If people in wales

Are not happy with the new restrictions put on us by Welsh labour it's simple don't vote them back in ,in the next election,

Are not happy with the new restrictions put on us by Welsh labour it's simple don't vote them back in ,in the next election,

That would be great but can see it now the election battle cry! Drakeford saved Wales in covid pandemic... one thing that has been missed is drakeford makes these decisions without consulting the A.Ms..
Banned from 100 pubs for anti social behaviour!

Vote plaid at least they put wales first dripford is just a mouthpiece for starmer and a labour experiment and we always have been as far as westminster is concerned that bit stuck out on the west coast of uk
They don' t have a lot of time for there own even cornwall the north etc this pandemic has thrown up divisions in england
The westminster government has always been 20 years ahead in there thinking they new the scotish oil fields and welsh coal would be running out so give them devolution before it does and they can now look after themselves
you wanted devolution
But they have made sure they own most of the water in wales again they are ahead of the game and wales only natural resourse worth anything is owned by westminster goverment

Vote plaid at least they put wales first dripford is just a mouthpiece for starmer and a labour experiment and we always have been as far as westminster is concerned that bit stuck out on the west coast of uk
They don' t have a lot of time for there own even cornwall the north etc this pandemic has thrown up divisions in england
The westminster government has always been 20 years ahead in there thinking they new the scotish oil fields and welsh coal would be running out so give them devolution before it does and they can now look after themselves
you wanted devolution
But they have made sure they own most of the water in wales again they are ahead of the game and wales only natural resourse worth anything is owned by westminster goverment

Sorry Monty as I know that you are living in the same area as me and their ain't many of us Bluebirds up here but in my experience PLAID CYMRU (The party of Wales) Do not put the people of Wales first.

During the early part of the covid19 pandemic in March 2020, I wrote personal emails to my local MS and all the 5 regional MS's asking for support to change Drakefords mind and include, cleaners, cooks, etc , who work within Care homes alongside carers (as they all work in the same building, etc) as his Labour Government in Wales had stated that only CARERS would receive the £500 Payment for hard work and dedication. Eventually changing his mind.

I sent these emails asking for the MS to support this and Bring it up in debate in the Sennedd.

These were: 1 conservative, 1 UKIP, 2 Labour, 2 Plaid Cymru MS's

The Conservative replied to me and agreed and Brought it up with ministers, as did the UKIP MS. Both Labour MS's replied but as you would expect did not wish to comment on Mr Drakeford. The two Plaid Cymru MS's (Helen Mary Jones MS and Elin Jones MS presiding officer) did not even reply to my personal email. I was very annoyed at this and wrote another email to Adam Price MS and leader of Plaid Cymru pointing out the fact that both Plaid Cymru MS's had not even bothered to reply to one of their constituents ? Guess what - still awaiting Mr Prices email after 5 months ? Don't think that it is forthcoming somehow.

So as far as Plaid Cymru looking after the people of wales is concerned - not in my experience !

Vote plaid at least they put wales first dripford is just a mouthpiece for starmer and a labour experiment and we always have been as far as westminster is concerned that bit stuck out on the west coast of uk
They don' t have a lot of time for there own even cornwall the north etc this pandemic has thrown up divisions in england
The westminster government has always been 20 years ahead in there thinking they new the scotish oil fields and welsh coal would be running out so give them devolution before it does and they can now look after themselves
you wanted devolution
But they have made sure they own most of the water in wales again they are ahead of the game and wales only natural resourse worth anything is owned by westminster goverment

Sorry Monty as I know that you are living in the same area as me and their ain't many of us Bluebirds up here but in my experience PLAID CYMRU (The party of Wales) Do not put the people of Wales first.

During the early part of the covid19 pandemic in March 2020, I wrote personal emails to my local MS and all the 5 regional MS's asking for support to change Drakefords mind and include, cleaners, cooks, etc , who work within Care homes alongside carers (as they all work in the same building, etc) as his Labour Government in Wales had stated that only CARERS would receive the £500 Payment for hard work and dedication. Eventually changing his mind.

I sent these emails asking for the MS to support this and Bring it up in debate in the Sennedd.

These were: 1 conservative, 1 UKIP, 2 Labour, 2 Plaid Cymru MS's

The Conservative replied to me and agreed and Brought it up with ministers, as did the UKIP MS. Both Labour MS's replied but as you would expect did not wish to comment on Mr Drakeford. The two Plaid Cymru MS's (Helen Mary Jones MS and Elin Jones MS presiding officer) did not even reply to my personal email. I was very annoyed at this and wrote another email to Adam Price MS and leader of Plaid Cymru pointing out the fact that both Plaid Cymru MS's had not even bothered to reply to one of their constituents ? Guess what - still awaiting Mr Prices email after 5 months ? Don't think that it is forthcoming somehow.

So as far as Plaid Cymru looking after the people of wales is concerned - not in my experience !

It would probably be fairer to say that Plaid tend to represent the welsh speaking people of Wales. I would dare to say that if you had written your email in welsh you would probably have had a reply.

The ONLy vote should one that gets rid of this (effective) regional politics (in our case WAG) in a country that this pandemic has (for me) proven we are better off together than apart

EU is different; as we still have the waterway border between us!

The ONLy vote should one that gets rid of this (effective) regional politics (in our case WAG) in a country that this pandemic has (for me) proven we are better off together than apart

EU is different; as we still have the waterway border between us!

i agree... but ive heard a lot of people saying Drakeford has done a good job
to me he has just tinkered, and try to point score just to be different... the drinking while eating in pubs thing { which effects me very little } is insane and a very good example of doing something just to be seen to be doing something...

The ONLy vote should one that gets rid of this (effective) regional politics (in our case WAG) in a country that this pandemic has (for me) proven we are better off together than apart

EU is different; as we still have the waterway border between us!

The UK government has been one of the worst performing governments regarding coronavirus. Totally unprepared with inadequate stocks of PPE resulting in paying TEN BILLION POUNDS over the odds to buy it in at extortionate world prices. Wasting hundreds of millions of pounds on masks that couldn't be used as they didn't meet the necessary standards. I believe it was that deal that had the stench of cronyism all over it too. A totally pathetic track and trace system which was supposed to be world beating. Among the highest death rates per head of population. Government ministers too chicken to front up on Good Morning Britain as they knew Piers Morgan would tear them apart. Failing to stop flights from virus hotspots into the UK resulting in thousands and thousands of infections being brought into the country and spreading into our population. There's loads more too. Personally I think they are a bunch of self serving useless tools. So for me it's definitely not a case of better off together. Up the City

Every country struggled to get PPE ,they just grabbed what they could as quick as they could because it was in high demand and people were dying ,and to go from zero to setting up a national track and trace and testing system can't be done over night, people got to be trained up to take blood samples etc , it's a virus you can't predict the next step and anyone who says you can is lying ,or are political points scoring , have you just looked at the news with Italy ,we are far better off and not hiding real numbers like other countries.

Please don't bring politics onto a football forum.

Every country struggled to get PPE ,they just grabbed what they could as quick as they could because it was in high demand and people were dying ,and to go from zero to setting up a national track and trace and testing system can't be done over night, people got to be trained up to take blood samples etc , it's a virus you can't predict the next step and anyone who says you can is lying ,or are political points scoring , have you just looked at the news with Italy ,we are far better off and not hiding real numbers like other countries.

A civilised and advanced country like the uk should have had the PPE already in stock...then we wouldn't have had to scrambled around paying way over the odds.

Every country struggled to get PPE ,they just grabbed what they could as quick as they could because it was in high demand and people were dying ,and to go from zero to setting up a national track and trace and testing system can't be done over night, people got to be trained up to take blood samples etc , it's a virus you can't predict the next step and anyone who says you can is lying ,or are political points scoring , have you just looked at the news with Italy ,we are far better off and not hiding real numbers like other countries.

A civilised and advanced country like the uk should have had the PPE already in stock...then we wouldn't have had to scrambled around paying way over the odds.

Exactly what the pilot exercise concluded a few years ago. It was the Tory government at the time that failed to act on the recommendations and maintain an adequate supply. When people say we should not vote Labour back in next time, they seem to forget what the implications of Tory inaction were in the first place.

Every country struggled to get PPE ,they just grabbed what they could as quick as they could because it was in high demand and people were dying ,and to go from zero to setting up a national track and trace and testing system can't be done over night, people got to be trained up to take blood samples etc , it's a virus you can't predict the next step and anyone who says you can is lying ,or are political points scoring , have you just looked at the news with Italy ,we are far better off and not hiding real numbers like other countries.

A civilised and advanced country like the uk should have had the PPE already in stock...then we wouldn't have had to scrambled around paying way over the odds.

Exactly what the pilot exercise concluded a few years ago. It was the Tory government at the time that failed to act on the recommendations and maintain an adequate supply. When people say we should not vote Labour back in next time, they seem to forget what the implications of Tory inaction were in the first place.

The pilot exercise by the NHS in England? Yes they failed.

Did the Labour run NHS in Wales run one too?

Every country struggled to get PPE ,they just grabbed what they could as quick as they could because it was in high demand and people were dying ,and to go from zero to setting up a national track and trace and testing system can't be done over night, people got to be trained up to take blood samples etc , it's a virus you can't predict the next step and anyone who says you can is lying ,or are political points scoring , have you just looked at the news with Italy ,we are far better off and not hiding real numbers like other countries.

A civilised and advanced country like the uk should have had the PPE already in stock...then we wouldn't have had to scrambled around paying way over the odds.

Exactly what the pilot exercise concluded a few years ago. It was the Tory government at the time that failed to act on the recommendations and maintain an adequate supply. When people say we should not vote Labour back in next time, they seem to forget what the implications of Tory inaction were in the first place.

The pilot exercise by the NHS in England? Yes they failed.

Did the Labour run NHS in Wales run one too?

They didn't need to because they were involved in Exercise Cygnus in 2016 aswell

Every country struggled to get PPE ,they just grabbed what they could as quick as they could because it was in high demand and people were dying ,and to go from zero to setting up a national track and trace and testing system can't be done over night, people got to be trained up to take blood samples etc , it's a virus you can't predict the next step and anyone who says you can is lying ,or are political points scoring , have you just looked at the news with Italy ,we are far better off and not hiding real numbers like other countries.

A civilised and advanced country like the uk should have had the PPE already in stock...then we wouldn't have had to scrambled around paying way over the odds.

Exactly what the pilot exercise concluded a few years ago. It was the Tory government at the time that failed to act on the recommendations and maintain an adequate supply. When people say we should not vote Labour back in next time, they seem to forget what the implications of Tory inaction were in the first place.

The pilot exercise by the NHS in England? Yes they failed.

Did the Labour run NHS in Wales run one too?

They didn't need to because they were involved in Exercise Cygnus in 2016 aswell

Oh. So also responsible for the lack of PPE. Thanks for clearing that up.

The ONLy vote should one that gets rid of this (effective) regional politics (in our case WAG) in a country that this pandemic has (for me) proven we are better off together than apart

EU is different; as we still have the waterway border between us!

The UK government has been one of the worst performing governments regarding coronavirus. Totally unprepared with inadequate stocks of PPE resulting in paying TEN BILLION POUNDS over the odds to buy it in at extortionate world prices. Wasting hundreds of millions of pounds on masks that couldn't be used as they didn't meet the necessary standards. I believe it was that deal that had the stench of cronyism all over it too. A totally pathetic track and trace system which was supposed to be world beating. Among the highest death rates per head of population. Government ministers too chicken to front up on Good Morning Britain as they knew Piers Morgan would tear them apart. Failing to stop flights from virus hotspots into the UK resulting in thousands and thousands of infections being brought into the country and spreading into our population. There's loads more too. Personally I think they are a bunch of self serving useless tools. So for me it's definitely not a case of better off together. Up the City

no doubt there will be an enquiry .. but have to say over the odds means you can buy it cheaper elsewhere.... not you could buy it cheaper last year or the year before... most countries scouring the world to make up for shortages ...and it was most countries ....were faced with these new inflated prices.... and anyone who says it was hunky dory in all the other advanced civilised countries either wasnt paying attention.. or just hopes others were not ...
the prices did not increase 10 fold and more because 1 country was short...

I got to laugh at people saying the UK should have had warehouses full of PPE just sitting there in case ,the first thing what would happen when an election came up would be oh you wasted all that money on PPE that is not being used just sitting there when you could have spent the money on other things ,just like I could say why did labour spend 147 million on the M4 relief road study when that money could be spent on other things ,

Messed up big time calling for 2 week fire break just to score political points ,and so doing so Welsh labour followed ,it hasn't worked now Wales got the highest rates in the UK fact ,so now all the pub's and restaurants are going to struggle and go out of business thanks captain hindsight.

I got to laugh at people saying the UK should have had warehouses full of PPE just sitting there in case ,the first thing what would happen when an election came up would be oh you wasted all that money on PPE that is not being used just sitting there when you could have spent the money on other things ,just like I could say why did labour spend 147 million on the M4 relief road study when that money could be spent on other things ,

a few articles on PPE shortage ....from China buying up every piece they could get their hands on before it hit Europe... to France burning over a billion masks that they thought they did not need ...to German doctors doing a nude PPE protest to pretty much everyone scrambling to buy the now price inflated gear....

https://www.independent.co.uk/news/heal ... 35891.html

https://punchng.com/covid-19-health-wor ... -in-spain/

https://www.fr24news.com/a/2020/05/fran ... e-sun.html

https://time.com/5823983/coronavirus-ppe-shortage/

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2020/ ... -shortages

https://www.express.co.uk/news/world/13 ... ort-export




but it was our government

Messed up big time calling for 2 week fire break just to score political points ,and so doing so Welsh labour followed ,it hasn't worked now Wales got the highest rates in the UK fact ,so now all the pub's and restaurants are going to struggle and go out of business thanks captain hindsight.

So England going into a month long lockdown must make the tories twice as bad.

No it doesn't they just picked s better time to do a lockdown, come on be fair the reason Wales went into lockdown was because starmer was criticizing the government for not doing it when he wanted to do it would have been hypocritical if Wales labour didn't do it , politics should he been left out of this virus ,but they just can't help themselves.

Vote plaid at least they put wales first dripford is just a mouthpiece for starmer and a labour experiment and we always have been as far as westminster is concerned that bit stuck out on the west coast of uk
They don' t have a lot of time for there own even cornwall the north etc this pandemic has thrown up divisions in england
The westminster government has always been 20 years ahead in there thinking they new the scotish oil fields and welsh coal would be running out so give them devolution before it does and they can now look after themselves
you wanted devolution
But they have made sure they own most of the water in wales again they are ahead of the game and wales only natural resourse worth anything is owned by westminster goverment

plaid are morons anyone who thinks they are the solution are insane

No it doesn't they just picked s better time to do a lockdown, come on be fair the reason Wales went into lockdown was because starmer was criticizing the government for not doing it when he wanted to do it would have been hypocritical if Wales labour didn't do it , politics should he been left out of this virus ,but they just can't help themselves.

abstaining ffs. and if there had not been a tory revolt they would have voted against whether they thought it right or not...