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“ Well 3 Games to Go “

Sun Dec 20, 2020 12:00 am

According to CCFC Chairman Dalman Cardiff City Manager will have 3 games to go ,to get Cardiff City in the Top 6 by January or it’s goodbye.

Personally I don’t see the point in sacking Neil Harris, with a very very tight budget Harris has done ok, not fantastic, not brilliant but ok.

Why sack him?

There are not that many better managers out there who can do much better under this board and very tight budget so for me Harris may as well finish this season as I can’t see the board getting a better manager as he would want a good budget and I don’t see that becoming available.

Will they replace Harris with anyone better? personally I believe they would not, so lets see out this season.


I do hope if they decide to keep Harris he is allowed to bring in a few more players come January as the squad for me is way to small.

Updated:

4pts of top 6 , 3 games to go for Neil Harris.

We can in my opinion make top 6 in January and in May if Harris is backed, Top 2 No.



Sat Dec 26 CARDIFF CITY v BRENTFORD


Tue Dec 29 Wycombe Wanderers A


Sat Jan 02 Rotherham United A
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Re: “ Well 3 Games to Go “

Sun Dec 20, 2020 12:01 am

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Re: “ Well 3 Games to Go “

Sun Dec 20, 2020 12:03 am

Neil Warnocks side BORO are Top 6.

Brum 1 Boro 4

Re: “ Well 3 Games to Go “

Sun Dec 20, 2020 5:16 pm

We will need to win all 3 games to stand a chance of a top 6 position after that deadline.

Re: “ Well 3 Games to Go “

Sun Dec 20, 2020 7:37 pm

If we are going to get rid of Harris we should have a replacement lined up who is definitely better than him and is willing to come to the club. It is not obvious who that is. There a few out there that might be better than Harris but no one really who definately is and would come to us.

Re: “ Well 3 Games to Go “

Sun Dec 20, 2020 8:04 pm

7 points from the 3 games is a good turnaround and top six or not he should then keep his job.

Re: “ Well 3 Games to Go “

Sun Dec 20, 2020 9:25 pm

I don't think Harris is going to get the team promoted. Hes not a big game winner. That said, sacking him mid-season is a huge gamble and unless there is big investment planned I dont see the point. I think he can squeeze the team into the play offs lottery if our injury list is kind and we improve the centre of midfield. If we dont make it, I am happy to be a stable Championship club for another year. Big names like Pullis and Hughton do not always guarantee success either. Be careful what you wish for.

Re: “ Well 3 Games to Go “

Mon Dec 21, 2020 12:20 am

Bakedalasker wrote:We will need to win all 3 games to stand a chance of a top 6 position after that deadline.



i doubt we will be top 6..... and providing he gets 5 or 6 points i doubt he will be sacked either

Re: “ Well 3 Games to Go “

Mon Dec 21, 2020 12:32 am

Forever Blue wrote:According to CCFC Chairman Dalman Cardiff City Manager will have 3 games to go ,to get Cardiff City in the Top 6 by January or it’s goodbye.

Personally I don’t see the point in sacking Neil Harris, with a very very tight budget Harris has done ok, not fantastic, not brilliant but ok.

Why sack him?

There are not that many better managers out there who can do much better under this board and very tight budget so for me Harris may as well finish this season as I can’t see the board getting a better manager as he would want a good budget and I don’t see that becoming available.

Will they replace Harris with anyone better? personally I believe they would not, so lets see out this season.


I do hope if they decide to keep Harris he is allowed to bring in a few more players come January as the squad for me is way to small.

Updated:

4pts of top 6 , 3 games to go for Neil Harris.

We can in my opinion make top 6 in January and in May if Harris is backed, Top 2 No.



Sat Dec 26 CARDIFF CITY v BRENTFORD


Tue Dec 29 Wycombe Wanderers A


Sat Jan 02 Rotherham United A


Again kudos to you Annis, and I'm in agreement, no point sacking him at present,give him some backing if we are within touching distance come Jan, not necessarily top six,but say within 3/4 points. :old: :bluebird:

Re: “ Well 3 Games to Go “

Mon Dec 21, 2020 7:20 am

bluesince62 wrote:
Forever Blue wrote:According to CCFC Chairman Dalman Cardiff City Manager will have 3 games to go ,to get Cardiff City in the Top 6 by January or it’s goodbye.

Personally I don’t see the point in sacking Neil Harris, with a very very tight budget Harris has done ok, not fantastic, not brilliant but ok.

Why sack him?

There are not that many better managers out there who can do much better under this board and very tight budget so for me Harris may as well finish this season as I can’t see the board getting a better manager as he would want a good budget and I don’t see that becoming available.

Will they replace Harris with anyone better? personally I believe they would not, so lets see out this season.


I do hope if they decide to keep Harris he is allowed to bring in a few more players come January as the squad for me is way to small.

Updated:

4pts of top 6 , 3 games to go for Neil Harris.

We can in my opinion make top 6 in January and in May if Harris is backed, Top 2 No.



Sat Dec 26 CARDIFF CITY v BRENTFORD


Tue Dec 29 Wycombe Wanderers A


Sat Jan 02 Rotherham United A


Again kudos to you Annis, and I'm in agreement, no point sacking him at present,give him some backing if we are within touching distance come Jan, not necessarily top six,but say within 3/4 points. :old: :bluebird:


Exactly Paul, if they keep Harris and i cant see them sacking him, then they have to back him, as we both say, no point sacking Harris at the moment :thumbright: :thumbright: :bluebird: :bluebird:

Re: “ Well 3 Games to Go “

Mon Dec 21, 2020 9:09 am

#what do you win for being 6th in January ?

Re: “ Well 3 Games to Go “

Mon Dec 21, 2020 9:29 am

A Quiet Monkfish wrote:#what do you win for being 6th in January ?


Nothing, but just repeating Our Chairmans Dalmans words :bluebird:

Re: “ Well 3 Games to Go “

Mon Dec 21, 2020 9:33 am

For me one of the key issues is whether there are other better and most importantly, available, options.

I'm struggling to think of anyone realistic available other than Nigel Pearson and I'm not sure we could afford him.

I'd love Bellamy to come in but he's in a job and are we that attractive to people like him at the moment ?

I like Harris but I just don't think that tactically he's up to it. I don't really see it changing now unless they are really going to push the boat out and I don't think there are any clubs in Championship willing to take that risk right now.

Re: “ Well 3 Games to Go “

Mon Dec 21, 2020 11:37 am

I agree there is no point in sacking him. The Championship is even tighter than usual this year with only Norwich looking certain to be good enough to go up. A little bit of sensible backing ( another right back especially) and we can still make top 6.

Re: “ Well 3 Games to Go “

Mon Dec 21, 2020 3:56 pm

Doesn’t matter whose in charge....this squad won’t get us top 6 with the injuries so the board will have to invest ....and quality doesn’t come cheap .
We are playing catch up after a poor start at a time the players are looking tired etc so next 3 games will be key for us

Re: “ Well 3 Games to Go “

Tue Dec 22, 2020 7:45 am

The loss of the parachute payments next season makes this season even more important. Assuming we don't get promoted this season then further much larger cutbacks are going to be needed next season and the question is whether Harris will then be the man to cope with potentially a weakened squad.

Usually relegated teams who get promoted again do so in the first couple of seasons after relegation or they can enter a spiral of failure which sees Sunderland and Portsmouth where they are now. In recent times clubs the size of Forest, Leeds and even Man City spent time in the old third division.

I worry that after this season our ambitions will become more about survival in this division rather than promotion out of it.

Re: “ Well 3 Games to Go “

Tue Dec 22, 2020 9:57 am

davids wrote:The loss of the parachute payments next season makes this season even more important. Assuming we don't get promoted this season then further much larger cutbacks are going to be needed next season and the question is whether Harris will then be the man to cope with potentially a weakened squad.

Usually relegated teams who get promoted again do so in the first couple of seasons after relegation or they can enter a spiral of failure which sees Sunderland and Portsmouth where they are now. In recent times clubs the size of Forest, Leeds and even Man City spent time in the old third division.

I worry that after this season our ambitions will become more about survival in this division rather than promotion out of it.


I've always believed the board aren't stupid enough to think promotion with this - or an improved squad - would bring anything other than immediate relegation. What it would bring however, is another cycle of parachute payments which could support a more long-term strategy.

Re: “ Well 3 Games to Go “

Tue Dec 22, 2020 10:42 am

Did he say he would be sacked if not top 6? He said they would be very disappointed but nowhere it says sacked.

https://www,google.co.uk/amp/s/www.bbc. ... l/32438292

Re: “ Well 3 Games to Go “

Tue Dec 22, 2020 3:06 pm

A Quiet Monkfish wrote:
davids wrote:The loss of the parachute payments next season makes this season even more important. Assuming we don't get promoted this season then further much larger cutbacks are going to be needed next season and the question is whether Harris will then be the man to cope with potentially a weakened squad.

Usually relegated teams who get promoted again do so in the first couple of seasons after relegation or they can enter a spiral of failure which sees Sunderland and Portsmouth where they are now. In recent times clubs the size of Forest, Leeds and even Man City spent time in the old third division.

I worry that after this season our ambitions will become more about survival in this division rather than promotion out of it.


I've always believed the board aren't stupid enough to think promotion with this - or an improved squad - would bring anything other than immediate relegation. What it would bring however, is another cycle of parachute payments which could support a more long-term strategy.


You are probably right.

But you never know.

We have been promoted twice now. First time we were the sixth biggest spenders in the premier league, second time we were amongst the lowest. Both times relegated. Second time we made more of a go of it which is a testimony to the manager I think.

Re: “ Well 3 Games to Go “

Tue Dec 22, 2020 4:51 pm

maccydee wrote:Did he say he would be sacked if not top 6? He said they would be very disappointed but nowhere it says sacked.

https://www,google.co.uk/amp/s/www.bbc. ... l/32438292

Neil, I'm not aware of Dalman stating Neil Harris is put on his ear, if we are not in the top six by Christmas. If we are not far away after the start to this season, Why would he (be sacked)?

What I am aware of is that Daman and (I believe) Tan were ready to push the button a few weeks ago with Ken Choo being the only one to support the manager

I am currently of the mind that Neil Harris should stay for the season and I agree with Forever Blue (and I think you) that to change at this point would be pointless. The manager seems to have got the team performing of late and two poor results in seven are not really grounds for divorce quite yet

As grinding as our style can be, we should all get behind Harris and the team until it is clear we cannot challenge this season