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" Ryan Reynolds & Rob McElhenney to be new Wrexham owners "

Mon Nov 16, 2020 3:46 pm

Hollywood stars Ryan Reynolds and Rob McElhenney are to be the new owners of National League club Wrexham.

Wrexham Supporters Trust (WST) members voted overwhelmingly to back the takeover with 98.6% of those who responded backing the bid.

Out of more than 2,000 trust members eligible to vote, 1,809 approved, 26 were against and nine abstained.

The trust wished the pair "the very best of luck in charge" and "look forward to what the future brings".

In a statement, the trust added: "Subject to final agreement, league and FA confirmation - the RR McReynolds Company, LLC will take 100% control of Wrexham Football Club Limited from the WST.

"Both parties will now proceed with finalising the details of the takeover, and we will update Wrexham supporters as soon as we can."

Reynolds and fellow actor McElhenney had told trust members they want to turn Wrexham into a "global force".

Re: " Ryan Reynolds & Rob McElhenney to be new Wrexham owner

Mon Nov 16, 2020 3:55 pm

Dixie McNeil reckons be in championship within 5yrs! :o

Re: " Ryan Reynolds & Rob McElhenney to be new Wrexham owner

Mon Nov 16, 2020 4:01 pm

All very admirable and I wish them and Wrexham FC nothing but good fortune...

However, the last sentence of that report made me smile. Wrexham a "global force"? :?

It's at that point that I can't take it as anything but a publicity stunt for Reynolds and McElhenney

I guess time will tell but certainly seems an odd one to me :shock:

Re: " Ryan Reynolds & Rob McElhenney to be new Wrexham owner

Mon Nov 16, 2020 4:03 pm

Good luck to them Welsh team but saying they are going to be a global force and investing £2 million hmmmm

Re: " Ryan Reynolds & Rob McElhenney to be new Wrexham owner

Mon Nov 16, 2020 4:15 pm

Pembroke bluebird wrote:Good luck to them Welsh team but saying they are going to be a global force and investing £2 million hmmmm




2m was for taking over club and initial money to invest ! No doubt lot more to come

Re: " Ryan Reynolds & Rob McElhenney to be new Wrexham owner

Mon Nov 16, 2020 4:18 pm

Sven wrote:All very admirable and I wish them and Wrexham FC nothing but good fortune...

However, the last sentence of that report made me smile. Wrexham a "global force"? :?

It's at that point that I can't take it as anything but a publicity stunt for Reynolds and McElhenney

I guess time will tell but certainly seems an odd one to me :shock:



Chris you musnt take it literally! :D
You know what these actors are like drama is their fortè

Re: " Ryan Reynolds & Rob McElhenney to be new Wrexham owner

Mon Nov 16, 2020 4:39 pm

pembroke allan wrote:
Sven wrote:All very admirable and I wish them and Wrexham FC nothing but good fortune...

However, the last sentence of that report made me smile. Wrexham a "global force"? :?

It's at that point that I can't take it as anything but a publicity stunt for Reynolds and McElhenney

I guess time will tell but certainly seems an odd one to me :shock:



Chris you musnt take it literally! :D
You know what these actors are like drama is their fortè

Shouldn't be making promises like that to simple folk, Allan :thumbright: :laughing6:

Re: " Ryan Reynolds & Rob McElhenney to be new Wrexham owner

Mon Nov 16, 2020 5:14 pm

Sven wrote:All very admirable and I wish them and Wrexham FC nothing but good fortune...

However, the last sentence of that report made me smile. Wrexham a "global force"? :?

It's at that point that I can't take it as anything but a publicity stunt for Reynolds and McElhenney

I guess time will tell but certainly seems an odd one to me :shock:




global seems to have taken on a whole new meaning mate...
first we had global247 news.. which is neither news or global..
and now wrexham a global force...

Re: " Ryan Reynolds & Rob McElhenney to be new Wrexham owner

Mon Nov 16, 2020 5:18 pm

Sven wrote:..... It's at that point that I can't take it as anything but a publicity stunt for Reynolds and McElhenney


Isn't it common knowledge that they are producing a fly on the wall documentary like those already made involving Man City, Sunderland and Spurs.

The premise being that a climb up the leagues will allow for further series of the documentary and be much more interesting than a series about an already successful team.

They have already recouped what they are investing by selling the rights to a streaming company.

Re: " Ryan Reynolds & Rob McElhenney to be new Wrexham owner

Mon Nov 16, 2020 5:27 pm

Sven wrote:
pembroke allan wrote:
Sven wrote:All very admirable and I wish them and Wrexham FC nothing but good fortune...

However, the last sentence of that report made me smile. Wrexham a "global force"? :?

It's at that point that I can't take it as anything but a publicity stunt for Reynolds and McElhenney

I guess time will tell but certainly seems an odd one to me :shock:



Chris you musnt take it literally! :D
You know what these actors are like drama is their fortè

Shouldn't be making promises like that to simple folk, Allan :thumbright: :laughing6:




Will probably star them in a film and that will make them a global force? :o

Re: " Ryan Reynolds & Rob McElhenney to be new Wrexham owner

Mon Nov 16, 2020 5:31 pm

Good luck to them they deserve it after years in the lower leagues

Apparently there is a link to Liverpool owners so if that is true and Liverpool use them as a second team loaning players then they will become a force very quickly through the leagues

A £2 million team investment would walk them to the top half of league 1 but then would probably need to treble that to gain promotion to the championship and double it again to stay up.

Will be interesting to watch over the next few years, the fan base is definitely there for a championship team

Re: " Ryan Reynolds & Rob McElhenney to be new Wrexham owner

Mon Nov 16, 2020 6:08 pm

thomasblue wrote:Good luck to them they deserve it after years in the lower leagues

Apparently there is a link to Liverpool owners so if that is true and Liverpool use them as a second team loaning players then they will become a force very quickly through the leagues

A £2 million team investment would walk them to the top half of league 1 but then would probably need to treble that to gain promotion to the championship and double it again to stay up.

Will be interesting to watch over the next few years, the fan base is definitely there for a championship team




what evidence is there of the last sentence ?
even Wigan managed a bigger average in their last full season with crowds than Wrexham have managed in their entire history.....

Re: " Ryan Reynolds & Rob McElhenney to be new Wrexham owner

Mon Nov 16, 2020 6:25 pm

skidemin wrote:
thomasblue wrote:Good luck to them they deserve it after years in the lower leagues

Apparently there is a link to Liverpool owners so if that is true and Liverpool use them as a second team loaning players then they will become a force very quickly through the leagues

A £2 million team investment would walk them to the top half of league 1 but then would probably need to treble that to gain promotion to the championship and double it again to stay up.

Will be interesting to watch over the next few years, the fan base is definitely there for a championship team




what evidence is there of the last sentence ?
even Wigan managed a bigger average in their last full season with crowds than Wrexham have managed in their entire history.....


From what I can see, very little evidence. Their average attendance of 5k would make them the 7th most supported club in League 2 and the 18th most supported club in League 1 and a whopping 25th in the Championship with 24th having 9k crowds.

Obviously success brings crowds but in a town of I’m guessing around 80k I doubt they’ll get much more than 10k in the Championship.

Re: " Ryan Reynolds & Rob McElhenney to be new Wrexham owner

Mon Nov 16, 2020 6:28 pm

WestCoastBlue wrote:
skidemin wrote:
thomasblue wrote:Good luck to them they deserve it after years in the lower leagues

Apparently there is a link to Liverpool owners so if that is true and Liverpool use them as a second team loaning players then they will become a force very quickly through the leagues

A £2 million team investment would walk them to the top half of league 1 but then would probably need to treble that to gain promotion to the championship and double it again to stay up.

Will be interesting to watch over the next few years, the fan base is definitely there for a championship team




what evidence is there of the last sentence ?
even Wigan managed a bigger average in their last full season with crowds than Wrexham have managed in their entire history.....


From what I can see, very little evidence. Their average attendance of 5k would make them the 7th most supported club in League 2 and the 18th most supported club in League 1 and a whopping 25th in the Championship with 24th having 9k crowds.

Obviously success brings crowds but in a town of I’m guessing around 80k I doubt they’ll get much more than 10k in the Championship.


It's a massive football area and the only club in North Wales

Last season they had at least two games that were over 8k fans in league 2

A few years ago they pulled on 17k against Newport

There record attendance is 35k and have had multiple sell out crowds of over 25k for cup games like Arsenal.

The fan base in the area is there it just needs the success to bring it consistently .

Were we much different when we were in the lower leagues ?

Re: " Ryan Reynolds & Rob McElhenney to be new Wrexham owner

Mon Nov 16, 2020 7:36 pm

thomasblue wrote:
WestCoastBlue wrote:
skidemin wrote:
thomasblue wrote:Good luck to them they deserve it after years in the lower leagues

Apparently there is a link to Liverpool owners so if that is true and Liverpool use them as a second team loaning players then they will become a force very quickly through the leagues

A £2 million team investment would walk them to the top half of league 1 but then would probably need to treble that to gain promotion to the championship and double it again to stay up.

Will be interesting to watch over the next few years, the fan base is definitely there for a championship team




what evidence is there of the last sentence ?
even Wigan managed a bigger average in their last full season with crowds than Wrexham have managed in their entire history.....


From what I can see, very little evidence. Their average attendance of 5k would make them the 7th most supported club in League 2 and the 18th most supported club in League 1 and a whopping 25th in the Championship with 24th having 9k crowds.

Obviously success brings crowds but in a town of I’m guessing around 80k I doubt they’ll get much more than 10k in the Championship.


It's a massive football area and the only club in North Wales

Last season they had at least two games that were over 8k fans in league 2

A few years ago they pulled on 17k against Newport

There record attendance is 35k and have had multiple sell out crowds of over 25k for cup games like Arsenal.

The fan base in the area is there it just needs the success to bring it consistently .

Were we much different when we were in the lower leagues ?


Spot on.

People forget what our crowds were like 20 years ago when we were in the lower leagues.

Re: " Ryan Reynolds & Rob McElhenney to be new Wrexham owner

Mon Nov 16, 2020 7:56 pm

worcester_ccfc wrote:
thomasblue wrote:
WestCoastBlue wrote:
skidemin wrote:
thomasblue wrote:Good luck to them they deserve it after years in the lower leagues

Apparently there is a link to Liverpool owners so if that is true and Liverpool use them as a second team loaning players then they will become a force very quickly through the leagues

A £2 million team investment would walk them to the top half of league 1 but then would probably need to treble that to gain promotion to the championship and double it again to stay up.

Will be interesting to watch over the next few years, the fan base is definitely there for a championship team




what evidence is there of the last sentence ?
even Wigan managed a bigger average in their last full season with crowds than Wrexham have managed in their entire history.....


From what I can see, very little evidence. Their average attendance of 5k would make them the 7th most supported club in League 2 and the 18th most supported club in League 1 and a whopping 25th in the Championship with 24th having 9k crowds.

Obviously success brings crowds but in a town of I’m guessing around 80k I doubt they’ll get much more than 10k in the Championship.


It's a massive football area and the only club in North Wales

Last season they had at least two games that were over 8k fans in league 2

A few years ago they pulled on 17k against Newport

There record attendance is 35k and have had multiple sell out crowds of over 25k for cup games like Arsenal.

The fan base in the area is there it just needs the success to bring it consistently .

Were we much different when we were in the lower leagues ?


Spot on.

People forget what our crowds were like 20 years ago when we were in the lower leagues.


It’s not quite spot on though, the 17k figure he’s quoting was for the play off final at Wembley in 2013 and that 17k attendance was the total attendance not Wrexham’s so being generous and saying the crowd was a 50/50 split with no neutrals Wrexham managed about 8k at Wembley for a play off final.

The last home game against Newport in 2018 they got 5k.

Their record attendance of of 35k was in 1957 against Man Utd. How many mancs made the 45mile journey?

In the league the record attendance is 29k from 1936

Their highest ever average attendance for a season is 11k in 1976-1977. That was when they came first in Division 3/League 1 and got promoted as champions to Division 2/Championship.

Since 2003 their highest average attendance was 5,145. After that 5,030 then 15 seasons where the average attendance was around 3-4k and even as low as 2k.

Obviously success brings crowds, I won’t deny that. But I see nothing to justify saying they’ve got a fan base worthy of the Championship.

Re: " Ryan Reynolds & Rob McElhenney to be new Wrexham owner

Mon Nov 16, 2020 8:12 pm

WestCoastBlue wrote:
worcester_ccfc wrote:
thomasblue wrote:
WestCoastBlue wrote:
skidemin wrote:
thomasblue wrote:Good luck to them they deserve it after years in the lower leagues

Apparently there is a link to Liverpool owners so if that is true and Liverpool use them as a second team loaning players then they will become a force very quickly through the leagues

A £2 million team investment would walk them to the top half of league 1 but then would probably need to treble that to gain promotion to the championship and double it again to stay up.

Will be interesting to watch over the next few years, the fan base is definitely there for a championship team




what evidence is there of the last sentence ?
even Wigan managed a bigger average in their last full season with crowds than Wrexham have managed in their entire history.....


From what I can see, very little evidence. Their average attendance of 5k would make them the 7th most supported club in League 2 and the 18th most supported club in League 1 and a whopping 25th in the Championship with 24th having 9k crowds.

Obviously success brings crowds but in a town of I’m guessing around 80k I doubt they’ll get much more than 10k in the Championship.


It's a massive football area and the only club in North Wales

Last season they had at least two games that were over 8k fans in league 2

A few years ago they pulled on 17k against Newport

There record attendance is 35k and have had multiple sell out crowds of over 25k for cup games like Arsenal.

The fan base in the area is there it just needs the success to bring it consistently .

Were we much different when we were in the lower leagues ?


Spot on.

People forget what our crowds were like 20 years ago when we were in the lower leagues.


It’s not quite spot on though, the 17k figure he’s quoting was for the play off final at Wembley in 2013 and that 17k attendance was the total attendance not Wrexham’s so being generous and saying the crowd was a 50/50 split with no neutrals Wrexham managed about 8k at Wembley for a play off final.

The last home game against Newport in 2018 they got 5k.

Their record attendance of of 35k was in 1957 against Man Utd. How many mancs made the 45mile journey?

In the league the record attendance is 29k from 1936

Their highest ever average attendance for a season is 11k in 1976-1977. That was when they came first in Division 3/League 1 and got promoted as champions to Division 2/Championship.

Since 2003 their highest average attendance was 5,145. After that 5,030 then 15 seasons where the average attendance was around 3-4k and even as low as 2k.

Obviously success brings crowds, I won’t deny that. But I see nothing to justify saying they’ve got a fan base worthy of the Championship.


How many clubs in the national league consistent get 5k and 8k fans ?

The catchment area they have is huge. In the national eagle last season they averaged 5145 fans per game

That puts them above teams like Burton and Wycombe who are either in or have been in the championship ship recently . There average attendance for the Eagle they are in is actually quite impressive and I think we would probably struggle to get more

Re: " Ryan Reynolds & Rob McElhenney to be new Wrexham owner

Mon Nov 16, 2020 8:48 pm

thomasblue wrote:
WestCoastBlue wrote:
skidemin wrote:
thomasblue wrote:Good luck to them they deserve it after years in the lower leagues

Apparently there is a link to Liverpool owners so if that is true and Liverpool use them as a second team loaning players then they will become a force very quickly through the leagues

A £2 million team investment would walk them to the top half of league 1 but then would probably need to treble that to gain promotion to the championship and double it again to stay up.

Will be interesting to watch over the next few years, the fan base is definitely there for a championship team




what evidence is there of the last sentence ?
even Wigan managed a bigger average in their last full season with crowds than Wrexham have managed in their entire history.....


From what I can see, very little evidence. Their average attendance of 5k would make them the 7th most supported club in League 2 and the 18th most supported club in League 1 and a whopping 25th in the Championship with 24th having 9k crowds.

Obviously success brings crowds but in a town of I’m guessing around 80k I doubt they’ll get much more than 10k in the Championship.


It's a massive football area and the only club in North Wales

Last season they had at least two games that were over 8k fans in league 2

A few years ago they pulled on 17k against Newport

There record attendance is 35k and have had multiple sell out crowds of over 25k for cup games like Arsenal.

The fan base in the area is there it just needs the success to bring it consistently .

Were we much different when we were in the lower leagues ?



81st in the list of all time average crowds and massive really dont go together ...
biggest ever average..as i said is even smaller than Wigans last full season with fans.. and the last time they played at this level they struggled to average 4k....its like saying exeter are massive.. in fact exeter is a bigger place , has a bigger catchment area and doesnt have 4 of the biggest clubs in the country an hour away....

Re: " Ryan Reynolds & Rob McElhenney to be new Wrexham owner

Mon Nov 16, 2020 9:37 pm

thomasblue wrote:
WestCoastBlue wrote:
worcester_ccfc wrote:
thomasblue wrote:
WestCoastBlue wrote:
skidemin wrote:
thomasblue wrote:Good luck to them they deserve it after years in the lower leagues

Apparently there is a link to Liverpool owners so if that is true and Liverpool use them as a second team loaning players then they will become a force very quickly through the leagues

A £2 million team investment would walk them to the top half of league 1 but then would probably need to treble that to gain promotion to the championship and double it again to stay up.

Will be interesting to watch over the next few years, the fan base is definitely there for a championship team




what evidence is there of the last sentence ?
even Wigan managed a bigger average in their last full season with crowds than Wrexham have managed in their entire history.....


From what I can see, very little evidence. Their average attendance of 5k would make them the 7th most supported club in League 2 and the 18th most supported club in League 1 and a whopping 25th in the Championship with 24th having 9k crowds.

Obviously success brings crowds but in a town of I’m guessing around 80k I doubt they’ll get much more than 10k in the Championship.


It's a massive football area and the only club in North Wales

Last season they had at least two games that were over 8k fans in league 2

A few years ago they pulled on 17k against Newport

There record attendance is 35k and have had multiple sell out crowds of over 25k for cup games like Arsenal.

The fan base in the area is there it just needs the success to bring it consistently .

Were we much different when we were in the lower leagues ?


Spot on.

People forget what our crowds were like 20 years ago when we were in the lower leagues.


It’s not quite spot on though, the 17k figure he’s quoting was for the play off final at Wembley in 2013 and that 17k attendance was the total attendance not Wrexham’s so being generous and saying the crowd was a 50/50 split with no neutrals Wrexham managed about 8k at Wembley for a play off final.

The last home game against Newport in 2018 they got 5k.

Their record attendance of of 35k was in 1957 against Man Utd. How many mancs made the 45mile journey?

In the league the record attendance is 29k from 1936

Their highest ever average attendance for a season is 11k in 1976-1977. That was when they came first in Division 3/League 1 and got promoted as champions to Division 2/Championship.

Since 2003 their highest average attendance was 5,145. After that 5,030 then 15 seasons where the average attendance was around 3-4k and even as low as 2k.

Obviously success brings crowds, I won’t deny that. But I see nothing to justify saying they’ve got a fan base worthy of the Championship.


How many clubs in the national league consistent get 5k and 8k fans ?

The catchment area they have is huge. In the national eagle last season they averaged 5145 fans per game

That puts them above teams like Burton and Wycombe who are either in or have been in the championship ship recently . There average attendance for the Eagle they are in is actually quite impressive and I think we would probably struggle to get more


Notts County
Leyton Orient
Tranmere
Lincoln
Bristol Rovers
Luton
Cambridge
Grimsby
Stockport
Chesterfield

Since 2013 all those teams have had higher average attendances than Wrexham in a season, how many of those do you think can be considered championship worthy. Also 2 8k games in a season isn’t consistency, average attendance shows consistency and of the list above only Luton and Bristol Rovers have managed a higher average attendance than 7k. Bristol - 8,402 and Luton 7,387 both in their promotion seasons.

What Wrexham consistently do is finish around 3rd highest average attendance, which whilst it is impressive, they also don’t blow the rest of the league out the water with those numbers with the teams behind only a few hundred fans fewer.

Wrexham are a decently well supported Conference team I’ll admit but in my opinion nothing special.

Re: " Ryan Reynolds & Rob McElhenney to be new Wrexham owner

Mon Nov 16, 2020 10:11 pm

They have the catchment area to get back to the Championship and remember we had worst crowds than they have now when we were in Division 4! I sincerely hope they join The Jacks, Newport county in the Championship when we are back in the Premier League!

Re: " Ryan Reynolds & Rob McElhenney to be new Wrexham owner

Mon Nov 16, 2020 11:56 pm

I worked up in Wrexham on and off for a few years and went to a few games and had a few pints with the supporters. They were really nice lads and met a few who followed Wales everywhere.

They might seem to have a good catchment area but the transport infrastructure is not there for the surrounding Welsh areas. In fact they are much closer to any built up areas in England than they are to any in Wales. Add to that the locals who support Liverpool and Everton and the potential to be a big club is just not there. I wish them well though - I would much rather see them do well than the smackheads down west!

Re: " Ryan Reynolds & Rob McElhenney to be new Wrexham owner

Tue Nov 17, 2020 6:07 am

Big Wales following up there. Good luck to them. Hopefully they grow and produce some decent Welsh talent for the National team in the future.

Re: " Ryan Reynolds & Rob McElhenney to be new Wrexham owner

Tue Nov 17, 2020 7:28 am

I don’t get the comment that they got a big catchment area. North Wales isn’t densely populated and you got the big Premier league clubs not far away.

Re: " Ryan Reynolds & Rob McElhenney to be new Wrexham owner

Tue Nov 17, 2020 7:46 am

Ray Bishop wrote:I don’t get the comment that they got a big catchment area. North Wales isn’t densely populated and you got the big Premier league clubs not far away.

Wrexham has a population of 150,000 as a county. When you add in Flintshire and Denbyshire which are is neighbouring counties it jumps up to over 400,000.

That is more than Cardiff and is a big catchment area for a club on its own in that area.

Re: " Ryan Reynolds & Rob McElhenney to be new Wrexham owner

Tue Nov 17, 2020 8:03 am

skidemin wrote:
thomasblue wrote:
WestCoastBlue wrote:
skidemin wrote:
thomasblue wrote:Good luck to them they deserve it after years in the lower leagues

Apparently there is a link to Liverpool owners so if that is true and Liverpool use them as a second team loaning players then they will become a force very quickly through the leagues

A £2 million team investment would walk them to the top half of league 1 but then would probably need to treble that to gain promotion to the championship and double it again to stay up.

Will be interesting to watch over the next few years, the fan base is definitely there for a championship team




what evidence is there of the last sentence ?
even Wigan managed a bigger average in their last full season with crowds than Wrexham have managed in their entire history.....


From what I can see, very little evidence. Their average attendance of 5k would make them the 7th most supported club in League 2 and the 18th most supported club in League 1 and a whopping 25th in the Championship with 24th having 9k crowds.

Obviously success brings crowds but in a town of I’m guessing around 80k I doubt they’ll get much more than 10k in the Championship.


It's a massive football area and the only club in North Wales

Last season they had at least two games that were over 8k fans in league 2

A few years ago they pulled on 17k against Newport

There record attendance is 35k and have had multiple sell out crowds of over 25k for cup games like Arsenal.

The fan base in the area is there it just needs the success to bring it consistently .

Were we much different when we were in the lower leagues ?



81st in the list of all time average crowds and massive really dont go together ...
biggest ever average..as i said is even smaller than Wigans last full season with fans.. and the last time they played at this level they struggled to average 4k....its like saying exeter are massive.. in fact exeter is a bigger place , has a bigger catchment area and doesnt have 4 of the biggest clubs in the country an hour away....

Exeter and Devon as a whole is predominantly Rugby based. North Wales is football.

Nobody said they were massive the point is they have the fan base to become a solid championship team

Re: " Ryan Reynolds & Rob McElhenney to be new Wrexham owner

Tue Nov 17, 2020 1:29 pm

thomasblue wrote:
Ray Bishop wrote:I don’t get the comment that they got a big catchment area. North Wales isn’t densely populated and you got the big Premier league clubs not far away.

Wrexham has a population of 150,000 as a county. When you add in Flintshire and Denbyshire which are is neighbouring counties it jumps up to over 400,000.

That is more than Cardiff and is a big catchment area for a club on its own in that area.

Cardiffs catchment area the south east wales conurbation much bigger than Wrexham at 1 million.also they got the likes of man city / Utd Liverpool / Everton on the doorstep.we've got a captive audience.

Re: " Ryan Reynolds & Rob McElhenney to be new Wrexham owner

Tue Nov 17, 2020 3:26 pm

thomasblue wrote:
skidemin wrote:
thomasblue wrote:
WestCoastBlue wrote:
skidemin wrote:
thomasblue wrote:Good luck to them they deserve it after years in the lower leagues

Apparently there is a link to Liverpool owners so if that is true and Liverpool use them as a second team loaning players then they will become a force very quickly through the leagues

A £2 million team investment would walk them to the top half of league 1 but then would probably need to treble that to gain promotion to the championship and double it again to stay up.

Will be interesting to watch over the next few years, the fan base is definitely there for a championship team




what evidence is there of the last sentence ?
even Wigan managed a bigger average in their last full season with crowds than Wrexham have managed in their entire history.....


From what I can see, very little evidence. Their average attendance of 5k would make them the 7th most supported club in League 2 and the 18th most supported club in League 1 and a whopping 25th in the Championship with 24th having 9k crowds.

Obviously success brings crowds but in a town of I’m guessing around 80k I doubt they’ll get much more than 10k in the Championship.


It's a massive football area and the only club in North Wales

Last season they had at least two games that were over 8k fans in league 2

A few years ago they pulled on 17k against Newport

There record attendance is 35k and have had multiple sell out crowds of over 25k for cup games like Arsenal.

The fan base in the area is there it just needs the success to bring it consistently .

Were we much different when we were in the lower leagues ?



81st in the list of all time average crowds and massive really dont go together ...
biggest ever average..as i said is even smaller than Wigans last full season with fans.. and the last time they played at this level they struggled to average 4k....its like saying exeter are massive.. in fact exeter is a bigger place , has a bigger catchment area and doesnt have 4 of the biggest clubs in the country an hour away....

Exeter and Devon as a whole is predominantly Rugby based. North Wales is football.

Nobody said they were massive the point is they have the fan base to become a solid championship team



well its not something they have achieved in their very long history. { i think they are something like the 5th oldest club in the world }.. i misread the massive footballing area as massive club... but the catchment area is huge in size and not so in population.. with the Liverpool and Manchester clubs always drawing the lions share of support from the area which has gone on for generations...its a mountain to climb. they are just the Welsh version of their local rivals Chester who likewise have never managed to attract attendances of note...

Re: " Ryan Reynolds & Rob McElhenney to be new Wrexham owner

Tue Nov 17, 2020 4:49 pm

thomasblue wrote:
Ray Bishop wrote:I don’t get the comment that they got a big catchment area. North Wales isn’t densely populated and you got the big Premier league clubs not far away.

Wrexham has a population of 150,000 as a county. When you add in Flintshire and Denbyshire which are is neighbouring counties it jumps up to over 400,000.

That is more than Cardiff and is a big catchment area for a club on its own in that area.


Cardiff Urban area is well over 400,000, plus the Vale of Glamorgan and the Valleys, you’re talking about 1 million people. Far more than Wrexham and we haven’t got Manchester and Liverpool on our doorstep. No comparison between us and Wrexham.

Re: " Ryan Reynolds & Rob McElhenney to be new Wrexham owner

Tue Nov 17, 2020 4:51 pm

skiprat wrote:
thomasblue wrote:
Ray Bishop wrote:I don’t get the comment that they got a big catchment area. North Wales isn’t densely populated and you got the big Premier league clubs not far away.

Wrexham has a population of 150,000 as a county. When you add in Flintshire and Denbyshire which are is neighbouring counties it jumps up to over 400,000.

That is more than Cardiff and is a big catchment area for a club on its own in that area.

Cardiffs catchment area the south east wales conurbation much bigger than Wrexham at 1 million.also they got the likes of man city / Utd Liverpool / Everton on the doorstep.we've got a captive audience.


Made my reply before seeing yours. Didn’t mean to copy you lol

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Ray Bishop wrote:
thomasblue wrote:
Ray Bishop wrote:I don’t get the comment that they got a big catchment area. North Wales isn’t densely populated and you got the big Premier league clubs not far away.

Wrexham has a population of 150,000 as a county. When you add in Flintshire and Denbyshire which are is neighbouring counties it jumps up to over 400,000.

That is more than Cardiff and is a big catchment area for a club on its own in that area.


Cardiff Urban area is well over 400,000, plus the Vale of Glamorgan and the Valleys, you’re talking about 1 million people. Far more than Wrexham and we haven’t got Manchester and Liverpool on our doorstep. No comparison between us and Wrexham.


Who said it was a comparison between cardiff city and Wrexham ?

The debate is whether Wrexham could sustain a good championship team with a solid fan base. Given the amount of people in the area then I would say yes .