“ Have you calmed down? “

City fans have you calmed down?

How do you still feel?

Have you calmed down after the dire and lifeless performance in our Derby game where the Jacks outplayed us for 90mins.

Well I have not and want the manager, staff, committee, owner and players who many read this understand that it hurts us fans.

Words mean nothing from the players or manager , what now counts is what happens in the pitch starting with BRUM at home tomorrow night and don’t forget Neil Harris by January the Chairman Dalman expects at least Top 6.

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VINCE ALM ( Head of CCFC Supporters Club ):


One manager in 20 years has taken this fixture seriously Malky Mackay.

Another lack lustre Derby performance unfortunately no energy, no game plan, no desire, no idea.

Another game to forget quickly

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You just said it mate , they need to perform on the pitch and show us

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4 wins out of 5 !!!!!

I am definitely not a Harris apologist, but get a grip.

Losing to the Jacks is never easy but lets be fair, they have got the better of us for a while now. I still wouldn't want to be one !!

He looks like he is a streaky manager, I just hope this is not a start of the losing drawing streak.

Its pointless sacking him, i just hope we take the rest of the season to line someone who has achieved something in the game at more than one club. Because its obvious he is not the answer

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4 wins out of 5 !!!!!

I am definitely not a Harris apologist, but get a grip.

Losing to the Jacks is never easy but lets be fair, they have got the better of us for a while now. I still wouldn't want to be one !!

He looks like he is a streaky manager, I just hope this is not a start of the losing drawing streak.

Its pointless sacking him, i just hope we take the rest of the season to line someone who has achieved something in the game at more than one club. Because its obvious he is not the answer

Get a grip ?
No I f*cking won’t , it might not of hurt you the other day one, one of the most dire Derby performances I’ve ever seen in 49 yrs, the other was 3nil loss under Ole and NO I won’t get a grip, I will say how I feel .


Who said he had to be sacked?



You get a f*cking grip if you support and really care for our club, our pride is hurt .

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Nope. The last 4 against them we haven't even scored a goal. These are the games all the fans remember and we've been let down badly.

For me it's the whole set-up. The players we have, the way we play, no pace, no creativity. The football is old school and dire. Get Bellamy in, rip this squad up and start again even if it means two years to get us to point where we are playing football and challenging for promotion. This squad is shot.

I am with Wardy on this...i have been watching city since 1966 and the performances apart from the odd game here and there have been dire...this squad is shot...
I would love to see Bellamy in here he would rip them to bits
Its passionless
And I haven t calmed down either Annis is right...but never wanted Harris here, wanted him out after Coventry and voted after the 4 wins for him to still go...he s not going to get us in the play offs again. the writing was on the wall against stoke..all the injuries they had and we were 0-1 down they hit the bar and missed a pen...we rode our luck ......but for 65 mins it was dire.

The result performance were terrible but this idea that if there was passion commitment it would of made it better is rubbish result is the only thing that matters.
Every time we lose a Derby we question passion commitment no matter what the performance was like, I imagine it's the same at clubs across the country.
Best response is 3 points tomorrow.

It’s not only losing to the jacks it’s the nature of the way we lost to them, no fight, no passion and no guts

I am with Wardy on this...i have been watching city since 1966 and the performances apart from the odd game here and there have been dire...this squad is shot...
I would love to see Bellamy in here he would rip them to bits
Its passionless
And I haven t calmed down either Annis is right...but never wanted Harris here, wanted him out after Coventry and voted after the 4 wins for him to still go...he s not going to get us in the play offs again. the writing was on the wall against stoke..all the injuries they had and we were 0-1 down they hit the bar and missed a pen...we rode our luck ......but for 65 mins it was dire.

COMPLETELY AGREE

We're stuck with this awful squad at the moment. But in my view we'd be better off with a rebuild under a manager & coaches who have a clue. Harris & co are amateurs IMO. It's not just about results. How long has it been since we've really enjoyed watching city play? For me, under Malky in the Prem.

Who honestly would you keep?
My view:
Smithies
Morrison (but not as captain)
Tutu (if we can buy & a good young player)
Ralls (still a good squad player)
Bagan
Wilson (but unlikely to want to stay)
Moore
Tomlin (pay as you go)
Phillips (GK)
Cunningham (maybe squad player)

The rest can do one.

No because its the way we lost - No effort whatsoever

If Harris cant get these players up for a game then its time for him to go

Fans will never calm down after a performance like that in a derby.

Out coached, out played and out-worked. Pathetic.

We need to see progress on the pitch and a clear plan to move forward.

Although it’s pretty obvious Harris got the team selection and tactics wrong, the really disappointing thing for me was that our team which is full of hugely experienced players, international players, many have premier league experience and others had played hundreds of championship games... Yet non of them stepped up to the plate and changed the situation on the pitch.

Where was the leadership??

Where was the “nous”... we needed to break up the rhythm of the Jacks and we failed abysmally

Although some people wouldn’t be pleased by his antics if we had someone like Bellamy on to be pitch he would have been winding up their players putting pressure on the ref and generally being a pain in the arse. Not pretty but effective!!

Unfortunately none of our players was able to do this, we have a definite lack of leadership on the pitch

For me it's the whole set-up. The players we have, the way we play, no pace, no creativity. The football is old school and dire. Get Bellamy in, rip this squad up and start again even if it means two years to get us to point where we are playing football and challenging for promotion. This squad is shot.

I totally agree mate. The whole setup is rotten to and the core at City, and needs people coming in who actually know what to do,,, with regards to running a professional football club.

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Iain Thomas:


calmed down?you serious, still f##king raging at the shower of shite on show, absolute disgrace every one of them, they can win how ever many games in a bounce but that performance was unforgivable at every level and something we won't ever forgive or forget. every single one of them were awful not one of them fit enough to wear the shirt, their only saving grace for them is the fact we wernt there to tell them exactly what we think and now they can hide behind the screens and in isolation without knowing our full fury. it's left a bitter bitter taste in the mouth. absolute joke if that's the performance they put in and to even attempt to make an excuse is rubbing salt into the wounds. they owe us big time after that humiliation

Message to players

Only good as your last game on this forum. Not all posters but a few perhaps. However, constructive criticism should be seen as a positive I guess.

Yes and I’m not writing this team off just yet. My judgement will be reserved until 46-games have been played. However, I was more annoyed than normal after the defeat to Swansea, purely for the bragging rights. Hopefully Wilson will be deployed in a more central role moving forward as we watch fortune rise.

I know most won't wanna hear this but I don't think sacking the manager is the answer.The problems go way back before Harris's tenure and I do believe some players are finding difficult to get the Warnock way out of their system.Just take the players Harris has brought in.


To a man they are the type of player that the city need going forward.It's the players he inherited when he got here are the problem.As for being angry,that comes from having to admit that they were better than us in every facet of the game and(heres the bit I'm ashamed of)actually enjoyed some of their play,especially their 2nd goal scored by a player that I would have liked here.For the first time in all my years of following the city I feel I have no come back against any jacks banter.

I never got too angry because I knew it was going to be a tough game regardless of the red card we had so yeah just 1 of those games where it could off went either way. Still support the team and manager going foreward because after Birmingham is a very tough game against Norwich so if we get back to winning ways against Birmingham then we will be fine. We can do our best against Norwich but then after that we got much easier games against Wycombe Rotherham and teams around them.

No because its the way we lost - No effort whatsoever

If Harris cant get these players up for a game then its time for him to go

Hardly harris's fault that the players put in a gutless performance imho,the players should not get away with the wrath of the fans!
Personally,yes it hurt,but it was the lack of commitment by most who played that game that got me more upset,as once they take the field,there is little he can do if they havent got the balls to put in a shift,and show some passion!
Lets not forget,if we had lost to anyone else,then we wouldnt be too upset imho,12 from 15 on offer is promotion form,but as it was against the jacks its magnified 10 fold!
Have I got over losing,yes,was I very dissatisfied with players effort,or lack of it,yes again.maybe its because I see bristol as our derby? Everybody has a right to an opinion though,without slagging one another out over it surely?? My glass is still half full,but thats me,not everyone feels the same,and thats absolutely fine by me.

No because its the way we lost - No effort whatsoever

If Harris cant get these players up for a game then its time for him to go

Hardly harris's fault that the players put in a gutless performance imho,the players should not get away with the wrath of the fans!
Personally,yes it hurt,but it was the lack of commitment by most who played that game that got me more upset,as once they take the field,there is little he can do if they havent got the balls to put in a shift,and show some passion!
Lets not forget,if we had lost to anyone else,then we wouldnt be too upset imho,12 from 15 on offer is promotion form,but as it was against the jacks its magnified 10 fold!
Have I got over losing,yes,was I very dissatisfied with players effort,or lack of it,yes again.maybe its because I see bristol as our derby? Everybody has a right to an opinion though,without slagging one another out over it surely?? My glass is still half full,but thats me,not everyone feels the same,and thats absolutely fine by me.

Gutless performance from the players but the majority of the blame lies with Harris for this one. Cooper changed his tactics to deal with us and Harris couldn't even bring himself to bring on fresh legs when the team were clearly knackered. We were shite all game and Harris did nothing to change that. Literally nothing. Half time wilson should have gone central and Murphy should have come on for Harris.

A forced sub due to injury, a sub after going to 2 down to make sure we didn't concede again, and a pointless sub in the 92nd minute. Piss poor game management from Harris

No because its the way we lost - No effort whatsoever

If Harris cant get these players up for a game then its time for him to go

Hardly harris's fault that the players put in a gutless performance imho,the players should not get away with the wrath of the fans!
Personally,yes it hurt,but it was the lack of commitment by most who played that game that got me more upset,as once they take the field,there is little he can do if they havent got the balls to put in a shift,and show some passion!
Lets not forget,if we had lost to anyone else,then we wouldnt be too upset imho,12 from 15 on offer is promotion form,but as it was against the jacks its magnified 10 fold!
Have I got over losing,yes,was I very dissatisfied with players effort,or lack of it,yes again.maybe its because I see bristol as our derby? Everybody has a right to an opinion though,without slagging one another out over it surely?? My glass is still half full,but thats me,not everyone feels the same,and thats absolutely fine by me.

Agree.

We may well have lost that game anyway because of the team/formation that Harris picked. However, it would have been easier to take if we had at least laid a glove on them and made them work for it.

The second goal highlighted it. Lowe ran with the ball for ages and the only player that tried to take him out was Harry Wilson !! I didn't realise he was signed as a midfield enforcer and he failed to bring him down anyway !! Where

I've said in another thread that playing 4 in midfield against a team set up like the Jacks is suicide but then allowing them to just ping the ball around with no pressure or closing down is naivety/stupidity

Harris bottled the team selection because he didn't want to upset someone after 4 wins on the bounce, but it was a wrong decision, that's his responsibility. The players are culpable for the lack of effort/spark.

Yep still angry.

That sort of performance leaves a very bad vibe around the club and it can only be fixed by the players themselves. They need to look at themselves in the mirror and ask themselves the question do they fit into this clubs ambitions. I bet a few of them know the answer is no.

It’s not only losing to the jacks it’s the nature of the way we lost to them, no fight, no passion and no guts

im 100% sure no passion , no guts and no fight would result in a real hammering.. not a sloppy goal and another when down to 10 men....