with this from day 1 to today!!!!!

Should have delayed brexit for another couple of years mows not the time to have two major events going on. They messing them both up.

There's actually talk of a 'delay' in Brexit now but the UK side are saying 'No!'

Having said that, we've heard 'No!' before from the Boristas, so watch this space....

Chris I want Brexit done deal or no deal but I have a feeling this virus mutation may well seem like Manna From Heaven for Boris. Mind you it's the EU putting up the deadlines and Macron making sure their not met. For France the EU is the gift that just keeps on giving.

I just hope Boris doesn't kick the can further down the road because of the virus.

In fairness he has had probably the hardest two years of any prime minister outside of Wartime.

He's in a no win situation whatever he does. Impossible job for even the best politician.

He has made mistakes he shouldn't have made but it's easy to say that in hindsight. There is not a government in Europe that has come out of this well and that says everything .

BORIS THE CLOWN

Late on lockdown

Late on face masks

Late on PPE

Late on final Xmas plans

Late on Brexit deal

etc etc

Costing lives beyond , for me Boris Johnson one of the worst ever PM'S.





The Govt’s 2020 coronavirus crisis results so far:

PPE - shambles.
Care homes - shambles.
Late lockdown - shambles.
Testing - shambles.
Face masks - shambles.
Quarantine - shambles.
Schools - shambles.
Xmas- shambles

The man has no idea. So many, even on here blaming France etc for the shambles today. Hauliers are today carrying the can for Boris Johnson’s utter failure to plan for the worst-case scenario. He should have had plans in place for this scenario before announcing tier 4 on Saturday. That's how he operates, announcement and then thinks how will we do that.
This is a government in meltdown

Welsh labour locked us down for longer, and have fecked the economy, we are in a much worse state than England, few cases in Gogland and West Wales yet you will all be locked down with the rest of Wales for God knows how long

It's easy for Captain hindsight to say we could have done things differently after the event, but Wales is an example of how much worse things would have been

Not sure where you get the idea Wales had a longer lock down. Most recently we had a 2 week lockdown, England had a 4 week lockdown. We originally went into lockdown on the same date back in March and restrictions were eased at similar rates across both countries except some places in England haven't once left lockdown, Leicester, Bradford, Coventry, etc.

Show me a town or City in Wales that has as harsh restrictions as some of the Midlands.

Point me to any economy in the world that hasn't been negatively impacted by Covid.

Check out the rates of any of the smaller towns and areas in tier 4 in England, some numbers are 700-800 per 100k whilst others are 200-300 per 100k.

We have a lower deaths per million rate than England and higher testing rates than England.

The original lockdown Dripford delayed ending it, restricted travel and took his time coming out in the spring when Covid had all but disappeared.

In Winter he tried to jump the gun with a firebreak but fecked up by giving it a two-week end date, everyone came out of lockdown and went mad and the rest is history, it's rife in South Wales and he will lock us down forever, as our health service is fecked with only 10 spare intensive care beds. December is a relatively quiet month normally classed as the calm before the storm, you wait until January and February we will have people being treated in the corridors and will be begging for English hospitals to bail us out!

This virus mutation is Manna From Heaven for Dripford and he didn't let the opportunity go by today. My silly named Firebreak did everything we intended it to do and it's this new virus mutation that is driving infections in Wales now. He really does have a brass neck even though his expert said that last week we had about 20 cases in South Wales with about half that number in North Wales, that represents about 0.002% of the new infections confirmed in Wales last week.

It's like Boris putting London in Tier 4 lockdown Manna From Heaven for Drippy who was itching to get high on another power trip.

In fairness he has had probably the hardest two years of any prime minister outside of Wartime.

He's in a no win situation whatever he does. Impossible job for even the best politician.

He has made mistakes he shouldn't have made but it's easy to say that in hindsight. There is not a government in Europe that has come out of this well and that says everything .

Yes have to agree there mate.

BORIS THE CLOWN

Late on lockdown

Late on face masks

Late on PPE

Late on final Xmas plans

Late on Brexit deal

etc etc

Costing lives beyond , for me Boris Johnson one of the worst ever PM'S.





The Govt’s 2020 coronavirus crisis results so far:

PPE - shambles.
Care homes - shambles.
Late lockdown - shambles.
Testing - shambles.
Face masks - shambles.
Quarantine - shambles.
Schools - shambles.
Xmas- shambles

The man has no idea. So many, even on here blaming France etc for the shambles today. Hauliers are today carrying the can for Boris Johnson’s utter failure to plan for the worst-case scenario. He should have had plans in place for this scenario before announcing tier 4 on Saturday. That's how he operates, announcement and then thinks how will we do that.
This is a government in meltdown

Welsh labour locked us down for longer, and have fecked the economy, we are in a much worse state than England, few cases in Gogland and West Wales yet you will all be locked down with the rest of Wales for God knows how long

It's easy for Captain hindsight to say we could have done things differently after the event, but Wales is an example of how much worse things would have been

Not sure where you get the idea Wales had a longer lock down. Most recently we had a 2 week lockdown, England had a 4 week lockdown. We originally went into lockdown on the same date back in March and restrictions were eased at similar rates across both countries except some places in England haven't once left lockdown, Leicester, Bradford, Coventry, etc.

Show me a town or City in Wales that has as harsh restrictions as some of the Midlands.

Point me to any economy in the world that hasn't been negatively impacted by Covid.

Check out the rates of any of the smaller towns and areas in tier 4 in England, some numbers are 700-800 per 100k whilst others are 200-300 per 100k.

We have a lower deaths per million rate than England and higher testing rates than England.

But we now all know that Wales NHS has not been counting the figures correctly. 1,000's missing off the data. Tests not registered or lost. Incompetence covered up by claims of a computer technical error.

In fairness he has had probably the hardest two years of any prime minister outside of Wartime.

He's in a no win situation whatever he does. Impossible job for even the best politician.

He has made mistakes he shouldn't have made but it's easy to say that in hindsight. There is not a government in Europe that has come out of this well and that says everything .

Tony Blair said that Boris Johnson has had the hardest job of any Prime Minister he has ever known. Boris also suffered badly from covid and apparently exhaustion and his weight (being fat) was a contributory factor in that.

BORIS THE CLOWN

Late on lockdown

Late on face masks

Late on PPE

Late on final Xmas plans

Late on Brexit deal

etc etc

Costing lives beyond , for me Boris Johnson one of the worst ever PM'S.





The Govt’s 2020 coronavirus crisis results so far:

PPE - shambles.
Care homes - shambles.
Late lockdown - shambles.
Testing - shambles.
Face masks - shambles.
Quarantine - shambles.
Schools - shambles.
Xmas- shambles

The man has no idea. So many, even on here blaming France etc for the shambles today. Hauliers are today carrying the can for Boris Johnson’s utter failure to plan for the worst-case scenario. He should have had plans in place for this scenario before announcing tier 4 on Saturday. That's how he operates, announcement and then thinks how will we do that.
This is a government in meltdown

Welsh labour locked us down for longer, and have fecked the economy, we are in a much worse state than England, few cases in Gogland and West Wales yet you will all be locked down with the rest of Wales for God knows how long

It's easy for Captain hindsight to say we could have done things differently after the event, but Wales is an example of how much worse things would have been

Not sure where you get the idea Wales had a longer lock down. Most recently we had a 2 week lockdown, England had a 4 week lockdown. We originally went into lockdown on the same date back in March and restrictions were eased at similar rates across both countries except some places in England haven't once left lockdown, Leicester, Bradford, Coventry, etc.

Show me a town or City in Wales that has as harsh restrictions as some of the Midlands.

Point me to any economy in the world that hasn't been negatively impacted by Covid.

Check out the rates of any of the smaller towns and areas in tier 4 in England, some numbers are 700-800 per 100k whilst others are 200-300 per 100k.

We have a lower deaths per million rate than England and higher testing rates than England.

The original lockdown Dripford delayed ending it, restricted travel and took his time coming out in the spring when Covid had all but disappeared.

In Winter he tried to jump the gun with a firebreak but fecked up by giving it a two-week end date, everyone came out of lockdown and went mad and the rest is history, it's rife in South Wales and he will lock us down forever, as our health service is fecked with only 10 spare intensive care beds. December is a relatively quiet month normally classed as the calm before the storm, you wait until January and February we will have people being treated in the corridors and will be begging for English hospitals to bail us out!

This virus mutation is Manna From Heaven for Dripford and he didn't let the opportunity go by today. My silly named Firebreak did everything we intended it to do and it's this new virus mutation that is driving infections in Wales now. He really does have a brass neck even though his expert said that last week we had about 20 cases in South Wales with about half that number in North Wales, that represents about 0.002% of the new infections confirmed in Wales last week.

It's like Boris putting London in Tier 4 lockdown Manna From Heaven for Drippy who was itching to get high on another power trip.

Your ignorance knows no bounds!
You need to get out more. I'm no fan of Drakeford or Welsh Labour, but haven't you noticed that thing have changed in Wales since March. While you are obviously a Westminster loving person, Wales on the whole think Drakeford is doing an excellent job and rate him far higher than Johnson in polls.
Simply because Wales has ploughed it's own successful furrow support for independence has shot up to 35% this is happening now in the big world outside this forum.

BORIS THE CLOWN

Late on lockdown

Late on face masks

Late on PPE

Late on final Xmas plans

Late on Brexit deal

etc etc

Costing lives beyond , for me Boris Johnson one of the worst ever PM'S.





The Govt’s 2020 coronavirus crisis results so far:

PPE - shambles.
Care homes - shambles.
Late lockdown - shambles.
Testing - shambles.
Face masks - shambles.
Quarantine - shambles.
Schools - shambles.
Xmas- shambles

The man has no idea. So many, even on here blaming France etc for the shambles today. Hauliers are today carrying the can for Boris Johnson’s utter failure to plan for the worst-case scenario. He should have had plans in place for this scenario before announcing tier 4 on Saturday. That's how he operates, announcement and then thinks how will we do that.
This is a government in meltdown

Welsh labour locked us down for longer, and have fecked the economy, we are in a much worse state than England, few cases in Gogland and West Wales yet you will all be locked down with the rest of Wales for God knows how long

It's easy for Captain hindsight to say we could have done things differently after the event, but Wales is an example of how much worse things would have been

Not sure where you get the idea Wales had a longer lock down. Most recently we had a 2 week lockdown, England had a 4 week lockdown. We originally went into lockdown on the same date back in March and restrictions were eased at similar rates across both countries except some places in England haven't once left lockdown, Leicester, Bradford, Coventry, etc.

Show me a town or City in Wales that has as harsh restrictions as some of the Midlands.

Point me to any economy in the world that hasn't been negatively impacted by Covid.

Check out the rates of any of the smaller towns and areas in tier 4 in England, some numbers are 700-800 per 100k whilst others are 200-300 per 100k.

We have a lower deaths per million rate than England and higher testing rates than England.

The original lockdown Dripford delayed ending it, restricted travel and took his time coming out in the spring when Covid had all but disappeared.

In Winter he tried to jump the gun with a firebreak but fecked up by giving it a two-week end date, everyone came out of lockdown and went mad and the rest is history, it's rife in South Wales and he will lock us down forever, as our health service is fecked with only 10 spare intensive care beds. December is a relatively quiet month normally classed as the calm before the storm, you wait until January and February we will have people being treated in the corridors and will be begging for English hospitals to bail us out!

This virus mutation is Manna From Heaven for Dripford and he didn't let the opportunity go by today. My silly named Firebreak did everything we intended it to do and it's this new virus mutation that is driving infections in Wales now. He really does have a brass neck even though his expert said that last week we had about 20 cases in South Wales with about half that number in North Wales, that represents about 0.002% of the new infections confirmed in Wales last week.

It's like Boris putting London in Tier 4 lockdown Manna From Heaven for Drippy who was itching to get high on another power trip.

Your ignorance knows no bounds!
You need to get out more. I'm no fan of Drakeford or Welsh Labour, but haven't you noticed that thing have changed in Wales since March. While you are obviously a Westminster loving person, Wales on the whole think Drakeford is doing an excellent job and rate him far higher than Johnson in polls.
Simply because Wales has ploughed it's own successful furrow support for independence has shot up to 35% this is happening now in the big world outside this forum.

Keep deluding yourself, while the rest of Wales shake their heads in disbelief.
In the real world there are probably more people against Welsh independence now than there were last year. The floating voters, and not really caring group, will definitely come out to vote against independence now because they can see the damage that people like Drakeford and Gethin running Wales will do.

Without Boris (and the Tories) providing PPE, testing facilities and now it seems hospital beds where would we be?
£5 billion given to Wales PLUS all the job retention, staff furlough payments and self employed grants.

Who provided the vaccine? It certainly wasn't the Welsh Assembly. Without Boris paying for it we would be without a vaccine like the rest of Europe.
Surveys by the BBC and Sky on a Welsh independence vote show between 7% and 8% in favour. How humiliating for the independence campaign. The 35% you quote is probably a vote done in your family covid bubble.

BORIS THE CLOWN

Late on lockdown

Late on face masks

Late on PPE

Late on final Xmas plans

Late on Brexit deal

etc etc

Costing lives beyond , for me Boris Johnson one of the worst ever PM'S.





The Govt’s 2020 coronavirus crisis results so far:

PPE - shambles.
Care homes - shambles.
Late lockdown - shambles.
Testing - shambles.
Face masks - shambles.
Quarantine - shambles.
Schools - shambles.
Xmas- shambles

The man has no idea. So many, even on here blaming France etc for the shambles today. Hauliers are today carrying the can for Boris Johnson’s utter failure to plan for the worst-case scenario. He should have had plans in place for this scenario before announcing tier 4 on Saturday. That's how he operates, announcement and then thinks how will we do that.
This is a government in meltdown

Welsh labour locked us down for longer, and have fecked the economy, we are in a much worse state than England, few cases in Gogland and West Wales yet you will all be locked down with the rest of Wales for God knows how long

It's easy for Captain hindsight to say we could have done things differently after the event, but Wales is an example of how much worse things would have been

Not sure where you get the idea Wales had a longer lock down. Most recently we had a 2 week lockdown, England had a 4 week lockdown. We originally went into lockdown on the same date back in March and restrictions were eased at similar rates across both countries except some places in England haven't once left lockdown, Leicester, Bradford, Coventry, etc.

Show me a town or City in Wales that has as harsh restrictions as some of the Midlands.

Point me to any economy in the world that hasn't been negatively impacted by Covid.

Check out the rates of any of the smaller towns and areas in tier 4 in England, some numbers are 700-800 per 100k whilst others are 200-300 per 100k.

We have a lower deaths per million rate than England and higher testing rates than England.

But we now all know that Wales NHS has not been counting the figures correctly. 1,000's missing off the data. Tests not registered or lost. Incompetence covered up by claims of a computer technical error.

And England ended up missing 10’s of thousands of cases in September because they ran out of rows on their Excel spreadsheet.
Our death rate, even with new added 11,000 cases, is still lower than England’s and our testing rates also remain higher.

And it wasn’t a computer technical error, they were performing system maintenance which created a backlog of tests that needed to be completed. Once those tests were completed the results were released.

BORIS THE CLOWN

Late on lockdown

Late on face masks

Late on PPE

Late on final Xmas plans

Late on Brexit deal

etc etc

Costing lives beyond , for me Boris Johnson one of the worst ever PM'S.





The Govt’s 2020 coronavirus crisis results so far:

PPE - shambles.
Care homes - shambles.
Late lockdown - shambles.
Testing - shambles.
Face masks - shambles.
Quarantine - shambles.
Schools - shambles.
Xmas- shambles

The man has no idea. So many, even on here blaming France etc for the shambles today. Hauliers are today carrying the can for Boris Johnson’s utter failure to plan for the worst-case scenario. He should have had plans in place for this scenario before announcing tier 4 on Saturday. That's how he operates, announcement and then thinks how will we do that.
This is a government in meltdown

Welsh labour locked us down for longer, and have fecked the economy, we are in a much worse state than England, few cases in Gogland and West Wales yet you will all be locked down with the rest of Wales for God knows how long

It's easy for Captain hindsight to say we could have done things differently after the event, but Wales is an example of how much worse things would have been

Not sure where you get the idea Wales had a longer lock down. Most recently we had a 2 week lockdown, England had a 4 week lockdown. We originally went into lockdown on the same date back in March and restrictions were eased at similar rates across both countries except some places in England haven't once left lockdown, Leicester, Bradford, Coventry, etc.

Show me a town or City in Wales that has as harsh restrictions as some of the Midlands.

Point me to any economy in the world that hasn't been negatively impacted by Covid.

Check out the rates of any of the smaller towns and areas in tier 4 in England, some numbers are 700-800 per 100k whilst others are 200-300 per 100k.

We have a lower deaths per million rate than England and higher testing rates than England.

The original lockdown Dripford delayed ending it, restricted travel and took his time coming out in the spring when Covid had all but disappeared.

In Winter he tried to jump the gun with a firebreak but fecked up by giving it a two-week end date, everyone came out of lockdown and went mad and the rest is history, it's rife in South Wales and he will lock us down forever, as our health service is fecked with only 10 spare intensive care beds. December is a relatively quiet month normally classed as the calm before the storm, you wait until January and February we will have people being treated in the corridors and will be begging for English hospitals to bail us out!

This virus mutation is Manna From Heaven for Dripford and he didn't let the opportunity go by today. My silly named Firebreak did everything we intended it to do and it's this new virus mutation that is driving infections in Wales now. He really does have a brass neck even though his expert said that last week we had about 20 cases in South Wales with about half that number in North Wales, that represents about 0.002% of the new infections confirmed in Wales last week.

It's like Boris putting London in Tier 4 lockdown Manna From Heaven for Drippy who was itching to get high on another power trip.

Your ignorance knows no bounds!
You need to get out more. I'm no fan of Drakeford or Welsh Labour, but haven't you noticed that thing have changed in Wales since March. While you are obviously a Westminster loving person, Wales on the whole think Drakeford is doing an excellent job and rate him far higher than Johnson in polls.
Simply because Wales has ploughed it's own successful furrow support for independence has shot up to 35% this is happening now in the big world outside this forum.

Keep deluding yourself, while the rest of Wales shake their heads in disbelief.
In the real world there are probably more people against Welsh independence now than there were last year. The floating voters, and not really caring group, will definitely come out to vote against independence now because they can see the damage that people like Drakeford and Gethin running Wales will do.

Without Boris (and the Tories) providing PPE, testing facilities and now it seems hospital beds where would we be?
£5 billion given to Wales PLUS all the job retention, staff furlough payments and self employed grants.

Who provided the vaccine? It certainly wasn't the Welsh Assembly. Without Boris paying for it we would be without a vaccine like the rest of Europe.
Surveys by the BBC and Sky on a Welsh independence vote show between 7% and 8% in favour. How humiliating for the independence campaign. The 35% you quote is probably a vote done in your family covid bubble.

I'm not sure where you get your information from but I'd seriously check your sources. Just to give you one example, back in March. Yes Cymru a non-party movement supporting independence had 2 500 members. Membership has now soared to almost 20 000. That is simply because people have had enough of the Westminster shit-show.
Mate, we pay our taxes and until we have the power to do so ourselves we will receive some of our money back from Westminster after they've taken our money to pay for vanity projects like HS2, Cross-rail, Westminster/Buckingham Palace make-up.
You mention PPE, the Senedd had an order for PPE qazumped by Westminster. We buy our own, we get nothing form Westminster
Furloug? As I said we pay our taxes. Vaccine? We buy our own, certainly don't get it via Westminster.
35%? Actually it was a YouGov poll only last month which recorded the highest percentage ever in support of independence.
Things are changing quickly, believe me!

BORIS THE CLOWN

Late on lockdown

Late on face masks

Late on PPE

Late on final Xmas plans

Late on Brexit deal

etc etc

Costing lives beyond , for me Boris Johnson one of the worst ever PM'S.





The Govt’s 2020 coronavirus crisis results so far:

PPE - shambles.
Care homes - shambles.
Late lockdown - shambles.
Testing - shambles.
Face masks - shambles.
Quarantine - shambles.
Schools - shambles.
Xmas- shambles

The man has no idea. So many, even on here blaming France etc for the shambles today. Hauliers are today carrying the can for Boris Johnson’s utter failure to plan for the worst-case scenario. He should have had plans in place for this scenario before announcing tier 4 on Saturday. That's how he operates, announcement and then thinks how will we do that.
This is a government in meltdown

Welsh labour locked us down for longer, and have fecked the economy, we are in a much worse state than England, few cases in Gogland and West Wales yet you will all be locked down with the rest of Wales for God knows how long

It's easy for Captain hindsight to say we could have done things differently after the event, but Wales is an example of how much worse things would have been

Not sure where you get the idea Wales had a longer lock down. Most recently we had a 2 week lockdown, England had a 4 week lockdown. We originally went into lockdown on the same date back in March and restrictions were eased at similar rates across both countries except some places in England haven't once left lockdown, Leicester, Bradford, Coventry, etc.

Show me a town or City in Wales that has as harsh restrictions as some of the Midlands.

Point me to any economy in the world that hasn't been negatively impacted by Covid.

Check out the rates of any of the smaller towns and areas in tier 4 in England, some numbers are 700-800 per 100k whilst others are 200-300 per 100k.

We have a lower deaths per million rate than England and higher testing rates than England.

But we now all know that Wales NHS has not been counting the figures correctly. 1,000's missing off the data. Tests not registered or lost. Incompetence covered up by claims of a computer technical error.

And England ended up missing 10’s of thousands of cases in September because they ran out of rows on their Excel spreadsheet.
Our death rate, even with new added 11,000 cases, is still lower than England’s and our testing rates also remain higher.

And it wasn’t a computer technical error, they were performing system maintenance which created a backlog of tests that needed to be completed. Once those tests were completed the results were released.

I remember that excel fiasco. Typical civil/public service dimwits. I see it all the time, with "we are computer experts" which really means "I play computer/Xbox games 4 hours a night." They get well paid jobs but are clueless, and can't be sacked.
Originally they stated technical errors then changed it to maintenance. It took days for the maintenance to be done, why? Surely that is planned for quiet times.

In March, Vaughan Gethin promised 8000 or 9000 tests a day would be undertaken by the Welsh NHS/PHW and it took almost 5 months to get to 3000. In the end we needed UK government money to provide a laboratory to get it up to about an average of 9000 today. The Welsh NHS/PHW would never have achieved the figure without UK government money.
Even now tests are being sent all over the UK to be carried out.

I don't know about England, but in Wales I do know that lots of tests are being lost, tests are taking up to 2 weeks in some cases to be carried out and people notified, and the tracing system is several weeks behind.
We all know this is a new phenomenon (throughout the world) and to set up testing and tracing systems that are efficient takes time and money, and virtually every country in the world is not performing efficiently. So please don't try to make out Wales is outperforming England when we are a much smaller population and would be no where without the UK governments money, supplies and expertise.

BORIS THE CLOWN

Late on lockdown

Late on face masks

Late on PPE

Late on final Xmas plans

Late on Brexit deal

etc etc

Costing lives beyond , for me Boris Johnson one of the worst ever PM'S.





The Govt’s 2020 coronavirus crisis results so far:

PPE - shambles.
Care homes - shambles.
Late lockdown - shambles.
Testing - shambles.
Face masks - shambles.
Quarantine - shambles.
Schools - shambles.
Xmas- shambles

The man has no idea. So many, even on here blaming France etc for the shambles today. Hauliers are today carrying the can for Boris Johnson’s utter failure to plan for the worst-case scenario. He should have had plans in place for this scenario before announcing tier 4 on Saturday. That's how he operates, announcement and then thinks how will we do that.
This is a government in meltdown

Welsh labour locked us down for longer, and have fecked the economy, we are in a much worse state than England, few cases in Gogland and West Wales yet you will all be locked down with the rest of Wales for God knows how long

It's easy for Captain hindsight to say we could have done things differently after the event, but Wales is an example of how much worse things would have been

Not sure where you get the idea Wales had a longer lock down. Most recently we had a 2 week lockdown, England had a 4 week lockdown. We originally went into lockdown on the same date back in March and restrictions were eased at similar rates across both countries except some places in England haven't once left lockdown, Leicester, Bradford, Coventry, etc.

Show me a town or City in Wales that has as harsh restrictions as some of the Midlands.

Point me to any economy in the world that hasn't been negatively impacted by Covid.

Check out the rates of any of the smaller towns and areas in tier 4 in England, some numbers are 700-800 per 100k whilst others are 200-300 per 100k.

We have a lower deaths per million rate than England and higher testing rates than England.

The original lockdown Dripford delayed ending it, restricted travel and took his time coming out in the spring when Covid had all but disappeared.

In Winter he tried to jump the gun with a firebreak but fecked up by giving it a two-week end date, everyone came out of lockdown and went mad and the rest is history, it's rife in South Wales and he will lock us down forever, as our health service is fecked with only 10 spare intensive care beds. December is a relatively quiet month normally classed as the calm before the storm, you wait until January and February we will have people being treated in the corridors and will be begging for English hospitals to bail us out!

This virus mutation is Manna From Heaven for Dripford and he didn't let the opportunity go by today. My silly named Firebreak did everything we intended it to do and it's this new virus mutation that is driving infections in Wales now. He really does have a brass neck even though his expert said that last week we had about 20 cases in South Wales with about half that number in North Wales, that represents about 0.002% of the new infections confirmed in Wales last week.

It's like Boris putting London in Tier 4 lockdown Manna From Heaven for Drippy who was itching to get high on another power trip.

Your ignorance knows no bounds!
You need to get out more. I'm no fan of Drakeford or Welsh Labour, but haven't you noticed that thing have changed in Wales since March. While you are obviously a Westminster loving person, Wales on the whole think Drakeford is doing an excellent job and rate him far higher than Johnson in polls.
Simply because Wales has ploughed it's own successful furrow support for independence has shot up to 35% this is happening now in the big world outside this forum.

Keep deluding yourself, while the rest of Wales shake their heads in disbelief.
In the real world there are probably more people against Welsh independence now than there were last year. The floating voters, and not really caring group, will definitely come out to vote against independence now because they can see the damage that people like Drakeford and Gethin running Wales will do.

Without Boris (and the Tories) providing PPE, testing facilities and now it seems hospital beds where would we be?
£5 billion given to Wales PLUS all the job retention, staff furlough payments and self employed grants.

Who provided the vaccine? It certainly wasn't the Welsh Assembly. Without Boris paying for it we would be without a vaccine like the rest of Europe.
Surveys by the BBC and Sky on a Welsh independence vote show between 7% and 8% in favour. How humiliating for the independence campaign. The 35% you quote is probably a vote done in your family covid bubble.

I'm not sure where you get your information from but I'd seriously check your sources. Just to give you one example, back in March. Yes Cymru a non-party movement supporting independence had 2 500 members. Membership has now soared to almost 20 000. That is simply because people have had enough of the Westminster shit-show.
Mate, we pay our taxes and until we have the power to do so ourselves we will receive some of our money back from Westminster after they've taken our money to pay for vanity projects like HS2, Cross-rail, Westminster/Buckingham Palace make-up.
You mention PPE, the Senedd had an order for PPE qazumped by Westminster. We buy our own, we get nothing form Westminster
Furloug? As I said we pay our taxes. Vaccine? We buy our own, certainly don't get it via Westminster.
35%? Actually it was a YouGov poll only last month which recorded the highest percentage ever in support of independence.
Things are changing quickly, believe me!

some of our money back..... its that sort of talk , just like the price you think you can charge for water etc that ensures youll not get independence.... is it you lot are really daft enough to believe these things or is it you have such a low opinion of welsh people you think they will just accept stupidity as the truth...

At the end of the day it's a virus and anybody who says they could have done better than any of the leaders is not being honest with themselves,the only people who got it right was the Chinese , everyone stayed in and were not allowed out no matter how long it took ,that's the way to fight it but unfortunately in the western world people won't obey the rules ,or moan like fook can't have it both ways

Bit rich calling starmer 'captain hindsight'. Shall we have a look back 5 days...
https://twitter.com/BBCPolitics/status/ ... 29442?s=19

Perhaps he should be called captain foresight as whenever he says anything at PMQs Boris says they won't do it and then a few days later does a complete 180 u turn.

At the end of the day it's a virus and anybody who says they could have done better than any of the leaders is not being honest with themselves,the only people who got it right was the Chinese , everyone stayed in and were not allowed out no matter how long it took ,that's the way to fight it but unfortunately in the western world people won't obey the rules ,or moan like fook can't have it both ways

is that really what happened in China ?
someone best tell the mayor of Wuhan...5 million left the city just prior to lockdown...
https://nypost.com/2020/01/27/five-mill ... r-reports/

i wouldnt believe anything they say...

BORIS THE CLOWN

Late on lockdown

Late on face masks

Late on PPE

Late on final Xmas plans

Late on Brexit deal

etc etc

Costing lives beyond , for me Boris Johnson one of the worst ever PM'S.





The Govt’s 2020 coronavirus crisis results so far:

PPE - shambles.
Care homes - shambles.
Late lockdown - shambles.
Testing - shambles.
Face masks - shambles.
Quarantine - shambles.
Schools - shambles.
Xmas- shambles

The man has no idea. So many, even on here blaming France etc for the shambles today. Hauliers are today carrying the can for Boris Johnson’s utter failure to plan for the worst-case scenario. He should have had plans in place for this scenario before announcing tier 4 on Saturday. That's how he operates, announcement and then thinks how will we do that.
This is a government in meltdown

Welsh labour locked us down for longer, and have fecked the economy, we are in a much worse state than England, few cases in Gogland and West Wales yet you will all be locked down with the rest of Wales for God knows how long

It's easy for Captain hindsight to say we could have done things differently after the event, but Wales is an example of how much worse things would have been

Not sure where you get the idea Wales had a longer lock down. Most recently we had a 2 week lockdown, England had a 4 week lockdown. We originally went into lockdown on the same date back in March and restrictions were eased at similar rates across both countries except some places in England haven't once left lockdown, Leicester, Bradford, Coventry, etc.

Show me a town or City in Wales that has as harsh restrictions as some of the Midlands.

Point me to any economy in the world that hasn't been negatively impacted by Covid.

Check out the rates of any of the smaller towns and areas in tier 4 in England, some numbers are 700-800 per 100k whilst others are 200-300 per 100k.

We have a lower deaths per million rate than England and higher testing rates than England.

But we now all know that Wales NHS has not been counting the figures correctly. 1,000's missing off the data. Tests not registered or lost. Incompetence covered up by claims of a computer technical error.

And England ended up missing 10’s of thousands of cases in September because they ran out of rows on their Excel spreadsheet.
Our death rate, even with new added 11,000 cases, is still lower than England’s and our testing rates also remain higher.

And it wasn’t a computer technical error, they were performing system maintenance which created a backlog of tests that needed to be completed. Once those tests were completed the results were released.

I remember that excel fiasco. Typical civil/public service dimwits. I see it all the time, with "we are computer experts" which really means "I play computer/Xbox games 4 hours a night." They get well paid jobs but are clueless, and can't be sacked.
Originally they stated technical errors then changed it to maintenance. It took days for the maintenance to be done, why? Surely that is planned for quiet times.

In March, Vaughan Gethin promised 8000 or 9000 tests a day would be undertaken by the Welsh NHS/PHW and it took almost 5 months to get to 3000. In the end we needed UK government money to provide a laboratory to get it up to about an average of 9000 today. The Welsh NHS/PHW would never have achieved the figure without UK government money.
Even now tests are being sent all over the UK to be carried out.

I don't know about England, but in Wales I do know that lots of tests are being lost, tests are taking up to 2 weeks in some cases to be carried out and people notified, and the tracing system is several weeks behind.
We all know this is a new phenomenon (throughout the world) and to set up testing and tracing systems that are efficient takes time and money, and virtually every country in the world is not performing efficiently. So please don't try to make out Wales is outperforming England when we are a much smaller population and would be no where without the UK governments money, supplies and expertise.

Bullshit. In March the Senedd had ordered 5000 tests a day by the Roche company in Germany. The order was gazumped by the Westminster government who offered Roche more money simply because they had not ordered any tests at the time and were playing catch up. Get your facts right mate.