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Looks like it going to be a No Deal.

So 3 years later its going to be what quite a few of us said it would be. Bit of a joke really.

Talks continuing after tonights deadline! EU are as worried as labour Is about no deal, looking at reasons for boris holding out EU say want uk to be tied to EU trade as dont want uk to have an advantage over them when it comes to tariffs as they say be unfair advantage to uk, they also want to keep their fishing rights but because boris said wont let them keep them so EU say we cant have access to EU markets! Going to be tough but in long run its obvious we will be better off otherwise EU wouldn't be worried about us having an advantage over them trade wise..

Talks continuing after tonights deadline! EU are as worried as labour Is about no deal, looking at reasons for boris holding out EU say want uk to be tied to EU trade as dont want uk to have an advantage over them when it comes to tariffs as they say be unfair advantage to uk, they also want to keep their fishing rights but because boris said wont let them keep them so EU say we cant have access to EU markets! Going to be tough but in long run its obvious we will be better off otherwise EU wouldn't be worried about us having an advantage over them trade wise..

If only it was this simple.

Talks continuing after tonights deadline! EU are as worried as labour Is about no deal, looking at reasons for boris holding out EU say want uk to be tied to EU trade as dont want uk to have an advantage over them when it comes to tariffs as they say be unfair advantage to uk, they also want to keep their fishing rights but because boris said wont let them keep them so EU say we cant have access to EU markets! Going to be tough but in long run its obvious we will be better off otherwise EU wouldn't be worried about us having an advantage over them trade wise..

If only it was this simple.

Yes I know but to many people got vested interests in either deal or no deal outcome? but if we are leaving it is completely and not have EU dictate what they want to make Brexit better for them and keep us tied to EU as they would like..... trouble with EU is if uk makes it work and we prosper as they fear we will that will encourage others to leave who want to but are to scared to do so! What we cannot do is have half measures leave means leave with no strings tying us to EU rules or laws

Agreed.

Looks like it going to be a No Deal.

So 3 years later its going to be what quite a few of us said it would be. Bit of a joke really.

four and a half years even....

Looks like it going to be a No Deal.

So 3 years later its going to be what quite a few of us said it would be. Bit of a joke really.

The EU has always wanted to punish us for leaving, they may still continue to do so but will have to cut off their nose to spite their face, and having second thoughts now they know Boris will take us out with no deal rather than give up our sovereignty again.

Looks like it going to be a No Deal.

So 3 years later its going to be what quite a few of us said it would be. Bit of a joke really.

The EU has always wanted to punish us for leaving, they may still continue to do so but will have to cut off their nose to spite their face, and having second thoughts now they know Boris will take us out with no deal rather than give up our sovereignty again.

That's way it looks when you read what EU are saying.... they are worried that we will have unfair advantage over EU trade because of tariffs that we dont have to impose so making us cheaper than EU countries.... it's there in black & white why the EU want to keep uk tied into their rules and laws but boris in fairness wont buy it! Not like drakeford says any deal is better than no deal in other words let EU screw us over as long as we get deal typical labour stance...

If the lefties hadn't tried to over turn the democratic vote brexit would have been all done and dusted by now ,instead it was dragged out way longer than it should have ,the EU thought they had us over a barrel cos Westminster was split ,if those MPs who tried to stop brexit respected the democratic vote and showed the EU we were all together it would all been over ages ago.

If the lefties hadn't tried to over turn the democratic vote brexit would have been all done and dusted by now ,instead it was dragged out way longer than it should have ,the EU thought they had us over a barrel cos Westminster was split ,if those MPs who tried to stop brexit respected the democratic vote and showed the EU we were all together it would all been over ages ago.

When were the 'lefties' in charge?
The beginning... No
Middle... No
Now... No

The conservatives have been in charge the entire time and have had a year with an overwhelming majority full of brexiteers to do their 'oven ready trade deal' and they are still f*cking it up.

Its the tories and brexiteers fault and no one else's. This is your 'victory' own it.

Looks like it going to be a No Deal.

So 3 years later its going to be what quite a few of us said it would be. Bit of a joke really.

I honestly think it's what Boris wanted/wants; and by 'sticking to his guns' on the final big issues, he can say he tried but that the EU didn't want to allow the UK its 'sovereignty' in the true sense, i.e. independent of Brussels decision-making

Time (now in short supply) will tell but the signs, maybe not the political rhetoric, are there

Come on you know labour tried to stop it along with ,lib Dems and SNP , you had loads of labour MPs who constituents voted leave and there MPs totally ignored them and said they don't know what they were doing ,that's why labour got smashed out the park in the election .

Come on you know labour tried to stop it along with ,lib Dems and SNP , you had loads of labour MPs who constituents voted leave and there MPs totally ignored them and said they don't know what they were doing ,that's why labour got smashed out the park in the election .

You might be right that the opposition parties tried to block it but the bottom line they couldn't because they weren't in government !!

Any delays are down solely and squarely due to the Tory government there is no getting away from that. They were the only ones who were able to drive anything through and any delays, actually, would have ben trying to placate the various factions in their own party as they were the only ones who have a really effect on the timescales.

Come on you know labour tried to stop it along with ,lib Dems and SNP , you had loads of labour MPs who constituents voted leave and there MPs totally ignored them and said they don't know what they were doing ,that's why labour got smashed out the park in the election .

You might be right that the opposition parties tried to block it but the bottom line they couldn't because they weren't in government !!

Any delays are down solely and squarely due to the Tory government there is no getting away from that. They were the only ones who were able to drive anything through and any delays, actually, would have ben trying to placate the various factions in their own party as they were the only ones who have a really effect on the timescales.

Although the BBC never criticise them, the EU are the ones who dragged it out

If the lefties hadn't tried to over turn the democratic vote brexit would have been all done and dusted by now ,instead it was dragged out way longer than it should have ,the EU thought they had us over a barrel cos Westminster was split ,if those MPs who tried to stop brexit respected the democratic vote and showed the EU we were all together it would all been over ages ago.

When were the 'lefties' in charge?
The beginning... No
Middle... No
Now... No

The conservatives have been in charge the entire time and have had a year with an overwhelming majority full of brexiteers to do their 'oven ready trade deal' and they are still f*cking it up.

Its the tories and brexiteers fault and no one else's. This is your 'victory' own it.

Dont worry be happy! Still talking and fat lady hasnt sung yet ...

If the lefties hadn't tried to over turn the democratic vote brexit would have been all done and dusted by now ,instead it was dragged out way longer than it should have ,the EU thought they had us over a barrel cos Westminster was split ,if those MPs who tried to stop brexit respected the democratic vote and showed the EU we were all together it would all been over ages ago.

When were the 'lefties' in charge?
The beginning... No
Middle... No
Now... No

The conservatives have been in charge the entire time and have had a year with an overwhelming majority full of brexiteers to do their 'oven ready trade deal' and they are still f*cking it up.

Its the tories and brexiteers fault and no one else's. This is your 'victory' own it.

The lefties were never in charge, but they did their best to undermine our position even having chats with the EU. telling them they would try and stop Brexit and not to do a deal, well it's backfired, and a no deal hard Brexit is what they will get

Looks like it going to be a No Deal.

So 3 years later its going to be what quite a few of us said it would be. Bit of a joke really.

I honestly think it's what Boris wanted/wants; and by 'sticking to his guns' on the final big issues, he can say he tried but that the EU didn't want to allow the UK its 'sovereignty' in the true sense, i.e. independent of Brussels decision-making

Time (now in short supply) will tell but the signs, maybe not the political rhetoric, are there

The EU doesn't want to let us go and want us to agree to EU rules, feck that no chance Dominic Grieve and his cronies are well gone

Come on you know labour tried to stop it along with ,lib Dems and SNP , you had loads of labour MPs who constituents voted leave and there MPs totally ignored them and said they don't know what they were doing ,that's why labour got smashed out the park in the election .

You might be right that the opposition parties tried to block it but the bottom line they couldn't because they weren't in government !!

Any delays are down solely and squarely due to the Tory government there is no getting away from that. They were the only ones who were able to drive anything through and any delays, actually, would have ben trying to placate the various factions in their own party as they were the only ones who have a really effect on the timescales.

Although the BBC never criticise them, the EU are the ones who dragged it out

Germany and France don't want us to show the rest of the EU how well they can do if they leave, they are still trying to punish us, or tie us into EU rules, it will cause some hassle for 3 months but we will be fine and thrive on a No deal Brexit, or they can cave in on the EU rules and we can give them some fish for a deal on our terms

Looks like it going to be a No Deal.

So 3 years later its going to be what quite a few of us said it would be. Bit of a joke really.

I honestly think it's what Boris wanted/wants; and by 'sticking to his guns' on the final big issues, he can say he tried but that the EU didn't want to allow the UK its 'sovereignty' in the true sense, i.e. independent of Brussels decision-making

Time (now in short supply) will tell but the signs, maybe not the political rhetoric, are there

The EU doesn't want to let us go and want us to agree to EU rules, feck that no chance Dominic Grieve and his cronies are well gone

Tend to agree (with some reservations as no one nows the future) and 100% voted to leave in its truest sense (for the attention of all those who think people like me didn't actually mean 'leave' when we voted)

Come on you know labour tried to stop it along with ,lib Dems and SNP , you had loads of labour MPs who constituents voted leave and there MPs totally ignored them and said they don't know what they were doing ,that's why labour got smashed out the park in the election .

You might be right that the opposition parties tried to block it but the bottom line they couldn't because they weren't in government !!

Any delays are down solely and squarely due to the Tory government there is no getting away from that. They were the only ones who were able to drive anything through and any delays, actually, would have ben trying to placate the various factions in their own party as they were the only ones who have a really effect on the timescales.

Although the BBC never criticise them, the EU are the ones who dragged it out

Germany and France don't want us to show the rest of the EU how well they can do if they leave, they are still trying to punish us, or tie us into EU rules, it will cause some hassle for 3 months but we will be fine and thrive on a No deal Brexit, or they can cave in on the EU rules and we can give them some fish for a deal on our terms

If they don't give us a deal we should tell them to shove their tariffs, BMW's and Merlot up their arse

Looks like it going to be a No Deal.

So 3 years later its going to be what quite a few of us said it would be. Bit of a joke really.

I honestly think it's what Boris wanted/wants; and by 'sticking to his guns' on the final big issues, he can say he tried but that the EU didn't want to allow the UK its 'sovereignty' in the true sense, i.e. independent of Brussels decision-making

Time (now in short supply) will tell but the signs, maybe not the political rhetoric, are there

The EU doesn't want to let us go and want us to agree to EU rules, feck that no chance Dominic Grieve and his cronies are well gone

Anyone can read what EU have said about fishing and tariffs and it's clear they are afraid we will have unfair advantage their "words" so they want to enforce unacceptable conditions for a deal but boris wont play ball hence like magic there is still time to have agreement ! Must not forget it's not just uk will suffer with no deal EU countries will suffer and that is not in their interest anymore than it is in UKs

Looks like it going to be a No Deal.

So 3 years later its going to be what quite a few of us said it would be. Bit of a joke really.

I honestly think it's what Boris wanted/wants; and by 'sticking to his guns' on the final big issues, he can say he tried but that the EU didn't want to allow the UK its 'sovereignty' in the true sense, i.e. independent of Brussels decision-making

Time (now in short supply) will tell but the signs, maybe not the political rhetoric, are there

The EU doesn't want to let us go and want us to agree to EU rules, feck that no chance Dominic Grieve and his cronies are well gone

Anyone can read what EU have said about fishing and tariffs and it's clear they are afraid we will have unfair advantage their "words" so they want to enforce unacceptable conditions for a deal but boris wont play ball hence like magic there is still time to have agreement ! Must not forget it's not just uk will suffer with no deal EU countries will suffer and that is not in their interest anymore than it is in UKs

Agreed, they fear us, we will have the potential to beat them with swift decisive action, just like we did to approve the vaccine, while they still feck about trying to decide by committee!

Whichever way we leave it will be the best decision ever, the EU are a mess and decisions are made purely for the benefit of Germany and to a lesser extent France.

Looks like it going to be a No Deal.

So 3 years later its going to be what quite a few of us said it would be. Bit of a joke really.

I honestly think it's what Boris wanted/wants; and by 'sticking to his guns' on the final big issues, he can say he tried but that the EU didn't want to allow the UK its 'sovereignty' in the true sense, i.e. independent of Brussels decision-making

Time (now in short supply) will tell but the signs, maybe not the political rhetoric, are there

The EU doesn't want to let us go and want us to agree to EU rules, feck that no chance Dominic Grieve and his cronies are well gone

Anyone can read what EU have said about fishing and tariffs and it's clear they are afraid we will have unfair advantage their "words" so they want to enforce unacceptable conditions for a deal but boris wont play ball hence like magic there is still time to have agreement ! Must not forget it's not just uk will suffer with no deal EU countries will suffer and that is not in their interest anymore than it is in UKs

Agreed, they fear us, we will have the potential to beat them with swift decisive action, just like we did to approve the vaccine, while they still feck about trying to decide by committee!

Whichever way we leave it will be the best decision ever, the EU are a mess and decisions are made purely for the benefit of Germany and to a lesser extent France.

A few years ago I work on a project here in Derby. I was told that if we did a good job we would become the main supplier for a bigger project run by Rolls Royce. We We did a good job but Rolls Rolls turned to Germany for the bigger project. Let's just say this would have never happened if we were out of the EU.

Looks like it going to be a No Deal.

So 3 years later its going to be what quite a few of us said it would be. Bit of a joke really.

I honestly think it's what Boris wanted/wants; and by 'sticking to his guns' on the final big issues, he can say he tried but that the EU didn't want to allow the UK its 'sovereignty' in the true sense, i.e. independent of Brussels decision-making

Time (now in short supply) will tell but the signs, maybe not the political rhetoric, are there

The EU doesn't want to let us go and want us to agree to EU rules, feck that no chance Dominic Grieve and his cronies are well gone

Anyone can read what EU have said about fishing and tariffs and it's clear they are afraid we will have unfair advantage their "words" so they want to enforce unacceptable conditions for a deal but boris wont play ball hence like magic there is still time to have agreement ! Must not forget it's not just uk will suffer with no deal EU countries will suffer and that is not in their interest anymore than it is in UKs

Agreed, they fear us, we will have the potential to beat them with swift decisive action, just like we did to approve the vaccine, while they still feck about trying to decide by committee!

Whichever way we leave it will be the best decision ever, the EU are a mess and decisions are made purely for the benefit of Germany and to a lesser extent France.

No one pretends it will be easy with or without a deal but what is clear they dont want us to have freedom to do what we like? It will take years probably to settle down but it will and then see benefits of not having EU dictatorship telling us what we can do.

If the lefties hadn't tried to over turn the democratic vote brexit would have been all done and dusted by now ,instead it was dragged out way longer than it should have ,the EU thought they had us over a barrel cos Westminster was split ,if those MPs who tried to stop brexit respected the democratic vote and showed the EU we were all together it would all been over ages ago.

When were the 'lefties' in charge?
The beginning... No
Middle... No
Now... No

The conservatives have been in charge the entire time and have had a year with an overwhelming majority full of brexiteers to do their 'oven ready trade deal' and they are still f*cking it up.

Its the tories and brexiteers fault and no one else's. This is your 'victory' own it.

‘Own it’ Dear Lord. You need to grow up Josh, you’re making Rumpelstiltskin look good..

It all started with Blair, although you could argue he was a Tory.. the lefties in charge were the EU, but hopefully no more. Tony Blair was Chief Brexiteer.. the Labour Party in all their puritanical stupidity started the ball rolling.
Now cmon mate.. that is amusing

If the lefties hadn't tried to over turn the democratic vote brexit would have been all done and dusted by now ,instead it was dragged out way longer than it should have ,the EU thought they had us over a barrel cos Westminster was split ,if those MPs who tried to stop brexit respected the democratic vote and showed the EU we were all together it would all been over ages ago.

When were the 'lefties' in charge?
The beginning... No
Middle... No
Now... No

The conservatives have been in charge the entire time and have had a year with an overwhelming majority full of brexiteers to do their 'oven ready trade deal' and they are still f*cking it up.

Its the tories and brexiteers fault and no one else's. This is your 'victory' own it.

‘Own it’ Dear Lord. You need to grow up Josh, you’re making Rumpelstiltskin look good..

It all started with Blair, although you could argue he was a Tory.. the lefties in charge were the EU, but hopefully no more. Tony Blair was Chief Brexiteer.. the Labour Party in all their puritanical stupidity started the ball rolling.
Now cmon mate.. that is amusing

What's rumplestitskin got to do with anything? Are you having a breakdown?

I guarantee that no matter what you and the rest of the brexiteers on here will never blame the tories, brexiteers, or the leave campaign for anything. The people who 'won' and are in charge.

This must be the only 'victory' that the winners don't want to take any credit for or responsibility.

If the lefties hadn't tried to over turn the democratic vote brexit would have been all done and dusted by now ,instead it was dragged out way longer than it should have ,the EU thought they had us over a barrel cos Westminster was split ,if those MPs who tried to stop brexit respected the democratic vote and showed the EU we were all together it would all been over ages ago.

When were the 'lefties' in charge?
The beginning... No
Middle... No
Now... No

The conservatives have been in charge the entire time and have had a year with an overwhelming majority full of brexiteers to do their 'oven ready trade deal' and they are still f*cking it up.

Its the tories and brexiteers fault and no one else's. This is your 'victory' own it.

‘Own it’ Dear Lord. You need to grow up Josh, you’re making Rumpelstiltskin look good..

It all started with Blair, although you could argue he was a Tory.. the lefties in charge were the EU, but hopefully no more. Tony Blair was Chief Brexiteer.. the Labour Party in all their puritanical stupidity started the ball rolling.
Now cmon mate.. that is amusing

What's rumplestitskin got to do with anything? Are you having a breakdown?

I guarantee that no matter what you and the rest of the brexiteers on here will never blame the tories, brexiteers, or the leave campaign for anything. The people who 'won' and are in charge.

This must be the only 'victory' that the winners don't want to take any credit for or responsibility.

And you will never blame labour for anything even if it smacks you In face with a EU kipper ! Its called poilitics and generally you either support one party or another and whatever party anyone supports they wont acknowledge the other parties success? Garauntee if there is a deal done you will come out with some garbage that you'll make up that doesn't acknowledge uk leaving EU with a deal which is what was promised... a no deal doesn't bare thinking about as we'll have your hysterical anguish for weeks on here...

Would have been quite happy if Dodgy Dave had come back with something decent.. instead he rolled over to EU inflexibility and here we are. There’ll be some issues, but long term quite happy to be rid.

Would have been quite happy if Dodgy Dave had come back with something decent.. instead he rolled over to EU inflexibility and here we are. There’ll be some issues, but long term quite happy to be rid.

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There was always going to be issues of some sort deal or no deal but in time it will sort itself out ! And we will be better off despite what some on here will tell you.

If the lefties hadn't tried to over turn the democratic vote brexit would have been all done and dusted by now ,instead it was dragged out way longer than it should have ,the EU thought they had us over a barrel cos Westminster was split ,if those MPs who tried to stop brexit respected the democratic vote and showed the EU we were all together it would all been over ages ago.

When were the 'lefties' in charge?
The beginning... No
Middle... No
Now... No

The conservatives have been in charge the entire time and have had a year with an overwhelming majority full of brexiteers to do their 'oven ready trade deal' and they are still f*cking it up.

Its the tories and brexiteers fault and no one else's. This is your 'victory' own it.

‘Own it’ Dear Lord. You need to grow up Josh, you’re making Rumpelstiltskin look good..

It all started with Blair, although you could argue he was a Tory.. the lefties in charge were the EU, but hopefully no more. Tony Blair was Chief Brexiteer.. the Labour Party in all their puritanical stupidity started the ball rolling.
Now cmon mate.. that is amusing

What's rumplestitskin got to do with anything? Are you having a breakdown?

I guarantee that no matter what you and the rest of the brexiteers on here will never blame the tories, brexiteers, or the leave campaign for anything. The people who 'won' and are in charge.

This must be the only 'victory' that the winners don't want to take any credit for or responsibility.

Many ordinary working class people (the people Labour used to stand up for but now despise) voted to leave.
I voted leave and Tory in last two elections but I blame Cameron, May and the rest of the Tory remainers for many of the problems we’ve had to overcome.
Unlike you I don’t have a particular political ideology so I vote pragmatically you on the other hand wrap yourself up in extreme Leftwing dogma, which coupled with your comical hatred of The Evil Tories blinds you to reality. Your man Corbyn, a long time critic of the EU, stated that theyd smash globalism, smash capitalism and smash the EU. Then he refused to back Leave. Do you agree (Bwhahahaha as if) Corbyn hindered the process and strengthened the EUs hand. Or what about the Lib Dems trying to overturn democracy. Naw it’s all the evil Tories fault.