‘ Another blow for Lee Tomlin & Cardiff City ‘

Another blow for Lee Tomlin & Cardiff City

Wednesday 4th November 2020


Cardiff City attacking midfielder Lee Tomlin is facing another spell on the sidelines with a groin injury.

Lee Tomlin through injuries and other issues has been unable to be a regular for Cardiff City and has barely played one in four games since Tomlin first sighed for Cardiff in 2017.

Tomlin has made 52 appearances for Cardiff in three and a half seasons.


The 31-year-old did not feature in Cardiff's 3-0 win over Barnsley on Tuesday night.

Tomlin is an influential figure for the Bluebirds when available but he has had a succession of fitness problems.

"It's just issues with the groin from playing just under 30 minutes the other day," Cardiff manager Neil Harris admitted.

"It doesn't look like he is going to be fit for Friday (against Bristol City) or the coming weeks, so we'll have to see what unfolds daily with Lee Tomlin."

“We could be looking at December at best to see him playing again.”

Tomlin made his fifth appearance of the season as a substitute in Cardiff's defeat at Queens Park Rangers last Saturday.

His absence makes Harry Wilson even more important to Harris.

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I said the other day a few shot me down, we can’t rely on Lee Tomlin because of injuries, suspensions, attitude on and off the pitch and in the past over weight, sadly now it’s injuries again.

On his day I will repeat LEE TOMLIN / TOP QUALITY / But if your consistently not available then your not reliable and City for me should be very careful when renewing his contract.

I have to agree. Tomlin in class BUT unfortunately unreliable

Pointless if he is class but keeps getting injured.

Time to look at replacing him.

Pointless if he is class but keeps getting injured.

Time to look at replacing him.

We’ve got him for another season and a half.

Pointless if he is class but keeps getting injured.

Time to look at replacing him.

We’ve got him for another season and a half.

Not to bad then as he's still useful for
us! while we got Wilson his loss is negated a bit but you would hope contract wont be renued

Always amazes me over the years how many players regain fitness when they are in their last season of a contract.

Looks like NW was correct

The clamour was for him to be given a new contract. Not from everyone but from the majority.

And I remember seeing Warnock get loads of stick over his treatment of Tomlin. Just shows he knows football more than two bit clowns who slate the best manager we have had.

Hasnt taken people long to turn on him for picking up an injury after dragging us into the playoffs last season.

The messiah paid around 3mill for him and was his number 1 transfer target at the time. What exactly was he right about?

Pointless if he is class but keeps getting injured.

Time to look at replacing him.

We’ve got him for another season and a half.

Not to bad then as he's still useful for
us! while we got Wilson his loss is negated a bit but you would hope contract wont be renued

I agree. Even playing a ‘bit part’ I’m certain he’ll continue to earn us quite a few points off the bench.

The clamour was for him to be given a new contract. Not from everyone but from the majority.

And I remember seeing Warnock get loads of stick over his treatment of Tomlin. Just shows he knows football more than two bit clowns who slate the best manager we have had.

Neil, you need to be more Fran and up front with your opinions, so people know exactly where you is coming from...!

You're not far wrong and I won't be slating Tomlin for his unfortunate injuries, as he gives his all when in the team, makes a difference to it, and (I'm reliably informed) is pretty narked when on the sidelines

Lots of the season to go and the run-in post Christmas will see us stretching the squad to its limit, so let's get him fit for that

The clamour was for him to be given a new contract. Not from everyone but from the majority.

And I remember seeing Warnock get loads of stick over his treatment of Tomlin. Just shows he knows football more than two bit clowns who slate the best manager we have had.

Neil, you need to be more Fran and up front with your opinions, so people know exactly where you is coming from...!

You're not far wrong and I won't be slating Tomlin for his unfortunate injuries, as he gives his all when in the team, makes a difference to it, and (I'm reliably informed) is pretty narked when on the sidelines

Lots of the season to go and the run-in post Christmas will see us stretching the squad to its limit, so let's get him fit for that

Have to agree,he was played whilst carrying an injury through the last stretch to get us in the play offs,this was achieved,but I believe he has paid the price,and his injury probably worse now,as a consequence.hes still got a big part to play this season,an injury cannot be misinterpreted as laziness, overweight,and bad attitude? Om sure if this were true,he wouldn't be near the team,dont think Harris would accept that! Plus as said,he hates not bring in the team playing.lets wait and see how he reacts and comes back before condemning him.

Hasnt taken people long to turn on him for picking up an injury after dragging us into the playoffs last season.

The messiah paid around 3mill for him and was his number 1 transfer target at the time. What exactly was he right about?

Not turning on Tomlin at all.

Warnock signed him because of the player he could be.

Warnock ostracised him because of the player (and person) he is.

The clamour was for him to be given a new contract. Not from everyone but from the majority.

And I remember seeing Warnock get loads of stick over his treatment of Tomlin. Just shows he knows football more than two bit clowns who slate the best manager we have had.

Spot on Neil

Hasnt taken people long to turn on him for picking up an injury after dragging us into the playoffs last season.

The messiah paid around 3mill for him and was his number 1 transfer target at the time. What exactly was he right about?

Not turning on Tomlin at all.

Warnock signed him because of the player he could be.

Warnock ostracised him because of the player (and person) he is.

Exactly and we are not turning on Tomlin, stating the facts and Tomlins on about £30,000 a week.

It’s not one injury it’s numerous injuries, bad attitude, over weight , antics if the pitch.

Warnock could not take it anymore.

When Tomlins on fire he is pure quality , but one in four games on £30,000 a week Not good enough.

Always amazes me over the years how many players regain fitness when they are in their last season of a contract.

Looks like NW was correct

That’s exactly what happened.

What exactly are his antics off the pitch these days? Havent seen any headlines whilst here?? Or are people assuming? Havent heard harris saying anything untoward about him,the opposite in fact,s as ying he has been busting at the seams,bdcause hd isnt playing! Im not advocating a new contract,as he will be what 33,when his currentcdeal ends,then I would give him a pay az you play deal,on a one year contract.

Always amazes me over the years how many players regain fitness when they are in their last season of a contract.

Looks like NW was correct

That’s exactly what happened.

Hes got himself a Lamborghini...

Hasnt taken people long to turn on him for picking up an injury after dragging us into the playoffs last season.

The messiah paid around 3mill for him and was his number 1 transfer target at the time. What exactly was he right about?

Not turning on Tomlin at all.

Warnock signed him because of the player he could be.

Warnock ostracised him because of the player (and person) he is.

Exactly and we are not turning on Tomlin, stating the facts and Tomlins on about £30,000 a week.

It’s not one injury it’s numerous injuries, bad attitude, over weight , antics if the pitch.

Warnock could not take it anymore.

When Tomlins on fire he is pure quality , but one in four games on £30,000 a week Not good enough.

Pretty sure his new contract was on reduced terms so doubt he's on anywhere near 30k now.

Warnock signed a player who was clearly overweight and unfit and a player who everyone knew his reputation. Whilst you can blame tomlin for not being fit enough to play when he first came here, surely warnock takes some of the blame for bringing a player like that into the club and is part of the reason why he hasn't played as many games for us?

He clearly has his demons but nobody can deny the amount of hardwork he put in last season to try put things right. He sorted his head out and got into shape. Warnock said he was unfit then a week later he plays 90mins when Harris takes over. He featured in 36 games, was our top scorer, 10 assists and was player of the year -Pretty much dragging us into the playoffs. They are also facts. He picks up a silly yellow card to get sent off and has been unlucky to get injured and people are writing him off and comparing him to how he was a few years ago. He's not playing because he is injured, not because he's unfit.

Hasnt taken people long to turn on him for picking up an injury after dragging us into the playoffs last season.

The messiah paid around 3mill for him and was his number 1 transfer target at the time. What exactly was he right about?

Not turning on Tomlin at all.

Warnock signed him because of the player he could be.

Warnock ostracised him because of the player (and person) he is.

Exactly and we are not turning on Tomlin, stating the facts and Tomlins on about £30,000 a week.

It’s not one injury it’s numerous injuries, bad attitude, over weight , antics if the pitch.

Warnock could not take it anymore.

When Tomlins on fire he is pure quality , but one in four games on £30,000 a week Not good enough.

Pretty sure his new contract was on reduced terms so doubt he's on anywhere near 30k now.

Warnock signed a player who was clearly overweight and unfit and a player who everyone knew his reputation. Whilst you can blame tomlin for not being fit enough to play when he first came here, surely warnock takes some of the blame for bringing a player like that into the club and is part of the reason why he hasn't played as many games for us?

He clearly has his demons but nobody can deny the amount of hardwork he put in last season to try put things right. He sorted his head out and got into shape. Warnock said he was unfit then a week later he plays 90mins when Harris takes over. He featured in 36 games, was our top scorer, 10 assists and was player of the year -Pretty much dragging us into the playoffs. They are also facts. He picks up a silly yellow card to get sent off and has been unlucky to get injured and people are writing him off and comparing him to how he was a few years ago. He's not playing because he is injured, not because he's unfit.

Good post mate. All opinions but I’m a Tomlin fan and we certainly look more of a threat when he’s in the squad. I do understand the frustrations when he’s injured though.

All opinions of course and we are on here to discuss them. Just think its harsh to question his attitude, fitness and weight etc because he's picked up a few injuries this season. Especially as he was key to our success last season and they issues stated weren't a problem then.

We shouldn't have to rely on him but unfortunately he was the only creative player warnock had in the squad.

Hasnt taken people long to turn on him for picking up an injury after dragging us into the playoffs last season.

The messiah paid around 3mill for him and was his number 1 transfer target at the time. What exactly was he right about?

Not turning on Tomlin at all.

Warnock signed him because of the player he could be.

Warnock ostracised him because of the player (and person) he is.

Exactly and we are not turning on Tomlin, stating the facts and Tomlins on about £30,000 a week.

It’s not one injury it’s numerous injuries, bad attitude, over weight , antics if the pitch.

Warnock could not take it anymore.

When Tomlins on fire he is pure quality , but one in four games on £30,000 a week Not good enough.

Pretty sure his new contract was on reduced terms so doubt he's on anywhere near 30k now.

Warnock signed a player who was clearly overweight and unfit and a player who everyone knew his reputation. Whilst you can blame tomlin for not being fit enough to play when he first came here, surely warnock takes some of the blame for bringing a player like that into the club and is part of the reason why he hasn't played as many games for us?

He clearly has his demons but nobody can deny the amount of hardwork he put in last season to try put things right. He sorted his head out and got into shape. Warnock said he was unfit then a week later he plays 90mins when Harris takes over. He featured in 36 games, was our top scorer, 10 assists and was player of the year -Pretty much dragging us into the playoffs. They are also facts. He picks up a silly yellow card to get sent off and has been unlucky to get injured and people are writing him off and comparing him to how he was a few years ago. He's not playing because he is injured, not because he's unfit.

Warnock took a gamble and signed a player who had baggage in the hope he could get the best out of him.. even 3m would be a bargain for someone with all that quality if he could get him firing but that fee was disputed by NW as being considerably more than we paid { he actually rang talk sport when it was mentioned } ... over weight and unfit ? no , Lee did a full pre season including friendlies and started our first league game in which he was poor, subbed and then we won.. we continued winning while he became a bit part and he then piled the weight on is the reality..
the magic wand... Wrnock said he was unfit but a week later....etc
Warnock said he was unfit numerous times over the first 2 years..because he was unfit, here, at Forest and Peterborough.. but not while starting him or including him last season { maybe not match fit, or of the opinion he couldnt play 90 mins,which isnt the same thing } and certainly not prior to starting him in his final game in which Tomlin came off after 75 , clearly out of puff and blowing out his behind..a week later we didnt play, 2 weeks later Harris omitted him from the starting 11...
did Warnocks gamble pay off...no it didnt.... but thats not the question..its should a now nearly 3 years older lee tomlin be rewarded with a 2 year extension after playing 10 games, some of which were very good performances, others just ok... after leaving us ,our club, our ex manager and himself down so badly over his first 2 years that we couldnt even give him away over a 3 transfer window period ?..i agree about the re start.. he recovered from injury and absolutely carried us into the play offs.. but here we are 10 games in..one start..one stupid red card and now injured again...back to square 1... do we get another 6 game burst somewhere or is this it ?

Hasnt taken people long to turn on him for picking up an injury after dragging us into the playoffs last season.

The messiah paid around 3mill for him and was his number 1 transfer target at the time. What exactly was he right about?

Not turning on Tomlin at all.

Warnock signed him because of the player he could be.

Warnock ostracised him because of the player (and person) he is.

Exactly and we are not turning on Tomlin, stating the facts and Tomlins on about £30,000 a week.

It’s not one injury it’s numerous injuries, bad attitude, over weight , antics if the pitch.

Warnock could not take it anymore.

When Tomlins on fire he is pure quality , but one in four games on £30,000 a week Not good enough.

Pretty sure his new contract was on reduced terms so doubt he's on anywhere near 30k now.

Warnock signed a player who was clearly overweight and unfit and a player who everyone knew his reputation. Whilst you can blame tomlin for not being fit enough to play when he first came here, surely warnock takes some of the blame for bringing a player like that into the club and is part of the reason why he hasn't played as many games for us?

He clearly has his demons but nobody can deny the amount of hardwork he put in last season to try put things right. He sorted his head out and got into shape. Warnock said he was unfit then a week later he plays 90mins when Harris takes over. He featured in 36 games, was our top scorer, 10 assists and was player of the year -Pretty much dragging us into the playoffs. They are also facts. He picks up a silly yellow card to get sent off and has been unlucky to get injured and people are writing him off and comparing him to how he was a few years ago. He's not playing because he is injured, not because he's unfit.

Didn't he also play 30 games last season? 1 in 4(games played) since we signed him (yes in his time under neil warnock) but since Harris has been in charge it's a lot more than that.not slating warnock,as he obviously didn't trust him,but we all,including warnock knew his reputation, well before signing him,but went ahead anyway.from an outcast to player of the year,is some turnaround to be fair to the lad.e played him whilst carrying a groin strain,and are now paying for it,as it's no doubt been aggrevated,and being the player he is,he will still be important for us this season.
Would I give him a new contract? Depends on what he does for the rest of the season,and even then,his age and history,would mean a one year extension,and take it from there.

Hasnt taken people long to turn on him for picking up an injury after dragging us into the playoffs last season.

The messiah paid around 3mill for him and was his number 1 transfer target at the time. What exactly was he right about?

Not turning on Tomlin at all.

Warnock signed him because of the player he could be.

Warnock ostracised him because of the player (and person) he is.

Exactly and we are not turning on Tomlin, stating the facts and Tomlins on about £30,000 a week.

It’s not one injury it’s numerous injuries, bad attitude, over weight , antics if the pitch.

Warnock could not take it anymore.

When Tomlins on fire he is pure quality , but one in four games on £30,000 a week Not good enough.

Pretty sure his new contract was on reduced terms so doubt he's on anywhere near 30k now.

Warnock signed a player who was clearly overweight and unfit and a player who everyone knew his reputation. Whilst you can blame tomlin for not being fit enough to play when he first came here, surely warnock takes some of the blame for bringing a player like that into the club and is part of the reason why he hasn't played as many games for us?

He clearly has his demons but nobody can deny the amount of hardwork he put in last season to try put things right. He sorted his head out and got into shape. Warnock said he was unfit then a week later he plays 90mins when Harris takes over. He featured in 36 games, was our top scorer, 10 assists and was player of the year -Pretty much dragging us into the playoffs. They are also facts. He picks up a silly yellow card to get sent off and has been unlucky to get injured and people are writing him off and comparing him to how he was a few years ago. He's not playing because he is injured, not because he's unfit.

Warnock took a gamble and signed a player who had baggage in the hope he could get the best out of him.. even 3m would be a bargain for someone with all that quality if he could get him firing but that fee was disputed by NW as being considerably more than we paid { he actually rang talk sport when it was mentioned } ... over weight and unfit ? no , Lee did a full pre season including friendlies and started our first league game in which he was poor, subbed and then we won.. we continued winning while he became a bit part and he then piled the weight on is the reality..
the magic wand... Wrnock said he was unfit but a week later....etc
Warnock said he was unfit numerous times over the first 2 years..because he was unfit, here, at Forest and Peterborough.. but not while starting him or including him last season { maybe not match fit, or of the opinion he couldnt play 90 mins,which isnt the same thing } and certainly not prior to starting him in his final game in which Tomlin came off after 75 , clearly out of puff and blowing out his behind..a week later we didnt play, 2 weeks later Harris omitted him from the starting 11...
did Warnocks gamble pay off...no it didnt.... but thats not the question..its should a now nearly 3 years older lee tomlin be rewarded with a 2 year extension after playing 10 games, some of which were very good performances, others just ok... after leaving us ,our club, our ex manager and himself down so badly over his first 2 years that we couldnt even give him away over a 3 transfer window period ?..i agree about the re start.. he recovered from injury and absolutely carried us into the play offs.. but here we are 10 games in..one start..one stupid red card and now injured again...back to square 1... do we get another 6 game burst somewhere or is this it ?

He wasnt overweight or unfit when we signed him??? Yes he was, and it wasnt difficult to see. Which was backed up by Warnocks comments throughout the season. It would have been disappointing to see him go, given his potential, but I dont think too many would have argued if he was moved on after the second season.

Regarding last season Warnock did say on several occasions he wasnt fit enough to play which Tomlin came out in an interview, after Warnock left, and said he always had an excuse not to play him despite sorting himself out. Fair enough, warnock was the manager and Tomlin had let him down before. But it is not like we were playing well without him. The football was absolute dross and we were sliding down the table. Since Harris has came in and gave him a chance he has shown he is capable of racking up the minutes if he stays injury free. That didnt change in the short time between changing managers.

I know in your book people cant have anything bad to say about Warnock but the hard truth is that he built a squad with absolutely zero creativity in it. He built a team to play long ball tactics and it wasnt even good at that. It says a lot about the state of the squad that we had to heavily rely on a player who had let the club and fans down so badly for 2 seasons. As you say £3m for a player of his quality when fit and firing would be a bargain, and he was fit and firing so surely his new contract was a good move and justified given his following form? I have seen you defend warnock for signing/giving new contracts to injury prone players saying he didnt have a crystal ball etc but now its an issue that Tomlin was given a new contract and has since picked up injuries? Yes his sending off was stupid but hes not the first player to let the team down and wont be the last. Harris hasnt hinted there are any issue with him and that he's just struggling with injuries. He might have let his fitness and attitude slip but lets not rush to crucify a player based on his past.

Need this guy back