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Beating Swansea is it that really important these days

Sat Dec 12, 2020 6:35 pm

When we played Swansea’s last season at the Cardiff city stadium I thought the atmosphere was quiet poor the build up to the game didn’t have the intensity of previous years has the the fixture at Cardiff just become another game the jacks always make a big deal of it more so when we go down there personally I can take it or leave it now I am delighted when we win all games and disappointed when we lose games no matter who we play don’t forget I come from port talbot and it’s in our faces every day where as the fans in Cardiff and valleys don’t have to see them until the next game

Re: Beating Swansea is it that really important these days

Sat Dec 12, 2020 8:37 pm

Yes it is Important I would gladly sacrifice the last 3 wins
For a win over the jacks .

Re: Beating Swansea is it that really important these days

Sat Dec 12, 2020 8:56 pm

I'd love to say it's just another 3 points... But judging by the shit mood I've been in all day, yes, yes it matters!!!

Re: Beating Swansea is it that really important these days

Sat Dec 12, 2020 9:56 pm

splott bluebird wrote:Yes it is Important I would gladly sacrifice the last 3 wins
For a win over the jacks .




No game is more important than winning 3 games on the trot even when its swansea! Yes its important but cant win them all and at end of day it's only 3 points at stake nothing more nothing less . :old:

Re: Beating Swansea is it that really important these days

Sat Dec 12, 2020 10:21 pm

pembroke allan wrote:
splott bluebird wrote:Yes it is Important I would gladly sacrifice the last 3 wins
For a win over the jacks .




No game is more important than winning 3 games on the trot even when its swansea! Yes its important but cant win them all and at end of day it's only 3 points at stake nothing more nothing less . :old:


Spot On Al :thumbup:

Re: Beating Swansea is it that really important these days

Sat Dec 12, 2020 10:42 pm

TopCat CCFC wrote:
pembroke allan wrote:
splott bluebird wrote:Yes it is Important I would gladly sacrifice the last 3 wins
For a win over the jacks .




No game is more important than winning 3 games on the trot even when its swansea! Yes its important but cant win them all and at end of day it's only 3 points at stake nothing more nothing less . :old:


Spot On Al :thumbup:


Ned I
Think it's my age and the argument about rivals.... I'm a Bristol are rivals not Swansea... so see it in different way to some on this board... yes its important we beat them but so is beating next team we play? some of the ott reactions on here makes you think world is ending! Today was a game to far for players..and shows the hysteria of losing to them theres not one post about Moores injury ?

Re: Beating Swansea is it that really important these days

Sun Dec 13, 2020 1:19 am

It means far more to the Swansea end but we can't say it's not important on the day...

Facebook awash today with 'Jacks' gloating (as they have a right to do after a win against their bigger rivals from their country's capital city) but some of the language used from people I know personally was absolutely shocking

Appreciate the immediate euphoria of the win but there are/should be limits and they were well crossed today; showing exactly what it means to them...pretty much everything!

Bluebird supporters clearly disappointed but a lot more balanced and accepting of a bad day at the office in a season of 46 (not one) games

Onwards, forwards and upwards! We can only affect the future; the past is exactly that! :ayatollah: :bluescarf: :bluebird:

Re: Beating Swansea is it that really important these days

Sun Dec 13, 2020 9:41 am

Strange before the game all the Cardiff fans say it is the big one the game we must win. Then after another poor performance suddenly every Cardiff fan say Bristol city is the big one.

Re: Beating Swansea is it that really important these days

Sun Dec 13, 2020 10:16 am

The most important game , is the next one !

Re: Beating Swansea is it that really important these days

Sun Dec 13, 2020 10:55 am

Felixstowe_jack wrote:Strange before the game all the Cardiff fans say it is the big one the game we must win. Then after another poor performance suddenly every Cardiff fan say Bristol city is the big one.




Not really take me for instance everytime this subject comes up I have always said Bristol was our rivals and its same for lots older fans as you know theres always been a history between our fans long before Swansea came into the picture same can be said with Newport and Hereford, musnt forget games between us were very rare in upto recent times so no rivalry was formed! have Swansea got history of club rivalry besides us? Think its become prominent since you went to premier league the younger element of our fanbase where envious of your club which is understandable...

Re: Beating Swansea is it that really important these days

Sun Dec 13, 2020 11:53 am

pembroke allan wrote:
Felixstowe_jack wrote:Strange before the game all the Cardiff fans say it is the big one the game we must win. Then after another poor performance suddenly every Cardiff fan say Bristol city is the big one.




Not really take me for instance everytime this subject comes up I have always said Bristol was our rivals and its same for lots older fans as you know theres always been a history between our fans long before Swansea came into the picture same can be said with Newport and Hereford, musnt forget games between us were very rare in upto recent times so no rivalry was formed! have Swansea got history of club rivalry besides us? Think its become prominent since you went to premier league the younger element of our fanbase where envious of your club which is understandable...

Ps just out of interest took look at matches vs Bristol lot more against city 30+ than you and surprisingly we've played rovers 4 games less than against you ! Only recall one game saw at vetch and one at liberty seen countless at city and rovers over the years.

Re: Beating Swansea is it that really important these days

Sun Dec 13, 2020 12:00 pm

The Jack's don't get it and never have.

Yes it's a South Wales Derby and yes it's important but they can't cope with the fact we don't put all our energy into hating them as they do us.

Let's be completely honest, apart from those that live in 'middle grounds', unlike most British Derby's most fans of Cardiff and Swansea never come into contact. The last time I met/spoke to a Swansea fan was over 4 years ago in France. We don't see each other in pubs, we don't work in the same offices, I won't see a Swansea fan to gloat, have banter with. What kind of 'Derby' is that?

Take out the previous violence that used to propel it into the media and its just another game and like Allan the Bristol game always hurts me more cos of the England/Wales part and the fact that loads of Wurzel and Cardiff fans work in each other City's so you come into contact with them a bit more.

I know this might seem controversial but I don't see how it's a proper Derby. We are as far apart as Wolverhampton is to Derby, Nottingham is to Sheffield etc

Re: Beating Swansea is it that really important these days

Sun Dec 13, 2020 12:41 pm

RV Casual wrote:The Jack's don't get it and never have.

Yes it's a South Wales Derby and yes it's important but they can't cope with the fact we don't put all our energy into hating them as they do us.

Let's be completely honest, apart from those that live in 'middle grounds', unlike most British Derby's most fans of Cardiff and Swansea never come into contact. The last time I met/spoke to a Swansea fan was over 4 years ago in France. We don't see each other in pubs, we don't work in the same offices, I won't see a Swansea fan to gloat, have banter with. What kind of 'Derby' is that?

Take out the previous violence that used to propel it into the media and its just another game and like Allan the Bristol game always hurts me more cos of the England/Wales part and the fact that loads of Wurzel and Cardiff fans work in each other City's so you come into contact with them a bit more.

I know this might seem controversial but I don't see how it's a proper Derby. We are as far apart as Wolverhampton is to Derby, Nottingham is to Sheffield etc



Your right about contact with Swansea fans I am in Swansea very regularly and only meet swans fans occasionally even though everyone one I meet are from Swansea area... and when do meet one there is no gloating about our clubs fortunes just debate about the clubs

Re: Beating Swansea is it that really important these days

Sun Dec 13, 2020 12:53 pm

RV Casual wrote:The Jack's don't get it and never have.

Yes it's a South Wales Derby and yes it's important but they can't cope with the fact we don't put all our energy into hating them as they do us.

Let's be completely honest, apart from those that live in 'middle grounds', unlike most British Derby's most fans of Cardiff and Swansea never come into contact. The last time I met/spoke to a Swansea fan was over 4 years ago in France. We don't see each other in pubs, we don't work in the same offices, I won't see a Swansea fan to gloat, have banter with. What kind of 'Derby' is that?

Take out the previous violence that used to propel it into the media and its just another game and like Allan the Bristol game always hurts me more cos of the England/Wales part and the fact that loads of Wurzel and Cardiff fans work in each other City's so you come into contact with them a bit more.

I know this might seem controversial but I don't see how it's a proper Derby. We are as far apart as Wolverhampton is to Derby, Nottingham is to Sheffield etc


It was only in their John Toshack era that the rivalry with Swansea really started. I agree, it’s not a proper Derby. Newport County would be more of a proper Derby, only a few miles between St Mellons and Dyffryn. They’ve rarely played at our level though.

Re: Beating Swansea is it that really important these days

Sun Dec 13, 2020 1:07 pm

Ray Bishop wrote:
RV Casual wrote:The Jack's don't get it and never have.

Yes it's a South Wales Derby and yes it's important but they can't cope with the fact we don't put all our energy into hating them as they do us.

Let's be completely honest, apart from those that live in 'middle grounds', unlike most British Derby's most fans of Cardiff and Swansea never come into contact. The last time I met/spoke to a Swansea fan was over 4 years ago in France. We don't see each other in pubs, we don't work in the same offices, I won't see a Swansea fan to gloat, have banter with. What kind of 'Derby' is that?

Take out the previous violence that used to propel it into the media and its just another game and like Allan the Bristol game always hurts me more cos of the England/Wales part and the fact that loads of Wurzel and Cardiff fans work in each other City's so you come into contact with them a bit more.

I know this might seem controversial but I don't see how it's a proper Derby. We are as far apart as Wolverhampton is to Derby, Nottingham is to Sheffield etc


It was only in their John Toshack era that the rivalry with Swansea really started. I agree, it’s not a proper Derby. Newport County would be more of a proper Derby, only a few miles between St Mellons and Dyffryn. They’ve rarely played at our level though.



its a much bigger game for them than ourselves simply because there is no one else to be their rivals...

Re: Beating Swansea is it that really important these days

Sun Dec 13, 2020 1:50 pm

I do find these kinds of threads funny, fair play :laughing6:

Re: Beating Swansea is it that really important these days

Sun Dec 13, 2020 2:02 pm

Doctor wrote:I do find these kinds of threads funny, fair play :laughing6:



You would but there again not surprising... just another example of your worthless contribution to this forum? One day you might contribute something worthwhile but wont hold breath.. :sad7:

Re: Beating Swansea is it that really important these days

Sun Dec 13, 2020 4:38 pm

Doctor wrote:I do find these kinds of threads funny, fair play :laughing6:


You can find them as funny as you like but nothing anyone has said is untrue and that hurts you and is why you felt the need to comment and why you will comment again.

There are no Swansea fans in my place of work, there are no Swansea fans in my town, there are no Swansea fans that drink in my local pub, I don't have any Swansea fans in my social circle. Proper Derby's are between two Club City's where family's/friend/work colleagues are split. Ours is plastic and as I said if you took out the he violence of the past the game has no edge, on our side anyway, proven by the atmosphere served up at the CCS in recent times, we can never match you on that regard as the venom isn't a two way street amongst the entire fan base.

No doubt you will come back with some bullshit but you can't run away from the facts forever

Re: Beating Swansea is it that really important these days

Sun Dec 13, 2020 8:53 pm

RV Casual wrote:
Doctor wrote:I do find these kinds of threads funny, fair play :laughing6:


You can find them as funny as you like but nothing anyone has said is untrue and that hurts you and is why you felt the need to comment and why you will comment again.

There are no Swansea fans in my place of work, there are no Swansea fans in my town, there are no Swansea fans that drink in my local pub, I don't have any Swansea fans in my social circle. Proper Derby's are between two Club City's where family's/friend/work colleagues are split. Ours is plastic and as I said if you took out the he violence of the past the game has no edge, on our side anyway, proven by the atmosphere served up at the CCS in recent times, we can never match you on that regard as the venom isn't a two way street amongst the entire fan base.

No doubt you will come back with some bullshit but you can't run away from the facts forever



Simply put swansea have one derby against us it's called south Wales derby! We have another two derbys sevenside (bristol) and southeast (Newport) so what's he's laughing at exactly got no idea... :laughing5: :laughing5:

Re: Beating Swansea is it that really important these days

Sun Dec 13, 2020 9:23 pm

Who are you lot trying to convince? :laughing6:

It’s fascinating to read, but bizarre in equal measures.

Re: Beating Swansea is it that really important these days

Mon Dec 14, 2020 3:51 pm

Felixstowe_jack wrote:Strange before the game all the Cardiff fans say it is the big one the game we must win. Then after another poor performance suddenly every Cardiff fan say Bristol city is the big one.



Hmmmmm! I think you will find,a lot of supporters in their mid to late 50's see bristol as our derby,and you come 2nd to them in importance of winning! Just as you are the 2nd biggest club in wales.

Re: Beating Swansea is it that really important these days

Mon Dec 14, 2020 3:54 pm

Doctor wrote:Who are you lot trying to convince? :laughing6:

It’s fascinating to read, but bizarre in equal measures.



As bizarre as you in equal measures but your certainly not fascinating.... :laughing6:

Re: Beating Swansea is it that really important these days

Mon Dec 14, 2020 4:43 pm

Can you imagine us v The Jacks in the play off final, now that would be squeaky bum time! The prospect of that fills me with dread.

Re: Beating Swansea is it that really important these days

Mon Dec 14, 2020 7:13 pm

TERRYB wrote:Can you imagine us v The Jacks in the play off final, now that would be squeaky bum time! The prospect of that fills me with dread.



That might liven it up a bit, especially at Wembley with fans allocation :thumbup:

Re: Beating Swansea is it that really important these days

Mon Dec 14, 2020 10:34 pm

bluesince62 wrote:
Felixstowe_jack wrote:Strange before the game all the Cardiff fans say it is the big one the game we must win. Then after another poor performance suddenly every Cardiff fan say Bristol city is the big one.



Hmmmmm! I think you will find,a lot of supporters in their mid to late 50's see bristol as our derby,and you come 2nd to them in importance of winning! Just as you are the 2nd biggest club in wales.


That’s the demographic that use message boards. I never see a mention of Bristol all year, barely a peep even when you play them... unless you have lost to us of course and everyone tries to convince themselves it doesn’t matter, then all of a sudden Bristol get mentioned for about a week until the pain subsides... then it’s back to Swansea threads again. :lol: