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worcester_ccfc wrote:We were very poor again and the better team won.
Another bad performance and Neil Harris yet again didn't seem to know what he was doing.
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pembroke allan wrote:Agree about top 2 for us but definitely top 6 possible they were by far the better team but expected that as got two or three top quality players who made difference... we played to our strengths and on another day could have had couple of goals.... but this habit of letting players run at our defence is costing us badly as today showed again? Badly need bacuna back in midfield again today looked out sorts in defence and clearly not happy there.
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Sat Dec 19, 2020 2:46 pm
Forever Blue wrote:pembroke allan wrote:Agree about top 2 for us but definitely top 6 possible they were by far the better team but expected that as got two or three top quality players who made difference... we played to our strengths and on another day could have had couple of goals.... but this habit of letting players run at our defence is costing us badly as today showed again? Badly need bacuna back in midfield again today looked out sorts in defence and clearly not happy there.
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But today we were never in it .
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moonboots wrote:Problems everywhere, but the total lack of creativity in midfield is what kills us each time, particularly when we are up against the best teams who like to pass and move.
Today their midfield and forward line was full of pace, movement and skill, while ours was fairly static and predictable.
I've been a supporter of Harris, mainly based on his record last season, but anyone who sets up with a midfield trio of Ralls, Pack and Vaulks is asking for trouble. Perhaps on paper it looks reasonably solid, but when you go a goal down, I think that everyone deep down knows there's no way back against the better teams.
On top of that Moore is a big miss for us, as Glatzel offers very little.
Having said all that we had enough good balls into the box from free kicks and corners to have got something from the game, but do we really want to rely upon set plays all the time?
Norwich were a bit vulnerable today on our set plays and I feel that another aerial threat, such that Benkovic offers, may have been too much for them, as without Moore they only had to take care of Mozza. But Harris makes very few changes, and when he does they are the same predictable changes.
I really don't think we are going anywhere this season, so for me I'd rather change the manager now, before the transfer window, for a more progressive man who can bring a lot more creativity to our team, as I fear that even if we were to scrape into the playoffs it wouldn't end well for us.
Sat Dec 19, 2020 4:43 pm
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castleblue wrote:I agree that the best team won but for me we made it easy for them. Their first goal could have been stopped if Pack had taken one for the team by taking Buendia out 30 yards from goal, nothing nasty just a shirt pull or trip but he just let him run, terrible defending from our defensive midfielder. Add to the Nelson not coming out to challenge a player approaching the edge of our penalty area, that is the 3rd time this week and Swansea, Birmingham and Norwich have all scored from this issue. Morrison is doing his best but he needs a partner who will support him.
NH deciding to play Ralls up alongside Glatzel just doesn't work and isolating Wilson out on the right well I'm sorry without Tomlin we have play Wilson in the number 10 role.
For me both their goals were preventable and in fairness to NH I thought we set up to play against a team who just pass you to death really well. On another day Morrison could have had at least a couple of goals. Norwich have superior quality with player who have better technical ability than us but we made them work for those points I'm just disappointed we didn't make it harder for them.
When we finished 2nd a few years ago we had a steely determination about us and at times dogged out results I just don't see that steel in this team.
After 5 wins in 7 we are not out of this and sort our midfield out, get a cb pairing that works and find that steel and who knows.
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Sat Dec 19, 2020 6:42 pm
Sven wrote:castleblue wrote:I agree that the best team won but for me we made it easy for them. Their first goal could have been stopped if Pack had taken one for the team by taking Buendia out 30 yards from goal, nothing nasty just a shirt pull or trip but he just let him run, terrible defending from our defensive midfielder. Add to the Nelson not coming out to challenge a player approaching the edge of our penalty area, that is the 3rd time this week and Swansea, Birmingham and Norwich have all scored from this issue. Morrison is doing his best but he needs a partner who will support him.
NH deciding to play Ralls up alongside Glatzel just doesn't work and isolating Wilson out on the right well I'm sorry without Tomlin we have play Wilson in the number 10 role.
For me both their goals were preventable and in fairness to NH I thought we set up to play against a team who just pass you to death really well. On another day Morrison could have had at least a couple of goals. Norwich have superior quality with player who have better technical ability than us but we made them work for those points I'm just disappointed we didn't make it harder for them.
When we finished 2nd a few years ago we had a steely determination about us and at times dogged out results I just don't see that steel in this team.
After 5 wins in 7 we are not out of this and sort our midfield out, get a cb pairing that works and find that steel and who knows.
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Not recognising/playing to Harry Wilson's strengths will be play a major part in Neil Harris' eventual downfall
As you say, it's clear to everyone but the man who makes the final decision
As I said, we need a couple of smart additions and that may well include a more imaginative manager, who can get the best out of this decent, if not short in real numbers, squad of players
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Forever Blue wrote:The truth is the best team won today and Norwich had far more quality in their team we did.
I honestly don’t blame Harris or the players today as they were just simply outplayed.
Sun Dec 20, 2020 2:50 am
mmoonboots wrote:Problems everywhere, but the total lack of creativity in midfield is what kills us each time, particularly when we are up against the best teams who like to pass and move.
Today their midfield and forward line was full of pace, movement and skill, while ours was fairly static and predictable.
I've been a supporter of Harris, mainly based on his record last season, but anyone who sets up with a midfield trio of Ralls, Pack and Vaulks is asking for trouble. Perhaps on paper it looks reasonably solid, but when you go a goal down, I think that everyone deep down knows there's no way back against the better teams.
On top of that Moore is a big miss for us, as Glatzel offers very little.
Having said all that we had enough good balls into the box from free kicks and corners to have got something from the game, but do we really want to rely upon set plays all the time?
Norwich were a bit vulnerable today on our set plays and I feel that another aerial threat, such that Benkovic offers, may have been too much for them, as without Moore they only had to take care of Mozza. But Harris makes very few changes, and when he does they are the same predictable changes.
I really don't think we are going anywhere this season, so for me I'd rather change the manager now, before the transfer window, for a more progressive man who can bring a lot more creativity to our team, as I fear that even if we were to scrape into the playoffs it wouldn't end well for us.