" Neil Harris' days are numbered "

My opinion



The decision has been made. Neil Harris is out.

It could be today, tomorrow, next week or a couple of weeks down the line.

It is now clear that his days are numbered as Cardiff City manager.

It is clear that the Board of Directors are considering whether he is the right man to take the club forward. Certain members of the Board have felt for a while that he isn't the right man and others will now be coming round to that opinion.

If the club stick with him for the time being and we win our next couple of games, which I can't see happening on current form, then it will just prolong his stay of execution.

Because the next time we don't win after that, the pressure will mount again.

Should the club decide not to act now, then it is just delaying the inevitable.

We don't know if fans will be returning to the Cardiff City Stadium anytime soon.

But if and when they do, there is a likelihood that there could be a toxic atmosphere directed at Neil Harris by the small number of season ticket holders that will be allowed in the stadium. Nobody wants to see a situation like that.

I have tried to support Harris but it is now clear that he will not turn this situation around.

Some might ask whether the end of last season counts for anything in terms of Harris' future. It does count, and I think that's why most supporters have been patient. But the extra time he earned from last season has passed.

The Club should pull the trigger before the weekend.

They also need to remember that the two managers who have taken Cardiff City to the Premier League were not "yes men".

They should accept that it is very unlikely to get promoted back to the top tier with a yes man.

I'm not sure the second part will happen, I can see them replacing Harris with someone who will have to work under the same conditions as him.

But the one thing that is certain is that Neil Harris' position has become untenable.

So if the decision is made, they do not obviously have a replacement ready to step in.

Only at Cardiff City ....

So a decision hasn't been made?

You've just basically said "I think at some point in the near future Harris will get sacked unless we start winning then he won't get sacked until he does get sacked"

Changed the title, as I realise it was a little misleading

So a decision hasn't been made?

You've just basically said "I think at some point in the near future Harris will get sacked unless we start winning then he won't get sacked until he does get sacked"

Just because they haven't sacked him yet, it doesn't mean they don't know they're going to sack him.

Perhaps they're sounding out possible replacements behind the scenes.

If he doesn't go before the weekend, it's a stay of execution.

“Numbered”???
There shouldn’t be any numbers,,, he should have gone after last night pathetic performance.

So a decision hasn't been made?

You've just basically said "I think at some point in the near future Harris will get sacked unless we start winning then he won't get sacked until he does get sacked"

Just because they haven't sacked him yet, it doesn't mean they don't know they're going to sack him.

Perhaps they're sounding out possible replacements behind the scenes.

If he doesn't go before the weekend, it's a stay of execution.

I understand your reasoning and I agree with you but the original title was very clickbaity combined with being stickied as if it was official from the club.

The problem is there is no point in delaying. This (on paper) is not a tough run of fixtures. The longer they leave it the less points we will get from these games and the season is well and truly over. Last night reminded me of Trollope. It was slow and clueless. What is the point of delaying? Just put bamba in charge for a game or two while we talk to managers. It couldn’t be any worse than what we are seeing now

Malky was a yes man. He was happy with red. He didn’t tell Tan some home truths like Warnock did. He was happy in the job and didn’t rock the boat as he was getting money to spend. Which he did badly.

One of our biggest errors in our recent history was the way we went up. Had a stronger squad than the other two teams that came up then spend significantly and yet we finished below those teams. Palace are still in the premier league to this day.

in a couple of weeks ?

and if we win a couple he wont be sacked ?

soi its back to where we were yesterday afternoon then...

the next choice of manager will show what ambition the club has...my guess is they will go for the safe option rather than take a chance with someone like graig bellamy.....i just hope we don't end up with one of those managers that has done the rounds, like mick mcarthy etc.

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Malky was a yes man. He was happy with red. He didn’t tell Tan some home truths like Warnock did. He was happy in the job and didn’t rock the boat as he was getting money to spend. Which he did badly.

One of our biggest errors in our recent history was the way we went up. Had a stronger squad than the other two teams that came up then spend significantly and yet we finished below those teams. Palace are still in the premier league to this day.

I wasnt a great fan of Malky but we weren't far off mid table before the fall out with Tan became public in early November. After a few difficult fixtures in November we had a relatively easy run of games in December but Tan completely undermined his authority and team moral by saying he expected him to resign. No wonder we struggled to pick up points. Had Tan not got involved and Malkey had been allowed to continue we would have stayed up and we may have still been in the Premier.

Tan was the man responsible for relegation that year. Ironic that had we stayed up we would probably still be playing in red!!

So a decision hasn't been made?

You've just basically said "I think at some point in the near future Harris will get sacked unless we start winning then he won't get sacked until he does get sacked"

Just because they haven't sacked him yet, it doesn't mean they don't know they're going to sack him.

Perhaps they're sounding out possible replacements behind the scenes.

If he doesn't go before the weekend, it's a stay of execution.

I honestly never thought I’d think this but I kind of hope we lose.

“Numbered”???
There shouldn’t be any numbers,,, he should have gone after last night pathetic performance.

Nail on the head there, pathetic performance. We can all accept defeat, and the odd bad performance, but when it's week after week after week somethings got to give. The manager takes the plaudits when things are going well, so he has to take the flak when they're not. We have 2 home games coming up, nothing less than 6 points, no excuses, 2 wins. Harris is only lucky there'll be no crowd because he'd sure feel some venom if things went bad yet again.

I don’t understand why Harris is classed as a Yes man and Warnock wasn’t? If you have a boss and don’t agree with him most of the time your days are numbered and you will be sacked? To me there seems to be a problem with the players performing again! Warnock left when we were 14th after a number of pathetic performances especially against our local rivals and on a downward spiral.Harris took over and against all odds took us to 5th before losing to the play off winners. He strengthen the squad this season particularly in bringing in Moore and Wilson, and is trying to play football, winning the Stats but not winning games as the players at the back are making to many mistakes and we are not scoring enough goals. The performance against Coventry was our worst of the season but I’m still undecided whether it’s the players or Manager who are underperforming ? It obviously can’t go on and if it does the Manager will go before the January window and we have to start all over again!

So a decision hasn't been made?

You've just basically said "I think at some point in the near future Harris will get sacked unless we start winning then he won't get sacked until he does get sacked"

Just because they haven't sacked him yet, it doesn't mean they don't know they're going to sack him.

Perhaps they're sounding out possible replacements behind the scenes.

If he doesn't go before the weekend, it's a stay of execution.

I honestly never thought I’d think this but I kind of hope we lose.

I know what you mean I have to say when our goal got ruled out last night I wasn’t as angry as I would normally be as I just thought what’s the point. Players not playing for him, even at the end when you would think we would really throw everything at them for the equaliser we were just going through the motions We weren’t really going for them

I agree that it’s in the best interests of the club if the change is made now.
I think Harris has lost the fan base and even winning a few games will just delay the inevitable.
A change now gives someone new time to bed in before Xmas / January transfer window.
What I don’t agree with that’s been posted on the forum is Tan selling up etc etc etc.
Better the devil u know ....and we are a similar club in many ways to Portsmouth (Size/ fanbase/ culture etc)and look where they are.

I don’t understand why Harris is classed as a Yes man and Warnock wasn’t? If you have a boss and don’t agree with him most of the time your days are numbered and you will be sacked? To me there seems to be a problem with the players performing again! Warnock left when we were 14th after a number of pathetic performances especially against our local rivals and on a downward spiral.Harris took over and against all odds took us to 5th before losing to the play off winners. He strengthen the squad this season particularly in bringing in Moore and Wilson, and is trying to play football, winning the Stats but not winning games as the players at the back are making to many mistakes and we are not scoring enough goals. The performance against Coventry was our worst of the season but I’m still undecided whether it’s the players or Manager who are underperforming ? It obviously can’t go on and if it does the Manager will go before the January window and we have to start all over again!

I am getting to old for this forum. What on earth does winning the stats mean?

So a decision hasn't been made?

You've just basically said "I think at some point in the near future Harris will get sacked unless we start winning then he won't get sacked until he does get sacked"

Just because they haven't sacked him yet, it doesn't mean they don't know they're going to sack him.

Perhaps they're sounding out possible replacements behind the scenes.

If he doesn't go before the weekend, it's a stay of execution.

I honestly never thought I’d think this but I kind of hope we lose.

I know what you mean I have to say when our goal got ruled out last night I wasn’t as angry as I would normally be as I just thought what’s the point. Players not playing for him, even at the end when you would think we would really throw everything at them for the equaliser we were just going through the motions We weren’t really going for them

last night it was glaring... but i dont think you could level that at the players in the 3 previous games where we finished strong.....

I don’t understand why Harris is classed as a Yes man and Warnock wasn’t? If you have a boss and don’t agree with him most of the time your days are numbered and you will be sacked? To me there seems to be a problem with the players performing again! Warnock left when we were 14th after a number of pathetic performances especially against our local rivals and on a downward spiral.Harris took over and against all odds took us to 5th before losing to the play off winners. He strengthen the squad this season particularly in bringing in Moore and Wilson, and is trying to play football, winning the Stats but not winning games as the players at the back are making to many mistakes and we are not scoring enough goals. The performance against Coventry was our worst of the season but I’m still undecided whether it’s the players or Manager who are underperforming ? It obviously can’t go on and if it does the Manager will go before the January window and we have to start all over again!

I am getting to old for this forum. What on earth does winning the stats mean?

Call me old fashioned, but I'd rather win matches than win stats.

For all my criticism of Warnock, he got the results and that's what matters.

Not sure where this thing about us conceding too many silly goals has come from. We have conceded 2 goals in the last four games if we conceded that number of goals over a season we would go up as champions winning the championship by about ten points. Anyway it does not matter a jot whether the goals we concede are stupid or brilliant its the amount that count. The real problem is we have only managed a pathetic one goal in the last three as our manager is way to defensive that is the problem.

For all of us our days are numbered. However, I accept that a run of poor results often results in a sacking in football.
Certainly, Neil Harris has infuriated me by playing Pack in midfield each week and Bacuna out of position. The lack of creativity and pace in midfield seems glaringly obvious. He may pay a heavy price for his belief n a defensive set up built around Pack.

Harris is doing his best, but at present, its clearly not working.Personally, I would give him some more time to sort things out. However, if he is sacked then so be it. In any event, I don’t think that its a time for name calling (yes man ?), and clamouring for his sacking. Some have short memories, he did brilliantly for us last year ( much to my surprise) and far better than most expected. So lets not go in for name calling
Lets stick to facts.... for example ... on the one hand at present we are too defensive, not creating many chances and the football is pretty dire.
On the other hand overall Harris has better win to loss ratio than any of our last 10 managers

For all of us our days are numbered. However, I accept that a run of poor results often results in a sacking in football.
Certainly, Neil Harris has infuriated me by playing Pack in midfield each week and Bacuna out of position. The lack of creativity and pace in midfield seems glaringly obvious. He may pay a heavy price for his belief n a defensive set up built around Pack.

Harris is doing his best, but at present, its clearly not working.Personally, I would give him some more time to sort things out. However, if he is sacked then so be it. In any event, I don’t think that its a time for name calling (yes man ?), and clamouring for his sacking. Some have short memories, he did brilliantly for us last year ( much to my surprise) and far better than most expected. So lets not go in for name calling
Lets stick to facts.... for example ... on the one hand at present we are too defensive, not creating many chances and the football is pretty dire.
On the other hand overall Harris has better win to loss ratio than any of our last 10 managers

But the fact is Harris is a yes man.

So a decision hasn't been made?

You've just basically said "I think at some point in the near future Harris will get sacked unless we start winning then he won't get sacked until he does get sacked"

Just because they haven't sacked him yet, it doesn't mean they don't know they're going to sack him.

Perhaps they're sounding out possible replacements behind the scenes.

If he doesn't go before the weekend, it's a stay of execution.

It's always sad to see a manager go; but I think your words above will prove prophetic, Ned

I don’t understand why Harris is classed as a Yes man and Warnock wasn’t? If you have a boss and don’t agree with him most of the time your days are numbered and you will be sacked? To me there seems to be a problem with the players performing again! Warnock left when we were 14th after a number of pathetic performances especially against our local rivals and on a downward spiral.Harris took over and against all odds took us to 5th before losing to the play off winners. He strengthen the squad this season particularly in bringing in Moore and Wilson, and is trying to play football, winning the Stats but not winning games as the players at the back are making to many mistakes and we are not scoring enough goals. The performance against Coventry was our worst of the season but I’m still undecided whether it’s the players or Manager who are underperforming ? It obviously can’t go on and if it does the Manager will go before the January window and we have to start all over again!

I am getting to old for this forum. What on earth does winning the stats mean?

no mate its still the same game.... 2 teams the one that scores the most wins full stop.

Another Game .

For all of us our days are numbered. However, I accept that a run of poor results often results in a sacking in football.
Certainly, Neil Harris has infuriated me by playing Pack in midfield each week and Bacuna out of position. The lack of creativity and pace in midfield seems glaringly obvious. He may pay a heavy price for his belief n a defensive set up built around Pack.

Harris is doing his best, but at present, its clearly not working.Personally, I would give him some more time to sort things out. However, if he is sacked then so be it. In any event, I don’t think that its a time for name calling (yes man ?), and clamouring for his sacking. Some have short memories, he did brilliantly for us last year ( much to my surprise) and far better than most expected. So lets not go in for name calling
Lets stick to facts.... for example ... on the one hand at present we are too defensive, not creating many chances and the football is pretty dire.
On the other hand overall Harris has better win to loss ratio than any of our last 10 managers

So he dropped Pack and was a bit more positive. Result 6 points 7 goals for and nil against. As I was saying he has a very good win to defeat ratio and deserved some more time.
Yes for all of us our days are numbered (espexially in football), but calls for were premature. Nevertheless, we have difficult fixtures ahead and he is not out of the woods yet. But for now its well done Harris and the team and...... “come on you Bluebirds”

I don’t understand why Harris is classed as a Yes man and Warnock wasn’t? If you have a boss and don’t agree with him most of the time your days are numbered and you will be sacked? To me there seems to be a problem with the players performing again! Warnock left when we were 14th after a number of pathetic performances especially against our local rivals and on a downward spiral.Harris took over and against all odds took us to 5th before losing to the play off winners. He strengthen the squad this season particularly in bringing in Moore and Wilson, and is trying to play football, winning the Stats but not winning games as the players at the back are making to many mistakes and we are not scoring enough goals. The performance against Coventry was our worst of the season but I’m still undecided whether it’s the players or Manager who are underperforming ? It obviously can’t go on and if it does the Manager will go before the January window and we have to start all over again!

I am getting to old for this forum. What on earth does winning the stats mean?

no mate its still the same game.... 2 teams the one that scores the most wins full stop.

Giving procession away in last two games but scoring goals and winning games! Two wins, 6 points and 7 goals for Yes man Harris’s team. At least his haters will be quiet tonight?

As I said in my post, the real test comes now.

These were two games we should have won.

The pressure will mount again with a heavy defeat at Watford.