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Mon Nov 02, 2020 7:11 pm
I agree one Country and always should be, maybe max 2, but for me if Russia gets it, it’s totally corrupt
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Mon Nov 02, 2020 7:19 pm
Euro 2021 now set to be hosted by just one country as Russia leads the way
Wales are currently due to travel to Azerbaijan and Rome in the group stages of Euro 2021 but it looks like all countries could be heading to Russia instead
By Jon Doel
Monday 2nd November 2020
Euro 2021 is set to be hosted by just one country, with Russia leading the way, according to reports.
The delayed tournament is officially still due to be shared between 12 host nations but that plan is now likely to be aborted amid the coronavirus pandemic.
It means the plans of Wales fans, and those of all the nations, will be completely up in the air for some time to come, with an official final decision not expected to be rushed.
La Parisien report Russia are the frontrunners to be sole hosts as their recent staging of the 2018 World Cup means they have the modern infrastructure needed to host a major tournament in place and ready to go at short notice.
The country also has an officially low rate of Covid-19 infection, with just 29,000 deaths from a huge population recorded so far. The UK has recorded nearly 47,000.
Uefa have refused to confirm or deny the reports at this stage.
Mon Nov 02, 2020 7:31 pm
Annis,
You believe in the 1 country concept, why not Russia?
Does it really matter who hosts it.
In the times that we are living in, if a country has the facilities and is willing to take responsibility good luck to them.
I think the teams taking part would rather they play in one country, so the conditions are equal for all participants.
I very much doubt that supporters will be able to travel either.
Mon Nov 02, 2020 7:35 pm
Its cold over there though.
Mon Nov 02, 2020 7:39 pm
spikeferndale wrote:Annis,
You believe in the 1 country concept, why not Russia?
Does it really matter who hosts it.
In the times that we are living in, if a country has the facilities and is willing to take responsibility good luck to them.
I think the teams taking part would rather they play in one country, so the conditions are equal for all participants.
I very much doubt that supporters will be able to travel either.
One because Russia not long ago held the World Cup.
Two many many fans won’t go there due to the corruption and fear .
I don’t think fans will be allowed, but let’s give another country it.
Mon Nov 02, 2020 7:42 pm
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Mon Nov 02, 2020 7:44 pm
Russia produced one of the best World Cups for years and has recent experience of hosting a tournament. They also made sure there was no trouble - sounds like good reasons for them to have it to me. Its also an amazing country that is very misconceived - remember the people are not necessarily like the government, just like here...
Mon Nov 02, 2020 7:45 pm
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Mon Nov 02, 2020 7:54 pm
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I thought Russia would be the one country not allowed to host. Is it fifa or IOC that have banned them.
Mon Nov 02, 2020 7:55 pm
Given the fact Uefa always bang on about legacy and the fact its likely no fans will be present . Why not give it to one or two of the smaller countries.
Stadium size for once does not matter and neither does infrastructure.
Places like San Marino , Andorra , Iceland , Finland could all benefit massively from the financial benefits of hosting such an event.
They will probably never have another chance .
All they need is a good pitch and some small stadium upgrades
Mon Nov 02, 2020 8:10 pm
thomasblue wrote:Given the fact Uefa always bang on about legacy and the fact its likely no fans will be present . Why not give it to one or two of the smaller countries.
Stadium size for once does not matter and neither does infrastructure.
Places like San Marino , Andorra , Iceland , Finland could all benefit massively from the financial benefits of hosting such an event.
They will probably never have another chance .
All they need is a good pitch and some small stadium upgrades
Oh come on San Marino,Andorra Andy Iceland would really struggle even with no fans.All the teams with top hotels,with top facilities and the most modern training pitches etc..Then you got the media circus too.
I know it doesn’t sound much but far bigger countries would struggle.
Mon Nov 02, 2020 8:21 pm
Russia is a massive country, if fans are allowed to travel by - it's big enough to keep them all seperate.
If fans arent allowed to travel and the whole thing is behind closed doors - it will also stop fans just going the city's just to be there
Mon Nov 02, 2020 8:31 pm
theclaw wrote:thomasblue wrote:Given the fact Uefa always bang on about legacy and the fact its likely no fans will be present . Why not give it to one or two of the smaller countries.
Stadium size for once does not matter and neither does infrastructure.
Places like San Marino , Andorra , Iceland , Finland could all benefit massively from the financial benefits of hosting such an event.
They will probably never have another chance .
All they need is a good pitch and some small stadium upgrades
Oh come on San Marino,Andorra Andy Iceland would really struggle even with no fans.All the teams with top hotels,with top facilities and the most modern training pitches etc..Then you got the media circus too.
I know it doesn’t sound much but far bigger countries would struggle.
So how do they cope when big teams visit?
It doesnt have to be the ones mentioned it could be any of the smaller countries. Why always give it to the big boys ?
All they need is decent pitches and enough hotels for the teams and journalists, easily achieavable for those countries.
They are not third world countries they are well established
The numbers of journalists and tv crews will be minimal compared to normal
Mon Nov 02, 2020 8:42 pm
Russia had 30,000 excess deaths in July alone. Walesonline and their YTS reporters again.
Mon Nov 02, 2020 8:45 pm
thomasblue wrote:theclaw wrote:thomasblue wrote:Given the fact Uefa always bang on about legacy and the fact its likely no fans will be present . Why not give it to one or two of the smaller countries.
Stadium size for once does not matter and neither does infrastructure.
Places like San Marino , Andorra , Iceland , Finland could all benefit massively from the financial benefits of hosting such an event.
They will probably never have another chance .
All they need is a good pitch and some small stadium upgrades
Oh come on San Marino,Andorra Andy Iceland would really struggle even with no fans.All the teams with top hotels,with top facilities and the most modern training pitches etc..Then you got the media circus too.
I know it doesn’t sound much but far bigger countries would struggle.
So how do they cope when big teams visit?
It doesnt have to be the ones mentioned it could be any of the smaller countries. Why always give it to the big boys ?
All they need is decent pitches and enough hotels for the teams and journalists, easily achieavable for those countries.
They are not third world countries they are well established
The numbers of journalists and tv crews will be minimal compared to normal
No way could somewhere like Iceland, San Marino or Andorra host it. They don't have the facilities to host 24 teams. You need world class facilities to host such a tournament. Obviously smaller countries don't have the infrastructure.
Bit odd Russia got it. I would have thought somewhere like Germany, France or England would be more likely.
Mon Nov 02, 2020 9:02 pm
Backhanders all the time.Same as the world cup in Qatar.
Mon Nov 02, 2020 9:05 pm
thomasblue wrote:theclaw wrote:thomasblue wrote:Given the fact Uefa always bang on about legacy and the fact its likely no fans will be present . Why not give it to one or two of the smaller countries.
Stadium size for once does not matter and neither does infrastructure.
Places like San Marino , Andorra , Iceland , Finland could all benefit massively from the financial benefits of hosting such an event.
They will probably never have another chance .
All they need is a good pitch and some small stadium upgrades
Oh come on San Marino,Andorra Andy Iceland would really struggle even with no fans.All the teams with top hotels,with top facilities and the most modern training pitches etc..Then you got the media circus too.
I know it doesn’t sound much but far bigger countries would struggle.
So how do they cope when big teams visit?
It doesnt have to be the ones mentioned it could be any of the smaller countries. Why always give it to the big boys ?
All they need is decent pitches and enough hotels for the teams and journalists, easily achieavable for those countries.
They are not third world countries they are well established
The numbers of journalists and tv crews will be minimal compared to normal
That's like saying Wales would be able to host the euros by themselves. No chance San Marino, Iceland or Andorra would ever possibly be in contention, San Marino has literally 1 stadium in the entire country.
They may be able to host a single one off game when the "big teams visit" but this is a month long tournament with something like 60 games needing to be played. You need to accommodate 24 teams as well as support staff and not only do they need accommodation they need training facilities too.
Finland is possibly the only one that even has a remote chance from that list of being suitable. Realistically the smallest countries that would be able to hold it would be Scotland, Portugal, Belgium, etc, Those countries would probably have the bare minimum facilities required to host a "behind closed doors" tournament.
If you scrap the idea of a single country though, logistically a hybrid Belgium, Netherlands, West Germany tournament would be perfect. Koln, Schalke, Dortmund, Monchengladbach, Ajax, PSV, Feyenoord, Anderlecht and Club Brugge are all within a 3-4 hours drive. This negates needing to send thousands of players and staff through potentially busy airports. All the teams will have very good training facilities and the stadiums are all large enough for the abnormally high amount of press and journalists that league games don't have.
But I'm just a bloke on the internet so it'll probably go to whoever pays the most
Mon Nov 02, 2020 10:11 pm
Is it corrupt if Russia gets it,probably.
But I’d still rather it be in Russia than spread around the 12 or so countries that was originally planned.
Mon Nov 02, 2020 10:23 pm
theclaw wrote:Is it corrupt if Russia gets it,probably.
But I’d still rather it be in Russia than spread around the 12 or so countries that was originally planned.
i wouldnt... ive got a follow my country ticket so if fans are allowed how is travellin huge distances in Russia better for me ?
Tue Nov 03, 2020 5:07 am
If fans allowed then the travel involved within Russia frankly makes it no different to all the flights required to get around Europe.
If no fans it barely matters though I think "rewarding" Russia for its various sport/state/drug tests infractions seems curious.
Tue Nov 03, 2020 5:54 am
The only thing guaranteed for 2021 is no fans at any sport so whats the point cancel them all.
the riots will take our minds of no sport next year don't worry plenty to do on the streets
Tue Nov 03, 2020 6:31 am
Absolutely no regard for fans I’ve already paid for flights and accommodation to Rome extortionate prices so if flights are going ahead will have to go or lose money not going to Russia also bought tickets
Tue Nov 03, 2020 9:02 am
Pembroke bluebird wrote:Absolutely no regard for fans I’ve already paid for flights and accommodation to Rome extortionate prices so if flights are going ahead will have to go or lose money not going to Russia also bought tickets

I haven't booked anything yet and still outstanding 1 flight for 5 of us back from Baku to Istanbul. Would still go if we can but it will a good bit dearer than Baku / Rome. I went to St Petersburg, Moscow and Baku in 2019 and would have much preferred the St Petersburg group to Baku. That said I wouldn't look forward to spending a whole tournament in Russia. I hope its Germany and at the very least a limited number of fans can attend.
Tue Nov 03, 2020 9:46 am
Germany has 2024 I believe so it’s not going to go there although this is an unprecedented situation
Tue Nov 03, 2020 10:23 am
Russia may only be 1 country but still covers more area than the 12 countries that were selected to host. There would still be a lot of air travel involved from 1 game to the next. It whiffs a bit of underhand dealings if they are selected. Wouldn't have thought too many supporters would be overly overwhelmed by the decision or journey.
Tue Nov 03, 2020 10:31 am
Sensible due to the pandemic really. And Russia hosted a great tournament a few years ago so why not. Cant wait...of course no fans will still be there but a great overall spectacle nonetheless.
Tue Nov 03, 2020 10:45 am
stickywicket wrote:Backhanders all the time.Same as the world cup in Qatar.
Tue Nov 03, 2020 2:23 pm
Isawgarystevensscoreagoal wrote:If fans allowed then the travel involved within Russia frankly makes it no different to all the flights required to get around Europe.
If no fans it barely matters though I think "rewarding" Russia for its various sport/state/drug tests infractions seems curious.
no different...really ... how is playing in Amsterdam or wembley in any way the same as playing in moscow
Tue Nov 03, 2020 2:30 pm
epping blue wrote:Pembroke bluebird wrote:Absolutely no regard for fans I’ve already paid for flights and accommodation to Rome extortionate prices so if flights are going ahead will have to go or lose money not going to Russia also bought tickets

I haven't booked anything yet and still outstanding 1 flight for 5 of us back from Baku to Istanbul. Would still go if we can but it will a good bit dearer than Baku / Rome. I went to St Petersburg, Moscow and Baku in 2019 and would have much preferred the St Petersburg group to Baku. That said I wouldn't look forward to spending a whole tournament in Russia. I hope its Germany and at the very least a limited number of fans can attend.
its very unlikely it will be , but Germany is pretty central for all fans many of who will already have taken a financial hit... as it stood, just like in France id made no arrangements beyond a flight home from the final group game in Rome... you cant can you as how well you do depends on where you go next ,possibly home ?
im still waiting for some refunds too...the majority actually.. i booked 24 in total and had 6 refunds... frustrating
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Tue Nov 03, 2020 2:32 pm
Given the 'Olympic' position on Russia and its sporting 'values' (or lack of) this is a surprising decision, although I 'Football World' not a totally shocking one...
My only thoughts are that after the jumble of multiple venues for this year's competition, it has been deemed prudent to put all their eggs back in one basket and, after their relatively successful World Cup, Russia are best placed to run a competition with minimal infrastructure requirements; although I would argue England (possibly plus the Mill Stad) are in as good, if not better, position
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