' Isaac Vassell injured yet again '

Cardiff City could be forced to change tack in the coming January transfer window after another injury setback could make them fork out for another attacker in January 2021.


Saturday 28th November 2020


Isaac Vassell has suffered yet another injury setback

Another injury setback for Isaac Vassell could have major ramifications for Cardiff City's January transfer priorities, Neil Harris has said.

NEIL HARRIS:

"Isaac Vassell is not on the training pitch at the moment," a disappointed Harris revealed on Friday. "[There is] No time span on that. He is not fit.

"He got close again. We can’t get a full week’s training out of him and suddenly suffered another setback..

"So he is back in the hands of the specialists, unfortunately, which is a real disappointment. It certainly affects the thinking of the football club come January, that’s for sure.

"We didn’t expect to be without him and Lee Tomlin at this stage of the season.


"A quad again, the same as before. He has pulled up again.

"It's a shame for him obviously, shame for us as well because we want to see a fit Isaac Vassell. Ultimately, we never expected Isaac not to be 100 percent fit at this stage of the season."




It's a massive blow for Cardiff and, of course, Vassell, whose career has completely stalled over the last few years owing to injury strife.

A nasty ACL injury at Birmingham before a string of issues at Cardiff means he has played only 29 games in three seasons, just three in the blue of Cardiff City.

Vassell had a history of injuries and one major one before he signed for Cardiff City.

His contract with the Bluebirds runs until June 2022.

Dreadful signing as his injury risk was well known. However, I do feel sorry for the lad. His career at a top level or maybe even as a professional is finished. We need to negotiate a pay off and move on.

His body is not up to professional football at the highest level . He needs to retire or drop to amateur where his body will not be tested as much.
As for his career at Cardiff, surely it's over now and should be let go. We've paid him for two years to play about 30mins so in my eyes he's already had his pay off.

If he had any conscience he would give up his contract.

I think his signing was tantamount to scandalous,,, having played in only three games, coming on as a substitute in all three last season, I doubt he’s actually played more than 45 minutes for us.

Post by thomasblue » Sat Nov 28, 2020 7:54 am

His body is not up to professional football at the highest level . He needs to retire or drop to amateur where his body will not be tested as much.
As for his career at Cardiff, surely it's over now and should be let go. We've paid him for two years to play about 30mins so in my eyes he's already had his pay off.

If he had any conscience he would give up his contract.

It is not the lad s fault this club bought him and gave him a long contract.... if he had any concience?....... the boy has to live...if he is told he has to give up then he should be insured with the club to be paid off.
This club you say is so well run by Tan is the one at fault allowing Warnock to buy him and giving him a long contract.
Come on Thomas..I agree with a lot you say but not this

Post by thomasblue » Sat Nov 28, 2020 7:54 am

His body is not up to professional football at the highest level . He needs to retire or drop to amateur where his body will not be tested as much.
As for his career at Cardiff, surely it's over now and should be let go. We've paid him for two years to play about 30mins so in my eyes he's already had his pay off.

If he had any conscience he would give up his contract.

It is not the lad s fault this club bought him and gave him a long contract.... if he had any concience?....... the boy has to live...if he is told he has to give up then he should be insured with the club to be paid off.
This club you say is so well run by Tan is the one at fault allowing Warnock to buy him and giving him a long contract.
Come on Thomas..I agree with a lot you say but not this

Not even Tans fault.Just like Patterson Warnock thought he was worth the risk.

Terrible signing and why did we pay 2 million. At least the risk on Paterson was alot less in terms of fee.....

Post by thomasblue » Sat Nov 28, 2020 7:54 am

His body is not up to professional football at the highest level . He needs to retire or drop to amateur where his body will not be tested as much.
As for his career at Cardiff, surely it's over now and should be let go. We've paid him for two years to play about 30mins so in my eyes he's already had his pay off.

If he had any conscience he would give up his contract.

It is not the lad s fault this club bought him and gave him a long contract.... if he had any concience?....... the boy has to live...if he is told he has to give up then he should be insured with the club to be paid off.
This club you say is so well run by Tan is the one at fault allowing Warnock to buy him and giving him a long contract.
Come on Thomas..I agree with a lot you say but not this

Not even Tans fault.Just like Patterson Warnock thought he was worth the risk.

The Manager finds the players, the committee then have to do full background checks and asses whether to say yes and they did knowing Vassell had a terrible history of injuries.

Post by thomasblue » Sat Nov 28, 2020 7:54 am

His body is not up to professional football at the highest level . He needs to retire or drop to amateur where his body will not be tested as much.
As for his career at Cardiff, surely it's over now and should be let go. We've paid him for two years to play about 30mins so in my eyes he's already had his pay off.

If he had any conscience he would give up his contract.

It is not the lad s fault this club bought him and gave him a long contract.... if he had any concience?....... the boy has to live...if he is told he has to give up then he should be insured with the club to be paid off.
This club you say is so well run by Tan is the one at fault allowing Warnock to buy him and giving him a long contract.
Come on Thomas..I agree with a lot you say but not this

Not even Tans fault.Just like Patterson Warnock thought he was worth the risk.

The Manager finds the players, the committee then have to do full background checks and asses whether to say yes and they did knowing Vassell had a terrible history of injuries.

This is only going to end one way,,, and is yet another example of a very poor transfer being sanctioned,,, and another example of a monstrous waste of money. Scandalous to say the least!

Isaac vassell injured again... in other news we really need a good vaccine for this virus and Christmas is coming. Also the sky is blue and grass is green

Post by thomasblue » Sat Nov 28, 2020 7:54 am

His body is not up to professional football at the highest level . He needs to retire or drop to amateur where his body will not be tested as much.
As for his career at Cardiff, surely it's over now and should be let go. We've paid him for two years to play about 30mins so in my eyes he's already had his pay off.

If he had any conscience he would give up his contract.

It is not the lad s fault this club bought him and gave him a long contract.... if he had any concience?....... the boy has to live...if he is told he has to give up then he should be insured with the club to be paid off.
This club you say is so well run by Tan is the one at fault allowing Warnock to buy him and giving him a long contract.
Come on Thomas..I agree with a lot you say but not this

Not even Tans fault.Just like Patterson Warnock thought he was worth the risk.

The Manager finds the players, the committee then have to do full background checks and asses whether to say yes and they did knowing Vassell had a terrible history of injuries.

This is only going to end one way,,, and is yet another example of a very poor transfer being sanctioned,,, and another example of a monstrous waste of money. Scandalous to say the least!

Correct Rick, the committee are absolutely useless on football.

A decision surely will be taken in the summer, it cant go on like this, for the players sake and the clubs.

His body is just not up to proffesional football.

A decision surely will be taken in the summer, it cant go on like this, for the players sake and the clubs.

His body is just not up to proffesional football.

We need to strike a pay off deal ASAP

If I was Vassell - aged 27 - there would be no way that I would walk away from my contract which expires in June 2022 as some have recommended above. Why should he? No one in their right mind would unless the employer paid out their contract at a generous rate.

Agree that he was an awful signing. Wonder what due diligence (if any) was done before he signed. Makes you wonder about our medical and physio staff who put potential new signings through their paces before they join our team.

Those who have said above that Isaac is not physically robust enough to stand the rigours of professional football have it absolutely right - by my reckoning.

At least he wasn’t 10 million, 45k a week and he actually scored a goal for us.

The committee didn’t sign Cornelius. It was football people.

But Cornelius has had a reasonable career since leaving City. Maybe we should have persevered with him - this written with the advantage of hindsight of course!

Post by thomasblue » Sat Nov 28, 2020 7:54 am

His body is not up to professional football at the highest level . He needs to retire or drop to amateur where his body will not be tested as much.
As for his career at Cardiff, surely it's over now and should be let go. We've paid him for two years to play about 30mins so in my eyes he's already had his pay off.

If he had any conscience he would give up his contract.

It is not the lad s fault this club bought him and gave him a long contract.... if he had any concience?....... the boy has to live...if he is told he has to give up then he should be insured with the club to be paid off.
This club you say is so well run by Tan is the one at fault allowing Warnock to buy him and giving him a long contract.
Come on Thomas..I agree with a lot you say but not this

I honestly believe the boy knows his body cannot take the pressure of professional football. He has been injured since 2016/17 season.
If a player becomes incapable of providing the service he was employed to do then he should be made redundant. Is it fair that the club should foot the bill for this guys rehab time and time again only for him to pick up another injury straight after?

In any other job you would just be on sick pay or made redundant.

Is it fair us fans have to fork out for season tickets even though we can't attend to keep the club going just to pay this sicknotes wages when he gives zero back for it over two years ?

The club buy players in good faith that he will be able to provide a service, Vassell is not doing his job

Vincent tan would be working off the advice of physios and his management team. If they say he's worth it then Tan would take that advice so its hard to blame him for things like this, if he had said no and stopped the transfer due to financial reasons then certain fans would say he's not backing his manager. Either way Tan cannot win.

As David Hughes was recently employed by our club before good to look at him.

Bought him £450,000 after not many appearances for Shrewsbury. Had a history of injury problems. Came to our club and was regularly injured. Played 14 times. Then released.

What a waste of money that was. £450,000 in February 2001 was loads.

Not to mention it was money loaned to us and by the time the interest was added on it was a lot more than 450k. Plus wages.

You can fine anything you want it you delve deep enough. I’m sure there are others.

Post by thomasblue » Sat Nov 28, 2020 7:54 am

His body is not up to professional football at the highest level . He needs to retire or drop to amateur where his body will not be tested as much.
As for his career at Cardiff, surely it's over now and should be let go. We've paid him for two years to play about 30mins so in my eyes he's already had his pay off.

If he had any conscience he would give up his contract.

It is not the lad s fault this club bought him and gave him a long contract.... if he had any concience?....... the boy has to live...if he is told he has to give up then he should be insured with the club to be paid off.
This club you say is so well run by Tan is the one at fault allowing Warnock to buy him and giving him a long contract.
Come on Thomas..I agree with a lot you say but not this

I honestly believe the boy knows his body cannot take the pressure of professional football. He has been injured since 2016/17 season.
If a player becomes incapable of providing the service he was employed to do then he should be made redundant. Is it fair that the club should foot the bill for this guys rehab time and time again only for him to pick up another injury straight after?

In any other job you would just be on sick pay or made redundant.

Is it fair us fans have to fork out for season tickets even though we can't attend to keep the club going just to pay this sicknotes wages when he gives zero back for it over two years ?

The club buy players in good faith that he will be able to provide a service, Vassell is not doing his job

Vincent tan would be working off the advice of physios and his management team. If they say he's worth it then Tan would take that advice so its hard to blame him for things like this, if he had said no and stopped the transfer due to financial reasons then certain fans would say he's not backing his manager. Either way Tan cannot win.

Absolutely last line sums it up perfectly.

Tan backed his football people. Warnock wanted him Tan signed him. The committee would have taken advice from Warnock. Is he worth the risk? Yes. If this lad stays injury free (he hasn’t) then we have a good striker on our hands.

At least he wasn’t 10 million, 45k a week and he actually scored a goal for us.

The committee didn’t sign Cornelius. It was football people.

Our transfer committee have over a decades experience running a top level football club in the biggest leagues in the world and are the 4th longest serving owners in the championship. They have a lot of experience now , the "They dont know football" excuse is just a dig at the owner because he is doing a brilliant job at running this football club and they currently don't have a stick to beat him with so they resort to this to try and justify having a dig at the club

Surely he's in breach of contract by now.

We signed someone who in return for a lot of money had to deliver on his claim of being a professional footballer. That is - an individual who is capable of playing football at a professional level.

In Vassell's case this is clearly not being delivered. He cant get fit, he cant stay fit without going down with an injury. He is NOT capable of delivering the goods.

Let's terminate his contract on those terms and see what he does and how his argument stands up in court. My opinion - it wont - just like Vassell. His argument will fall over in a heap and limp slowly out of court - something Vassell is more than used to doing.

This was not Sir Neil’s finest hour

Overpaid for an at best average injury prone striker

This is not hindsight but at the time I thought he had done nothing to justify the £2million + price tag

I also feel sorry for the lad but club needs to pay him up and release him.

Would have thought the Club have him insured anyway!

He’s another one that will never get a contract again or a club.

How the club even sanctioned a deal to sign this croaked player I'll never know even when we was linked to him i said what a waste of money he will be after playing 4 games a season elsewhere and rest I'm stands. Stats prove hes always injured. Joke of a signing. Unreal

Your right we could go and on with this committee Rickie Lambert cost us £millions and did f**k all

I have been told Vassell has a long term foot injury that might never be ok.

How the club even sanctioned a deal to sign this croaked player I'll never know even when we was linked to him i said what a waste of money he will be after playing 4 games a season elsewhere and rest I'm stands. Stats prove hes always injured. Joke of a signing. Unreal

It’s shocking and unbelievable Ian, as his medical record showed all this.

How the club even sanctioned a deal to sign this croaked player I'll never know even when we was linked to him i said what a waste of money he will be after playing 4 games a season elsewhere and rest I'm stands. Stats prove hes always injured. Joke of a signing. Unreal

Can you link to that post where you said that?

Not doubting you just be good to see the other posts in that thread.

Surely he's in breach of contract by now.

We signed someone who in return for a lot of money had to deliver on his claim of being a professional footballer. That is - an individual who is capable of playing football at a professional level.

In Vassell's case this is clearly not being delivered. He cant get fit, he cant stay fit without going down with an injury. He is NOT capable of delivering the goods.

Let's terminate his contract on those terms and see what he does and how his argument stands up in court. My opinion - it wont - just like Vassell. His argument will fall over in a heap and limp slowly out of court - something Vassell is more than used to doing.

I really don't think it would be that easy. Playing contracts would have clauses which are watertight and would prevent the club from terminating the contract on the grounds of injury.

In fact the club would also have a duty of care to it's players. That would mean they would be legally bound to care for the player during periods of inaction due to injury rather than sack them.

If the club went down this route it would get it's arse well and truly kicked

How the club even sanctioned a deal to sign this croaked player I'll never know even when we was linked to him i said what a waste of money he will be after playing 4 games a season elsewhere and rest I'm stands. Stats prove hes always injured. Joke of a signing. Unreal

Can you link to that post where you said that?

Not doubting you just be good to see the other posts in that thread.

Just going on memory (admittedly not a reliable source) my recollection is most posters were against buying him. I can't remember if I had a view one way or the other, but when he scored that goal against Luton I remember thinking "at last we might have a bargain on our hands"

What is that saying about jumping to conclusions?