Spare a thought for us.

In my opinion unless you live in Neath/Port Talbot or the surrounding areas you don't get the real feel of the hatred the jacks have for us, its bred into them to hate all things Cardiff from a very early age.
Its not the Port Talbot Jacks we have a problem with as most of us have close friends who support them but once you go over the Briton Ferry bridge its a different world.
I used to work for a company based in Swansea and got along really well with 2 guys there until they found out I was a Bluebird, they never spoke to me from that day onwards!
The derby means so much more to them than it does to us.
The majority of the Swansea players and staff live within the Swansea area so get reminded on a daily basis of how much they hate us and how important it is to beat us, hence Coopers show of unity with the whole squad and backroom staff on OUR pitch after yesterdays game.
I dont think for one minute our players and staff are given the same treatment from our fans as I believe the majority of our players live down the Vale, Newport or the other side of the severn bridge so dont have the same daily contact that the jacks have with their players etc.
Spare a though for us who live west of bridgend, we have a torrid time ahead of us.

I dont understand cardiff fans from port talbot. They (you) complain about people from south wales supporting teams like manu, liverpool etc yet you have done the exact same thing and that is support a team that is not local because they are more successful.

Anyway i dont think you can blame swansea fans from hating cardiff with a passion -
1. Sam hammam comments " swansea will never be a big club" " bigger than barcelona"
2. All of wales investment going to the city of cardiff
3. FAW panel of 12 having 7 cardiff city season ticket holders resulting in every appeal from cardiff getting overturned etc
4. BBC wales always showing highlights of cardiff whilst barely mentioning swansea

With all that in mind, it makes swanseas success of reaching the premier league first ever more impressive.

Coming from Bridgend the sighting of anything Swansea City was rarer than rocking horse shit .All the old school were bluebirds but now there seems to be loads of them .Thats what happens when a side gets a bit of success. most are young so just take no notice of them but i would imagine Port talbot is a lot different .Best of luck for forseeable .you might need it .
When i was younger there were loads of loons from PT .PINCH OBNAIL PIPER FLANKER AND TONTO to mention a few.

I dont understand cardiff fans from port talbot. They (you) complain about people from south wales supporting teams like manu, liverpool etc yet you have done the exact same thing and that is support a team that is not local because they are more successful.

Anyway i dont think you can blame swansea fans from hating cardiff with a passion -
1. Sam hammam comments " swansea will never be a big club" " bigger than barcelona"
2. All of wales investment going to the city of cardiff
3. FAW panel of 12 having 7 cardiff city season ticket holders resulting in every appeal from cardiff getting overturned etc
4. BBC wales always showing highlights of cardiff whilst barely mentioning swansea

With all that in mind, it makes swanseas success of reaching the premier league first ever more impressive.

Trefelin o6 First of all you talk about us criticising people who follow United or Liverpool loads of Swansea fans I know do the same I’m from port talbot I’m not from Swansea and I’m not from Cardiff but I had a choice I chose to follow Cardiff city Swansea are not a big club that’s been proved many times over the last few years anyone can sell out when they get to the premier league most Swansea fans don’t even know why the dislike Cardiff but the points you make are way off the mark the coverage of both clubs by the bbc is appalling to the four welsh clubs you say all welsh investmeant goes to Cardiff why is it that people from Swansea’get jobs in our steelworks before people in port talbot you get more investmeant in Swansea than we do in port talbot even the people in Swansea prefer to shop in Cardiff I know we see it every week when we get on the train after matches they even tell us there own city is shite and that down to the people who run that city I could go on and on also I’m from velindre originally and by the way why did you go over the bridge to Swansea when you could have supported port talbot you’re local team

I dont understand cardiff fans from port talbot. They (you) complain about people from south wales supporting teams like manu, liverpool etc yet you have done the exact same thing and that is support a team that is not local because they are more successful.

Anyway i dont think you can blame swansea fans from hating cardiff with a passion -
1. Sam hammam comments " swansea will never be a big club" " bigger than barcelona"
2. All of wales investment going to the city of cardiff
3. FAW panel of 12 having 7 cardiff city season ticket holders resulting in every appeal from cardiff getting overturned etc
4. BBC wales always showing highlights of cardiff whilst barely mentioning swansea

With all that in mind, it makes swanseas success of reaching the premier league first ever more impressive.

Of the 4 points you have raised i'll give you point 1 & 2 as fact.
On the other points there was one Cardiff City season ticket holder on the disciplinary panel and 1 Swansea City fan, I know both personally.
The others were affiliated with welsh league clubs so spent their Saturdays watching there local welsh league club and not Cardiff City.
The rest of the committee was made up of FAW members from Mid and North Wales.
For the record I started following Cardiff in the mid 70's as there used to be 3 coaches going from Port Talbot to all home games.
Swansea at that time never had a coach going, although they did start one from The Beach Hotel a few years later.
Swansea were then a 4th division team with crowds of 2 to 3 thousand Cardiff on the other hand were a 2nd division side and always considered Wales' biggest club, as they are today.
Being a teenager back then in Port Talbot it was considered cooler to be a Cardiff fan than a Swansea fan so wanting to be in with the crowd it had to be Cardiff for me even though as a kid Leeds were my team.
After going to 5 or 6 games I got the Cardiff bug and Leeds were history.
Lots of boys my age wanting to be cool were also jumping on the bandwagon and pretty soon all became a fully fledged Bluebirds.
Up until your Premier League days Port Talbot was always a Cardiff town but that has changed with the younger generation wanting to watch Premier League football but also supporting one of the bigger clubs too.
We are all in our late 40's and 50's now and still go along with our sons daughters and grandkids so Port Talbot will always have a strong Bluebird following

My mate is from PT, and became a Swans fan because his Mum wouldn’t let him go to Cardiff because it was too rough..ha ha

Also know a load of lads from Carmarthen who support Cardiff... hate the Swans deeply. Why I don’t know. Everyone is looking East it seems, including us..most Swans fans I know are alright. A few are real dipsticks tho..come across as a bit dim

I dont understand cardiff fans from port talbot. They (you) complain about people from south wales supporting teams like manu, liverpool etc yet you have done the exact same thing and that is support a team that is not local because they are more successful.

Anyway i dont think you can blame swansea fans from hating cardiff with a passion -
1. Sam hammam comments " swansea will never be a big club" " bigger than barcelona"
2. All of wales investment going to the city of cardiff
3. FAW panel of 12 having 7 cardiff city season ticket holders resulting in every appeal from cardiff getting overturned etc
4. BBC wales always showing highlights of cardiff whilst barely mentioning swansea

With all that in mind, it makes swanseas success of reaching the premier league first ever more impressive.

Of the 4 points you have raised i'll give you point 1 & 2 as fact.
On the other points there was one Cardiff City season ticket holder on the disciplinary panel and 1 Swansea City fan, I know both personally.
The others were affiliated with welsh league clubs so spent their Saturdays watching there local welsh league club and not Cardiff City.
The rest of the committee was made up of FAW members from Mid and North Wales.
For the record I started following Cardiff in the mid 70's as there used to be 3 coaches going from Port Talbot to all home games.
Swansea at that time never had a coach going, although they did start one from The Beach Hotel a few years later.
Swansea were then a 4th division team with crowds of 2 to 3 thousand Cardiff on the other hand were a 2nd division side and always considered Wales' biggest club, as they are today.
Being a teenager back then in Port Talbot it was considered cooler to be a Cardiff fan than a Swansea fan so wanting to be in with the crowd it had to be Cardiff for me even though as a kid Leeds were my team.
After going to 5 or 6 games I got the Cardiff bug and Leeds were history.
Lots of boys my age wanting to be cool were also jumping on the bandwagon and pretty soon all became a fully fledged Bluebirds.
Up until your Premier League days Port Talbot was always a Cardiff town but that has changed with the younger generation wanting to watch Premier League football but also supporting one of the bigger clubs too.
We are all in our late 40's and 50's now and still go along with our sons daughters and grandkids so Port Talbot will always have a strong Bluebird following

what a lot of Swansea don’t know is that we where in the old first division for many years when Swansea was only classed as a town hence they where Swansea town and never played in the old until they got promoted under toshack we got relegated in 1962 from the old first division and we never returned but even in division two we where still the bigger club

Always been a large contingent of City fans from the Port Talbot/Neath areas, I sit next to a good friend of mine, from Baglan, down the CCS. Top bloke.

Always been a large contingent of City fans from the Port Talbot/Neath areas, I sit next to a good friend of mine, from Baglan, down the CCS. Top bloke.

I’m from Baglan as well probably know him

Always been a large contingent of City fans from the Port Talbot/Neath areas, I sit next to a good friend of mine, from Baglan, down the CCS. Top bloke.

I’m from Baglan as well probably know him

Probably do,,, ex ref.

I dont understand cardiff fans from port talbot. They (you) complain about people from south wales supporting teams like manu, liverpool etc yet you have done the exact same thing and that is support a team that is not local because they are more successful.

Anyway i dont think you can blame swansea fans from hating cardiff with a passion -
1. Sam hammam comments " swansea will never be a big club" " bigger than barcelona"
2. All of wales investment going to the city of cardiff
3. FAW panel of 12 having 7 cardiff city season ticket holders resulting in every appeal from cardiff getting overturned etc
4. BBC wales always showing highlights of cardiff whilst barely mentioning swansea

With all that in mind, it makes swanseas success of reaching the premier league first ever more impressive.

Trefelin o6 First of all you talk about us criticising people who follow United or Liverpool loads of Swansea fans I know do the same I’m from port talbot I’m not from Swansea and I’m not from Cardiff but I had a choice I chose to follow Cardiff city Swansea are not a big club that’s been proved many times over the last few years anyone can sell out when they get to the premier league most Swansea fans don’t even know why the dislike Cardiff but the points you make are way off the mark the coverage of both clubs by the bbc is appalling to the four welsh clubs you say all welsh investmeant goes to Cardiff why is it that people from Swansea’get jobs in our steelworks before people in port talbot you get more investmeant in Swansea than we do in port talbot even the people in Swansea prefer to shop in Cardiff I know we see it every week when we get on the train after matches they even tell us there own city is shite and that down to the people who run that city I could go on and on also I’m from velindre originally and by the way why did you go over the bridge to Swansea when you could have supported port talbot you’re local team

Doesnt take a lot to realise who my local team are (in my name). Anyway, all ive heard over many years on here is moaning and complaining about people from south wales supporting top 4 teams. You simply havent got a leg to stand on if your from port talbot and support cardiff. The argument you use on someone who supports Manchester united from Bridgend can be used on you, fact!.

Coming from Bridgend the sighting of anything Swansea City was rarer than rocking horse shit .All the old school were bluebirds but now there seems to be loads of them .Thats what happens when a side gets a bit of success. most are young so just take no notice of them but i would imagine Port talbot is a lot different .Best of luck for forseeable .you might need it .
When i was younger there were loads of loons from PT .PINCH OBNAIL PIPER FLANKER AND TONTO to mention a few.

and JAWS, remember him? hell of a character, a great laugh, died some years back, rip.

I dont understand cardiff fans from port talbot. They (you) complain about people from south wales supporting teams like manu, liverpool etc yet you have done the exact same thing and that is support a team that is not local because they are more successful.

Anyway i dont think you can blame swansea fans from hating cardiff with a passion -
1. Sam hammam comments " swansea will never be a big club" " bigger than barcelona"
2. All of wales investment going to the city of cardiff
3. FAW panel of 12 having 7 cardiff city season ticket holders resulting in every appeal from cardiff getting overturned etc
4. BBC wales always showing highlights of cardiff whilst barely mentioning swansea

With all that in mind, it makes swanseas success of reaching the premier league first ever more impressive.

Trefelin o6 First of all you talk about us criticising people who follow United or Liverpool loads of Swansea fans I know do the same I’m from port talbot I’m not from Swansea and I’m not from Cardiff but I had a choice I chose to follow Cardiff city Swansea are not a big club that’s been proved many times over the last few years anyone can sell out when they get to the premier league most Swansea fans don’t even know why the dislike Cardiff but the points you make are way off the mark the coverage of both clubs by the bbc is appalling to the four welsh clubs you say all welsh investmeant goes to Cardiff why is it that people from Swansea’get jobs in our steelworks before people in port talbot you get more investmeant in Swansea than we do in port talbot even the people in Swansea prefer to shop in Cardiff I know we see it every week when we get on the train after matches they even tell us there own city is shite and that down to the people who run that city I could go on and on also I’m from velindre originally and by the way why did you go over the bridge to Swansea when you could have supported port talbot you’re local team

Doesnt take a lot to realise who my local team are (in my name). Anyway, all ive heard over many years on here is moaning and complaining about people from south wales supporting top 4 teams. You simply havent got a leg to stand on if your from port talbot and support cardiff. The argument you use on someone who supports Manchester united from Bridgend can be used on you, fact!.

Man U Liverpool etc are English
Cardiff WELSH
Try that for a argument

Coming from Bridgend the sighting of anything Swansea City was rarer than rocking horse shit .All the old school were bluebirds but now there seems to be loads of them .Thats what happens when a side gets a bit of success. most are young so just take no notice of them but i would imagine Port talbot is a lot different .Best of luck for forseeable .you might need it .
When i was younger there were loads of loons from PT .PINCH OBNAIL PIPER FLANKER AND TONTO to mention a few.

Even fatty the roofer was a jack

Coming from Bridgend the sighting of anything Swansea City was rarer than rocking horse shit .All the old school were bluebirds but now there seems to be loads of them .Thats what happens when a side gets a bit of success. most are young so just take no notice of them but i would imagine Port talbot is a lot different .Best of luck for forseeable .you might need it .
When i was younger there were loads of loons from PT .PINCH OBNAIL PIPER FLANKER AND TONTO to mention a few.

Even fatty the roofer was a jack

That's why all you fabulous supporters who travel the extra distance to watch city deserve better .

THIS fatty lewis the roofer is def not a jack.

Yes.. fair play to all the Neath/Port Talbot lads.. Trefelin, you can’t blame anyone. Swansea is a bit of a grubby dump according to many who live there..

Always been a large contingent of City fans from the Port Talbot/Neath areas, I sit next to a good friend of mine, from Baglan, down the CCS. Top bloke.

I’m from Baglan as well probably know him

Probably do,,, ex ref.

Yeah know him well good mate of mine

I dont understand cardiff fans from port talbot. They (you) complain about people from south wales supporting teams like manu, liverpool etc yet you have done the exact same thing and that is support a team that is not local because they are more successful.

Anyway i dont think you can blame swansea fans from hating cardiff with a passion -
1. Sam hammam comments " swansea will never be a big club" " bigger than barcelona"
2. All of wales investment going to the city of cardiff
3. FAW panel of 12 having 7 cardiff city season ticket holders resulting in every appeal from cardiff getting overturned etc
4. BBC wales always showing highlights of cardiff whilst barely mentioning swansea

With all that in mind, it makes swanseas success of reaching the premier league first ever more impressive.

Trefelin o6 First of all you talk about us criticising people who follow United or Liverpool loads of Swansea fans I know do the same I’m from port talbot I’m not from Swansea and I’m not from Cardiff but I had a choice I chose to follow Cardiff city Swansea are not a big club that’s been proved many times over the last few years anyone can sell out when they get to the premier league most Swansea fans don’t even know why the dislike Cardiff but the points you make are way off the mark the coverage of both clubs by the bbc is appalling to the four welsh clubs you say all welsh investmeant goes to Cardiff why is it that people from Swansea’get jobs in our steelworks before people in port talbot you get more investmeant in Swansea than we do in port talbot even the people in Swansea prefer to shop in Cardiff I know we see it every week when we get on the train after matches they even tell us there own city is shite and that down to the people who run that city I could go on and on also I’m from velindre originally and by the way why did you go over the bridge to Swansea when you could have supported port talbot you’re local team

Doesnt take a lot to realise who my local team are (in my name). Anyway, all ive heard over many years on here is moaning and complaining about people from south wales supporting top 4 teams. You simply havent got a leg to stand on if your from port talbot and support cardiff. The argument you use on someone who supports Manchester united from Bridgend can be used on you, fact!.

Man U Liverpool etc are English
Cardiff WELSH
Try that for a argument

I bet you where following Swansea’s before trefelin got into the welsh league port talbot have been in the welsh league for years but you chose to follow you’re local team Swansea .I know most of the people who run trefelin they are life long friends of mine .I never complain about people who follow English clubs I totally understand why you can’t get you’re head around the fact that people from port talbot follow Cardiff

Fatty the roofer used to sit by an ex referee from baglan as well .he was originally from Glyncorwg .his name was Keith .IS it him

Fatty the roofer used to sit by an ex referee from baglan as well .he was originally from Glyncorwg .his name was Keith .IS it him

the referee from Baglan is Barry Keith the other guy who I also know was from gwnyfie originally but lives in Margam he’s lived there for years

Thanks Cardiff 74 .you are quite right he was from Gwynfie.Same horse diff jockey .i was close.

Yes thats correct Barry is Baglan, Keith Schofield and Phil Southall are from Margam

I've always had the utmost respect for buebirds in the port Talbot, neath area. Know a few having worked there for 16 years and have noticed in that time a shift in fanbase numbers towards the jacks. Was definitely a stronger cardiff contingent when I started there.
To be fair most of the Jack's I know are good blokes to be honest. I'd be ripped apart for a shift then crack on until the next time

I've always had the utmost respect for buebirds in the port Talbot, neath area. Know a few having worked there for 16 years and have noticed in that time a shift in fanbase numbers towards the jacks. Was definitely a stronger cardiff contingent when I started there.
To be fair most of the Jack's I know are good blokes to be honest. I'd be ripped apart for a shift then crack on until the next time

Very true, but a lot have drifted back to their first supported team now that Swansea are no longer a Premier League team.
Not so many kids wearing Swansea shirts nowadays either.

I've always had the utmost respect for buebirds in the port Talbot, neath area. Know a few having worked there for 16 years and have noticed in that time a shift in fanbase numbers towards the jacks. Was definitely a stronger cardiff contingent when I started there.
To be fair most of the Jack's I know are good blokes to be honest. I'd be ripped apart for a shift then crack on until the next time

Very true, but a lot have drifted back to their first supported team now that Swansea are no longer a Premier League team.
Not so many kids wearing Swansea shirts nowadays either.

Glad of that, whites not a good colour to have on your washing line in Margam or Taibach

Spare a thought for me I have to go past the one horse town every home game best part of journey is when get to port Talbot and pont abraham then I'm outside Swansea!

Interesting stuff this. When I grew up on the Sandfields I started to watch the City when I was nine. Bus from Western Avenue chemist, always full. I distinctly remember going to a Welsh Cup Final ? second leg at the Vetch with around 20 kids all Sandfields in 1969 I did not know any Swans fans. There again I was a little kid but among my peer group not one. Equally I knew of one Liverpool fanatic a mate's elder brother who was about 15.At school I knew about 2 Liverpool fans. Guess what they started to win things and there are literally hundreds of them. I am friends with a real Swans fan who would go to Carlisle on a November Tuesday in Division 4. She scoffs at all the bandwagon Johnnies and has stopped going completely. I suppose it is your perception but Port Talbot in my opinion was always a Bluebird stronghold. Just my pennethworth really.