Mon Nov 09, 2020 4:37 pm
Mon Nov 09, 2020 4:44 pm
Bluebina wrote:Pfizer vaccine is more than 90% effective great news![]()
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9 others in the final stages too, this is the game changer![]()
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Medical staff will start to get it in the UK before Christmas
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/health-54873105
http://cardiffcityforum.co.uk/viewforum ... 8119dcb097
Mon Nov 09, 2020 5:49 pm
Mon Nov 09, 2020 6:07 pm
bluesince62 wrote:Wow! Over 90% effective?? Yet the flu vaccine,after donkeys years of research,averages out arond 40/60% effective(cdc figure)and has around 76% effective rate in hiv adults! Thats some going by the scientists/researchers,and so quick in developing a jab with huge % success rate,against a virus!! Perhaps now they can cure that killer of millions,the good old flu itself.
With a proposed success rate that high,no need for testing then? After all,the vaccine will succeed in over 90% of those that take it?
Mon Nov 09, 2020 7:02 pm
Bluebina wrote:bluesince62 wrote:Wow! Over 90% effective?? Yet the flu vaccine,after donkeys years of research,averages out arond 40/60% effective(cdc figure)and has around 76% effective rate in hiv adults! Thats some going by the scientists/researchers,and so quick in developing a jab with huge % success rate,against a virus!! Perhaps now they can cure that killer of millions,the good old flu itself.
With a proposed success rate that high,no need for testing then? After all,the vaccine will succeed in over 90% of those that take it?
It's a different type of vaccine it doesn't give you covid 19, it works in a different way and must be more effective, I've always thought we would get a vaccine early, as the best brains in the world have been working on it.
Mon Nov 09, 2020 7:50 pm
pembroke allan wrote:Bluebina wrote:bluesince62 wrote:Wow! Over 90% effective?? Yet the flu vaccine,after donkeys years of research,averages out arond 40/60% effective(cdc figure)and has around 76% effective rate in hiv adults! Thats some going by the scientists/researchers,and so quick in developing a jab with huge % success rate,against a virus!! Perhaps now they can cure that killer of millions,the good old flu itself.
With a proposed success rate that high,no need for testing then? After all,the vaccine will succeed in over 90% of those that take it?
It's a different type of vaccine it doesn't give you covid 19, it works in a different way and must be more effective, I've always thought we would get a vaccine early, as the best brains in the world have been working on it.
Think people need to take a look at what's being said about it? And it sounds positive the searches for all the vaccines but unfortunately finding one and giving it to population is another thing? More than one hoop to jump through to get it to the public and undoubtedly a setback or two as well.
Mon Nov 09, 2020 7:52 pm
pembroke allan wrote:Bluebina wrote:bluesince62 wrote:Wow! Over 90% effective?? Yet the flu vaccine,after donkeys years of research,averages out arond 40/60% effective(cdc figure)and has around 76% effective rate in hiv adults! Thats some going by the scientists/researchers,and so quick in developing a jab with huge % success rate,against a virus!! Perhaps now they can cure that killer of millions,the good old flu itself.
With a proposed success rate that high,no need for testing then? After all,the vaccine will succeed in over 90% of those that take it?
It's a different type of vaccine it doesn't give you covid 19, it works in a different way and must be more effective, I've always thought we would get a vaccine early, as the best brains in the world have been working on it.
Think people need to take a look at what's being said about it? And it sounds positive the searches for all the vaccines but unfortunately finding one and giving it to population is another thing? More than one hoop to jump through to get it to the public and undoubtedly a setback or two as well.
Tue Nov 10, 2020 7:14 am
Tue Nov 10, 2020 9:04 am
nubbsy wrote:Before you get excited or put some chemical in your arm why don't you do some research into Pfizer and what they're all about. They are an awful, corrupt pharma company that's been sued bigger and disgraced more times than anyone in the game. Been busted given live human trials for vaccines in Africa causing deaths to many people in the past amongst other incidents which led to some of the biggest law suits ever. They are not to be trusted. Make your own mind up of course but at least do some research.
Tue Nov 10, 2020 9:07 am
skidemin wrote:pembroke allan wrote:Bluebina wrote:bluesince62 wrote:Wow! Over 90% effective?? Yet the flu vaccine,after donkeys years of research,averages out arond 40/60% effective(cdc figure)and has around 76% effective rate in hiv adults! Thats some going by the scientists/researchers,and so quick in developing a jab with huge % success rate,against a virus!! Perhaps now they can cure that killer of millions,the good old flu itself.
With a proposed success rate that high,no need for testing then? After all,the vaccine will succeed in over 90% of those that take it?
It's a different type of vaccine it doesn't give you covid 19, it works in a different way and must be more effective, I've always thought we would get a vaccine early, as the best brains in the world have been working on it.
Think people need to take a look at what's being said about it? And it sounds positive the searches for all the vaccines but unfortunately finding one and giving it to population is another thing? More than one hoop to jump through to get it to the public and undoubtedly a setback or two as well.
our leader Firebrakeford just said its not a magic bullet...all this does is allow them to continue with restrictions... christmas day is only 7 weeks away..be a good little soldier and santa will give you a jonny seven....just hope and cross fingers the jonny 7 factory doesnt close...
Tue Nov 10, 2020 10:22 am
Bluebina wrote:nubbsy wrote:Before you get excited or put some chemical in your arm why don't you do some research into Pfizer and what they're all about. They are an awful, corrupt pharma company that's been sued bigger and disgraced more times than anyone in the game. Been busted given live human trials for vaccines in Africa causing deaths to many people in the past amongst other incidents which led to some of the biggest law suits ever. They are not to be trusted. Make your own mind up of course but at least do some research.
This was produced by BioNtech, a couple in Germany in conjunction with Pfizer and has been tested on 44,000 with the most stringent testing, people have had a slight pain in the arm, a tiny percentage had a mild fever and aching limbs for a day or two.
Professor Sir John Bell the AstraZeneca Oxford vaccine and the Moderna Therapeutics are just a few weeks behind and use the same process so he is sure they will work equally as well, so the UK may end up with various vaccines depending on how easy they are to administer and transport.
The main thing is we've had a massive breakthrough and this method can be used for other viruses and future pendamics, it's good news no matter how you look at it!![]()
Tue Nov 10, 2020 10:46 am
bluebirdoct1962 wrote:Bluebina wrote:nubbsy wrote:Before you get excited or put some chemical in your arm why don't you do some research into Pfizer and what they're all about. They are an awful, corrupt pharma company that's been sued bigger and disgraced more times than anyone in the game. Been busted given live human trials for vaccines in Africa causing deaths to many people in the past amongst other incidents which led to some of the biggest law suits ever. They are not to be trusted. Make your own mind up of course but at least do some research.
This was produced by BioNtech, a couple in Germany in conjunction with Pfizer and has been tested on 44,000 with the most stringent testing, people have had a slight pain in the arm, a tiny percentage had a mild fever and aching limbs for a day or two.
Professor Sir John Bell the AstraZeneca Oxford vaccine and the Moderna Therapeutics are just a few weeks behind and use the same process so he is sure they will work equally as well, so the UK may end up with various vaccines depending on how easy they are to administer and transport.
The main thing is we've had a massive breakthrough and this method can be used for other viruses and future pendamics, it's good news no matter how you look at it!![]()
It’s definitely a massive positive mate. Politicians and scientists are all agreeing this. If one looks hard enough there’s always the possibility of putting a negative spin on it unfortunately.
I think it’s brilliant news. Made my day yesterday.
Tue Nov 10, 2020 10:47 am
bluebirdoct1962 wrote:Bluebina wrote:nubbsy wrote:Before you get excited or put some chemical in your arm why don't you do some research into Pfizer and what they're all about. They are an awful, corrupt pharma company that's been sued bigger and disgraced more times than anyone in the game. Been busted given live human trials for vaccines in Africa causing deaths to many people in the past amongst other incidents which led to some of the biggest law suits ever. They are not to be trusted. Make your own mind up of course but at least do some research.
This was produced by BioNtech, a couple in Germany in conjunction with Pfizer and has been tested on 44,000 with the most stringent testing, people have had a slight pain in the arm, a tiny percentage had a mild fever and aching limbs for a day or two.
Professor Sir John Bell the AstraZeneca Oxford vaccine and the Moderna Therapeutics are just a few weeks behind and use the same process so he is sure they will work equally as well, so the UK may end up with various vaccines depending on how easy they are to administer and transport.
The main thing is we've had a massive breakthrough and this method can be used for other viruses and future pendamics, it's good news no matter how you look at it!![]()
It’s definitely a massive positive mate. Politicians and scientists are all agreeing this. If one looks hard enough there’s always the possibility of putting a negative spin on it unfortunately.
I think it’s brilliant news. Made my day yesterday.
Tue Nov 10, 2020 12:40 pm
Tue Nov 10, 2020 1:47 pm
skidemin wrote:bluebirdoct1962 wrote:Bluebina wrote:nubbsy wrote:Before you get excited or put some chemical in your arm why don't you do some research into Pfizer and what they're all about. They are an awful, corrupt pharma company that's been sued bigger and disgraced more times than anyone in the game. Been busted given live human trials for vaccines in Africa causing deaths to many people in the past amongst other incidents which led to some of the biggest law suits ever. They are not to be trusted. Make your own mind up of course but at least do some research.
This was produced by BioNtech, a couple in Germany in conjunction with Pfizer and has been tested on 44,000 with the most stringent testing, people have had a slight pain in the arm, a tiny percentage had a mild fever and aching limbs for a day or two.
Professor Sir John Bell the AstraZeneca Oxford vaccine and the Moderna Therapeutics are just a few weeks behind and use the same process so he is sure they will work equally as well, so the UK may end up with various vaccines depending on how easy they are to administer and transport.
The main thing is we've had a massive breakthrough and this method can be used for other viruses and future pendamics, it's good news no matter how you look at it!![]()
It’s definitely a massive positive mate. Politicians and scientists are all agreeing this. If one looks hard enough there’s always the possibility of putting a negative spin on it unfortunately.
I think it’s brilliant news. Made my day yesterday.
find it concerning.... no drugs or vacines are pushed through at this rate, and for damn good reason... trials and tests which are now being ignored were not put in place because of negativity..
now ,those most negative about covid itself are the most positive about the thing possibly they should have the greater concern over... i wont be first in the queue for it thats for sure..bina can give it a go and if in a years time he hasnt got an arm growing out his ear i may consider it...
Tue Nov 10, 2020 1:49 pm
Nuclearblue wrote:90% effective for a Virus which constantly mutates ? Hmmmm years of the influenza vaccines that also constantly mutates only has a 30% effectiveness. Trials for any vaccine takes around six years to be able to test and if it’s safe and if it works.
And also is it a coincidence that they have declared Biden the winner of the presidential elections and they have found a vaccine for Covid19 within hours![]()
Well anyone wants to take it then crack on I think I will give it a wide wide berth.
Tue Nov 10, 2020 2:07 pm
Bluebina wrote:skidemin wrote:bluebirdoct1962 wrote:Bluebina wrote:nubbsy wrote:Before you get excited or put some chemical in your arm why don't you do some research into Pfizer and what they're all about. They are an awful, corrupt pharma company that's been sued bigger and disgraced more times than anyone in the game. Been busted given live human trials for vaccines in Africa causing deaths to many people in the past amongst other incidents which led to some of the biggest law suits ever. They are not to be trusted. Make your own mind up of course but at least do some research.
This was produced by BioNtech, a couple in Germany in conjunction with Pfizer and has been tested on 44,000 with the most stringent testing, people have had a slight pain in the arm, a tiny percentage had a mild fever and aching limbs for a day or two.
Professor Sir John Bell the AstraZeneca Oxford vaccine and the Moderna Therapeutics are just a few weeks behind and use the same process so he is sure they will work equally as well, so the UK may end up with various vaccines depending on how easy they are to administer and transport.
The main thing is we've had a massive breakthrough and this method can be used for other viruses and future pendamics, it's good news no matter how you look at it!![]()
It’s definitely a massive positive mate. Politicians and scientists are all agreeing this. If one looks hard enough there’s always the possibility of putting a negative spin on it unfortunately.
I think it’s brilliant news. Made my day yesterday.
find it concerning.... no drugs or vacines are pushed through at this rate, and for damn good reason... trials and tests which are now being ignored were not put in place because of negativity..
now ,those most negative about covid itself are the most positive about the thing possibly they should have the greater concern over... i wont be first in the queue for it thats for sure..bina can give it a go and if in a years time he hasnt got an arm growing out his ear i may consider it...
Ha ha I've had every vaccine recommended and so have my children, just two arms and great health, no tablets or medication needed, but when that changes I will take advice from an expert, my doctor.![]()
Treorchy kwik fit fitters can do a wheel change quite safely, but Lewis Hamilton's team need a quicker change than that because they are in an important race against time, they do it 100 times quicker and safer because they are the best in the world at what they do.![]()
The testing has been done just at a much quicker pace because it's a top priority, it just shows when you get the best brains in the world together on a project they can crack it in eight months, they should stick together and solve a few more medical problems going forward.
I'm in the ninth tranch of eleven but will take it immediately when called, I'm happy to have it to protect myself and as a consequence everyone else, that will help stop future lockdowns and restrictions, I can't wait for life to come back to normal.
Tue Nov 10, 2020 2:44 pm
Bluebina wrote:Nuclearblue wrote:90% effective for a Virus which constantly mutates ? Hmmmm years of the influenza vaccines that also constantly mutates only has a 30% effectiveness. Trials for any vaccine takes around six years to be able to test and if it’s safe and if it works.
And also is it a coincidence that they have declared Biden the winner of the presidential elections and they have found a vaccine for Covid19 within hours![]()
Well anyone wants to take it then crack on I think I will give it a wide wide berth.
That's fine mate, as long as some take it, we can stop stupid life restricting lockdowns, as long as the really old and weak get it, no country needs everyone to get it!
Tue Nov 10, 2020 2:47 pm
Tue Nov 10, 2020 3:37 pm
maccydee wrote:I just hope 70% agree to take it else we might not get back to normal.
While not remaining in lockdown, I’m not sure those that refuse to take it should be allowed to certain events. Just my thought I can’t see it being policy.
Tue Nov 10, 2020 4:00 pm
Tue Nov 10, 2020 4:07 pm
Sven wrote:What about the 10% it doesn't work for' and those who cannot take it for other medical reasons?![]()
Maybe not as cut and dried at it is being perceived but it's certainly a step in the right direction
Tue Nov 10, 2020 4:14 pm
skidemin wrote:Sven wrote:What about the 10% it doesn't work for' and those who cannot take it for other medical reasons?![]()
Maybe not as cut and dried at it is being perceived but it's certainly a step in the right direction
dont matter mate...the nazis got the bit between their teeth...ban..restrict..exclude..incentivise. zeig heil and theyll all have their poppys on while saying it...
Tue Nov 10, 2020 4:52 pm
WestCoastBlue wrote:skidemin wrote:Sven wrote:What about the 10% it doesn't work for' and those who cannot take it for other medical reasons?![]()
Maybe not as cut and dried at it is being perceived but it's certainly a step in the right direction
dont matter mate...the nazis got the bit between their teeth...ban..restrict..exclude..incentivise. zeig heil and theyll all have their poppys on while saying it...
What?
Tue Nov 10, 2020 5:06 pm
skidemin wrote:Sven wrote:What about the 10% it doesn't work for' and those who cannot take it for other medical reasons?![]()
Maybe not as cut and dried at it is being perceived but it's certainly a step in the right direction
dont matter mate...the nazis got the bit between their teeth...ban..restrict..exclude..incentivise. zeig heil and theyll all have their poppys on while saying it...
Tue Nov 10, 2020 5:21 pm
Welshman in CA wrote:WestCoastBlue wrote:skidemin wrote:Sven wrote:What about the 10% it doesn't work for' and those who cannot take it for other medical reasons?![]()
Maybe not as cut and dried at it is being perceived but it's certainly a step in the right direction
dont matter mate...the nazis got the bit between their teeth...ban..restrict..exclude..incentivise. zeig heil and theyll all have their poppys on while saying it...
What?
You'll learn to just ignore him & feel so much better for it as he adds nothing to a conversation.
Tue Nov 10, 2020 5:37 pm
Welshman in CA wrote:WestCoastBlue wrote:skidemin wrote:Sven wrote:What about the 10% it doesn't work for' and those who cannot take it for other medical reasons?![]()
Maybe not as cut and dried at it is being perceived but it's certainly a step in the right direction
dont matter mate...the nazis got the bit between their teeth...ban..restrict..exclude..incentivise. zeig heil and theyll all have their poppys on while saying it...
What?
You'll learn to just ignore him & feel so much better for it as he adds nothing to a conversation.
Tue Nov 10, 2020 5:37 pm
maccydee wrote:I just hope 70% agree to take it else we might not get back to normal.
While not remaining in lockdown, I’m not sure those that refuse to take it should be allowed to certain events. Just my thought I can’t see it being policy.
Tue Nov 10, 2020 5:39 pm
maccydee wrote:skidemin wrote:Sven wrote:What about the 10% it doesn't work for' and those who cannot take it for other medical reasons?![]()
Maybe not as cut and dried at it is being perceived but it's certainly a step in the right direction
dont matter mate...the nazis got the bit between their teeth...ban..restrict..exclude..incentivise. zeig heil and theyll all have their poppys on while saying it...
That’s f*cking ridiculous.
I want my mum and old man to be able to go out. Hopefully the vaccine will be effective for them but I don’t want them at risk by someone whose reasons for not taking it are because I’m being told to.
Tue Nov 10, 2020 5:45 pm
Bluebina wrote:Welshman in CA wrote:WestCoastBlue wrote:skidemin wrote:Sven wrote:What about the 10% it doesn't work for' and those who cannot take it for other medical reasons?![]()
Maybe not as cut and dried at it is being perceived but it's certainly a step in the right direction
dont matter mate...the nazis got the bit between their teeth...ban..restrict..exclude..incentivise. zeig heil and theyll all have their poppys on while saying it...
What?
You'll learn to just ignore him & feel so much better for it as he adds nothing to a conversation.
I just had a text saying, Some people complaining about taking a vaccine designed by the worlds best scientists, but they'll take coke from a dealer called Kev with 2 teeth and 26 kids, it makes no sense!
Too true!