The very different opposition view

The very different opposition view


I always take a look at what the opposition manager has had to say after a game and Dean Holden's verdict stuck out to me.





Bristol City Manager Dean Holden:

“I don’t think they created too many chances," he said of Cardiff.

"We had to fight for everything and I am just so proud of the performance.”

It is clear that, despite the sheer volume of pressure Cardiff put on, Holden and Bristol City never really felt under any threat.

The Robins boss lauded his players throughout the evening for their organisation and structure, which limited Cardiff to very few clear-cut scoring opportunities.

The difference in opinion between the two managers is certainly stark and serves to prove just how comfortably Bristol dealt with Cardiff's efforts in the final third of the pitch.

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Hes spot on

I said on the night that Bristol did a job on us. Its the exact type of performance we were used to under Warnock.

They allowed us to have the ball knowing we couldn't hurt them from open play. It made us look like we were the better team but in reality they beat us pretty easily they just had to score and sit there like most teams this season against us.

In Harris formation we rely on set pieces and luck which is predictable and easy to defend against. Tuesday night we attacked Barnsley with a different formation and passed the ball looking good.

Was that the players decision to try something different after the apparent talk they had in the changing room the game before and this was Harris going back to his plans ? It seems that way, why would you change a winning team and formation to go back to something that had failed week after week ?

They didn’t deal with all our attacking efforts easily. They allowed us 4/5 clear cut chances because of poor marking and they allowed too many crosses to come into their box.

Unfortunately we didn’t take any of these chances because our finishing was very poor. On another day we would have scored at least 2 or 3 goals

We weren’t very good but overall we were a lot better than them

They didn’t deal with all our attacking efforts easily. They allowed us 4/5 clear cut chances because of poor marking and they allowed too many crosses to come into their box.

Unfortunately we didn’t take any of these chances because our finishing was very poor. On another day we would have scored at least 2 or 3 goals

We weren’t very good but overall we were a lot better than them

I agree,we created,but lack that clinical striker,moore needs a rest imo.

They didn’t deal with all our attacking efforts easily. They allowed us 4/5 clear cut chances because of poor marking and they allowed too many crosses to come into their box.

Unfortunately we didn’t take any of these chances because our finishing was very poor. On another day we would have scored at least 2 or 3 goals

We weren’t very good but overall we were a lot better than them

Easy to say what he did when you score in 1st minute and win 1-0.... we had really good chances to score plus allowed us crosses into their area but inaccurate crossing from us helped them! Suppose his game plan was to score 1st minute and defend for rest of 89mins left? They were lucky to get away with the points its that simple...

Hes spot on

I said on the night that Bristol did a job on us. Its the exact type of performance we were used to under Warnock.

They allowed us to have the ball knowing we couldn't hurt them from open play. It made us look like we were the better team but in reality they beat us pretty easily they just had to score and sit there like most teams this season against us.

In Harris formation we rely on set pieces and luck which is predictable and easy to defend against. Tuesday night we attacked Barnsley with a different formation and passed the ball looking good.

Was that the players decision to try something different after the apparent talk they had in the changing room the game before and this was Harris going back to his plans ? It seems that way, why would you change a winning team and formation to go back to something that had failed week after week ?

So we win and its the players who deserve the credit, we lose and its because of Harris?

We had some very good chances to score Friday but we wasted them. They may have won but it wasnt easy. Bristol are a much better team than Barnsley, Barnsley will probably be in relegation scrap and Bristol will be pushing for promotion, that's why we put the extra man in midfield. Wilson at 10 is hardly going defensive either.

They didn’t deal with all our attacking efforts easily. They allowed us 4/5 clear cut chances because of poor marking and they allowed too many crosses to come into their box.

Unfortunately we didn’t take any of these chances because our finishing was very poor. On another day we would have scored at least 2 or 3 goals

We weren’t very good but overall we were a lot better than them

where were these clear clear cut chances ?

Moore had a point blank header over the bar that should have made it 1 v 1. The keeper tipped another header around the post. Wilson had chances too. A draw was the least we deserved. Bristol battled hard but hardly did a job on us. The result was down to our failings to score not because of a Bristol great performance. Sometimes luck comes into football. Just not out night.

They didn’t deal with all our attacking efforts easily. They allowed us 4/5 clear cut chances because of poor marking and they allowed too many crosses to come into their box.

Unfortunately we didn’t take any of these chances because our finishing was very poor. On another day we would have scored at least 2 or 3 goals

We weren’t very good but overall we were a lot better than them

where were these clear clear cut chances


Clear chance is not getting shot header on target is it? Running through only keeper to beat but shoots 10yds wide thats a chance is it not? city players had several good opportunities to do better than they did moore heading tamely at keeper and wide springs to mind Wilson another.. but there again one persons chance is not someone else's.... let's just say city players had several opportunities to do better than they did but didn't.

They didn’t deal with all our attacking efforts easily. They allowed us 4/5 clear cut chances because of poor marking and they allowed too many crosses to come into their box.

Unfortunately we didn’t take any of these chances because our finishing was very poor. On another day we would have scored at least 2 or 3 goals

We weren’t very good but overall we were a lot better than them

where were these clear clear cut chances


Clear chance is not getting shot header on target is it? Running through only keeper to beat but shoots 10yds wide thats a chance is it not? city players had several good opportunities to do better than they did moore heading tamely at keeper and wide springs to mind Wilson another.. but there again one persons chance is not someone else's.... let's just say city players had several opportunities to do better than they did but didn't.

I agree with that summary,we were poor in front of goal,got caught napping after 90 secs,like we did to Barnsley, only they failed to test smithies thereafter.

They didn’t deal with all our attacking efforts easily. They allowed us 4/5 clear cut chances because of poor marking and they allowed too many crosses to come into their box.

Unfortunately we didn’t take any of these chances because our finishing was very poor. On another day we would have scored at least 2 or 3 goals

We weren’t very good but overall we were a lot better than them

where were these clear clear cut chances


Clear chance is not getting shot header on target is it? Running through only keeper to beat but shoots 10yds wide thats a chance is it not? city players had several good opportunities to do better than they did moore heading tamely at keeper and wide springs to mind Wilson another.. but there again one persons chance is not someone else's.... let's just say city players had several opportunities to do better than they did but didn't.

I agree with that summary,we were poor in front of goal,got caught napping after 90 secs,like we did to Barnsley, only they failed to test smithies thereafter.

They didn’t deal with all our attacking efforts easily. They allowed us 4/5 clear cut chances because of poor marking and they allowed too many crosses to come into their box.

Unfortunately we didn’t take any of these chances because our finishing was very poor. On another day we would have scored at least 2 or 3 goals

We weren’t very good but overall we were a lot better than them

where were these clear clear cut chances


Clear chance is not getting shot header on target is it? Running through only keeper to beat but shoots 10yds wide thats a chance is it not? city players had several good opportunities to do better than they did moore heading tamely at keeper and wide springs to mind Wilson another.. but there again one persons chance is not someone else's.... let's just say city players had several opportunities to do better than they did but didn't.

I agree with that summary,we were poor in front of goal,got caught napping after 90 secs,like we did to Barnsley, only they failed to test smithies thereafter.

Judging by other comments on game other people dont have same opinion of what constitutes a chance? I highlighted 3 but there was more where you could say city had opportunities to score but poor decision making or shooting/heading resulting in opportunities not taken.

I felt we were just better than them, but failed to finish , Moore looked tired as did Holilet.

These two game a week is tough unless you have a very good squad to pick from .

Pity we didn't pair Moore with Glatzel from the start ,thought that worked against Barnsley .

When is Murphy ever going to turn up, or is he jyst going through the motions and waiting his time to get out of the club , 10 million fee disgrace ?

The annoying thing for me is the sky commentators keep on saying how good we are at set pieces yet we were hopeless at them against Bristol. We had an endless succession of corners which came to nothing as for the long throws the less said the better. I would not mind the poor passing and lack of creativity if could actually score a few goals from set pieces. Morrison seems to have gone from being excellent at corners and free kicks to never scoring partly because he is well marked and Moore isn't quite as good as we thought he was.

They didn’t deal with all our attacking efforts easily. They allowed us 4/5 clear cut chances because of poor marking and they allowed too many crosses to come into their box.

Unfortunately we didn’t take any of these chances because our finishing was very poor. On another day we would have scored at least 2 or 3 goals

We weren’t very good but overall we were a lot better than them

where were these clear clear cut chances


Clear chance is not getting shot header on target is it? Running through only keeper to beat but shoots 10yds wide thats a chance is it not? city players had several good opportunities to do better than they did moore heading tamely at keeper and wide springs to mind Wilson another.. but there again one persons chance is not someone else's.... let's just say city players had several opportunities to do better than they did but didn't.

I agree with that summary,we were poor in front of goal,got caught napping after 90 secs,like we did to Barnsley, only they failed to test smithies thereafter.

Judging by other comments on game other people dont have same opinion of what constitutes a chance? I highlighted 3 but there was more where you could say city had opportunities to score but poor decision making or shooting/heading resulting in opportunities not taken.

clear cut chances for me are where the chances of the player scoring are greater than him not scoring.
found this ..which is more or less how i saw it..
their keeper got himself into some decent positions which of course makes shooting/ heading more difficult but didnt actually make a save

https://www.infogol.net/en/matches/resu ... 1-06/76932

They didn’t deal with all our attacking efforts easily. They allowed us 4/5 clear cut chances because of poor marking and they allowed too many crosses to come into their box.

Unfortunately we didn’t take any of these chances because our finishing was very poor. On another day we would have scored at least 2 or 3 goals

We weren’t very good but overall we were a lot better than them

I agree,we created,but lack that clinical striker,moore needs a rest imo.

Totally agree

They didn’t deal with all our attacking efforts easily. They allowed us 4/5 clear cut chances because of poor marking and they allowed too many crosses to come into their box.

Unfortunately we didn’t take any of these chances because our finishing was very poor. On another day we would have scored at least 2 or 3 goals

We weren’t very good but overall we were a lot better than them

where were these clear clear cut chances


Clear chance is not getting shot header on target is it? Running through only keeper to beat but shoots 10yds wide thats a chance is it not? city players had several good opportunities to do better than they did moore heading tamely at keeper and wide springs to mind Wilson another.. but there again one persons chance is not someone else's.... let's just say city players had several opportunities to do better than they did but didn't.

I agree with that summary,we were poor in front of goal,got caught napping after 90 secs,like we did to Barnsley, only they failed to test smithies thereafter.

Judging by other comments on game other people dont have same opinion of what constitutes a chance? I highlighted 3 but there was more where you could say city had opportunities to score but poor decision making or shooting/heading resulting in opportunities not taken.

clear cut chances for me are where the chances of the player scoring are greater than him not scoring.
found this ..which is more or less how i saw it..
their keeper got himself into some decent positions which of course makes shooting/ heading more difficult but didnt actually make a save

https://www.infogol.net/en/matches/resu ... 1-06/76932[/quote


That's your opinion which obviously differs from myself and others but thats ok so will agree to disagree in that we didn't create one chance like Wilson's header strait at keeper from 6yards out! ....

They didn’t deal with all our attacking efforts easily. They allowed us 4/5 clear cut chances because of poor marking and they allowed too many crosses to come into their box.

Unfortunately we didn’t take any of these chances because our finishing was very poor. On another day we would have scored at least 2 or 3 goals

We weren’t very good but overall we were a lot better than them

where were these clear clear cut chances


Clear chance is not getting shot header on target is it? Running through only keeper to beat but shoots 10yds wide thats a chance is it not? city players had several good opportunities to do better than they did moore heading tamely at keeper and wide springs to mind Wilson another.. but there again one persons chance is not someone else's.... let's just say city players had several opportunities to do better than they did but didn't.

I agree with that summary,we were poor in front of goal,got caught napping after 90 secs,like we did to Barnsley, only they failed to test smithies thereafter.

Judging by other comments on game other people dont have same opinion of what constitutes a chance? I highlighted 3 but there was more where you could say city had opportunities to score but poor decision making or shooting/heading resulting in opportunities not taken.

clear cut chances for me are where the chances of the player scoring are greater than him not scoring.
found this ..which is more or less how i saw it..
their keeper got himself into some decent positions which of course makes shooting/ heading more difficult but didnt actually make a save

https://www.infogol.net/en/matches/resu ... 1-06/76932[/quote


That's your opinion which obviously differs from myself and others but thats ok so will agree to disagree in that we didn't create one chance like Wilson's header strait at keeper from 6yards out! ....

your calling that ball that bounced up at Wilson a chance..

They didn’t deal with all our attacking efforts easily. They allowed us 4/5 clear cut chances because of poor marking and they allowed too many crosses to come into their box.

Unfortunately we didn’t take any of these chances because our finishing was very poor. On another day we would have scored at least 2 or 3 goals

We weren’t very good but overall we were a lot better than them

where were these clear clear cut chances


Clear chance is not getting shot header on target is it? Running through only keeper to beat but shoots 10yds wide thats a chance is it not? city players had several good opportunities to do better than they did moore heading tamely at keeper and wide springs to mind Wilson another.. but there again one persons chance is not someone else's.... let's just say city players had several opportunities to do better than they did but didn't.

I agree with that summary,we were poor in front of goal,got caught napping after 90 secs,like we did to Barnsley, only they failed to test smithies thereafter.

Judging by other comments on game other people dont have same opinion of what constitutes a chance? I highlighted 3 but there was more where you could say city had opportunities to score but poor decision making or shooting/heading resulting in opportunities not taken.

clear cut chances for me are where the chances of the player scoring are greater than him not scoring.
found this ..which is more or less how i saw it..
their keeper got himself into some decent positions which of course makes shooting/ heading more difficult but didnt actually make a save

https://www.infogol.net/en/matches/resu ... 1-06/76932[/quote


That's your opinion which obviously differs from myself and others but thats ok so will agree to disagree in that we didn't create one chance like Wilson's header strait at keeper from 6yards out! ....

your calling that ball that bounced up at Wilson a chance..

Why not it was at head height and he got his forehead to ball and headed it strait at keeper what do u call it a back pass? Not sure what you would class as a chance because it seems that it needs to be open goal 2yds out before it is one! If I produce what I view as more chances you would say they wasnt ......because as said I've obviously got different perception of what is a chance

They didn’t deal with all our attacking efforts easily. They allowed us 4/5 clear cut chances because of poor marking and they allowed too many crosses to come into their box.

Unfortunately we didn’t take any of these chances because our finishing was very poor. On another day we would have scored at least 2 or 3 goals

We weren’t very good but overall we were a lot better than them

where were these clear clear cut chances


Clear chance is not getting shot header on target is it? Running through only keeper to beat but shoots 10yds wide thats a chance is it not? city players had several good opportunities to do better than they did moore heading tamely at keeper and wide springs to mind Wilson another.. but there again one persons chance is not someone else's.... let's just say city players had several opportunities to do better than they did but didn't.

I agree with that summary,we were poor in front of goal,got caught napping after 90 secs,like we did to Barnsley, only they failed to test smithies thereafter.

Judging by other comments on game other people dont have same opinion of what constitutes a chance? I highlighted 3 but there was more where you could say city had opportunities to score but poor decision making or shooting/heading resulting in opportunities not taken.

clear cut chances for me are where the chances of the player scoring are greater than him not scoring.
found this ..which is more or less how i saw it..
their keeper got himself into some decent positions which of course makes shooting/ heading more difficult but didnt actually make a save

https://www.infogol.net/en/matches/resu ... 1-06/76932[/quote


That's your opinion which obviously differs from myself and others but thats ok so will agree to disagree in that we didn't create one chance like Wilson's header strait at keeper from 6yards out! ....

your calling that ball that bounced up at Wilson a chance..

Why not it was at head height and he got his forehead to ball and headed it strait at keeper what do u call it a back pass? Not sure what you would class as a chance because it seems that it needs to be open goal 2yds out before it is one! If I produce what I view as more chances you would say they wasnt ......because as said I've obviously got different perception of what is a chance

its when the players chances of scoring are in his favour.. the harry wilson one is an excellent example of things some people choose to see as missed chances that are nothing of the sort... the boy did really well to get purchase and direction on it but it was never going in unless the keeper fell over...

I watched the game - and he's talking out his backside - as you would expect any opposition manager to do. They won 1 nil after a 1st minute goal - is he really trying to pretend for the next 89 minutes that had it all under control ?

Not blaming him for saying it Malky / Warnock / Jones etc would all say the same thing. It's called being wise after the event - and we are all experts at that.

We have a couple of games that have gone against us. We were doing more than ok at the end of the season. Now is not the time to be panicking. How many points are we off the playoffs ? and it's Nov right not April

I watched the game - and he's talking out his backside - as you would expect any opposition manager to do. They won 1 nil after a 1st minute goal - is he really trying to pretend for the next 89 minutes that had it all under control ?

Not blaming him for saying it Malky / Warnock / Jones etc would all say the same thing. It's called being wise after the event - and we are all experts at that.

We have a couple of games that have gone against us. We were doing more than ok at the end of the season. Now is not the time to be panicking. How many points are we off the playoffs ? and it's Nov right not April

Positive attitudes don’t go down well on here

They didn’t deal with all our attacking efforts easily. They allowed us 4/5 clear cut chances because of poor marking and they allowed too many crosses to come into their box.

Unfortunately we didn’t take any of these chances because our finishing was very poor. On another day we would have scored at least 2 or 3 goals

We weren’t very good but overall we were a lot better than them

Agreed, it was a good performance and we should have scored

I watched the game - and he's talking out his backside - as you would expect any opposition manager to do. They won 1 nil after a 1st minute goal - is he really trying to pretend for the next 89 minutes that had it all under control ?

Not blaming him for saying it Malky / Warnock / Jones etc would all say the same thing. It's called being wise after the event - and we are all experts at that.

We have a couple of games that have gone against us. We were doing more than ok at the end of the season. Now is not the time to be panicking. How many points are we off the playoffs ? and it's Nov right not April

Spot on

I watched the game - and he's talking out his backside - as you would expect any opposition manager to do. They won 1 nil after a 1st minute goal - is he really trying to pretend for the next 89 minutes that had it all under control ?

Not blaming him for saying it Malky / Warnock / Jones etc would all say the same thing. It's called being wise after the event - and we are all experts at that.

We have a couple of games that have gone against us. We were doing more than ok at the end of the season. Now is not the time to be panicking. How many points are we off the playoffs ? and it's Nov right not April

Positive attitudes don’t go down well on here

Agreed, a lot of negativity on football and most other subjects, I suppose it could be down to all these lockdowns, people are pretty grumpy and negative right now.