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Heard tonight that the board is split:

Sun Nov 01, 2020 9:32 pm

Heard tonight from a confidential source the Board is split on Harris' fate. Choo is backing him, Dalman, a big influence on Tan, is unsure of his ability to turn things around.

I am hearing, Paul Cook, Nigel Pearson. I wouldn't rule out Bamba in some elevated senior coaching capacity - he has a close affinity with Tan.

Harris' future at Cardiff could well hinge on the two home matches this week. He needs to get a miniumn of four points - lose to both and I reckon he'll be toast.
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Re: Heard tonight that the board is split:

Sun Nov 01, 2020 9:46 pm

Dreaded vote of confidence for him then.

Re: Heard tonight that the board is split:

Sun Nov 01, 2020 9:50 pm

Forever Blue wrote:Heard tonight from a confidential source the Board is split on Harris' fate. Choo is backing him, Dalman, a big influence on Tan, is unsure of his ability to turn things around.

I am hearing, Paul Cook, Nigel Pearson. I wouldn't rule out Bamba in some elevated senior coaching capacity - he has a close affinity with Tan.

Harris' future at Cardiff could well hinge on the two home matches this week. He needs to get a miniumn of four points - lose to both and I reckon he'll be toast.


I'm thinking two draws and he'll be in trouble too Annis

Re: Heard tonight that the board is split:

Sun Nov 01, 2020 9:55 pm

Posted yesterday that Paul Cook would be a top candidate.
Need a character and personality to re-energise a stale squad of players. Bryan Robson I think took WBA on the piss for a week and pulled off the great escape.

Re: Heard tonight that the board is split:

Sun Nov 01, 2020 10:03 pm

I'm not surprised that Dalman wants him out.

Listened to his interview on Radio Wales om Transfer Deadline Day and he didn't sound sure of him, as well as the fact he put a lot of pressure on Harris.


I'm a big supporter for Neil Harris but it will be hard to make a case for him staying if we get less than four points from these next two games. Particularly with the fact there's an international break after the game on Friday, because it would give the club time to bring in a new manager before the next game.


Hopefully this week Neil Harris will lead us to six points :thumbright:

Re: Heard tonight that the board is split:

Sun Nov 01, 2020 10:41 pm

Nigel Pearson would be a good shout tbh Watford were stupid getting rid if him last year he took other with no hope and he put them back in the race

Re: Heard tonight that the board is split:

Sun Nov 01, 2020 10:45 pm

There are no plans at the moment to get rid.
It’s all about if results don’t improve.

Re: Heard tonight that the board is split:

Sun Nov 01, 2020 10:46 pm

Dalman and Choo know no more about football than Tan does. Dalman the one that brought us OGS with the proclaimation he was his man. Why oh why oh why is Dalman still paid to have anything to do with our club?

Re: Heard tonight that the board is split:

Sun Nov 01, 2020 11:06 pm

Isawgarystevensscoreagoal wrote:Dalman and Choo know no more about football than Tan does. Dalman the one that brought us OGS with the proclaimation he was his man. Why oh why oh why is Dalman still paid to have anything to do with our club?


His actual words were he felt like “the cat had got his cream”. Well that didn’t work out.

Someone has already been sounded out! No names.

Re: Heard tonight that the board is split:

Sun Nov 01, 2020 11:07 pm

Simply the beginning of the end.... can win next two games but another poor run and his position will be untenable now this news as broken

Re: Heard tonight that the board is split:

Sun Nov 01, 2020 11:12 pm

Isawgarystevensscoreagoal wrote:Dalman and Choo know no more about football than Tan does. Dalman the one that brought us OGS with the proclaimation he was his man. Why oh why oh why is Dalman still paid to have anything to do with our club?


They have been running a top championship club in this country for over a decade. Plus two seasons in the biggest league in the world and multiple other clubs around the world in different countries.

They know a lot about football now and definitely more than any of us on here about the inner workings of professional football.

Re: Heard tonight that the board is split:

Sun Nov 01, 2020 11:14 pm

thomasblue wrote:
Isawgarystevensscoreagoal wrote:Dalman and Choo know no more about football than Tan does. Dalman the one that brought us OGS with the proclaimation he was his man. Why oh why oh why is Dalman still paid to have anything to do with our club?


They have been running a top championship club in this country for over a decade. Plus two seasons in the biggest league in the world and multiple other clubs around the world in different countries.

They know a lot about football now and definitely more than any of us on here about the inner workings of professional football.


Well they don’t appear to learn from anything and continue to make a pigs guts of it.

I wouldn’t trust them in charge of any company I owned.

Re: Heard tonight that the board is split:

Sun Nov 01, 2020 11:23 pm

Pulisnewport wrote:
thomasblue wrote:
Isawgarystevensscoreagoal wrote:Dalman and Choo know no more about football than Tan does. Dalman the one that brought us OGS with the proclaimation he was his man. Why oh why oh why is Dalman still paid to have anything to do with our club?


They have been running a top championship club in this country for over a decade. Plus two seasons in the biggest league in the world and multiple other clubs around the world in different countries.

They know a lot about football now and definitely more than any of us on here about the inner workings of professional football.


Well they don’t appear to learn from anything and continue to make a pigs guts of it.

I wouldn’t trust them in charge of any company I owned.


You can say that about most clubs but don't worry it ain't your money :lol: .I do however think its the last chance saloon for Harris though.

Re: Heard tonight that the board is split:

Sun Nov 01, 2020 11:40 pm

Isawgarystevensscoreagoal wrote:Dalman and Choo know no more about football than Tan does. Dalman the one that brought us OGS with the proclaimation he was his man. Why oh why oh why is Dalman still paid to have anything to do with our club?


:thumbup:

Re: Heard tonight that the board is split:

Mon Nov 02, 2020 12:10 am

Ex bluebird Eddie newton,was released from his contract at trabzonspor yesterday,anyone?? :old: :bluebird:

Re: Heard tonight that the board is split:

Mon Nov 02, 2020 7:04 am

Pulisnewport wrote:
thomasblue wrote:
Isawgarystevensscoreagoal wrote:Dalman and Choo know no more about football than Tan does. Dalman the one that brought us OGS with the proclaimation he was his man. Why oh why oh why is Dalman still paid to have anything to do with our club?


They have been running a top championship club in this country for over a decade. Plus two seasons in the biggest league in the world and multiple other clubs around the world in different countries.

They know a lot about football now and definitely more than any of us on here about the inner workings of professional football.


Well they don’t appear to learn from anything and continue to make a pigs guts of it.

I wouldn’t trust them in charge of any company I owned.


What mistakes do they keep making ?

If you wouldn't trust a man who built his business up successfully over many years making himself a BILLIONAIRE with your business then you are a fool

If you could sit down with him and take tips on how to run a business succefully you should lap up every single word.

Our chairman is also very successful multi Millionaire who had worked for and chaired some of the biggest financial, marketing and banking institutions in Europe

We are very lucky to have two very successful businessmen running our ub

Re: Heard tonight that the board is split:

Mon Nov 02, 2020 7:18 am

Undoubtebly there is tension between Dalman and NH after the statements when Patterson went.

Think anything other than 4 points this week and he will be gone.

Posted on here a few weeks ago that Dalman and Choo would not be doing thier job correctly if they did not have someone in mind.

Pearson for me of the names mentioned, strong character who demands respect and a proven track record, but knowing our board it will be Flynn who will be cheap.

Re: Heard tonight that the board is split:

Mon Nov 02, 2020 8:05 am

I’m still not sure whether the time is right. We start games awfully but seem to be able to step it up after Harris gets in to them at half time which would seem to indicate the players are still with him.

That said, I do agree that the next couple of games are crucial. The club has given him, generally, what he wanted in the transfer window but it’s still not working and time is running out to get it right.

Of the realistic other options then Pearson is probably the best bet. He’d ruffle a few feathers but would get results.

Whoever it is it needs to be someone who can get the best out of a squad that, on paper, really should be comfortably in the Top 6.

Re: Heard tonight that the board is split:

Mon Nov 02, 2020 8:26 am

Could we see a third managerial casualty in a row following a Severnside derby?

Warnock and the midget Johnson both sacked following a home loss last season.

Could Harris make it a hat trick?

Re: Heard tonight that the board is split:

Mon Nov 02, 2020 8:30 am

No need to panic about results, its the performances that concern me. We could have nicked a draw on Saturday and that wouldn't have changed the performances.

Going to watch a professional football is a discretionary decision, often made through repetitive, routine and partisan loyalty. Covid has broken this bond and i believe this must be a factor. A season over by Christmas with little hope (Slade's Time) isn't going to drag back those who were wise enough not to renew this season.

Pearson would be great, I think we need the type of spiky character at this club.

I can see Sol for a short time, but have this Bellamy feeling. Because he will also be kill or cure

Re: Heard tonight that the board is split:

Mon Nov 02, 2020 9:03 am

Its the weekend after and my feelings after this disappointment is if Harris does go then it will be a real disappointment.

I was comfortable with the Harris appointment as he is a new type of young manager that is appearing all over the place. I thought his next step for him would be a bigger club like us. It looked promising last season but it has gone horrible wrong this season. Why, well we will only know later if he goes. What is the real disappointment if he goes is why was it us?

Re: Heard tonight that the board is split:

Mon Nov 02, 2020 9:18 am

He got us to within a whisker of the play off final just a few months ago - that was some achievement, with a squad that was barely mid-table in my opinion. However I think 2 factors have contributed to make life difficult for him this season. For a few of our players I just don't think there's much left in the tank after last season's efforts - they hear this talk of reaching the play offs but I doubt they really believe it. Secondly, I keep mentioning it, but for the life of me I just don't see why we brought in Harry Wilson. Into Warnocks PL squad, yes, into Mackay's promotion squad, yes, even into one of Dave Jones' squads, but it strikes me a little of desperation on the part of the manager. I'm not really sure any manager would be doing much better with this squad, so I'd say barring two poor defeats this week, give him another 4 or 5 games - it's still very early in the season..

Re: Heard tonight that the board is split:

Mon Nov 02, 2020 9:32 am

There is two train of thoughts there...yes it is early in the season..you leave it 4-5 games the gap may be too big

Or leave it til near xmas so any new manager has a transfer market to change what he needs

I am glad we didnt get thru the play offs because the squad would have got mullered in the prem this year

This squad is nowhere near good enough

Re: Heard tonight that the board is split:

Mon Nov 02, 2020 9:33 am

It's the way he sets the team up clueless hes lucky the fans arent there to see that crap

Re: Heard tonight that the board is split:

Mon Nov 02, 2020 9:50 am

I think the point people are making about Dalman and Choo is they are not Football people .They run the club well as a Business but not for over 10 years...Dalaman arrived July 2013 and Choo the year after.

The decisions people are not happy with are the appointments of Managers OGS, Slade and Trollope and a lot of people didn t want Harris

But to say someone is a fool for not having the same opinion as you ... come on respect we all have different opinions :bluescarf:

Re: Heard tonight that the board is split:

Mon Nov 02, 2020 9:50 am

None of us know what goes on behind the scenes and what agreements have been made.

For instance when Pep turned up from Bayern with a reputation as big as football itself and Citieh so dearly wanted him the club probably said do what you want. So when he picked a shit goalie but who let in daft goals but could play a bit, he did so in full confidence that the club were 100% behind him. It didn't matter they only came third with the highest salaried squad because there was a collective goal. He then spent £150 million on full back and the rest is history.

Klopp the same at Liverpool, they had such a reputation the club wanted them so badly everyone at the club including the players know there is only one boss and if you piss him off, the gravy train starts slowing.

We had it three years ago. Trollope was a disaster, only one man for the job !! No contract, a handshake. The manager was the leader of the club, Obviously the owner is, but they are there to manage the 2~5 year plan.

So unless you are Pep or Klopp in your club, trying to make this lot play like those teams is the fast route to dismissal unless you have such a reputation (Beilsa) and the club are willing to trust you undoubtedly.
We could have continued to believe in the Trollope project, a young Welsh manager with fresh ideas but the visuals and actuals were very much wrong. This appears the same.

This is why reputation does matter. We are not a minor London club, we get a disproportionate coverage because of the Wales media location and in truth the facilities (Sky are there five time a year with Wales) and it does look impressive.

If he believe in this slow passing game, then he is gone. If he adapts and plays to our players he may see this out. Its up to him.

Re: Heard tonight that the board is split:

Mon Nov 02, 2020 10:19 am

Get Dave Jones back in :ayatollah: :bluescarf:

Re: Heard tonight that the board is split:

Mon Nov 02, 2020 10:22 am

thomasblue wrote:
Pulisnewport wrote:
thomasblue wrote:
Isawgarystevensscoreagoal wrote:Dalman and Choo know no more about football than Tan does. Dalman the one that brought us OGS with the proclaimation he was his man. Why oh why oh why is Dalman still paid to have anything to do with our club?


They have been running a top championship club in this country for over a decade. Plus two seasons in the biggest league in the world and multiple other clubs around the world in different countries.

They know a lot about football now and definitely more than any of us on here about the inner workings of professional football.


Well they don’t appear to learn from anything and continue to make a pigs guts of it.

I wouldn’t trust them in charge of any company I owned.


What mistakes do they keep making ?

If you wouldn't trust a man who built his business up successfully over many years making himself a BILLIONAIRE with your business then you are a fool

If you could sit down with him and take tips on how to run a business succefully you should lap up every single word.

Our chairman is also very successful multi Millionaire who had worked for and chaired some of the biggest financial, marketing and banking institutions in Europe

We are very lucky to have two very successful businessmen running our ub



You talk some shite, but this is spot on :lol: :clap:

Re: Heard tonight that the board is split:

Mon Nov 02, 2020 10:25 am

A Quiet Monkfish wrote:He got us to within a whisker of the play off final just a few months ago - that was some achievement, with a squad that was barely mid-table in my opinion. However I think 2 factors have contributed to make life difficult for him this season. For a few of our players I just don't think there's much left in the tank after last season's efforts - they hear this talk of reaching the play offs but I doubt they really believe it. Secondly, I keep mentioning it, but for the life of me I just don't see why we brought in Harry Wilson. Into Warnocks PL squad, yes, into Mackay's promotion squad, yes, even into one of Dave Jones' squads, but it strikes me a little of desperation on the part of the manager. I'm not really sure any manager would be doing much better with this squad, so I'd say barring two poor defeats this week, give him another 4 or 5 games - it's still very early in the season..


This squad lacks creativity. Wilson can play on the wing and in the number 10 role. He would probably walk into the majority of teams in this division and a few in the prem. Why wouldn't any championship club want to sign him?

Re: Heard tonight that the board is split:

Mon Nov 02, 2020 10:25 am

kimble wrote:I think the point people are making about Dalman and Choo is they are not Football people .They run the club well as a Business but not for over 10 years...Dalaman arrived July 2013 and Choo the year after.

The decisions people are not happy with are the appointments of Managers OGS, Slade and Trollope and a lot of people didn t want Harris

But to say someone is a fool for not having the same opinion as you ... come on respect we all have different opinions :bluescarf:

Fully agree
Salmon is brilliant as a financial person, however, his football knowledge is so poor..