Well done wales

Why? Answer in the mirror???

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Why? Answer in the mirror???

im sure the prophet lagoon told us ..just follow the rules..inquest later..

just keep your windows open so the covid can get out

Well Done Drakeford Labour leader First Minister and more clueless than Boris and that takes a lot of doing.

Cardiff should be top of this league , Harris out,lol,lol.

Stay safe everyone.

Posting such a solitary set of numbers is pointless as there's too many variables.
How does our testing capacity compare to the rest of the UK?
How does the testing capacity of each of these places compare to each other and the rest of the UK?
Wales came out of a lockdown 2 weeks before England, so how do the case numbers in these 20 places 2 weeks ago compare with the UK numbers today?
How will the case numbers in England in 2 weeks time compare with these current numbers?
Etc, etc.

A kid in high school can tell you that for any statistical and scientific comparisons to be sensibly analysed you want to remove as many variables as possible.

Posting such a solitary set of numbers is pointless as there's too many variables.
How does our testing capacity compare to the rest of the UK?
How does the testing capacity of each of these places compare to each other and the rest of the UK?
Wales came out of a lockdown 2 weeks before England, so how do the case numbers in these 20 places 2 weeks ago compare with the UK numbers today?
How will the case numbers in England in 2 weeks time compare with these current numbers?
Etc, etc.

A kid in high school can tell you that for any statistical and scientific comparisons to be sensibly analysed you want to remove as many variables as possible.

thing is if we had very low numbers it would be getting lots of mentions....?

but stay home stay safe and open them windows to leave the cat out...erm i mean leave the covid out....

Posting such a solitary set of numbers is pointless as there's too many variables.
How does our testing capacity compare to the rest of the UK?
How does the testing capacity of each of these places compare to each other and the rest of the UK?
Wales came out of a lockdown 2 weeks before England, so how do the case numbers in these 20 places 2 weeks ago compare with the UK numbers today?
How will the case numbers in England in 2 weeks time compare with these current numbers?
Etc, etc.

A kid in high school can tell you that for any statistical and scientific comparisons to be sensibly analysed you want to remove as many variables as possible.

The variable that you omitted in your post was the most important one.- What percentage of COVID tests are coming back positive? This makes all the other variables included in your post redundant.
The positivity rate differentiates between large numbers of cases due to high levels of testing, from large numbers due to high levels of community transmission. The more community transmission - the higher the COVID positivity rate. The WHO gets concerned when the positivity rate is above 5%: for comparison, in Merthyr it is just under 30%. That represents very high levels of community transmission.

I am afraid you are both wrong, and misleading in your post.

Faced with this scenario, there are two options available: first, increase the number of tests available in order to track and isolate infections; however, this depends highly on firstly, the cooperation of the population to come forward, and then isolate until they have either had a negative test, or until they have completed the required 10 days should the test be positive; secondly, and the ability of the track ad trace system to cope with the volume of tests. When the number of cases get high enough, any track and trace system will fall over.



Before you all get up in arms about track and trace, have a look at this article.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/stories-55280321

The brutal reality is that the only other measures we have, are socially distancing measures. Whatever the measures are at present they are not working. I agree with the first poster in this thread: we all have to look at ourselves in the mirror and ask the question: “Am I behaving responsibly enough and following the government’s rules, even though they are painful?”

Sadly when you look at the news headlines, for example, pubs being closed in Merthyr for failing to follow lockdown rules it may well be that too many people are not.The brutal reality is, that in a public health situation, our behaviour does not just affect us, but also the lives of others in our communities as well as local businesses; whether we wish to acknowledge that or not. Careless behaviour costs lives; both directly, due to COVID deaths, and indirectly due to other diseases that an overwhelmed Health Service is no longer able to effectively manage.

The bottom line is that there is an awful lot of difference that we can make for the overall good of our fellow citizens in helping curb the spread of COVID, just by following Government guidelines. They are unpleasant, but necessary if we are going to get on top of things.


Unfortunately, I see another lockdown coming and very soon too. Regrettably I see no other way out as things stand.
- The headline figures say what they say - we are in a mess.
How the figures in England compare to ours in two weeks time we will have to see.

I'd be the first to criticize labour Welsh government but politics should be left out of this can't keep on political points scoring that's how Wales is on this mess ,all work together ,it's a virus ffs ,look at Denmark , Germany ,Spain , Italy all going into lockdowns

We are where England was couple weeks ago where Germany ect are now! Plus mass testing and extra testing in unis are bumping up positive results.... bad as they are it's what it is at least deaths are decreasing to be positive.

And as our numbers come down other parts of the country will go up. That's how it works. In all honesty the rise and fall of the virus has more to do with the actions of people than governments. I know of loads of people who are not sticking to the rules. Indeed, people on here boasted how they were not going to stick to the 5 mile rule when that was in. We're not living in a police state and we don't have enough law enforcement or available places in prison if the government did take a hard line. So what can any government do? Wales was always going to be hit hard as the virus affects the elderly, the sick and the poor. Unfortunately we top the league in all these areas so we were always the most vulnerable of the home nations.
It's the nature of people to complain. When Drakeford was tightening the rules people were complaining about their freedoms and the economy being badly affected and when he relaxed them a bit more than in Scotland and large parts of England we end up with high levels of virus circulating in our communities. He can't really win.....and I'm not a Drakeford fan.
Someone said to me last week that there is one main reason that the virus is so bad....the stupidity of people! It's difficult to argue against that tbh.

Is it people just mixing, the youth not giv a f.. or hospatality??

Whats the solution? Vaccine I guess?? I'll wait till next year myself.

We all criticize the nanny state so perhaps they'll say to people to use your desecration in these difficult times.

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Is it people just mixing, the youth not giv a f.. or hospatality??

Whats the solution? Vaccine I guess?? I'll wait till next year myself.

We all criticize the nanny state so perhaps they'll say to people to use your desecration in these difficult times.

On a serious level, it's about social responsibility and good Governmental guidance; and currently we don't really have either at the levels it needs to be

We hope and pray that the vaccine helps the cause but that (for most) is still some way off and now (or Christmas in my view but others may disagree) is not the time to make things worse by thinking it's all over or taking the proverbial foot off the pedal...

How can nine, yes nine, staff be infected? Not following the rules or the rules not working? Either way we are a joke.


https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-wales-sou ... s-55324640

Is it people just mixing, the youth not giv a f.. or hospatality??

Whats the solution? Vaccine I guess?? I'll wait till next year myself.

We all criticize the nanny state so perhaps they'll say to people to use your desecration in these difficult times.

its so much easier to blame the youth and naughty people.... in reality its a virus and spreads where you would expect a virus to spread...

Stay safe everyone.