Moderna Vaccine 95% effective !!!!! Get in there !!!!

Great news after the Pfizer vaccine news last week, all we need now is to get the message across to the people who are still concerned, these are real game-changers, 11 vaccine's in final trials now

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/health-54902908

I think the Astra veneca one is going to be announced soon with similar numbers.

Cheaper and UK made too.

In terms of our way of life going back to normal, a vaccine won't achieve that.

https://thehill.com/homenews/sunday-tal ... ng-vaccine

The only way we got back to normal is if people resist. Fortunately, more people are awakening to this.

Great news after the Pfizer vaccine news last week, all we need now is to get the message across to the people who are still concerned, these are real game-changers, 11 vaccine's in final trials now

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/health-54902908

my only concern is for those buying into something that would normally take them a nano second to reject...
90% then Russia have one thats 92% , now the next one is 95% , chances are by the end of the week its going to top a 100 %.. and remarkably all these vaccines are coming to fruit one after another in a relatively short period of time.... bit like the twighlight zone...
pushing the percentage is actually making it look more sus not less....

I think the Astra veneca one is going to be announced soon with similar numbers.

Cheaper and UK made too.

It's always been promising that one, I really hope is as successful, I think the government really want to use that one if it's amongst the best.

Great news after the Pfizer vaccine news last week, all we need now is to get the message across to the people who are still concerned, these are real game-changers, 11 vaccine's in final trials now

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/health-54902908

my only concern is for those buying into something that would normally take them a nano second to reject...
90% then Russia have one thats 92% , now the next one is 95% , chances are by the end of the week its going to top a 100 %.. and remarkably all these vaccines are coming to fruit one after another in a relatively short period of time.... bit like the twighlight zone...
pushing the percentage is actually making it look more sus not less....

They can't lie and say more people are getting people ill if the vaccines working it's working!

We just need everyone to stop believing the anti-vaxxers that will slow down a return to normality.

Not aimed at you personally, you have a very valid reason for being dubious I mean the internet false rubbish thats posted on some sites not here.

In terms of our way of life going back to normal, a vaccine won't achieve that.

https://thehill.com/homenews/sunday-tal ... ng-vaccine

The only way we got back to normal is if people resist. Fortunately, more people are awakening to this.

We will have to be careful but I think most people will start to take a chance knowing it's 95% effective.

Great news after the Pfizer vaccine news last week, all we need now is to get the message across to the people who are still concerned, these are real game-changers, 11 vaccine's in final trials now

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/health-54902908

my only concern is for those buying into something that would normally take them a nano second to reject...
90% then Russia have one thats 92% , now the next one is 95% , chances are by the end of the week its going to top a 100 %.. and remarkably all these vaccines are coming to fruit one after another in a relatively short period of time.... bit like the twighlight zone...
pushing the percentage is actually making it look more sus not less....

They can't lie and say more people are getting people ill if the vaccines working it's working!

We just need everyone to stop believing the anti-vaxxers that will slow down a return to normality.

Not aimed at you personally, you have a very valid reason for being dubious I mean the internet false rubbish thats posted on some sites not here.

yes dubious.... how different labs all over the world using completely different methods of tackling a virus are like a line of dominoes falling . different types of vaccines that all have remarkably similar and remarkably high claims of effectiveness... i honestly think everyone should think long and hard before getting excited and getting in the queue.....agree some of the claims about micro chips are really not helping one way or the other...
i have loads of questions..but here is 1.....assuming its as on tin and does actually work.. how can anyone fore see the effectiveness of a vaccine in 9 months time or possible side effects, or reactions to the million and one other prescribed drugs... when it has not existed 9 months... ??????? you simply can not condense time...
its been rushed... and at the very least should be said clearly that these companies have not been given a free pass re future litigation from any harm done....

Great news after the Pfizer vaccine news last week, all we need now is to get the message across to the people who are still concerned, these are real game-changers, 11 vaccine's in final trials now

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/health-54902908

my only concern is for those buying into something that would normally take them a nano second to reject...
90% then Russia have one thats 92% , now the next one is 95% , chances are by the end of the week its going to top a 100 %.. and remarkably all these vaccines are coming to fruit one after another in a relatively short period of time.... bit like the twighlight zone...
pushing the percentage is actually making it look more sus not less....

They can't lie and say more people are getting people ill if the vaccines working it's working!

We just need everyone to stop believing the anti-vaxxers that will slow down a return to normality.

Not aimed at you personally, you have a very valid reason for being dubious I mean the internet false rubbish thats posted on some sites not here.

yes dubious.... how different labs all over the world using completely different methods of tackling a virus are like a line of dominoes falling . different types of vaccines that all have remarkably similar and remarkably high claims of effectiveness... i honestly think everyone should think long and hard before getting excited and getting in the queue.....agree some of the claims about micro chips are really not helping one way or the other...
i have loads of questions..but here is 1.....assuming its as on tin and does actually work.. how can anyone fore see the effectiveness of a vaccine in 9 months time or possible side effects, or reactions to the million and one other prescribed drugs... when it has not existed 9 months... ??????? you simply can not condense time...
its been rushed... and at the very least should be said clearly that these companies have not been given a free pass re future litigation from any harm done....

They all started at the same time, we always knew ten or eleven would get results quickly and around the same time.

The poor bastards have worked flat out and the compensation seekers are calling the solicitors before it's even launched

I can see it now, every future illness or deficiency blamed on the vaccine, I would have had 10 A*s but the vaccine made me dopey and I only got 3 D's

Great news after the Pfizer vaccine news last week, all we need now is to get the message across to the people who are still concerned, these are real game-changers, 11 vaccine's in final trials now

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/health-54902908

my only concern is for those buying into something that would normally take them a nano second to reject...
90% then Russia have one thats 92% , now the next one is 95% , chances are by the end of the week its going to top a 100 %.. and remarkably all these vaccines are coming to fruit one after another in a relatively short period of time.... bit like the twighlight zone...
pushing the percentage is actually making it look more sus not less....

They can't lie and say more people are getting people ill if the vaccines working it's working!

We just need everyone to stop believing the anti-vaxxers that will slow down a return to normality.

Not aimed at you personally, you have a very valid reason for being dubious I mean the internet false rubbish thats posted on some sites not here.

yes dubious.... how different labs all over the world using completely different methods of tackling a virus are like a line of dominoes falling . different types of vaccines that all have remarkably similar and remarkably high claims of effectiveness... i honestly think everyone should think long and hard before getting excited and getting in the queue.....agree some of the claims about micro chips are really not helping one way or the other...
i have loads of questions..but here is 1.....assuming its as on tin and does actually work.. how can anyone fore see the effectiveness of a vaccine in 9 months time or possible side effects, or reactions to the million and one other prescribed drugs... when it has not existed 9 months... ??????? you simply can not condense time...
its been rushed... and at the very least should be said clearly that these companies have not been given a free pass re future litigation from any harm done....

They all started at the same time, we always knew ten or eleven would get results quickly and around the same time.

The poor bastards have worked flat out and the compensation seekers are calling the solicitors before it's even launched

I can see it now, every future illness or deficiency blamed on the vaccine, I would have had 10 A*s but the vaccine made me dopey and I only got 3 D's

i dont think all starting the same time is a very good explanation mate...
and i had a cousin born { he has passed now } with disabilities { no arms } caused because his mother took a prescribed drug called thalidomide to counter morning sickness ... which was { pre covid } a big part of the reason drugs are now rigorously tested over years... so yes there should be a guarantee that these companies have not been given a free pass as theyve obviously cut corners in the trial and testing.... dont much care how hard theyve worked or if they are bastards if what they produce.. like thalidomide does more harm than good....

Great news after the Pfizer vaccine news last week, all we need now is to get the message across to the people who are still concerned, these are real game-changers, 11 vaccine's in final trials now

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/health-54902908

my only concern is for those buying into something that would normally take them a nano second to reject...
90% then Russia have one thats 92% , now the next one is 95% , chances are by the end of the week its going to top a 100 %.. and remarkably all these vaccines are coming to fruit one after another in a relatively short period of time.... bit like the twighlight zone...
pushing the percentage is actually making it look more sus not less....

They can't lie and say more people are getting people ill if the vaccines working it's working!

We just need everyone to stop believing the anti-vaxxers that will slow down a return to normality.

Not aimed at you personally, you have a very valid reason for being dubious I mean the internet false rubbish thats posted on some sites not here.

yes dubious.... how different labs all over the world using completely different methods of tackling a virus are like a line of dominoes falling . different types of vaccines that all have remarkably similar and remarkably high claims of effectiveness... i honestly think everyone should think long and hard before getting excited and getting in the queue.....agree some of the claims about micro chips are really not helping one way or the other...
i have loads of questions..but here is 1.....assuming its as on tin and does actually work.. how can anyone fore see the effectiveness of a vaccine in 9 months time or possible side effects, or reactions to the million and one other prescribed drugs... when it has not existed 9 months... ??????? you simply can not condense time...
its been rushed... and at the very least should be said clearly that these companies have not been given a free pass re future litigation from any harm done....

They all started at the same time, we always knew ten or eleven would get results quickly and around the same time.

The poor bastards have worked flat out and the compensation seekers are calling the solicitors before it's even launched

I can see it now, every future illness or deficiency blamed on the vaccine, I would have had 10 A*s but the vaccine made me dopey and I only got 3 D's

i dont think all starting the same time is a very good explanation mate...
and i had a cousin born { he has passed now } with disabilities { no arms } caused because his mother took a prescribed drug called thalidomide to counter morning sickness ... which was { pre covid } a big part of the reason drugs are now rigorously tested over years... so yes there should be a guarantee that these companies have not been given a free pass as theyve obviously cut corners in the trial and testing.... dont much care how hard theyve worked or if they are bastards if what they produce.. like thalidomide does more harm than good....

It does put a completely different perspective on it from me, and of course, we will see things from polar opposites.

I do think medical science has moved on a long way since then, and that the same mistakes will not be made in the future. Everything I have read and have been told confirm that although the testing was done in record time, often overlapping processes to speeds things up, the testing was as stringent if not more than previous vaccine testing.

We will all just have to wait and see and make our own decisions based on the facts presented.

I do worry about the legal system ruining the health service and making doctors scared to take the appropriate actions for fear of often false negligence claims, but that's the terrible World we now live in?

Maybe governments will take responsibility for it so that they can be recommended as safe and that may reassure more people?

It does put a completely different perspective on it from me, and of course, we will see things from polar opposites.

I do think medical science has moved on a long way since then, and that the same mistakes will not be made in the future. Everything I have read and have been told confirm that although the testing was done in record time, often overlapping processes to speeds things up, the testing was as stringent if not more than previous vaccine testing.

We will all just have to wait and see and make our own decisions based on the facts presented.

I do worry about the legal system ruining the health service and making doctors scared to take the appropriate actions for fear of often false negligence claims, but that's the terrible World we now live in?

Maybe governments will take responsibility for it so that they can be recommended as safe and that may reassure more people?

Maybe, a bit like UK Government are taking responsibility for the lethal cladding fiasco that Government agencies/depts gave the final go ahead as safe BUT now claim no responsibility and the poor leaseholders who had no choice have to stump up for taking it off !!

Great news after the Pfizer vaccine news last week, all we need now is to get the message across to the people who are still concerned, these are real game-changers, 11 vaccine's in final trials now

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/health-54902908

my only concern is for those buying into something that would normally take them a nano second to reject...
90% then Russia have one thats 92% , now the next one is 95% , chances are by the end of the week its going to top a 100 %.. and remarkably all these vaccines are coming to fruit one after another in a relatively short period of time.... bit like the twighlight zone...
pushing the percentage is actually making it look more sus not less....

They can't lie and say more people are getting people ill if the vaccines working it's working!

We just need everyone to stop believing the anti-vaxxers that will slow down a return to normality.

Not aimed at you personally, you have a very valid reason for being dubious I mean the internet false rubbish thats posted on some sites not here.

yes dubious.... how different labs all over the world using completely different methods of tackling a virus are like a line of dominoes falling . different types of vaccines that all have remarkably similar and remarkably high claims of effectiveness... i honestly think everyone should think long and hard before getting excited and getting in the queue.....agree some of the claims about micro chips are really not helping one way or the other...
i have loads of questions..but here is 1.....assuming its as on tin and does actually work.. how can anyone fore see the effectiveness of a vaccine in 9 months time or possible side effects, or reactions to the million and one other prescribed drugs... when it has not existed 9 months... ??????? you simply can not condense time...
its been rushed... and at the very least should be said clearly that these companies have not been given a free pass re future litigation from any harm done....

They all started at the same time, we always knew ten or eleven would get results quickly and around the same time.

The poor bastards have worked flat out and the compensation seekers are calling the solicitors before it's even launched

I can see it now, every future illness or deficiency blamed on the vaccine, I would have had 10 A*s but the vaccine made me dopey and I only got 3 D's

i dont think all starting the same time is a very good explanation mate...
and i had a cousin born { he has passed now } with disabilities { no arms } caused because his mother took a prescribed drug called thalidomide to counter morning sickness ... which was { pre covid } a big part of the reason drugs are now rigorously tested over years... so yes there should be a guarantee that these companies have not been given a free pass as theyve obviously cut corners in the trial and testing.... dont much care how hard theyve worked or if they are bastards if what they produce.. like thalidomide does more harm than good....

It does put a completely different perspective on it from me, and of course, we will see things from polar opposites.

I do think medical science has moved on a long way since then, and that the same mistakes will not be made in the future. Everything I have read and have been told confirm that although the testing was done in record time, often overlapping processes to speeds things up, the testing was as stringent if not more than previous vaccine testing.

We will all just have to wait and see and make our own decisions based on the facts presented.

I do worry about the legal system ruining the health service and making doctors scared to take the appropriate actions for fear of often false negligence claims, but that's the terrible World we now live in?

Maybe governments will take responsibility for it so that they can be recommended as safe and that may reassure more people?

well its either the government make it crystal clear that either they have not ring fenced pharmaceutical companies against future litigation..... take full responsibility for any payouts re side effects themselves... or get people to sign waivers...

It does put a completely different perspective on it from me, and of course, we will see things from polar opposites.

I do think medical science has moved on a long way since then, and that the same mistakes will not be made in the future. Everything I have read and have been told confirm that although the testing was done in record time, often overlapping processes to speeds things up, the testing was as stringent if not more than previous vaccine testing.

We will all just have to wait and see and make our own decisions based on the facts presented.

I do worry about the legal system ruining the health service and making doctors scared to take the appropriate actions for fear of often false negligence claims, but that's the terrible World we now live in?

Maybe governments will take responsibility for it so that they can be recommended as safe and that may reassure more people?

Maybe, a bit like UK Government are taking responsibility for the lethal cladding fiasco that Government agencies/depts gave the final go ahead as safe BUT now claim no responsibility and the poor leaseholders who had no choice have to stump up for taking it off !!

Good point, Governments can't be held responsible for everything maybe we should take responsibility for our own decisions, getting people to sign waivers is probably the quickest easiest option?

As it’s been said medical science has moved on and some other drugs are coming to market a lot quicker nowadays due to increased knowledge, DNA mapping, and computer modelling running equations and permutations that used to take years. There was a cancer drug approved a year or so ago, 10 months into its trials. The results were so overwhelmingly successful (90 odd percent success) NICE said it was unethical to continue trialling and approved it for use.
I also remember watching a Dr in a teaching hospital say “You have to remember 50% of what we teach medical students will be proved wrong by the time they’re 50”

Don’t think the vaccine will be mandatory but good luck trying to go on holiday to many countries without it.....

Watch the film 'I am legend' so called miracle vaccination. I know it's fiction but makes you think about possible side effects.

I'm not in favour of it being mandated but I do question why anyone would not want to have the vaccine.

I appreciate testing has been shortened but they have tested it across a raft of people across the world so the results are pretty comprehensive. The problem is that any long term effects are untested but, after all, this isn't about changing genetic make-up or even using new methods to develop. This science is used frequently to devise vaccines that provoke our existing immune systems into tackling the virus.

Bottom line is pretty simple. If we insist on the usual testing periods that will probably mean another 12-18 months of living like we have been. That is unsustainable on any level, be it economic, mental wellbeing, social, etc.

I also think there may have to be limits on people who don't have the vaccine. Limited foreign travel, limits to visiting hospitals/Care Home, etc. Easy enough to police if they just issue inoculation cards.

The Oxford uni vaccine has been running for almost 6 months, so twice as long as the others announced recently. Expect this one to be bigger news than the others maybe.....

And as I understand they have dispensed with liability in case of these vaccines being unsafe. Many of you on here was to young when they told pregnant women that Thalidomide was a very safe drug and look what happened there.
There are reasons why it takes around 6 years to produce and test a vaccine and speeding it up and cutting red tape is laughable.
But after a couple of months please tell me how the living hell can they say to what percentage it is effective ? They can’t and you have got to be f*cking brainwashed or frightened enough to believe such a claim.
Agree with a poster that those saying that 5g chips inserted in this vaccine does not help at all that is madness. But the talk of mandatory vaccination or blackmail ie travel and restrictions would not be needed if this vaccine had gone through the stringent testing that it should. And talk of censoring those that question it is also very dangerous.
Those that wish to take it then Cary on but would you willingly have your own children vaccinated ?
For me to many people would believe anything if they said it would control this so say pandemic.
Pity they can’t find a vaccination against dementia and cancer etc isn’t it ? Wakey wakey

I'm not in favour of it being mandated but I do question why anyone would not want to have the vaccine.

I appreciate testing has been shortened but they have tested it across a raft of people across the world so the results are pretty comprehensive. The problem is that any long term effects are untested but, after all, this isn't about changing genetic make-up or even using new methods to develop. This science is used frequently to devise vaccines that provoke our existing immune systems into tackling the virus.

Bottom line is pretty simple. If we insist on the usual testing periods that will probably mean another 12-18 months of living like we have been. That is unsustainable on any level, be it economic, mental wellbeing, social, etc.

I also think there may have to be limits on people who don't have the vaccine. Limited foreign travel, limits to visiting hospitals/Care Home, etc. Easy enough to police if they just issue inoculation cards.

i think the government should give those taking the vaccine a waiver form... where people take full responsibility for any side effects and get those side effects treated privately.. enough ordinary people have already suffered through covid 19 preventing them being diagnosed and treated by our NHS without being dumped on and down graded a 2nd time through hospitals being overwhelmed because people knowingly took an experimental vaccines...

I'm not in favour of it being mandated but I do question why anyone would not want to have the vaccine.

I appreciate testing has been shortened but they have tested it across a raft of people across the world so the results are pretty comprehensive. The problem is that any long term effects are untested but, after all, this isn't about changing genetic make-up or even using new methods to develop. This science is used frequently to devise vaccines that provoke our existing immune systems into tackling the virus.

Bottom line is pretty simple. If we insist on the usual testing periods that will probably mean another 12-18 months of living like we have been. That is unsustainable on any level, be it economic, mental wellbeing, social, etc.

I also think there may have to be limits on people who don't have the vaccine. Limited foreign travel, limits to visiting hospitals/Care Home, etc. Easy enough to police if they just issue inoculation cards.

i think the government should give those taking the vaccine a waiver form... where people take full responsibility for any side effects and get those side effects treated privately.. enough ordinary people have already suffered through covid 19 preventing them being diagnosed and treated by our NHS without being dumped on and down graded a 2nd time through hospitals being overwhelmed because people knowingly took an experimental vaccines...

Are you mad !!??

All the evidence appears to show that these vaccines will assist the NHS in recovering.

This vaccine, on the face of it, is safer than the normal flu jab. You don't even receive a small dose of the infection, like with the flu jab, just a very small part of the cells.

Therefore surely any "penalties" should be on those NOT taking the vaccine !!??

On the balance of probabilities it's clear that the best way out of the pandemic is vaccination. If you don't take it then it will continue to infect people and put the vulnerable at risk, I'm more than willing to take the jab to protect others, even if there is a minimal risk.

And as I understand they have dispensed with liability in case of these vaccines being unsafe. Many of you on here was to young when they told pregnant women that Thalidomide was a very safe drug and look what happened there.
There are reasons why it takes around 6 years to produce and test a vaccine and speeding it up and cutting red tape is laughable.
But after a couple of months please tell me how the living hell can they say to what percentage it is effective ? They can’t and you have got to be f*cking brainwashed or frightened enough to believe such a claim.
Agree with a poster that those saying that 5g chips inserted in this vaccine does not help at all that is madness. But the talk of mandatory vaccination or blackmail ie travel and restrictions would not be needed if this vaccine had gone through the stringent testing that it should. And talk of censoring those that question it is also very dangerous.
Those that wish to take it then Cary on but would you willingly have your own children vaccinated ?
For me to many people would believe anything if they said it would control this so say pandemic.
Pity they can’t find a vaccination against dementia and cancer etc isn’t it ? Wakey wakey

Sweet Jesus.....I don’t know where to begin with this. It isn’t the 1970’s and medical science has come a long way since we electrocuted people or cut out part of the frontal lobe of the brain for with depression. Computer tech makes analysis of the virus and how to counter it, aswell as new drugs far far quicker than it used to, this is one if the biggest factors in reducing the time to bring a new drug into the public domain. We don’t need to wait 5 years to see if it works. Why should we? We have lots of new cancer treatments we didn’t have 10 years ago, 25 years ago we hardly had any! Dementia is one of the trickiest as we still don’t understand half of what the brain does.
Come in nukes you’ll be saying the yanks took down the twin towers next

I'm not in favour of it being mandated but I do question why anyone would not want to have the vaccine.

I appreciate testing has been shortened but they have tested it across a raft of people across the world so the results are pretty comprehensive. The problem is that any long term effects are untested but, after all, this isn't about changing genetic make-up or even using new methods to develop. This science is used frequently to devise vaccines that provoke our existing immune systems into tackling the virus.

Bottom line is pretty simple. If we insist on the usual testing periods that will probably mean another 12-18 months of living like we have been. That is unsustainable on any level, be it economic, mental wellbeing, social, etc.

I also think there may have to be limits on people who don't have the vaccine. Limited foreign travel, limits to visiting hospitals/Care Home, etc. Easy enough to police if they just issue inoculation cards.

i think the government should give those taking the vaccine a waiver form... where people take full responsibility for any side effects and get those side effects treated privately.. enough ordinary people have already suffered through covid 19 preventing them being diagnosed and treated by our NHS without being dumped on and down graded a 2nd time through hospitals being overwhelmed because people knowingly took an experimental vaccines...

Are you mad !!??

All the evidence appears to show that these vaccines will assist the NHS in recovering.

This vaccine, on the face of it, is safer than the normal flu jab. You don't even receive a small dose of the infection, like with the flu jab, just a very small part of the cells.

Therefore surely any "penalties" should be on those NOT taking the vaccine !!??

On the balance of probabilities it's clear that the best way out of the pandemic is vaccination. If you don't take it then it will continue to infect people and put the vulnerable at risk, I'm more than willing to take the jab to protect others, even if there is a minimal risk.

no more mad than those suggesting all sorts of incredibly nutty poke people in the eye restrictions for choosing to not take a chance....cuts both ways...i cant think of anything more irresponsible than taking an experimental substances... and i doubt very very much any people thinking like you would think the same a year ago...or infact sign waivers....

And as I understand they have dispensed with liability in case of these vaccines being unsafe. Many of you on here was to young when they told pregnant women that Thalidomide was a very safe drug and look what happened there.
There are reasons why it takes around 6 years to produce and test a vaccine and speeding it up and cutting red tape is laughable.
But after a couple of months please tell me how the living hell can they say to what percentage it is effective ? They can’t and you have got to be f*cking brainwashed or frightened enough to believe such a claim.
Agree with a poster that those saying that 5g chips inserted in this vaccine does not help at all that is madness. But the talk of mandatory vaccination or blackmail ie travel and restrictions would not be needed if this vaccine had gone through the stringent testing that it should. And talk of censoring those that question it is also very dangerous.
Those that wish to take it then Cary on but would you willingly have your own children vaccinated ?
For me to many people would believe anything if they said it would control this so say pandemic.
Pity they can’t find a vaccination against dementia and cancer etc isn’t it ? Wakey wakey

Sweet Jesus.....I don’t know where to begin with this. It isn’t the 1970’s and medical science has come a long way since we electrocuted people or cut out part of the frontal lobe of the brain for with depression. Computer tech makes analysis of the virus and how to counter it, aswell as new drugs far far quicker than it used to, this is one if the biggest factors in reducing the time to bring a new drug into the public domain. We don’t need to wait 5 years to see if it works. Why should we? We have lots of new cancer treatments we didn’t have 10 years ago, 25 years ago we hardly had any! Dementia is one of the trickiest as we still don’t understand half of what the brain does.
Come in nukes you’ll be saying the yanks took down the twin towers next

indeed....teams all over the world are tasked with making a vaccine.... abracadabra 6 months later each different team has not only developed one that works, but they are all different, and all have incredibly high effectiveness....

its a virus and a vaccine for christ sakes..not a TV show where 10 teams race to make a raft out of twigs and then negotiate a pond...

And as I understand they have dispensed with liability in case of these vaccines being unsafe. Many of you on here was to young when they told pregnant women that Thalidomide was a very safe drug and look what happened there.
There are reasons why it takes around 6 years to produce and test a vaccine and speeding it up and cutting red tape is laughable.
But after a couple of months please tell me how the living hell can they say to what percentage it is effective ? They can’t and you have got to be f*cking brainwashed or frightened enough to believe such a claim.
Agree with a poster that those saying that 5g chips inserted in this vaccine does not help at all that is madness. But the talk of mandatory vaccination or blackmail ie travel and restrictions would not be needed if this vaccine had gone through the stringent testing that it should. And talk of censoring those that question it is also very dangerous.
Those that wish to take it then Cary on but would you willingly have your own children vaccinated ?
For me to many people would believe anything if they said it would control this so say pandemic.
Pity they can’t find a vaccination against dementia and cancer etc isn’t it ? Wakey wakey

Sweet Jesus.....I don’t know where to begin with this. It isn’t the 1970’s and medical science has come a long way since we electrocuted people or cut out part of the frontal lobe of the brain for with depression. Computer tech makes analysis of the virus and how to counter it, aswell as new drugs far far quicker than it used to, this is one if the biggest factors in reducing the time to bring a new drug into the public domain. We don’t need to wait 5 years to see if it works. Why should we? We have lots of new cancer treatments we didn’t have 10 years ago, 25 years ago we hardly had any! Dementia is one of the trickiest as we still don’t understand half of what the brain does.
Come in nukes you’ll be saying the yanks took down the twin towers next

They did So what are the Cancer treatments since the 80s ?

There are reasons why it takes around 6 years to produce and test a vaccine and speeding it up and cutting red tape is laughable.

A) There's far more people working on this than other previous vaccines
B) There's a lot more money available to them
C) Corona virus is similar to MERS and SARS so a lot of initial analysis has been practically done with recent work to stop them.

But after a couple of months please tell me how the living hell can they say to what percentage it is effective ?

Effectiveness is based on how many antibodies and t cells you produce. These get produced relatively quickly rather than years later for obvious reasons.

But the talk of mandatory vaccination or blackmail ie travel and restrictions would not be needed if this vaccine had gone through the stringent testing that it should.

You need vaccines to go to many different countries. Are you saying they are also untested?

And talk of censoring those that question it is also very dangerous.

Well you've questioned it and not been censored so...

Those that wish to take it then Carry on but would you willingly have your own children vaccinated ?

Yes

Pity they can’t find a vaccination against dementia and cancer etc isn’t it ? Wakey wakey

There are vaccines against cancer and they're making one that helps fight alzehemiers but there is a difference between countering viruses or bacteria and countering your own body changing.

There are reasons why it takes around 6 years to produce and test a vaccine and speeding it up and cutting red tape is laughable.

A) There's far more people working on this than other previous vaccines
B) There's a lot more money available to them
C) Corona virus is similar to MERS and SARS so a lot of initial analysis has been practically done with recent work to stop them.

But after a couple of months please tell me how the living hell can they say to what percentage it is effective ?

Effectiveness is based on how many antibodies and t cells you produce. These get produced relatively quickly rather than years later for obvious reasons.

But the talk of mandatory vaccination or blackmail ie travel and restrictions would not be needed if this vaccine had gone through the stringent testing that it should.

You need vaccines to go to many different countries. Are you saying they are also untested?

And talk of censoring those that question it is also very dangerous.

Well you've questioned it and not been censored so...

Those that wish to take it then Carry on but would you willingly have your own children vaccinated ?

Yes

Pity they can’t find a vaccination against dementia and cancer etc isn’t it ? Wakey wakey

There are vaccines against cancer and they're making one that helps fight alzehemiers but there is a difference between countering viruses or bacteria and countering your own body changing.

so in a nutshell... all the procedures and safeguards put in place across the world by top medical experts were a crock of shit....
what a bunch of beauts....

And as I understand they have dispensed with liability in case of these vaccines being unsafe. Many of you on here was to young when they told pregnant women that Thalidomide was a very safe drug and look what happened there.
There are reasons why it takes around 6 years to produce and test a vaccine and speeding it up and cutting red tape is laughable.
But after a couple of months please tell me how the living hell can they say to what percentage it is effective ? They can’t and you have got to be f*cking brainwashed or frightened enough to believe such a claim.
Agree with a poster that those saying that 5g chips inserted in this vaccine does not help at all that is madness. But the talk of mandatory vaccination or blackmail ie travel and restrictions would not be needed if this vaccine had gone through the stringent testing that it should. And talk of censoring those that question it is also very dangerous.
Those that wish to take it then Cary on but would you willingly have your own children vaccinated ?
For me to many people would believe anything if they said it would control this so say pandemic.
Pity they can’t find a vaccination against dementia and cancer etc isn’t it ? Wakey wakey

Sweet Jesus.....I don’t know where to begin with this. It isn’t the 1970’s and medical science has come a long way since we electrocuted people or cut out part of the frontal lobe of the brain for with depression. Computer tech makes analysis of the virus and how to counter it, aswell as new drugs far far quicker than it used to, this is one if the biggest factors in reducing the time to bring a new drug into the public domain. We don’t need to wait 5 years to see if it works. Why should we? We have lots of new cancer treatments we didn’t have 10 years ago, 25 years ago we hardly had any! Dementia is one of the trickiest as we still don’t understand half of what the brain does.
Come in nukes you’ll be saying the yanks took down the twin towers next

indeed....teams all over the world are tasked with making a vaccine.... abracadabra 6 months later each different team has not only developed one that works, but they are all different, and all have incredibly high effectiveness....

its a virus and a vaccine for christ sakes..not a TV show where 10 teams race to make a raft out of twigs and then negotiate a pond...

You were saying it's like the flu and a vaccine would take either take years or never happen and that we should all carry on as if nothing had happened a few weeks ago, I told you it wouldn't take long as all the best brains in the world were working on this vaccine as it is a global problem. Of course the results were going to come close together as they started at the same time and it looks like it took about ten months to crack!

And as I understand they have dispensed with liability in case of these vaccines being unsafe. Many of you on here was to young when they told pregnant women that Thalidomide was a very safe drug and look what happened there.
There are reasons why it takes around 6 years to produce and test a vaccine and speeding it up and cutting red tape is laughable.
But after a couple of months please tell me how the living hell can they say to what percentage it is effective ? They can’t and you have got to be f*cking brainwashed or frightened enough to believe such a claim.
Agree with a poster that those saying that 5g chips inserted in this vaccine does not help at all that is madness. But the talk of mandatory vaccination or blackmail ie travel and restrictions would not be needed if this vaccine had gone through the stringent testing that it should. And talk of censoring those that question it is also very dangerous.
Those that wish to take it then Cary on but would you willingly have your own children vaccinated ?
For me to many people would believe anything if they said it would control this so say pandemic.
Pity they can’t find a vaccination against dementia and cancer etc isn’t it ? Wakey wakey

Sweet Jesus.....I don’t know where to begin with this. It isn’t the 1970’s and medical science has come a long way since we electrocuted people or cut out part of the frontal lobe of the brain for with depression. Computer tech makes analysis of the virus and how to counter it, aswell as new drugs far far quicker than it used to, this is one if the biggest factors in reducing the time to bring a new drug into the public domain. We don’t need to wait 5 years to see if it works. Why should we? We have lots of new cancer treatments we didn’t have 10 years ago, 25 years ago we hardly had any! Dementia is one of the trickiest as we still don’t understand half of what the brain does.
Come in nukes you’ll be saying the yanks took down the twin towers next

indeed....teams all over the world are tasked with making a vaccine.... abracadabra 6 months later each different team has not only developed one that works, but they are all different, and all have incredibly high effectiveness....

its a virus and a vaccine for christ sakes..not a TV show where 10 teams race to make a raft out of twigs and then negotiate a pond...

You were saying it's like the flu and a vaccine would take either take years or never happen and that we should all carry on as if nothing had happened a few weeks ago, I told you it wouldn't take long as all the best brains in the world were working on this vaccine as it is a global problem. Of course the results were going to come close together as they started at the same time and it looks like it took about ten months to crack!

yes its so obvious that your going to get different vaccines that all work incredibly well at all the same time because they started at the same time.. how there is any illness or death on this planet is truly a mystery..