THE COVID-19 VACCINE: WILL YOU HAVE ONE?

Be quite interested to see the numbers.



I for one will be.

might end up being blackmailed into it...
but otherwise..no

As soon as I possibly can - whether we agree with it or not, airlines etc are going to insist you show you have had it before they let you on board. My life currently depends on being able to travel, so even if I don't want it, I won't have much choice.

I dont understand why someone, especially if they're vulnerable or live with someone who's vulnerable, wouldn't have it.

Yes but it might not reach us hear in mid wales and we usually have to travel across the border to shrewsbury hospital so with the border issues lately they may say welsh stay out of england. Ha

might end up being blackmailed into it...
but otherwise..no

changing your tune quickly, for months its been no chance, and people are scared who want a virus

I'm glad you've seen the light

HTV news says at present survey results show
67% of people are sensible and will listen to medical experts
23% won't
Women and ethnic minorities are less likely to have it?

It's yes for me they only have to say "Roll your sleeve up or bend over" and they can get on with it.

I will never understand why someone would say No after all covid19 is with us now and like say measles will be with us for decades to come. Vaccines don't cure they just stop you getting ill, or for some with covid seriously ill. Sometime next year the world will open up again and the virus will move around the globe again. In those circumstances the more people vaccinated the better.

Be quite interested to see the numbers.



I for one will be.

Of course, I will, why wouldn't anybody have it?

I don't believe in internet conspiracies or the loch ness monster

HTV news says at present survey results show
67% of people are sensible and will listen to medical experts
23% won't
Women and ethnic minorities are less likely to have it?

96% of people had no side effects

Certainly I will after listening to the Welsh Health Minister at 12.15 today.
Firstly, it will not be compulsory to have the vaccine.
Secondly, he gave a reassurance that you will not require to have the vaccine to enter hospitality etc in future, but it is highly recommended to have it. ( I assume this will extend to all forms of leisure such as football matches)
Thirdly, there will be no charge to have the vaccine.
Finally and most importantly, it appears to be as safe to take the vaccine as we could wish for. Just a small chance of a sore arm or a slight temperature for a short while.
As a 60 year old carer for my 95 year old dad, it's a 'no brainer' for me.

Whether you choose to have the vaccine or not, we must all agree that we want to see the end of coronavirus in the community and all the restrictions it has resulted in. I believe the vaccine is the quickest way back to normal life and our return back to Cardiff City stadium to watch the Bluebirds again!

might end up being blackmailed into it...
but otherwise..no

changing your tune quickly, for months its been no chance, and people are scared who want a virus

I'm glad you've seen the light

not changing my tune at all mate..... simultaneous testing.....the effects on 60 people for one month does not in way reproduce the effects for 1 person over 5 years..... its why its not been allowed previously and as well as being illegal is stupid..

might end up being blackmailed into it...
but otherwise..no

Just asking but are personal and social responsibilities not enough?

You may, of course, have a valid reason not to have it (I know some have) but your tune does appear to have changed a few notes now it's getting closer to Jab Day

I'm having one because a reliable facebook/twitter source told me it makes you 10yrs younger.

As I've said all along, I'll quietly hang around at the back of the queue and let all you eager beavers go first.

If your arms don't fall off, I might consider it, but certainly not going to be first in line.

Announcement on non mandatory is a positive though

My position has always been it should be a personal choice just like believing a pleisosaur could be living in the depths of a deep Scottish lake.

might end up being blackmailed into it...
but otherwise..no

Just asking but are personal and social responsibilities not enough?

You may, of course, have a valid reason not to have it (I know some have) but your tune does appear to have changed a few notes now it's getting closer to Jab Day

really....? i used the word blackmail.... doesnt come stronger than that tbh.....
as for my personal responsibilities...how about you turn that on its head.....
i believe all the scientific and medical expertise that has gone into coming up with the legal criteria for testing vaccines.... { which i assume you did, but do not anymore }
have family experience in what can go wrong when thats not the case ...{ thalidomide } which of course is part of the reasoning for all the well thought out previously government backed safety protocols.....and science im afraid does not change to suit unreasonable panic .... and should there be long term side effects and our hospitals are therefore overwhelmed by these new cases , who exactly were the responsible ? those unreasonably panic stricken willing to shove absolutely anything into themselves as long as it stops their fears or those that actually believe in a very long standing and considered safe testing procedure.... our government are so confident they have even waved liability for pharmaceutical companies on this... must be safe as houses...

Told my elderly mother earlier I would wait for her have it before I do just in case there are any side effects. She wasn’t amused!!

As some have pointed out Airlines will demand that you have in order to fly. I can see the NHS eventually doing something similar to avoid it starting again. If you don’t have it you’ll end up being sent to a bio hazard facility in the middle of nowhere.

At least the idiots might think twice ha ha

might end up being blackmailed into it...
but otherwise..no

Just asking but are personal and social responsibilities not enough?

You may, of course, have a valid reason not to have it (I know some have) but your tune does appear to have changed a few notes now it's getting closer to Jab Day

really....? i used the word blackmail.... doesnt come stronger than that tbh.....
as for my personal responsibilities...how about you turn that on its head.....
i believe all the scientific and medical expertise that has gone into coming up with the legal criteria for testing vaccines.... { which i assume you did, but do not anymore }
have family experience in what can go wrong when thats not the case ...{ thalidomide } which of course is part of the reasoning for all the well thought out previously government backed safety protocols.....and science im afraid does not change to suit unreasonable panic .... and should there be long term side effects and our hospitals are therefore overwhelmed by these new cases , who exactly were the responsible ? those unreasonably panic stricken willing to shove absolutely anything into themselves as long as it stops their fears or those that actually believe in a very long standing and considered safe testing procedure.... our government are so confident they have even waved liability for pharmaceutical companies on this... must be safe as houses...

It's as safe as houses, I'm going to put you down for the Oxford one which is made by genetically adapting a chimpanzee cold virus, what could possibly go wrong?

As I've said all along, I'll quietly hang around at the back of the queue and let all you eager beavers go first.

If your arms don't fall off, I might consider it, but certainly not going to be first in line.

Announcement on non mandatory is a positive though

My position has always been it should be a personal choice just like believing a pleisosaur could be living in the depths of a deep Scottish lake.

You're moving slowly too

All we need is Nukes now

might end up being blackmailed into it...
but otherwise..no

Just asking but are personal and social responsibilities not enough?

You may, of course, have a valid reason not to have it (I know some have) but your tune does appear to have changed a few notes now it's getting closer to Jab Day

really....? i used the word blackmail.... doesnt come stronger than that tbh.....
as for my personal responsibilities...how about you turn that on its head.....
i believe all the scientific and medical expertise that has gone into coming up with the legal criteria for testing vaccines.... { which i assume you did, but do not anymore }
have family experience in what can go wrong when thats not the case ...{ thalidomide } which of course is part of the reasoning for all the well thought out previously government backed safety protocols.....and science im afraid does not change to suit unreasonable panic .... and should there be long term side effects and our hospitals are therefore overwhelmed by these new cases , who exactly were the responsible ? those unreasonably panic stricken willing to shove absolutely anything into themselves as long as it stops their fears or those that actually believe in a very long standing and considered safe testing procedure.... our government are so confident they have even waved liability for pharmaceutical companies on this... must be safe as houses...

It's as safe as houses, I'm going to put you down for the Oxford one which is made by genetically adapting a chimpanzee cold virus, what could possibly go wrong?

your someone that jumped on a plane and went on hols the minute it was allowed.... which shows how much thought you put into things mate....big important man say jump you say how high and would probably punch a tiger if joe exotic was PM and told you it wouldnt be a good idea normally but is fine today... so yes im a chimp which is a few rungs up the ladder from me no thinks me listens....

might end up being blackmailed into it...
but otherwise..no

changing your tune quickly, for months its been no chance, and people are scared who want a virus

I'm glad you've seen the light

not changing my tune at all mate..... simultaneous testing.....the effects on 60 people for one month does not in way reproduce the effects for 1 person over 5 years..... its why its not been allowed previously and as well as being illegal is stupid..

Add to that,that this 90+% is a false figure,as a load of tests were done on people under 55 with no underlying illness.people need to concern themselves with their own choices,and not vilify others for theirs.

HTV news says at present survey results show
67% of people are sensible and will listen to medical experts
23% won't
Women and ethnic minorities are less likely to have it?

96% of people had no side effects

Yes,as of yet!! Very little time has passed as of yet.
I take it the other 10% are unsure/undecided?

might end up being blackmailed into it...
but otherwise..no

changing your tune quickly, for months its been no chance, and people are scared who want a virus

I'm glad you've seen the light

not changing my tune at all mate..... simultaneous testing.....the effects on 60 people for one month does not in way reproduce the effects for 1 person over 5 years..... its why its not been allowed previously and as well as being illegal is stupid..

Add to that,that this 90+% is a false figure,as a load of tests were done on people under 55 with no underlying illness.people need to concern themselves with their own choices,and not vilify others for theirs.

chimps, conspiracy theorists and loch ness monster believers.... seems to be the come back for no liability and doesnt conform with previously legal requirements ....

No chance.

Well im 24 and there has been no news on if people under 50 years old will get the vaccine. So I guess the virus is not as harmful to the youth as the elderly.

As I've said all along, I'll quietly hang around at the back of the queue and let all you eager beavers go first.

If your arms don't fall off, I might consider it, but certainly not going to be first in line.

Announcement on non mandatory is a positive though

My position has always been it should be a personal choice just like believing a pleisosaur could be living in the depths of a deep Scottish lake.

You're moving slowly too

All we need is Nukes now

Hmmm.... my first post on this back on September 24th....

Oh God you think the virus is fine, and your shit scared of a little needle, some people believe everything the read on the interweb

WIth all due respect, I don't think the majority of people are scared of a little needle, it's what that little needle will put into our bodies and the potential unknown effect of that.

Quick recent example, the World Health Organisation only a few weeks ago made a statement on an outbreak in Sudan of vaccine-derived poliovirus type 2

https://www.who.int/csr/don/01-septembe ... -sudan/en/

This doesn't mean all vaccine's are bad, god bless Mssr. Pasteur and his Cow Pox vaccine which has saved the lives of many, many millions for example (side note - that is where we actually get the word vaccine from - vacca is latin for cows). It is just that rushed testing of vaccines can lead to unknown, and often very, very bad side effects.

Equally, most people are not against a vaccine per see, it the idea of a vaccine being mandatory that sets off alarm bells.

To be clear as well, 'mandatory' vaccination might not neccessarily come in the way we assume.

It won't necessarily mean the government pinning us down and jabbing us in the arm, it is more likely that certain rights and freedoms are restricted for those who don't take it, so while being under the guise of voluntary it essentially becomes mandatory anyway.

We are already seeing the introduction of digital health passports to show if you have antibodies for the disease

https://www.prnewswire.com/news-release ... 20037.html

We are also already seeing talk of a need for Covid-19 'booster shots being an ongoing requirement

https://www.businessinsider.com/coronav ... ?r=US&IR=T

So is it really that big a leap to see a world of ongoing 'mandatory vaccination' and the erosion of civil rights of those who don't wish to comply and have the green light on their shiny new app? Possibly, possibly not - however, for me, it seems very ominous.

If you (not necessarily aimed solely at Bluebina, I mean anyone) are comfortable taking the vaccine and running the risks of possible unknown complications further down the line then that is your decision and should be your decision alone. However, if a percentage of the population having taken the vaccine are no longer vulnerable to the virus, what danger can an unvaccinated person who carries the virus, whether it be asymptomatiocally or not, be to that vaccinated population?

If someone sees a greater risk in taking a vaccine that has been produced faster than anything ever before, versus a virus that has an exceptionally low mortality rate amongst those under 75, shouldn't that simply be their choice as they can do no harm to those who have the vaccination so the only person they are potentially putting in danger is themselves?

'My body my choice' was the slogan of the day just 18 months ago in Ireland when they held their abortion referendum, now they seem to be leading the charge for mandatory vaccinations, with others closely behind. It's interesting how these slogans can suddenly be dropped when they become counter-productive for the prevailing narrative. Just one more great example of the pervasiveness of double think all around us I guess.

Whether you want to call it all a conspiracy theory or fake news or anything else, dive beyond the headlines and the information is clearly there. Some of us have taken the time to do so and make informed judgements. Others just repeat the empty rhetoric they are spoon fed (again not referring to you personally Bluebina, just in people general)

While some people may blindly believe what they read on the internet, the flip side is that many, many others simply don't take the time to properly read and understand what is openly available to them.

I'm all for people who want to take a vaccine as soon it is available being able to do so, all power to you, get the jab and get on with your lives, and deal with the consequences (if there are any) come what May.

But I'll just wait here quietly at the back of the queue for as long as I can.

My position seems remarkably consistent to me.

It's simple if anyone does not want it , respect there decision but if you come down with the virus and need hospital you will be refused treatment that's fair .

Yes
please put me at the front of the queue,
I am 64yrs old and a diabetic and still in full time employment

It's as safe as houses, I'm going to put you down for the Oxford one which is made by genetically adapting a chimpanzee cold virus, what could possibly go wrong?

Nothing.. it could even open doors for a career in advertising Tetley tea..

It's simple if anyone does not want it , respect there decision but if you come down with the virus and need hospital you will be refused treatment that's fair .

as long as any side effects of the virus are treated likewise.....