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‘ Is this where Neil Harris is getting it wrong? ‘

Mon Nov 23, 2020 6:56 pm

I said I would Judge Neil Harris after 12 games / quarter of the season .

Is this where Neil Harris is getting it wrong?

In 9 of our last 10 league games Cardiff have failed to score in the first half and played some boring / dire football and start to get going when it’s to late.

That’s why we are drawing and losing matches not winning them.

In our 13 first team games this season Cardiff have only won 3 games .

How we are currently playing we will have No chance of the play offs but won’t be relegated.

He keeps saying the youth are coming through, Joel Bagan came from Southampton, so let’s also see when are young players are good enough to play .

Great to keep talking about the future but I can’t see Harris here beyond Xmas if we continue to play as we are playing .


He says we are improving??

Apparently the board have said he needs to win 3/4 of the next 4 matches as they are prob some of our easiest , well then the pressure really is on him now.


Also I stand by Harris is def a yes man and that’s what the board wanted to clear out the squad, have no money and that’s what you get, a Russel Slade type manager.

They def are winnable matches



Sat Nov 21 Millwall 1 Cardiff City 1



Wed Nov 25 Coventry City v Cardiff City


Sat Nov 28 LUTON TOWN H

7pm kick off Tue Dec 01 HUDDERSFIELD TOWN H




YOUR OPINION OF HOW NEIL HARRIS HAS DONE SO FAR THIS SEASON?
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Re: ‘ Is this where Neil Harris is getting it wrong? ‘

Mon Nov 23, 2020 6:58 pm

Sat Nov 21 Millwall 1 Cardiff City 1



Wed Nov 25 Coventry City v Cardiff City


Sat Nov 28 LUTON TOWN H

7pm kick off Tue Dec 01 HUDDERSFIELD TOWN H
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Re: ‘ Is this where Neil Harris is getting it wrong? ‘

Mon Nov 23, 2020 7:09 pm

He's too defensive and negative. Caution over attack.

As some have said, a nice bloke but that doesn't win games.

The placating of us all by NH is done.

He needs to go OR get on the front foot with City from minute 1.

Re: ‘ Is this where Neil Harris is getting it wrong? ‘

Mon Nov 23, 2020 7:44 pm

I fully expected us to kick on from last season but this year has been a disaster so far and I think Harris has created a lot of the problems himself. His team selection and tactics are predictable and easy to defend against and his 'must not lose' approach is killing us. We play so much better after we concede because we actually have a go. Just set up and play like that from the start and stop giving us a mountain to climb every game. I think he needs at least 6-7 points from the next 3 games or he'll be gone.

I dont think he's got anything to lose now so hoping he goes for it Wednesday.

Re: ‘ Is this where Neil Harris is getting it wrong? ‘

Mon Nov 23, 2020 10:08 pm

For me this team is as good on paper as the team Warnock got promoted but there is something wrong with the attitude they don't seem to have the same will to win or team spirit as Warnocks team. Some of the fault lies with the manager but the players are to blame too. I have always been a support of Harris and actually think his record at Millwall was good. Not easy getting out of league one ask a Portsmouth Sunderland or Ipswich fan.

Have to say if things don't improve very quickly a lot more people are going to think a different manager could gat better out of this set of players.

Re: ‘ Is this where Neil Harris is getting it wrong? ‘

Mon Nov 23, 2020 11:25 pm

I think he'll be gone after the Huddersfield game..

Re: ‘ Is this where Neil Harris is getting it wrong? ‘

Tue Nov 24, 2020 12:17 am

1st goal at home seems to have been the key to the end result - Agree with the OP - Next 3 games are their to win .

Re: ‘ Is this where Neil Harris is getting it wrong? ‘

Tue Nov 24, 2020 6:28 am

Reply FB:


NIGEL HARRIS:


Not scoring is one thing but in 8 of our 12 games, we have conceded first. 7 of them have seen us 1-0 down at half time with barely an effort on goal and nearly every goal conceded off a mistake until we see some response 2nd half.

However I am split on how much Harris is to blame and how much the players are letting him and us down. It is likely a mix of both.

Re: ‘ Is this where Neil Harris is getting it wrong? ‘

Tue Nov 24, 2020 1:23 pm

"If only"
If we played like the last 20 mins against millwall when we went for it and attacked and be allowed to play more attacking football we would be top 6 but this starting so negativly keeping it tight and going backwards every time we get to the half way line
time and time again this season we start slow and get dicked in the first 20 mins
Switching bacuna back to midfield in place of pack
and shuffle the defence with either the young lad bagan or the new guy yet to kick a ball
Its so frustrating watching us starting so slow i could shake harris
just wish we where back in the stadium to shout our disapproval at the over defencive way we are playing.

Re: ‘ Is this where Neil Harris is getting it wrong? ‘

Tue Nov 24, 2020 2:21 pm

Basically another Slade then hmmmm Clear out get rid of yes man manager, get a trusted manager in that can drag the results out get promoted, get relegated sack manager get another Slade Harris in sell the squad start over. Tans world :banghead:

Re: ‘ Is this where Neil Harris is getting it wrong? ‘

Tue Nov 24, 2020 3:25 pm

where its going wrong

he believes we have a winning mentality without winning games...

and also thinks performances have been excellent..


so not much wrong at all really ?

Re: ‘ Is this where Neil Harris is getting it wrong? ‘

Tue Nov 24, 2020 3:35 pm

Aghast that he thinks we are performing excellently. Obviously thinks he's doing the business and delivering the goods.

Everything most certainly isn't rosy.

Re: ‘ Is this where Neil Harris is getting it wrong? ‘

Tue Nov 24, 2020 4:04 pm

Big Hill Blue wrote:Aghast that he thinks we are performing excellently. Obviously thinks he's doing the business and delivering the goods.

Everything most certainly isn't rosy.


Agreed, if we were playing good football then I could see his reasoning that results will turn at some point, but we're not !!

We have shown, in short bursts, that we are capable of playing very good football but for most of the time we're playing like we've got the hand brake on !

Saturday was a prime example when we're 1-0 down and only seem to go for it in the last 15 mins. In those 15 minutes we could have easily snatched a win but we certainly didn't deserve it based on the full game.

I actually think this team can do some real damage because we have players who look pretty potent when given the chance. But Harris needs to change tactics otherwise he's going to find himself under so much pressure he just won't be able to turn it around.

Re: ‘ Is this where Neil Harris is getting it wrong? ‘

Tue Nov 24, 2020 8:40 pm

Harris is right about one thing, we do have a decent squad all we need is a manager capable of getting them to show the talent they have, if the board were serious about success how do they explain giving the job to him, would love to see a manager with contacts and capable of attracting players here when needed, personally I'd be willing to see someone like Freddie Ljungberg given a chance, whoever next it turns out to be just please let it happen sooner than later.

Re: ‘ Is this where Neil Harris is getting it wrong? ‘

Tue Nov 24, 2020 9:39 pm

I have supported Harris through the first 10 gamesbut have become disillusioned with the negative tactics and also the poor team selections at times.
We have potentially one of the better forward lines when we utilise Wilson properly but we don’t and the pre season weaknesses in midfield are still there.
Our defence has been poor but most worryingly is that we almost always go behind and have to chase the game.
Harris is a good PR type of manager but I’m tired of him repeating the same nonsense ....the results simply are not good enough and it is time he was gone.
If he was brought in as a yes man and to cut costs then he has excelled at both whilst still being given money to spend on Wilson etc.
We need a stronger character like a Pearson type at the helm as mid table is where we will stay ....and no more parachute payments after this season as well to fall back on.

Re: ‘ Is this where Neil Harris is getting it wrong? ‘

Wed Nov 25, 2020 1:24 am

Escott1927 wrote:I fully expected us to kick on from last season but this year has been a disaster so far and I think Harris has created a lot of the problems himself. His team selection and tactics are predictable and easy to defend against and his 'must not lose' approach is killing us. We play so much better after we concede because we actually have a go. Just set up and play like that from the start and stop giving us a mountain to climb every game. I think he needs at least 6-7 points from the next 3 games or he'll be gone.

I dont think he's got anything to lose now so hoping he goes for it Wednesday.




way too cautious... and the irony is he has started talking about stats and research....well this one seems to have alluded him....we have taken the lead in 18 games under him...those 18 games resulted in W 16...D1...L1... but have only come back once from conceding first and won..

Re: ‘ Is this where Neil Harris is getting it wrong? ‘

Wed Nov 25, 2020 1:54 am

If Harris goes, what do you guys think about going for Eddie Howe ? Do you think the board could afford to bring him to City?

Re: ‘ Is this where Neil Harris is getting it wrong? ‘

Wed Nov 25, 2020 2:29 am

waggera wrote:If Harris goes, what do you guys think about going for Eddie Howe ? Do you think the board could afford to bring him to City?



its not just his wages its the budget he would expect... no chance would our board break FFP to win promotion like he did with Bournemouth...

Re: ‘ Is this where Neil Harris is getting it wrong? ‘

Wed Nov 25, 2020 1:50 pm

waggera wrote:If Harris goes, what do you guys think about going for Eddie Howe ? Do you think the board could afford to bring him to City?


Absolute zero chance. Howe wouldn't drop to the Championship nor could we afford him.

He will get the next mid to bottom half of the Prem club that's looking for a manager.