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M4 got to laugh!

Thu Nov 26, 2020 12:20 pm

WG refuse to pay £1.6b for relief rd but happy to pay £800m on a scheme thats pie in sky at best at worst a waste of money.

BBC News - M4 congestion: Spend £800m on public transport, report says
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-wales-55062433

Re: M4 got to laugh!

Thu Nov 26, 2020 12:32 pm

pembroke allan wrote:WG refuse to pay £1.6b for relief rd but happy to pay £800m on a scheme thats pie in sky at best at worst a waste of money.

BBC News - M4 congestion: Spend £800m on public transport, report says
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-wales-55062433




difficult to laugh Allan , i get caught by the tunnels to often...Friday afternoon / night is terrible

Re: M4 got to laugh!

Thu Nov 26, 2020 12:56 pm

skidemin wrote:
pembroke allan wrote:WG refuse to pay £1.6b for relief rd but happy to pay £800m on a scheme thats pie in sky at best at worst a waste of money.

BBC News - M4 congestion: Spend £800m on public transport, report says
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-wales-55062433




difficult to laugh Allan , i get caught by the tunnels to often...Friday afternoon / night is terrible


Friday after five and Monday mornings after seven are hell!!!

Thank God I don't have to do that anymore!!!

Re: M4 got to laugh!

Thu Nov 26, 2020 1:12 pm

skidemin wrote:
pembroke allan wrote:WG refuse to pay £1.6b for relief rd but happy to pay £800m on a scheme thats pie in sky at best at worst a waste of money.

BBC News - M4 congestion: Spend £800m on public transport, report says
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-wales-55062433




difficult to laugh Allan , i get caught by the tunnels to often...Friday afternoon / night is terrible



Laugh at WG stupidity! obviously no ones told them that trains run near empty after rush hour generally ..... wheres the spare capacity to run trains on mainline tracks provide lots extra busses to run empty ect ect the cost will be unsustainable over period of time ? As for changing
work patterns mmmm buisnesses
cant operate 24hrs a day or 16hrs for that matter just to suit WG, and bit like the £44m wasted on 1st commission a total waste of money .... pie in sky ideas that will fail because only people rejoicing are the people who shout save the planet whilst using car to go to work as too far to walk or cycle eith too expensive public transport. :o

Re: M4 got to laugh!

Thu Nov 26, 2020 1:17 pm

WAG are an absolute shambles from top to bottom

Have you ever come across a more uninspiring group of leaders

The M4 around Newport is an absolute nightmare and has been for years. It effects all companies in the area and they lose £millions of revenue because of it

Dripford and his cronies and proved time and time again they are not intelligent or qualified enough to run the Country and unfortunately many people are going to suffer because of their actions.

Re: M4 got to laugh!

Thu Nov 26, 2020 1:19 pm

Bluebina wrote:
skidemin wrote:
pembroke allan wrote:WG refuse to pay £1.6b for relief rd but happy to pay £800m on a scheme thats pie in sky at best at worst a waste of money.

BBC News - M4 congestion: Spend £800m on public transport, report says
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-wales-55062433




difficult to laugh Allan , i get caught by the tunnels to often...Friday afternoon / night is terrible


Friday after five and Monday mornings after seven are hell!!!

Thank God I don't have to do that anymore!!!



west bound on a Friday its got earlier and earlier mate.... would be more understandable if it was Westminster stopping it but the people strangling our economy are the Welsh Assembly... as for the public transport milarky no good to me and no good to the majority that have just crossed the bridge...

Re: M4 got to laugh!

Thu Nov 26, 2020 1:23 pm

skidemin wrote:
Bluebina wrote:
skidemin wrote:
pembroke allan wrote:WG refuse to pay £1.6b for relief rd but happy to pay £800m on a scheme thats pie in sky at best at worst a waste of money.

BBC News - M4 congestion: Spend £800m on public transport, report says
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-wales-55062433




difficult to laugh Allan , i get caught by the tunnels to often...Friday afternoon / night is terrible


Friday after five and Monday mornings after seven are hell!!!

Thank God I don't have to do that anymore!!!



west bound on a Friday its got earlier and earlier mate.... would be more understandable if it was Westminster stopping it but the people strangling our economy are the Welsh Assembly... as for the public transport milarky no good to me and no good to the majority that have just crossed the bridge...



Exactly they seem to think that reducing speed limit on motorway is going to ease congestion and pumping a billion into ideas that are not practical for vast majority of m4 users is way forward! Drakeford is only interested in his ego and loves the adoration he gets from minority groups that wanted m4 scrapped.

Re: M4 got to laugh!

Thu Nov 26, 2020 2:49 pm

Marvellous. More train services for TFW (or whatever they are called this week) to cancel!!! :banghead:

Re: M4 got to laugh!

Thu Nov 26, 2020 3:13 pm

BLUE54 wrote:Marvellous. More train services for TFW (or whatever they are called this week) to cancel!!! :banghead:

Papa Smurf’s a crank, bought an Airport but isn’t chasing new business because he doesn’t want to increase emissions. As for the Bryn Glas tunnels THEYRE going to get busier and busier till they gridlock the whole M4 this side of the bridge.

Re: M4 got to laugh!

Thu Nov 26, 2020 3:43 pm

Jock wrote:
BLUE54 wrote:Marvellous. More train services for TFW (or whatever they are called this week) to cancel!!! :banghead:

Papa Smurf’s a crank, bought an Airport but isn’t chasing new business because he doesn’t want to increase emissions. As for the Bryn Glas tunnels THEYRE going to get busier and busier till they gridlock the whole M4 this side of the bridge.



Tfw idea is to go from 3 stations to 9 along Newport to Cardiff line ! Obviously that's going to mean buying more trains also employing more staff ...... then want charge firms in centre for car parking spaces good way to have firms relocate away....a cycle track all way between Cardiff Newport see that being busy particularly in winter and rain! 50mph Speed limits will be extended to tredegar park and eventually all major trunk rds ...... already muted to want 50mph for a48 & a40! Other than stations and speed limits one must question if things will get off ground ? All this despite 1st commission telling drakeford that 80% of m4 traffic go pass Newport so his plans are illogical and pointless and a waste of time and money.

Re: M4 got to laugh!

Thu Nov 26, 2020 3:44 pm

Jock wrote:
BLUE54 wrote:Marvellous. More train services for TFW (or whatever they are called this week) to cancel!!! :banghead:

Papa Smurf’s a crank, bought an Airport but isn’t chasing new business because he doesn’t want to increase emissions. As for the Bryn Glas tunnels THEYRE going to get busier and busier till they gridlock the whole M4 this side of the bridge.



and the other way mate...ive actually queued to get onto the bridge from the M49 a few times half peed off with how many caravans are in the queue making it that much longer, and half peed off with the thought that many of those will at some point stop coming and spending...

Re: M4 got to laugh!

Thu Nov 26, 2020 3:55 pm

skidemin wrote:
Jock wrote:
BLUE54 wrote:Marvellous. More train services for TFW (or whatever they are called this week) to cancel!!! :banghead:

Papa Smurf’s a crank, bought an Airport but isn’t chasing new business because he doesn’t want to increase emissions. As for the Bryn Glas tunnels THEYRE going to get busier and busier till they gridlock the whole M4 this side of the bridge.



and the other way mate...ive actually queued to get onto the bridge from the M49 a few times half peed off with how many caravans are in the queue making it that much longer, and half peed off with the thought that many of those will at some point stop coming and spending...



May get same response from the people who have pop concerts sport events ect ect if they know going to have transport problems for ever and a day may not bother to organise events in Cardiff over time

Re: M4 got to laugh!

Thu Nov 26, 2020 4:09 pm

The WAG must be the only government in the world who deliberately try to reduce trade in and out of their own country

They are a joke and Dripford is probably the most annoying and pathetic leader I have ever come across

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Thu Nov 26, 2020 4:26 pm

oohahhPaulMillar wrote:The WAG must be the only government in the world who deliberately try to reduce trade in and out of their own country

They are a joke and Dripford is probably the most annoying and pathetic leader I have ever come across



You say WAG but in reality its labour as they've been only party in power since devolution! Labour are anti car and have been for many years take look at Cardiff a labour council for ever it seems..... they want people uo use public transport especially in Cardiff but they have decimated bus services by their money grabbing excersise of demolishing bus station and putting up two carbunkles in its place and then moving its central location to 4 or 5 terminals around city half a mile apart at least! And using rickshaws to transport O.A.P and disabled people to connecting bus? :D

Re: M4 got to laugh!

Thu Nov 26, 2020 7:44 pm

Unfortunately they know they can do whatever they want because come the end of next May, they will still be in power. Drakeford has even said that he will step down from FM after the elections. How arrogant is that???

Re: M4 got to laugh!

Thu Nov 26, 2020 8:51 pm

BLUE54 wrote:Unfortunately they know they can do whatever they want because come the end of next May, they will still be in power. Drakeford has even said that he will step down from FM after the elections. How arrogant is that???



Hes power mad and He likes being centre of attention and well do anything to get noticed even at deprement of his constituents or the Welsh people as a whole.... arrogant doesn't do him justice .

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Thu Nov 26, 2020 9:04 pm

Theres two choices for Wales. Its about time funding fom England ceased and the country stand by its choice made. Or scrap the WAG and let the Welsh Office run it.

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Fri Nov 27, 2020 9:34 am

We could end up with both.
Boris wants to override Drakeford and build the relief road and the WAG want to develop the railway.

Bring it on.

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Fri Nov 27, 2020 1:15 pm

All the money they’ve wasted on this inquiry together with building new stations on the rail line? Been easier to build the new route...........

Agree with everyone else it’s a nightmare section of the M4 and needs another route.

I’m surprised this Lord bloke doing the inquiry didn’t suggest Wales Internationals being played at 3am instead of normal times. Together with concerts and big matches.

Beggers belief, if the Conservatives pledge to build a new route if they win Wales elections next year they will walk into power!

Re: M4 got to laugh!

Fri Nov 27, 2020 1:27 pm

Pulisnewport wrote:All the money they’ve wasted on this inquiry together with building new stations on the rail line? Been easier to build the new route...........

Agree with everyone else it’s a nightmare section of the M4 and needs another route.

I’m surprised this Lord bloke doing the inquiry didn’t suggest Wales Internationals being played at 3am instead of normal times. Together with concerts and big matches.

Beggers belief, if the Conservatives pledge to build a new route if they win Wales elections next year they will walk into power!

Karl, as a local the current situation must be a nightmare for you. It's not been good for many a year and WAG early need to set it out for the benefit on Newport and South Wales as a whole

Re: M4 got to laugh!

Fri Nov 27, 2020 2:08 pm

Pulisnewport wrote:All the money they’ve wasted on this inquiry together with building new stations on the rail line? Been easier to build the new route...........

Agree with everyone else it’s a nightmare section of the M4 and needs another route.

I’m surprised this Lord bloke doing the inquiry didn’t suggest Wales Internationals being played at 3am instead of normal times. Together with concerts and big matches.

Beggers belief, if the Conservatives pledge to build a new route if they win Wales elections next year they will walk into power!



i think they have offered to pay for it in the past mate... im afraid many would prefer to sit in traffic and damage our own economy than vote this bunch out....

Re: M4 got to laugh!

Fri Nov 27, 2020 2:12 pm

Sven wrote:
Pulisnewport wrote:All the money they’ve wasted on this inquiry together with building new stations on the rail line? Been easier to build the new route...........

Agree with everyone else it’s a nightmare section of the M4 and needs another route.

I’m surprised this Lord bloke doing the inquiry didn’t suggest Wales Internationals being played at 3am instead of normal times. Together with concerts and big matches.

Beggers belief, if the Conservatives pledge to build a new route if they win Wales elections next year they will walk into power!

Karl, as a local the current situation must be a nightmare for you. It's not been good for many a year and WAG early need to set it out for the benefit on Newport and South Wales as a whole


Chris, been caught many a time for hrs just trying to go a mile. If there’s a major problem on the M4 all of Newport comes to a standstill. Drakeford not standing as leader after the elections probably knows he’s going to be ousted with that idiot Vaughan Gethin.

Hopefully they’ll sort it for all the people that need to use it.

Re: M4 got to laugh!

Fri Nov 27, 2020 2:27 pm

Pulisnewport wrote:
Sven wrote:
Pulisnewport wrote:All the money they’ve wasted on this inquiry together with building new stations on the rail line? Been easier to build the new route...........

Agree with everyone else it’s a nightmare section of the M4 and needs another route.

I’m surprised this Lord bloke doing the inquiry didn’t suggest Wales Internationals being played at 3am instead of normal times. Together with concerts and big matches.

Beggers belief, if the Conservatives pledge to build a new route if they win Wales elections next year they will walk into power!

Karl, as a local the current situation must be a nightmare for you. It's not been good for many a year and WAG early need to set it out for the benefit on Newport and South Wales as a whole


Chris, been caught many a time for hrs just trying to go a mile. If there’s a major problem on the M4 all of Newport comes to a standstill. Drakeford not standing as leader after the elections probably knows he’s going to be ousted with that idiot Vaughan Gethin.

Hopefully they’ll sort it for all the people that need to use it.




Commission was told not to include new rd in their deliberations... the one striking thing in all of this is drakefords understanding of the problem... he either is ignoring the problem because hes more interested in appeasing green lobby or he is stupid? Everyman and his dog knows most traffic using m4 do so to get either to Cardiff and behond or Bristol and behond so putting extra stations are not serving any purpose so wasting best part of £500m! Best idea from his commission is to build a proper cycle route between Cardiff and Newport why? :D