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Igovernor wrote:mm3260 Nobody is saying that there is no racism all around, but there needs to be a lot more done than taking the knee, which to me is a gimmick that sky and the premier league are promoting for their own greedy benefit.
When many very prominent black people are saying the same, and taking the knee should be stopped, surely that shows it up for what it is!
Tue Dec 08, 2020 11:57 am
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Tue Dec 08, 2020 2:58 pm
Escott1927 wrote:Still find it strange that the prem and EFL adopted the BLM campaign when they already had the kick it out campaign going for years. From what I can recall, KIO had gained a fair bit of media attention and you'd see quite a lot of coverage of the work they were doing in local communities. At a time when KIO could have really hammered home their message, they were completely forgotten about and replaced with BLM.
Tue Dec 08, 2020 5:32 pm
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Tue Dec 08, 2020 6:02 pm
Bakedalasker wrote:It should all be left out of sport.
Every club has every type of political persuasion supporting. Its the club that brings then all together where we all become united by supporting our team. Perhaps its this united time that stops us going to war against each other.
All this BLM stuff has done is dived the community we have created in the clubs around the country.
Tue Dec 08, 2020 6:09 pm
Tue Dec 08, 2020 6:58 pm
mm3260 wrote:This is the person who seems to guide your moral compass. A fine role model for many posters on this forum. I know i will be slated by the usual suspects but hey, i tell it like it is. I cannot tell you how being white feels because i'm not white. You can't tell me the consequences of being a black person if you are white because you don't know. Most Black people don't support BLM but the do cry out for equality. Anyhow back to the shining example that is Richard Littlejohn.
Death of Lucy Meadows
In December 2012, Littlejohn wrote an article criticising the decision of Accrington teacher Lucy Meadows to return to the same school after undergoing Gender Reassignment Surgery. Littlejohn repeatedly misgendered Meadows and stated: "he's not only trapped in the wrong body, he's in the wrong job".[19]
In March 2013, Meadows was found dead with police reporting no suspicious circumstance, suggesting suicide.[20] Littlejohn's article was later removed from the Daily Mail's website following Meadows' death.[19] Trans Media Watch, a charity for transgender people, said: "We are deeply saddened that this inquest should ever have been needed."[21] A petition drive was launched demanding Littlejohn be sacked.[19][22][23][24][25] Two petitions signed by over 240,000 people were handed over to the Daily Mail offices.[26]
At the inquest into her death on 28 May 2013, it was reported Meadows had contacted the Press Complaints Commission (PCC) over press harassment citing Littlejohn.[27] Blackburn and Hyndburn Coroner Michael Singleton stated that press coverage of her gender reassignment was "ill informed bigotry" and that Littlejohn in his article had "carried out what can only be described as a character assassination, having sought to ridicule and humiliate Lucy Meadows and bring into question her right to pursue her career as a teacher".[28]
Asian hopscotch lessons
In February 2011, Littlejohn wrote in his Daily Mail column that Haringey Council was using taxpayer funds for hopscotch lessons for Asian women. This was an urban myth first propagated in 1995 by the former Conservative Party chairman Brian Mawhinney, who took the name of the Hopscotch Asian Women's Centre literally. The centre offers "support services for Asian women and their families on a wide range of issues including domestic violence, benefits, housing, education, immigration and health matters [and provided] advocacy and support to people with learning disabilities".[3]
Jack Monroe
Littlejohn was accused[4] of taking insufficient care to check the facts before publishing an article critical of cookery writer and poverty campaigner Jack Monroe. Littlejohn suggested that Monroe, who prefers the singular they pronoun, chose to give up their job. Monroe's young son was unsettled with a range of different carers. As Monroe had grown up in a home with foster children, they are aware of the potential for harming him. Monroe tried unsuccessfully to negotiate flexible hours so they could work and look after their baby, but gave up their job so they could look after the child better.[29] Littlejohn incorrectly suggested that Monroe was an unemployed welfare claimant.[30][31]
Attitude toward homosexuality
In 2004, the Diary column of The Guardian newspaper documented the results of a "Littlejohn audit"[32]—a count of the number of references Littlejohn makes to homosexuality in his columns. Marina Hyde of The Guardian noted in 2004:
In the past year's Sun columns, Richard has referred 42 times to gays, 16 times to lesbians, 15 to homosexuals, eight to bisexuals, twice to 'homophobia' and six to being "homophobic" (note his inverted commas), five times to cottaging, four to "gay sex in public toilets", three to poofs, twice to lesbianism, and once each to buggery, dykery, and poovery. This amounts to 104 references in 90-odd columns – an impressive increase on his 2003 total of 82 mentions.[32]
Disabled protester
In December 2010, Littlejohn satirised[33] an incident in which a 20-year-old man with cerebral palsy, Jody McIntyre, complained of mistreatment by police at a protest. Littlejohn argued that the young man involved should not have attended the protest, and compared him to Andy Pipkin from Little Britain.[33][34] This prompted 500 complaints to the Press Complaints Commission.[34]
Ethnic minority jobs
In December 2012, the Daily Mail published an apology following a piece written by Littlejohn which suggested that ethnic minority staff had got their jobs through discrimination and had threatened to sue the Equality and Human Rights Commissions. The Daily Mail agreed with the Press Complaints Council to publish an apology and clarification.[35]
Tom Daley
On 15 February 2018, Littlejohn, writing for his Daily Mail column, focused on the news that Tom Daley and his husband Dustin Lance Black were expecting their first child. Littlejohn stated that while he supported fostered children being brought up by loving, gay partners, as opposed to living in state institutions, he nonetheless adhered to his belief that children "benefit most from being raised by a man and a woman". He also criticised that in many cases of male gay relationships, Daley and Black included, women were being seen as "mere breeding machines" (their baby's surrogate mother not having been identified) and that offspring were shown off like "commodities".
Littlejohn came under widespread criticism for his comments, with many[who?] accusing him of homophobia. As a result, Center Parcs announced its decision to cease publication of its advertisements in the Daily Mail, with a number of other businesses also reviewing their decision to advertise in the newspaper.[5][36]
Bye Bye again
Tue Dec 08, 2020 7:28 pm
blue lagoon wrote:Perhaps its good to raise important issues. This poor person was bullied for dressing like this in ARSENAL game.
Educatio,education.
Tue Dec 08, 2020 7:35 pm
blue lagoon wrote:Perhaps its good to raise important issues. This poor person was bullied for dressing like this in ARSENAL game.
Educatio,education.
Tue Dec 08, 2020 9:53 pm
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Wed Dec 09, 2020 11:14 am
mm3260 wrote:I cannot tell you how being white feels because i'm not white. You can't tell me the consequences of being a black person if you are white because you don't know.
Wed Dec 09, 2020 12:09 pm
ealing_ayatollah wrote:mm3260 wrote:I cannot tell you how being white feels because i'm not white. You can't tell me the consequences of being a black person if you are white because you don't know.
This line of thinking just saddens me so much, because it only leads to one place and that is a dark place from our past that we have long ago moved on from, yet we are embracing a divisive and poisonous ideology that is taking us back there.
We've already seen segregation returning in the States in the guise of woke safe spaces.
Harvard holding a Black only graduation ceremony https://www.independent.co.uk/news/worl ... 30686.html
White students being asked to leave black only spaces https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-51506733
and it was only a matter of time before white only spaces occurred in response https://www.foxnews.com/us/university-u ... hite-awake
and in Califonia the motion to repeal race segregation laws in place was put forward https://www.manhattan-institute.org/cal ... s-prop-209
All in the name of equality. All in line with the premise that I as a white man cannot understand you as a black man, and you as a black man cannot understand me as a white man. The road to hell truly is paved with good intentions.
To paraphrase Morgan Freeman, I’m going to stop calling you a black man. And I’m going to ask you to stop calling me a white man. I'll know you as a man, you know me as a man, with shared experiences of being human.
Watch the following video, where 1,000 people who had never met before took part at a special event at the Tower of David in Jerusalem, to sing one song, in three languages and in three-part vocal harmony, which took them less than an hour to learn.
Then tell me that the human race is better divided, focused on our differences instead of coming together and focusing on the much bigger commonalities we all share as part of this fragile, yet strangely wonderful, inventive and beautiful thing we call the human race.
I'm so tired of all the division. It's not what we're supposed to be.![]()
Wed Dec 09, 2020 12:51 pm
skidemin wrote:Escott1927 wrote:Still find it strange that the prem and EFL adopted the BLM campaign when they already had the kick it out campaign going for years. From what I can recall, KIO had gained a fair bit of media attention and you'd see quite a lot of coverage of the work they were doing in local communities. At a time when KIO could have really hammered home their message, they were completely forgotten about and replaced with BLM.
same here, i dont recall anyone booing kick it out... but there again they didnt go around burning flags, attacking the police and defacing monuments
Wed Dec 09, 2020 1:02 pm
Forever Blue wrote:Millwall players did not take the knee tonight / but some QPR players did
Wed Dec 09, 2020 2:27 pm
nubbsy wrote:skidemin wrote:Escott1927 wrote:Still find it strange that the prem and EFL adopted the BLM campaign when they already had the kick it out campaign going for years. From what I can recall, KIO had gained a fair bit of media attention and you'd see quite a lot of coverage of the work they were doing in local communities. At a time when KIO could have really hammered home their message, they were completely forgotten about and replaced with BLM.
same here, i dont recall anyone booing kick it out... but there again they didnt go around burning flags, attacking the police and defacing monuments
Spot on. BLM is a violent far left political regime. I will never support them and I don't want them anywhere near my football club.
Kick it out have my full support and have done alot of great work in football.
Wed Dec 09, 2020 10:40 pm
Forever Blue wrote:Millwall players did not take the knee tonight / but some QPR players did
Thu Dec 10, 2020 2:58 pm
Bobby banks wrote:mm3260 wrote:This is the person who seems to guide your moral compass. A fine role model for many posters on this forum. I know i will be slated by the usual suspects but hey, i tell it like it is. I cannot tell you how being white feels because i'm not white. You can't tell me the consequences of being a black person if you are white because you don't know. Most Black people don't support BLM but the do cry out for equality. Anyhow back to the shining example that is Richard Littlejohn.
Death of Lucy Meadows
In December 2012, Littlejohn wrote an article criticising the decision of Accrington teacher Lucy Meadows to return to the same school after undergoing Gender Reassignment Surgery. Littlejohn repeatedly misgendered Meadows and stated: "he's not only trapped in the wrong body, he's in the wrong job".[19]
In March 2013, Meadows was found dead with police reporting no suspicious circumstance, suggesting suicide.[20] Littlejohn's article was later removed from the Daily Mail's website following Meadows' death.[19] Trans Media Watch, a charity for transgender people, said: "We are deeply saddened that this inquest should ever have been needed."[21] A petition drive was launched demanding Littlejohn be sacked.[19][22][23][24][25] Two petitions signed by over 240,000 people were handed over to the Daily Mail offices.[26]
At the inquest into her death on 28 May 2013, it was reported Meadows had contacted the Press Complaints Commission (PCC) over press harassment citing Littlejohn.[27] Blackburn and Hyndburn Coroner Michael Singleton stated that press coverage of her gender reassignment was "ill informed bigotry" and that Littlejohn in his article had "carried out what can only be described as a character assassination, having sought to ridicule and humiliate Lucy Meadows and bring into question her right to pursue her career as a teacher".[28]
Asian hopscotch lessons
In February 2011, Littlejohn wrote in his Daily Mail column that Haringey Council was using taxpayer funds for hopscotch lessons for Asian women. This was an urban myth first propagated in 1995 by the former Conservative Party chairman Brian Mawhinney, who took the name of the Hopscotch Asian Women's Centre literally. The centre offers "support services for Asian women and their families on a wide range of issues including domestic violence, benefits, housing, education, immigration and health matters [and provided] advocacy and support to people with learning disabilities".[3]
Jack Monroe
Littlejohn was accused[4] of taking insufficient care to check the facts before publishing an article critical of cookery writer and poverty campaigner Jack Monroe. Littlejohn suggested that Monroe, who prefers the singular they pronoun, chose to give up their job. Monroe's young son was unsettled with a range of different carers. As Monroe had grown up in a home with foster children, they are aware of the potential for harming him. Monroe tried unsuccessfully to negotiate flexible hours so they could work and look after their baby, but gave up their job so they could look after the child better.[29] Littlejohn incorrectly suggested that Monroe was an unemployed welfare claimant.[30][31]
Attitude toward homosexuality
In 2004, the Diary column of The Guardian newspaper documented the results of a "Littlejohn audit"[32]—a count of the number of references Littlejohn makes to homosexuality in his columns. Marina Hyde of The Guardian noted in 2004:
In the past year's Sun columns, Richard has referred 42 times to gays, 16 times to lesbians, 15 to homosexuals, eight to bisexuals, twice to 'homophobia' and six to being "homophobic" (note his inverted commas), five times to cottaging, four to "gay sex in public toilets", three to poofs, twice to lesbianism, and once each to buggery, dykery, and poovery. This amounts to 104 references in 90-odd columns – an impressive increase on his 2003 total of 82 mentions.[32]
Disabled protester
In December 2010, Littlejohn satirised[33] an incident in which a 20-year-old man with cerebral palsy, Jody McIntyre, complained of mistreatment by police at a protest. Littlejohn argued that the young man involved should not have attended the protest, and compared him to Andy Pipkin from Little Britain.[33][34] This prompted 500 complaints to the Press Complaints Commission.[34]
Ethnic minority jobs
In December 2012, the Daily Mail published an apology following a piece written by Littlejohn which suggested that ethnic minority staff had got their jobs through discrimination and had threatened to sue the Equality and Human Rights Commissions. The Daily Mail agreed with the Press Complaints Council to publish an apology and clarification.[35]
Tom Daley
On 15 February 2018, Littlejohn, writing for his Daily Mail column, focused on the news that Tom Daley and his husband Dustin Lance Black were expecting their first child. Littlejohn stated that while he supported fostered children being brought up by loving, gay partners, as opposed to living in state institutions, he nonetheless adhered to his belief that children "benefit most from being raised by a man and a woman". He also criticised that in many cases of male gay relationships, Daley and Black included, women were being seen as "mere breeding machines" (their baby's surrogate mother not having been identified) and that offspring were shown off like "commodities".
Littlejohn came under widespread criticism for his comments, with many[who?] accusing him of homophobia. As a result, Center Parcs announced its decision to cease publication of its advertisements in the Daily Mail, with a number of other businesses also reviewing their decision to advertise in the newspaper.[5][36]
Bye Bye again
Well written, well said. If people hang on the words of media idiots like Richard Littlejohn then they must have a very blinkered and unhealthy view of the world.
Thu Dec 10, 2020 7:54 pm
Jock wrote:Bobby banks wrote:mm3260 wrote:This is the person who seems to guide your moral compass. A fine role model for many posters on this forum. I know i will be slated by the usual suspects but hey, i tell it like it is. I cannot tell you how being white feels because i'm not white. You can't tell me the consequences of being a black person if you are white because you don't know. Most Black people don't support BLM but the do cry out for equality. Anyhow back to the shining example that is Richard Littlejohn.
Death of Lucy Meadows
In December 2012, Littlejohn wrote an article criticising the decision of Accrington teacher Lucy Meadows to return to the same school after undergoing Gender Reassignment Surgery. Littlejohn repeatedly misgendered Meadows and stated: "he's not only trapped in the wrong body, he's in the wrong job".[19]
In March 2013, Meadows was found dead with police reporting no suspicious circumstance, suggesting suicide.[20] Littlejohn's article was later removed from the Daily Mail's website following Meadows' death.[19] Trans Media Watch, a charity for transgender people, said: "We are deeply saddened that this inquest should ever have been needed."[21] A petition drive was launched demanding Littlejohn be sacked.[19][22][23][24][25] Two petitions signed by over 240,000 people were handed over to the Daily Mail offices.[26]
At the inquest into her death on 28 May 2013, it was reported Meadows had contacted the Press Complaints Commission (PCC) over press harassment citing Littlejohn.[27] Blackburn and Hyndburn Coroner Michael Singleton stated that press coverage of her gender reassignment was "ill informed bigotry" and that Littlejohn in his article had "carried out what can only be described as a character assassination, having sought to ridicule and humiliate Lucy Meadows and bring into question her right to pursue her career as a teacher".[28]
Asian hopscotch lessons
In February 2011, Littlejohn wrote in his Daily Mail column that Haringey Council was using taxpayer funds for hopscotch lessons for Asian women. This was an urban myth first propagated in 1995 by the former Conservative Party chairman Brian Mawhinney, who took the name of the Hopscotch Asian Women's Centre literally. The centre offers "support services for Asian women and their families on a wide range of issues including domestic violence, benefits, housing, education, immigration and health matters [and provided] advocacy and support to people with learning disabilities".[3]
Jack Monroe
Littlejohn was accused[4] of taking insufficient care to check the facts before publishing an article critical of cookery writer and poverty campaigner Jack Monroe. Littlejohn suggested that Monroe, who prefers the singular they pronoun, chose to give up their job. Monroe's young son was unsettled with a range of different carers. As Monroe had grown up in a home with foster children, they are aware of the potential for harming him. Monroe tried unsuccessfully to negotiate flexible hours so they could work and look after their baby, but gave up their job so they could look after the child better.[29] Littlejohn incorrectly suggested that Monroe was an unemployed welfare claimant.[30][31]
Attitude toward homosexuality
In 2004, the Diary column of The Guardian newspaper documented the results of a "Littlejohn audit"[32]—a count of the number of references Littlejohn makes to homosexuality in his columns. Marina Hyde of The Guardian noted in 2004:
In the past year's Sun columns, Richard has referred 42 times to gays, 16 times to lesbians, 15 to homosexuals, eight to bisexuals, twice to 'homophobia' and six to being "homophobic" (note his inverted commas), five times to cottaging, four to "gay sex in public toilets", three to poofs, twice to lesbianism, and once each to buggery, dykery, and poovery. This amounts to 104 references in 90-odd columns – an impressive increase on his 2003 total of 82 mentions.[32]
Disabled protester
In December 2010, Littlejohn satirised[33] an incident in which a 20-year-old man with cerebral palsy, Jody McIntyre, complained of mistreatment by police at a protest. Littlejohn argued that the young man involved should not have attended the protest, and compared him to Andy Pipkin from Little Britain.[33][34] This prompted 500 complaints to the Press Complaints Commission.[34]
Ethnic minority jobs
In December 2012, the Daily Mail published an apology following a piece written by Littlejohn which suggested that ethnic minority staff had got their jobs through discrimination and had threatened to sue the Equality and Human Rights Commissions. The Daily Mail agreed with the Press Complaints Council to publish an apology and clarification.[35]
Tom Daley
On 15 February 2018, Littlejohn, writing for his Daily Mail column, focused on the news that Tom Daley and his husband Dustin Lance Black were expecting their first child. Littlejohn stated that while he supported fostered children being brought up by loving, gay partners, as opposed to living in state institutions, he nonetheless adhered to his belief that children "benefit most from being raised by a man and a woman". He also criticised that in many cases of male gay relationships, Daley and Black included, women were being seen as "mere breeding machines" (their baby's surrogate mother not having been identified) and that offspring were shown off like "commodities".
Littlejohn came under widespread criticism for his comments, with many[who?] accusing him of homophobia. As a result, Center Parcs announced its decision to cease publication of its advertisements in the Daily Mail, with a number of other businesses also reviewing their decision to advertise in the newspaper.[5][36]
Bye Bye again
Well written, well said. If people hang on the words of media idiots like Richard Littlejohn then they must have a very blinkered and unhealthy view of the world.
No more slanted than those who believe Guardian editorials.