Mon Nov 16, 2020 3:46 pm
Mon Nov 16, 2020 3:55 pm
Mon Nov 16, 2020 4:01 pm
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Mon Nov 16, 2020 4:15 pm
Pembroke bluebird wrote:Good luck to them Welsh team but saying they are going to be a global force and investing £2 million hmmmm
Mon Nov 16, 2020 4:18 pm
Sven wrote:All very admirable and I wish them and Wrexham FC nothing but good fortune...
However, the last sentence of that report made me smile. Wrexham a "global force"?![]()
It's at that point that I can't take it as anything but a publicity stunt for Reynolds and McElhenney
I guess time will tell but certainly seems an odd one to me
Mon Nov 16, 2020 4:39 pm
pembroke allan wrote:Sven wrote:All very admirable and I wish them and Wrexham FC nothing but good fortune...
However, the last sentence of that report made me smile. Wrexham a "global force"?![]()
It's at that point that I can't take it as anything but a publicity stunt for Reynolds and McElhenney
I guess time will tell but certainly seems an odd one to me
Chris you musnt take it literally!![]()
You know what these actors are like drama is their fortè
Mon Nov 16, 2020 5:14 pm
Sven wrote:All very admirable and I wish them and Wrexham FC nothing but good fortune...
However, the last sentence of that report made me smile. Wrexham a "global force"?![]()
It's at that point that I can't take it as anything but a publicity stunt for Reynolds and McElhenney
I guess time will tell but certainly seems an odd one to me
Mon Nov 16, 2020 5:18 pm
Sven wrote:..... It's at that point that I can't take it as anything but a publicity stunt for Reynolds and McElhenney
Mon Nov 16, 2020 5:27 pm
Sven wrote:pembroke allan wrote:Sven wrote:All very admirable and I wish them and Wrexham FC nothing but good fortune...
However, the last sentence of that report made me smile. Wrexham a "global force"?![]()
It's at that point that I can't take it as anything but a publicity stunt for Reynolds and McElhenney
I guess time will tell but certainly seems an odd one to me
Chris you musnt take it literally!![]()
You know what these actors are like drama is their fortè
Shouldn't be making promises like that to simple folk, Allan![]()
Mon Nov 16, 2020 5:31 pm
Mon Nov 16, 2020 6:08 pm
thomasblue wrote:Good luck to them they deserve it after years in the lower leagues
Apparently there is a link to Liverpool owners so if that is true and Liverpool use them as a second team loaning players then they will become a force very quickly through the leagues
A £2 million team investment would walk them to the top half of league 1 but then would probably need to treble that to gain promotion to the championship and double it again to stay up.
Will be interesting to watch over the next few years, the fan base is definitely there for a championship team
Mon Nov 16, 2020 6:25 pm
skidemin wrote:thomasblue wrote:Good luck to them they deserve it after years in the lower leagues
Apparently there is a link to Liverpool owners so if that is true and Liverpool use them as a second team loaning players then they will become a force very quickly through the leagues
A £2 million team investment would walk them to the top half of league 1 but then would probably need to treble that to gain promotion to the championship and double it again to stay up.
Will be interesting to watch over the next few years, the fan base is definitely there for a championship team
what evidence is there of the last sentence ?
even Wigan managed a bigger average in their last full season with crowds than Wrexham have managed in their entire history.....
Mon Nov 16, 2020 6:28 pm
WestCoastBlue wrote:skidemin wrote:thomasblue wrote:Good luck to them they deserve it after years in the lower leagues
Apparently there is a link to Liverpool owners so if that is true and Liverpool use them as a second team loaning players then they will become a force very quickly through the leagues
A £2 million team investment would walk them to the top half of league 1 but then would probably need to treble that to gain promotion to the championship and double it again to stay up.
Will be interesting to watch over the next few years, the fan base is definitely there for a championship team
what evidence is there of the last sentence ?
even Wigan managed a bigger average in their last full season with crowds than Wrexham have managed in their entire history.....
From what I can see, very little evidence. Their average attendance of 5k would make them the 7th most supported club in League 2 and the 18th most supported club in League 1 and a whopping 25th in the Championship with 24th having 9k crowds.
Obviously success brings crowds but in a town of I’m guessing around 80k I doubt they’ll get much more than 10k in the Championship.
Mon Nov 16, 2020 7:36 pm
thomasblue wrote:WestCoastBlue wrote:skidemin wrote:thomasblue wrote:Good luck to them they deserve it after years in the lower leagues
Apparently there is a link to Liverpool owners so if that is true and Liverpool use them as a second team loaning players then they will become a force very quickly through the leagues
A £2 million team investment would walk them to the top half of league 1 but then would probably need to treble that to gain promotion to the championship and double it again to stay up.
Will be interesting to watch over the next few years, the fan base is definitely there for a championship team
what evidence is there of the last sentence ?
even Wigan managed a bigger average in their last full season with crowds than Wrexham have managed in their entire history.....
From what I can see, very little evidence. Their average attendance of 5k would make them the 7th most supported club in League 2 and the 18th most supported club in League 1 and a whopping 25th in the Championship with 24th having 9k crowds.
Obviously success brings crowds but in a town of I’m guessing around 80k I doubt they’ll get much more than 10k in the Championship.
It's a massive football area and the only club in North Wales
Last season they had at least two games that were over 8k fans in league 2
A few years ago they pulled on 17k against Newport
There record attendance is 35k and have had multiple sell out crowds of over 25k for cup games like Arsenal.
The fan base in the area is there it just needs the success to bring it consistently .
Were we much different when we were in the lower leagues ?
Mon Nov 16, 2020 7:56 pm
worcester_ccfc wrote:thomasblue wrote:WestCoastBlue wrote:skidemin wrote:thomasblue wrote:Good luck to them they deserve it after years in the lower leagues
Apparently there is a link to Liverpool owners so if that is true and Liverpool use them as a second team loaning players then they will become a force very quickly through the leagues
A £2 million team investment would walk them to the top half of league 1 but then would probably need to treble that to gain promotion to the championship and double it again to stay up.
Will be interesting to watch over the next few years, the fan base is definitely there for a championship team
what evidence is there of the last sentence ?
even Wigan managed a bigger average in their last full season with crowds than Wrexham have managed in their entire history.....
From what I can see, very little evidence. Their average attendance of 5k would make them the 7th most supported club in League 2 and the 18th most supported club in League 1 and a whopping 25th in the Championship with 24th having 9k crowds.
Obviously success brings crowds but in a town of I’m guessing around 80k I doubt they’ll get much more than 10k in the Championship.
It's a massive football area and the only club in North Wales
Last season they had at least two games that were over 8k fans in league 2
A few years ago they pulled on 17k against Newport
There record attendance is 35k and have had multiple sell out crowds of over 25k for cup games like Arsenal.
The fan base in the area is there it just needs the success to bring it consistently .
Were we much different when we were in the lower leagues ?
Spot on.
People forget what our crowds were like 20 years ago when we were in the lower leagues.
Mon Nov 16, 2020 8:12 pm
WestCoastBlue wrote:worcester_ccfc wrote:thomasblue wrote:WestCoastBlue wrote:skidemin wrote:thomasblue wrote:Good luck to them they deserve it after years in the lower leagues
Apparently there is a link to Liverpool owners so if that is true and Liverpool use them as a second team loaning players then they will become a force very quickly through the leagues
A £2 million team investment would walk them to the top half of league 1 but then would probably need to treble that to gain promotion to the championship and double it again to stay up.
Will be interesting to watch over the next few years, the fan base is definitely there for a championship team
what evidence is there of the last sentence ?
even Wigan managed a bigger average in their last full season with crowds than Wrexham have managed in their entire history.....
From what I can see, very little evidence. Their average attendance of 5k would make them the 7th most supported club in League 2 and the 18th most supported club in League 1 and a whopping 25th in the Championship with 24th having 9k crowds.
Obviously success brings crowds but in a town of I’m guessing around 80k I doubt they’ll get much more than 10k in the Championship.
It's a massive football area and the only club in North Wales
Last season they had at least two games that were over 8k fans in league 2
A few years ago they pulled on 17k against Newport
There record attendance is 35k and have had multiple sell out crowds of over 25k for cup games like Arsenal.
The fan base in the area is there it just needs the success to bring it consistently .
Were we much different when we were in the lower leagues ?
Spot on.
People forget what our crowds were like 20 years ago when we were in the lower leagues.
It’s not quite spot on though, the 17k figure he’s quoting was for the play off final at Wembley in 2013 and that 17k attendance was the total attendance not Wrexham’s so being generous and saying the crowd was a 50/50 split with no neutrals Wrexham managed about 8k at Wembley for a play off final.
The last home game against Newport in 2018 they got 5k.
Their record attendance of of 35k was in 1957 against Man Utd. How many mancs made the 45mile journey?
In the league the record attendance is 29k from 1936
Their highest ever average attendance for a season is 11k in 1976-1977. That was when they came first in Division 3/League 1 and got promoted as champions to Division 2/Championship.
Since 2003 their highest average attendance was 5,145. After that 5,030 then 15 seasons where the average attendance was around 3-4k and even as low as 2k.
Obviously success brings crowds, I won’t deny that. But I see nothing to justify saying they’ve got a fan base worthy of the Championship.
Mon Nov 16, 2020 8:48 pm
thomasblue wrote:WestCoastBlue wrote:skidemin wrote:thomasblue wrote:Good luck to them they deserve it after years in the lower leagues
Apparently there is a link to Liverpool owners so if that is true and Liverpool use them as a second team loaning players then they will become a force very quickly through the leagues
A £2 million team investment would walk them to the top half of league 1 but then would probably need to treble that to gain promotion to the championship and double it again to stay up.
Will be interesting to watch over the next few years, the fan base is definitely there for a championship team
what evidence is there of the last sentence ?
even Wigan managed a bigger average in their last full season with crowds than Wrexham have managed in their entire history.....
From what I can see, very little evidence. Their average attendance of 5k would make them the 7th most supported club in League 2 and the 18th most supported club in League 1 and a whopping 25th in the Championship with 24th having 9k crowds.
Obviously success brings crowds but in a town of I’m guessing around 80k I doubt they’ll get much more than 10k in the Championship.
It's a massive football area and the only club in North Wales
Last season they had at least two games that were over 8k fans in league 2
A few years ago they pulled on 17k against Newport
There record attendance is 35k and have had multiple sell out crowds of over 25k for cup games like Arsenal.
The fan base in the area is there it just needs the success to bring it consistently .
Were we much different when we were in the lower leagues ?
Mon Nov 16, 2020 9:37 pm
thomasblue wrote:WestCoastBlue wrote:worcester_ccfc wrote:thomasblue wrote:WestCoastBlue wrote:skidemin wrote:thomasblue wrote:Good luck to them they deserve it after years in the lower leagues
Apparently there is a link to Liverpool owners so if that is true and Liverpool use them as a second team loaning players then they will become a force very quickly through the leagues
A £2 million team investment would walk them to the top half of league 1 but then would probably need to treble that to gain promotion to the championship and double it again to stay up.
Will be interesting to watch over the next few years, the fan base is definitely there for a championship team
what evidence is there of the last sentence ?
even Wigan managed a bigger average in their last full season with crowds than Wrexham have managed in their entire history.....
From what I can see, very little evidence. Their average attendance of 5k would make them the 7th most supported club in League 2 and the 18th most supported club in League 1 and a whopping 25th in the Championship with 24th having 9k crowds.
Obviously success brings crowds but in a town of I’m guessing around 80k I doubt they’ll get much more than 10k in the Championship.
It's a massive football area and the only club in North Wales
Last season they had at least two games that were over 8k fans in league 2
A few years ago they pulled on 17k against Newport
There record attendance is 35k and have had multiple sell out crowds of over 25k for cup games like Arsenal.
The fan base in the area is there it just needs the success to bring it consistently .
Were we much different when we were in the lower leagues ?
Spot on.
People forget what our crowds were like 20 years ago when we were in the lower leagues.
It’s not quite spot on though, the 17k figure he’s quoting was for the play off final at Wembley in 2013 and that 17k attendance was the total attendance not Wrexham’s so being generous and saying the crowd was a 50/50 split with no neutrals Wrexham managed about 8k at Wembley for a play off final.
The last home game against Newport in 2018 they got 5k.
Their record attendance of of 35k was in 1957 against Man Utd. How many mancs made the 45mile journey?
In the league the record attendance is 29k from 1936
Their highest ever average attendance for a season is 11k in 1976-1977. That was when they came first in Division 3/League 1 and got promoted as champions to Division 2/Championship.
Since 2003 their highest average attendance was 5,145. After that 5,030 then 15 seasons where the average attendance was around 3-4k and even as low as 2k.
Obviously success brings crowds, I won’t deny that. But I see nothing to justify saying they’ve got a fan base worthy of the Championship.
How many clubs in the national league consistent get 5k and 8k fans ?
The catchment area they have is huge. In the national eagle last season they averaged 5145 fans per game
That puts them above teams like Burton and Wycombe who are either in or have been in the championship ship recently . There average attendance for the Eagle they are in is actually quite impressive and I think we would probably struggle to get more
Mon Nov 16, 2020 10:11 pm
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Tue Nov 17, 2020 7:46 am
Ray Bishop wrote:I don’t get the comment that they got a big catchment area. North Wales isn’t densely populated and you got the big Premier league clubs not far away.
Tue Nov 17, 2020 8:03 am
skidemin wrote:thomasblue wrote:WestCoastBlue wrote:skidemin wrote:thomasblue wrote:Good luck to them they deserve it after years in the lower leagues
Apparently there is a link to Liverpool owners so if that is true and Liverpool use them as a second team loaning players then they will become a force very quickly through the leagues
A £2 million team investment would walk them to the top half of league 1 but then would probably need to treble that to gain promotion to the championship and double it again to stay up.
Will be interesting to watch over the next few years, the fan base is definitely there for a championship team
what evidence is there of the last sentence ?
even Wigan managed a bigger average in their last full season with crowds than Wrexham have managed in their entire history.....
From what I can see, very little evidence. Their average attendance of 5k would make them the 7th most supported club in League 2 and the 18th most supported club in League 1 and a whopping 25th in the Championship with 24th having 9k crowds.
Obviously success brings crowds but in a town of I’m guessing around 80k I doubt they’ll get much more than 10k in the Championship.
It's a massive football area and the only club in North Wales
Last season they had at least two games that were over 8k fans in league 2
A few years ago they pulled on 17k against Newport
There record attendance is 35k and have had multiple sell out crowds of over 25k for cup games like Arsenal.
The fan base in the area is there it just needs the success to bring it consistently .
Were we much different when we were in the lower leagues ?
81st in the list of all time average crowds and massive really dont go together ...
biggest ever average..as i said is even smaller than Wigans last full season with fans.. and the last time they played at this level they struggled to average 4k....its like saying exeter are massive.. in fact exeter is a bigger place , has a bigger catchment area and doesnt have 4 of the biggest clubs in the country an hour away....
Tue Nov 17, 2020 1:29 pm
thomasblue wrote:Ray Bishop wrote:I don’t get the comment that they got a big catchment area. North Wales isn’t densely populated and you got the big Premier league clubs not far away.
Wrexham has a population of 150,000 as a county. When you add in Flintshire and Denbyshire which are is neighbouring counties it jumps up to over 400,000.
That is more than Cardiff and is a big catchment area for a club on its own in that area.
Tue Nov 17, 2020 3:26 pm
thomasblue wrote:skidemin wrote:thomasblue wrote:WestCoastBlue wrote:skidemin wrote:thomasblue wrote:Good luck to them they deserve it after years in the lower leagues
Apparently there is a link to Liverpool owners so if that is true and Liverpool use them as a second team loaning players then they will become a force very quickly through the leagues
A £2 million team investment would walk them to the top half of league 1 but then would probably need to treble that to gain promotion to the championship and double it again to stay up.
Will be interesting to watch over the next few years, the fan base is definitely there for a championship team
what evidence is there of the last sentence ?
even Wigan managed a bigger average in their last full season with crowds than Wrexham have managed in their entire history.....
From what I can see, very little evidence. Their average attendance of 5k would make them the 7th most supported club in League 2 and the 18th most supported club in League 1 and a whopping 25th in the Championship with 24th having 9k crowds.
Obviously success brings crowds but in a town of I’m guessing around 80k I doubt they’ll get much more than 10k in the Championship.
It's a massive football area and the only club in North Wales
Last season they had at least two games that were over 8k fans in league 2
A few years ago they pulled on 17k against Newport
There record attendance is 35k and have had multiple sell out crowds of over 25k for cup games like Arsenal.
The fan base in the area is there it just needs the success to bring it consistently .
Were we much different when we were in the lower leagues ?
81st in the list of all time average crowds and massive really dont go together ...
biggest ever average..as i said is even smaller than Wigans last full season with fans.. and the last time they played at this level they struggled to average 4k....its like saying exeter are massive.. in fact exeter is a bigger place , has a bigger catchment area and doesnt have 4 of the biggest clubs in the country an hour away....
Exeter and Devon as a whole is predominantly Rugby based. North Wales is football.
Nobody said they were massive the point is they have the fan base to become a solid championship team
Tue Nov 17, 2020 4:49 pm
thomasblue wrote:Ray Bishop wrote:I don’t get the comment that they got a big catchment area. North Wales isn’t densely populated and you got the big Premier league clubs not far away.
Wrexham has a population of 150,000 as a county. When you add in Flintshire and Denbyshire which are is neighbouring counties it jumps up to over 400,000.
That is more than Cardiff and is a big catchment area for a club on its own in that area.
Tue Nov 17, 2020 4:51 pm
skiprat wrote:thomasblue wrote:Ray Bishop wrote:I don’t get the comment that they got a big catchment area. North Wales isn’t densely populated and you got the big Premier league clubs not far away.
Wrexham has a population of 150,000 as a county. When you add in Flintshire and Denbyshire which are is neighbouring counties it jumps up to over 400,000.
That is more than Cardiff and is a big catchment area for a club on its own in that area.
Cardiffs catchment area the south east wales conurbation much bigger than Wrexham at 1 million.also they got the likes of man city / Utd Liverpool / Everton on the doorstep.we've got a captive audience.
Tue Nov 17, 2020 6:05 pm
Ray Bishop wrote:thomasblue wrote:Ray Bishop wrote:I don’t get the comment that they got a big catchment area. North Wales isn’t densely populated and you got the big Premier league clubs not far away.
Wrexham has a population of 150,000 as a county. When you add in Flintshire and Denbyshire which are is neighbouring counties it jumps up to over 400,000.
That is more than Cardiff and is a big catchment area for a club on its own in that area.
Cardiff Urban area is well over 400,000, plus the Vale of Glamorgan and the Valleys, you’re talking about 1 million people. Far more than Wrexham and we haven’t got Manchester and Liverpool on our doorstep. No comparison between us and Wrexham.