Completely clueless

Against a very limited Bristol City team, we had no idea how to play through or around them, resorting to the long ball.

We simply cannot pass, let alone pass and move.

I said I'd reserve judgement until tonight's game. We are a poor non footballing outfit, who cannot get basics right.

The club, from top brass to the players on the pitch are ripping the enjoyment out of every game.

Against a very limited Bristol City team, we had no idea how to play through or around them, resorting to the long ball.

We simply cannot pass, let alone pass and move.

I said I'd reserve judgement until tonight's game. We are a poor non footballing outfit, who cannot get basics right.

The club, from top brass to the players on the pitch are ripping the enjoyment out of every game.

I saw the headline and initially thought you were being a bit hard on yourself; but on opening it up, I have to agree

Oh give it a rest!!,bristol are 2nd,not f@cking fodder!

We play decent football at times but we cannot for whatever reason keep it up for any length of time! We are like a team in two minds keep possession inside own half and then try quick football but it seems everytime start play well we go back to possession football and that means ending up playing long balls... every pundit on sky when covering our games say we've changed our style? And there lies the problem we cannot make our mins up how we want to play for 90mins.

Didn't think there was too mutch wrong with our passing tonight. The problem was with our strikers and midfielders finishing we made some decent chances but they were spurned. Moore should have scored Bacuna's shooting was woeful even Wilson spurned a couple of half chances. As the commentator said we lack a 20 goal a season forward and we don't have one in Moore either. Not out of the question we might improve but we barely look a playoff side. If we can't score more goals we are going nowhere.

Unfortunately Barnsley were so bad they made us look good. Bristol showed us in a clearer light tonight.

Their first four or five games got them up towards second...they were there for the taking..they have a lot of injuries at the back..we were poor up front with our final ball..Thats why they are second.

Against a very limited Bristol City team, we had no idea how to play through or around them, resorting to the long ball.

We simply cannot pass, let alone pass and move.

I said I'd reserve judgement until tonight's game. We are a poor non footballing outfit, who cannot get basics right.

The club, from top brass to the players on the pitch are ripping the enjoyment out of every game.

Well unfortunately we don't have a footballing board. We have a business man at the top who only knows business and football is not the business he is used to. I honestly believe with these guys in charge this is the best its going to be for us until they are gone.

Totally agree Ian

We play decent football at times but we cannot for whatever reason keep it up for any length of time! We are like a team in two minds keep possession inside own half and then try quick football but it seems everytime start play well we go back to possession football and that means ending up playing long balls... every pundit on sky when covering our games say we've changed our style? And there lies the problem we cannot make our mins up how we want to play for 90mins.

Spot on Allan, we are schizophrenic.

We start 4231 but with full back who barely overlap the half way line forget about the wide forward , Pack come deep to get the ball, Ralls drifts wide to provide an outlet and there are acres of space in the middle. The wide forwards are inverted so they run to goal to support Moore, but never really travel beyond him.

We flip to 442 and keep the wingers inverted. There is no option of the flick on as Glatzel isn't really a sprinter and the inverted winger are still not very close, at least the full backs started crossing the half way line. Josh always cuts onto his right and Harry right isn't as good as his left.

Brizzle done a job on us and that's fine. We don't have a goal threat. A frustrating season on the TV I guess. We won't sack Harris

We play decent football at times but we cannot for whatever reason keep it up for any length of time! We are like a team in two minds keep possession inside own half and then try quick football but it seems everytime start play well we go back to possession football and that means ending up playing long balls... every pundit on sky when covering our games say we've changed our style? And there lies the problem we cannot make our mins up how we want to play for 90mins.

Spot on Allan, we are schizophrenic.

We start 4231 but with full back who barely overlap the half way line forget about the wide forward , Pack come deep to get the ball, Ralls drifts wide to provide an outlet and there are acres of space in the middle. The wide forwards are inverted so they run to goal to support Moore, but never really travel beyond him.

We flip to 442 and keep the wingers inverted. There is no option of the flick on as Glatzel isn't really a sprinter and the inverted winger are still not very close, at least the full backs started crossing the half way line. Josh always cuts onto his right and Harry right isn't as good as his left.

Brizzle done a job on us and that's fine. We don't have a goal threat. A frustrating season on the TV I guess. We won't sack Harris

Interesting, but a few more results like tonight and I think we will sack Harris.

We were the better team by a mile after a dreadful couple of minutes at the start. I think we lost momentum when we put Glatzel on for Ojo. Some on here seem to like it but for me we lost the initiative and started belting long balls which we didn't really do effectively. Wilson is better at 10 than he is out wide.
Having said all that, nothing really fell for us in the box tonight. On another night we would have pinched that.
Think we need our smaller, nippier players up front sometimes instead of playing giants.

BRISTOL ===== 1 SHOT ON TARGET !!!!

Pack and Ralls are very slow with no creativity. Hoilett has poor service from wide positions. We miss Bacuna in midfield. Overall, We are a mid-table side who will have a few good results but revert back to type. There needs to be a change in the whole thinking around the club. To slow, no creativity, revert to long ball.

we lost the game after 2mins.A poor pass from Bennett and 30secs after 1 down.Chasing the game and getting frustrated as the harder they tried the worst it got as our luck was out.We need more of a cutting edge. We got plenty of work horses fair play but take Wilson out no cutting edge.Sadly for me its mid table.Hopefully we are not fighting to avoid the drop.

The fans can defend Harris all they want but the fact of the matter is that we've had 13 points from 11 games and we are 13th in a squad with the likes of Morrison, Wilson, Smithies, etc.

Is this good enough? Do the fans deserve more?

I, for one, am tired of losing. Its gotten to the point where a loss doesn't just feel like one loss anymore but it feels like another loss piled onto a pile of losses. We have lost more games than games won this season. We've also drawn more games than games won this season.

Where is the ambition? The longevity in decisions made by the coaches/board (I would like to stress that I've said coaches and not coach)? Granted, appointing a manager of Harris' age is more positive than someone of Warnock's, Mowbray's or Pulis' age but in the unlikely event that Harris took us to the next level, would he be able to maintain it? This is visible in some of the signings made - Wilson is a quality signing but last season we had Adomah, a veteran to say the least. This year is Moore, not a veteran but similar to Harris, if we progressed to the next level he's another one who's unlikely to maintain his form/prolificacy and would need replacing. A good sign of ambition shown this season has been the promotion of Joel Bagan to the senior team but even that was resorted to after we had no other option. You can defend and argue each separate point I've brought forward in this post but I feel that these points accumulated point to a football club only focused on unsustainable success.

If Warnock was still in charge he would off brought Bamba on as additional firepower but it seemed no matter what we done we just couldn't score. Just one of them games.

The substitutions and the times that they were made, are my only criticism of the manager.

Against a very limited Bristol City team, we had no idea how to play through or around them, resorting to the long ball.

We simply cannot pass, let alone pass and move.

I said I'd reserve judgement until tonight's game. We are a poor non footballing outfit, who cannot get basics right.

The club, from top brass to the players on the pitch are ripping the enjoyment out of every game.

Well unfortunately we don't have a footballing board. We have a business man at the top who only knows business and football is not the business he is used to. I honestly believe with these guys in charge this is the best its going to be for us until they are gone.

Is that the only owner and board in recent times who have actually got us to the premier league?

Against a very limited Bristol City team, we had no idea how to play through or around them, resorting to the long ball.

We simply cannot pass, let alone pass and move.

I said I'd reserve judgement until tonight's game. We are a poor non footballing outfit, who cannot get basics right.

The club, from top brass to the players on the pitch are ripping the enjoyment out of every game.

Well unfortunately we don't have a footballing board. We have a business man at the top who only knows business and football is not the business he is used to. I honestly believe with these guys in charge this is the best its going to be for us until they are gone.

Is that the only owner and board in recent times who have actually got us to the premier league?

Exactly, its also the owner with now over a decade of experience running a top level British football team and multiple others across the world.
He was inexperienced 10 years ago , now he knows the business side of it inside out and has a very good knowledge of British football. Probably better than anyone on this board on how football actually works from the inside not just a fan looking in

Against a very limited Bristol City team, we had no idea how to play through or around them, resorting to the long ball.

We simply cannot pass, let alone pass and move.

I said I'd reserve judgement until tonight's game. We are a poor non footballing outfit, who cannot get basics right.

The club, from top brass to the players on the pitch are ripping the enjoyment out of every game.

Well unfortunately we don't have a footballing board. We have a business man at the top who only knows business and football is not the business he is used to. I honestly believe with these guys in charge this is the best its going to be for us until they are gone.

Is that the only owner and board in recent times who have actually got us to the premier league?

Exactly, its also the owner with now over a decade of experience running a top level British football team and multiple others across the world.
He was inexperienced 10 years ago , now he knows the business side of it inside out and has a very good knowledge of British football. Probably better than anyone on this board on how football actually works from the inside not just a fan looking in

This is the owner who has attended about six games in three years? And the chairman who aspired to buy another club?

Against a very limited Bristol City team, we had no idea how to play through or around them, resorting to the long ball.

We simply cannot pass, let alone pass and move.

I said I'd reserve judgement until tonight's game. We are a poor non footballing outfit, who cannot get basics right.

The club, from top brass to the players on the pitch are ripping the enjoyment out of every game.

Well unfortunately we don't have a footballing board. We have a business man at the top who only knows business and football is not the business he is used to. I honestly believe with these guys in charge this is the best its going to be for us until they are gone.

Is that the only owner and board in recent times who have actually got us to the premier league?

Exactly, its also the owner with now over a decade of experience running a top level British football team and multiple others across the world.
He was inexperienced 10 years ago , now he knows the business side of it inside out and has a very good knowledge of British football. Probably better than anyone on this board on how football actually works from the inside not just a fan looking in

This is the owner who has attended about six games in three years? And the chairman who aspired to buy another club?

Thats probably 6 more games than some owners have attended! And some fans are glad their club owners haven't appeared at games .

Against a very limited Bristol City team, we had no idea how to play through or around them, resorting to the long ball.

We simply cannot pass, let alone pass and move.

I said I'd reserve judgement until tonight's game. We are a poor non footballing outfit, who cannot get basics right.

The club, from top brass to the players on the pitch are ripping the enjoyment out of every game.

Well unfortunately we don't have a footballing board. We have a business man at the top who only knows business and football is not the business he is used to. I honestly believe with these guys in charge this is the best its going to be for us until they are gone.

Is that the only owner and board in recent times who have actually got us to the premier league?

Exactly, its also the owner with now over a decade of experience running a top level British football team and multiple others across the world.
He was inexperienced 10 years ago , now he knows the business side of it inside out and has a very good knowledge of British football. Probably better than anyone on this board on how football actually works from the inside not just a fan looking in

Bloody well said!!

BRISTOL ===== 1 SHOT ON TARGET !!!!

Quite right and the OP's a WUM. We've played a lot worse and won.All the Trumpetts on here love inventing shite.

Well Dean Holden said they had eight players out for tonight game,,, and they had been struggling until tonight’s game,,,, just wondering how we would have fared with eight first team players out injured? We seem to struggle with one or two out injured at the moment.

BRISTOL ===== 1 SHOT ON TARGET !!!!

Quite right and the OP's a WUM. We've played a lot worse and won.All the Trumpetts on here love inventing shite.

unlucky tonite and a better performance than in many games this season...
but its a situ of Harris making , tonights result is the sort of thing you ride if youve already got points in the bag.. and far too many have already escaped us this season..

BRISTOL ===== 1 SHOT ON TARGET !!!!

Quite right and the OP's a WUM. We've played a lot worse and won.All the Trumpetts on here love inventing shite.

unlucky tonite and a better performance than in many games this season...
but its a situ of Harris making , tonights result is the sort of thing you ride if youve already got points in the bag.. and far too many have already escaped us this season..

Your right, far too many points have already escaped us this season,,, and it’s simply not good enough. Exactly How long would one give him to “turn things around”? I think that NH is now at the tipping point, with regards to his tenure, and I detect even the most optimistic of City fans now Having their doubts.

We could still be playing Monday and we wouldn’t have scored

Pack and Ralls are very slow with no creativity. Hoilett has poor service from wide positions. We miss Bacuna in midfield. Overall, We are a mid-table side who will have a few good results but revert back to type. There needs to be a change in the whole thinking around the club. To slow, no creativity, revert to long ball.

I agree mate. For all their effort, the couple of seconds they take to control and look up before passing ensures the opposition can regroup. Bristol broke a few times last night with speedy and accurate first time passing and they cut through our midfield. I realise they only had one shot on target but my point is that we need to move the ball faster and with a little more accuracy and control. Unfortunately one of the two players we have in our squab who can do that is currently injured. I’d go as far as saying if Tomlin had come on for the second half we could well have won that game let alone draw it.

We could still be playing Monday and we wouldn’t have scored

Thats how i saw last nights game.

Against a very limited Bristol City team, we had no idea how to play through or around them, resorting to the long ball.

We simply cannot pass, let alone pass and move.

I said I'd reserve judgement until tonight's game. We are a poor non footballing outfit, who cannot get basics right.

The club, from top brass to the players on the pitch are ripping the enjoyment out of every game.

Jonny,

The committee brought in a cheap manager, a yes manager to do their dirty work for them and clear out half the squad.
Harris even admitted this week, one year later he has reduced the squad drastically, reduced the wage bill and where we are in the League is not what we should be looking at, I disagree 100% all three matter.

Not many good managers would be happy to only be allowed loans after loans and only 3 permanent signings in 12 months, cleared out 23 players(including 10 U23's).

Harris tried to speak out, but was shot down by Dalman, he said heeded 4 players, then said he is happy with his squad.

For me Harris is a very enthusiastic manager, but will never get this team promoted or Cardiff City out of the Championship. Great lower league manager as Millwall found out.

But he suits this CCFC board as Harris is a yes man, done a Slade. They will sack him soon and everyone will say Harris was fully backed, but I disagree he cleared out a massive amount, sold players, but hardly bought anyone.

We have to give Harris credit in Great signings in Kiether Moore and Harry Wilson


its a results game and we are nearly quarter of the way through our season and so far, results def not good enough.