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HE HAS TO GO!

Sat Oct 31, 2020 5:01 pm

Football is dire
One dimensional

Re: He got to go

Sat Oct 31, 2020 5:03 pm

Woeful. Taxi for Harris.

No clue.

Re: HE HAS TO GO!

Sat Oct 31, 2020 5:05 pm

QPR I follow commentary team just summed it up.. “I expected so much more from Cardiff “

Re: He got to go

Sat Oct 31, 2020 5:05 pm

2 penalties none from open play.oh
and swans 2nd
warnocks boro top 5
wales lost
and the pubs shut.
Happy lockdown

Re: HE HAS TO GO!

Sat Oct 31, 2020 5:09 pm

oohahhPaulMillar wrote:QPR I follow commentary team just summed it up.. “I expected so much more from Cardiff “



Under Harris I'm not.

Re: HE HAS TO GO!

Sat Oct 31, 2020 5:14 pm

Should have picked up 6 points against these 2 derby and qpr on paper
But started both games so defensively and fben tried 2nd half to change to attacking should be doing from the off
Over to you dalman.

Re: HE HAS TO GO!

Sat Oct 31, 2020 5:16 pm

I always back managers, but he has to go.

Re: HE HAS TO GO!

Sat Oct 31, 2020 5:19 pm

Harris out eddie howe in

Re: HE HAS TO GO!

Sat Oct 31, 2020 5:24 pm

Our best players injured and no strength in depth. No quality. It's a shame for Harris it seems that no matter what he does the team cant do anything on the pitch. Nice not to see slow Hoilett but the problems remain with lack of quality options. The midfield seem stale and with Bacuna as right back is not the answer. I say put the academy players in the midfeild and out wide as wingers. It looks like the team are stale in midfield and the wingers as well with Hoilett slow, Murphy's heart is not in it anymore and the midfield having Vaulks, Pack and Ralls there is the same old same old really and its predictable for other teams.

I say keep Moore, Morrison, Nelson, Smithies and have the rest as young academy players at least then you are trying out the youngsters and fans can understand that your trying something completely different in order to change up the team making it less predictable for teams and could have hidden gems that you might carry on playing. And then who knows we could have the youngest team to play a game in the EFL but at least you are trying different players.

Re: HE HAS TO GO!

Sat Oct 31, 2020 5:43 pm

This job is way too big for him. Time for him to go

Dressing room bust ups and fans turning on him

Re: HE HAS TO GO!

Sat Oct 31, 2020 5:57 pm

Aberbeeg Blues wrote:This job is way too big for him. Time for him to go

Dressing room bust ups and fans turning on him


Its a blessing in disguise that there is no fans otherwise he would feel the fan base booing every week at the stadium.

Re: HE HAS TO GO!

Sat Oct 31, 2020 7:07 pm

Sam ReaN wrote:Our best players injured and no strength in depth. No quality. It's a shame for Harris it seems that no matter what he does the team cant do anything on the pitch. Nice not to see slow Hoilett but the problems remain with lack of quality options. The midfield seem stale and with Bacuna as right back is not the answer. I say put the academy players in the midfeild and out wide as wingers. It looks like the team are stale in midfield and the wingers as well with Hoilett slow, Murphy's heart is not in it anymore and the midfield having Vaulks, Pack and Ralls there is the same old same old really and its predictable for other teams.

I say keep Moore, Morrison, Nelson, Smithies and have the rest as young academy players at least then you are trying out the youngsters and fans can understand that your trying something completely different in order to change up the team making it less predictable for teams and could have hidden gems that you might carry on playing. And then who knows we could have the youngest team to play a game in the EFL but at least you are trying different players.




Sam our youngster get battered every week at their level..... There is a galactic gap between academy and championship. The best U23 teams get turned over by L2 teams

Re: HE HAS TO GO!

Sat Oct 31, 2020 7:21 pm

I have always backed him and thought his record at Millwall and for us last season was good. That said it looks like there is something wrong with us this season. No problems with the players he has signed so far but they are not performing very well. Deserves till Christmas to turn things round but I have to say I am not sure if he is capable of it anymore. The football is bloody awful too never mind the results.

Re: HE HAS TO GO!

Sat Oct 31, 2020 7:36 pm

Sam ReaN wrote:Our best players injured and no strength in depth. No quality. It's a shame for Harris it seems that no matter what he does the team cant do anything on the pitch. Nice not to see slow Hoilett but the problems remain with lack of quality options. The midfield seem stale and with Bacuna as right back is not the answer. I say put the academy players in the midfeild and out wide as wingers. It looks like the team are stale in midfield and the wingers as well with Hoilett slow, Murphy's heart is not in it anymore and the midfield having Vaulks, Pack and Ralls there is the same old same old really and its predictable for other teams.

I say keep Moore, Morrison, Nelson, Smithies and have the rest as young academy players at least then you are trying out the youngsters and fans can understand that your trying something completely different in order to change up the team making it less predictable for teams and could have hidden gems that you might carry on playing. And then who knows we could have the youngest team to play a game in the EFL but at least you are trying different players.


indeed..they could also break a few records..

Re: HE HAS TO GO!

Sat Oct 31, 2020 11:17 pm

People go on about Tomlin ,yea he's good but injury prone now ,not consistent, before he did whatever he did Mendez Laing's was one of our better wingers ,what canvHarris do he seems to have lost the dressing room now,poor man

Re: HE HAS TO GO!

Sun Nov 01, 2020 1:31 am

carmarthen bluebird wrote:I always back managers, but he has to go.

Contradictory statement there...!? :shock: :roll:

Re: HE HAS TO GO!

Sun Nov 01, 2020 6:31 am

The players being moaned about as not good enough are all Warnocks players. Our midfield is simply not good enough, Pack, vaulkes, Ralls, Murphy, Hoillet. All Warnocks signings, though he chose not to play a few of them. Our best wide player, ML, has gone.

Ojo looks like he can deliver, Wilson is class but has missed two games and Moore may be a striker and better than anything we've had for a while.

Warnock signed loads and spent loads and most of it failed.

Harris' only strange signing at this point is the Croatian who we've not seen yet. I assume this means that now he works with him every day he's not deemed better than Morrison or Nelson.

I'm not saying Harris is answer. He performed a minor miracle to get us to playoffs where we all knew we were punching above our weight.

Which players was he referring to post QPR?

Our season is going to be entirely dependent on how many minutes a fully fit Tomlin and a fully fit Wilson are on the pitch for. One of those another Warnock signing who he didn't play and the other Harris key signing so far.

Re: HE HAS TO GO!

Sun Nov 01, 2020 9:43 am

Isawgarystevensscoreagoal wrote:The players being moaned about as not good enough are all Warnocks players. Our midfield is simply not good enough, Pack, vaulkes, Ralls, Murphy, Hoillet. All Warnocks signings, though he chose not to play a few of them. Our best wide player, ML, has gone.

Ojo looks like he can deliver, Wilson is class but has missed two games and Moore may be a striker and better than anything we've had for a while.

Warnock signed loads and spent loads and most of it failed.

Harris' only strange signing at this point is the Croatian who we've not seen yet. I assume this means that now he works with him every day he's not deemed better than Morrison or Nelson.

I'm not saying Harris is answer. He performed a minor miracle to get us to playoffs where we all knew we were punching above our weight.

Which players was he referring to post QPR?

Our season is going to be entirely dependent on how many minutes a fully fit Tomlin and a fully fit Wilson are on the pitch for. One of those another Warnock signing who he didn't play and the other Harris key signing so far.


I completely disagree with Warnocks signings completely failing. In his first season (despite it not being a whole season) he dragged us up from bottom right up the table. The 2nd full season we were promoted with a team that probably shouldn’t have been promoted - we went up because of Warnock. Perhaps now we are seeing exactly how good the players are under another manager. We were extremely unlucky not to stay up in the premier league. We had the Sala incident which was really tragic. We had so many poor poor decisions go against us it was unbelievable. I believe if we had Sala we would have stayed up. Not just his contribution into the team but the tragedy wouldn’t have affected the players and manager. IMO Warnock was never the Same after what happened to Sala. Iwould take Warnock back in a heart beat.

Yes ok things went wrong in Warnocks 4th season with us but perhaps the Incidences were just too much. Putting that aside he had done what he had set out to do - win us promotion. To do it all again was a massive ask and probably lost the energy that he once had with us. Warnock is given way too much stick on here and people forget very quickly what he did for us. The thing that I will say is that it was a virus the club listened to the fans when they appointed Warnock because we were all crying out for him. Perhaps the club should listen to the fans next time. I do like Harris and I think he should be given abit more time however don’t forget how long Warnock was given when things started going wrong in the championship! The same should be for Harris.

Re: HE HAS TO GO!

Sun Nov 01, 2020 10:43 am

At Millwall he showed that mid table management ability is the best he is capable of. Hugely limited tactically (have you had the 85 minute pointlessly late substitutions yet?) his success is based on building a great team spirit and being tough and giving 100%. When that is not enough he sadly is incapable of ever accepting his limitations and starts lashing out at the team in public. That leads to dressing room discontent and it all falls apart. He will have 1 or 2 chosen ones that he plays no matter how bad their form is that will have you scratching your head in bewilderment.
Watching unattractive football is okay if you are least getting results but when everyone works you out and the results start turning, then not so much. He left us with some players on big wages that were bought purely out of desperation and now sit on the bench running down their contracts whilst doing bugger all for the money.
We are not completely there yet but Rowett has us playing much better football and has the ability to change things (maybe too much at the moment) from game to game.
Harris is a nice bloke, was a great third tier player and will eventually end up settling at that level for management too. I can't see him lasting the season for you as Cardiff are definitely a side that should be capable of top 6 year in year out.
Good luck for the rest of the season and I hope he proves me wrong.
A Millwall fan since 1968.

Re: HE HAS TO GO!

Sun Nov 01, 2020 11:24 am

I have defended Harris a lot since he's been here as he done a brilliant job last season. He's had to deal with balancing the books this season as well as losing NML. But it is getting harder to support him with each game. I fully expected us to kick on from last season. I knew it was going to be a battle for top 6 as the championship is very competitive. We've also been very unfortunate in losing key players through injury. Tomlin, wilson and Tutu would improve the starting 11 consideraly. That said, we should be seeing much more from this team. Looks like we've gone backwards a fair bit.

There are always going to be individual errors in games but a lot of the poor performances are a result of his team selection and tactics. The main issue is we keep making the same mistakes every game and Harris is yet to change anything. Sloppy defending and passing is costing us too many goals. It seems Harris's philosophy is play football as far away from warnocks tactics as possible. I'm all for moving away from that football but the transition needs to be balanced. Hes got us trying to play like Fulham with a team not suited to play it. Might be more suited when we have tomlin and wilson available but when we don't we need to change tactics to suit the team. The derby game was shocking and he picked the same team yesterday expecting the introduction of Murphy to change it. The performance was just as bad as the trio in the middle are limited in their passing and creativity. I called it before kick off so it shouldn't be difficult for a professional manager to see it. We look much better (not difficult) when we go behind as we are forced to go at teams. Setup like that and skip the first section that leaves us with an uphill battle.
Also seems some people will play regardless of their form. Bennets form has been questionable for a while, a youngster comes in does a brilliant job but is dropped straight away for bennet to have another questionable game. We bought a target man but are reluctant to get balls into the box for him. If he's starting we need to play to his strengths.

Rant over. I think Harris needs a minimum of 4 points from his next two games to save his job.

Re: HE HAS TO GO!

Sun Nov 01, 2020 12:12 pm

Next 2 games are make or break. We get 2 wins against Barnsley and Bristol, we are back in top 8. Unless he gets 4 points the pressure keeps building.

Re: HE HAS TO GO!

Sun Nov 01, 2020 12:44 pm

doug wrote:At Millwall he showed that mid table management ability is the best he is capable of. Hugely limited tactically (have you had the 85 minute pointlessly late substitutions yet?) his success is based on building a great team spirit and being tough and giving 100%. When that is not enough he sadly is incapable of ever accepting his limitations and starts lashing out at the team in public. That leads to dressing room discontent and it all falls apart. He will have 1 or 2 chosen ones that he plays no matter how bad their form is that will have you scratching your head in bewilderment.
Watching unattractive football is okay if you are least getting results but when everyone works you out and the results start turning, then not so much. He left us with some players on big wages that were bought purely out of desperation and now sit on the bench running down their contracts whilst doing bugger all for the money.
We are not completely there yet but Rowett has us playing much better football and has the ability to change things (maybe too much at the moment) from game to game.
Harris is a nice bloke, was a great third tier player and will eventually end up settling at that level for management too. I can't see him lasting the season for you as Cardiff are definitely a side that should be capable of top 6 year in year out.
Good luck for the rest of the season and I hope he proves me wrong.
A Millwall fan since 1968.



thanks for posting your thoughts....read other Millwall say similar..
yes we have had the 85th minute sub...he went a bit better yesterday ....board goes up 5 mins added... so at 3-2 down in the very final minute of the 5 he brings a young boy on...which was the cherry on top of an awful performance..

Re: HE HAS TO GO!

Sun Nov 01, 2020 2:11 pm

skidemin wrote:
doug wrote:At Millwall he showed that mid table management ability is the best he is capable of. Hugely limited tactically (have you had the 85 minute pointlessly late substitutions yet?) his success is based on building a great team spirit and being tough and giving 100%. When that is not enough he sadly is incapable of ever accepting his limitations and starts lashing out at the team in public. That leads to dressing room discontent and it all falls apart. He will have 1 or 2 chosen ones that he plays no matter how bad their form is that will have you scratching your head in bewilderment.
Watching unattractive football is okay if you are least getting results but when everyone works you out and the results start turning, then not so much. He left us with some players on big wages that were bought purely out of desperation and now sit on the bench running down their contracts whilst doing bugger all for the money.
We are not completely there yet but Rowett has us playing much better football and has the ability to change things (maybe too much at the moment) from game to game.
Harris is a nice bloke, was a great third tier player and will eventually end up settling at that level for management too. I can't see him lasting the season for you as Cardiff are definitely a side that should be capable of top 6 year in year out.
Good luck for the rest of the season and I hope he proves me wrong.
A Millwall fan since 1968.



thanks for posting your thoughts....read other Millwall say similar..
yes we have had the 85th minute sub...he went a bit better yesterday ....board goes up 5 mins added... so at 3-2 down in the very final minute of the 5 he brings a young boy on...which was the cherry on top of an awful performance..



The injury time substitution mind boggling WHEN losing

Re: HE HAS TO GO!

Sun Nov 01, 2020 2:34 pm

Sven wrote:
carmarthen bluebird wrote:I always back managers, but he has to go.

Contradictory statement there...!? :shock: :roll:



I also giggled when reading that!.

Re: HE HAS TO GO!

Sun Nov 01, 2020 5:51 pm

Just a thought,it seems to be coincidental that since the sudden departure of NML,we seem to be in some kind of trance?? Has it possibly caused a stir behind the scenes?

Re: HE HAS TO GO!

Sun Nov 01, 2020 5:54 pm

bluesince62 wrote:
Sven wrote:
carmarthen bluebird wrote:I always back managers, but he has to go.

Contradictory statement there...!? :shock: :roll:



I also giggled when reading that!.



I'm fully behind you. Here's your P45 :D

Re: HE HAS TO GO!

Sun Nov 01, 2020 10:50 pm

Once a blue always a blue44 wrote:
Isawgarystevensscoreagoal wrote:The players being moaned about as not good enough are all Warnocks players. Our midfield is simply not good enough, Pack, vaulkes, Ralls, Murphy, Hoillet. All Warnocks signings, though he chose not to play a few of them. Our best wide player, ML, has gone.

Ojo looks like he can deliver, Wilson is class but has missed two games and Moore may be a striker and better than anything we've had for a while.

Warnock signed loads and spent loads and most of it failed.

Harris' only strange signing at this point is the Croatian who we've not seen yet. I assume this means that now he works with him every day he's not deemed better than Morrison or Nelson.

I'm not saying Harris is answer. He performed a minor miracle to get us to playoffs where we all knew we were punching above our weight.

Which players was he referring to post QPR?

Our season is going to be entirely dependent on how many minutes a fully fit Tomlin and a fully fit Wilson are on the pitch for. One of those another Warnock signing who he didn't play and the other Harris key signing so far.


I completely disagree with Warnocks signings completely failing. In his first season (despite it not being a whole season) he dragged us up from bottom right up the table. The 2nd full season we were promoted with a team that probably shouldn’t have been promoted - we went up because of Warnock. Perhaps now we are seeing exactly how good the players are under another manager. We were extremely unlucky not to stay up in the premier league. We had the Sala incident which was really tragic. We had so many poor poor decisions go against us it was unbelievable. I believe if we had Sala we would have stayed up. Not just his contribution into the team but the tragedy wouldn’t have affected the players and manager. IMO Warnock was never the Same after what happened to Sala. Iwould take Warnock back in a heart beat.

Yes ok things went wrong in Warnocks 4th season with us but perhaps the Incidences were just too much. Putting that aside he had done what he had set out to do - win us promotion. To do it all again was a massive ask and probably lost the energy that he once had with us. Warnock is given way too much stick on here and people forget very quickly what he did for us. The thing that I will say is that it was a virus the club listened to the fans when they appointed Warnock because we were all crying out for him. Perhaps the club should listen to the fans next time. I do like Harris and I think he should be given abit more time however don’t forget how long Warnock was given when things started going wrong in the championship! The same should be for Harris.


I said most of his signings failed. And they did. He did a lot of good and I'm grateful he reunited our club but he signed a lot of duds and for strong money. No ccfc manager has ever spent in real terms the amount he did and we didn't have much to show for it in terms of assets.

Re: HE HAS TO GO!

Mon Nov 02, 2020 12:21 am

Isawgarystevensscoreagoal wrote:
Once a blue always a blue44 wrote:
Isawgarystevensscoreagoal wrote:The players being moaned about as not good enough are all Warnocks players. Our midfield is simply not good enough, Pack, vaulkes, Ralls, Murphy, Hoillet. All Warnocks signings, though he chose not to play a few of them. Our best wide player, ML, has gone.

Ojo looks like he can deliver, Wilson is class but has missed two games and Moore may be a striker and better than anything we've had for a while.

Warnock signed loads and spent loads and most of it failed.

Harris' only strange signing at this point is the Croatian who we've not seen yet. I assume this means that now he works with him every day he's not deemed better than Morrison or Nelson.

I'm not saying Harris is answer. He performed a minor miracle to get us to playoffs where we all knew we were punching above our weight.

Which players was he referring to post QPR?

Our season is going to be entirely dependent on how many minutes a fully fit Tomlin and a fully fit Wilson are on the pitch for. One of those another Warnock signing who he didn't play and the other Harris key signing so far.


I completely disagree with Warnocks signings completely failing. In his first season (despite it not being a whole season) he dragged us up from bottom right up the table. The 2nd full season we were promoted with a team that probably shouldn’t have been promoted - we went up because of Warnock. Perhaps now we are seeing exactly how good the players are under another manager. We were extremely unlucky not to stay up in the premier league. We had the Sala incident which was really tragic. We had so many poor poor decisions go against us it was unbelievable. I believe if we had Sala we would have stayed up. Not just his contribution into the team but the tragedy wouldn’t have affected the players and manager. IMO Warnock was never the Same after what happened to Sala. Iwould take Warnock back in a heart beat.

Yes ok things went wrong in Warnocks 4th season with us but perhaps the Incidences were just too much. Putting that aside he had done what he had set out to do - win us promotion. To do it all again was a massive ask and probably lost the energy that he once had with us. Warnock is given way too much stick on here and people forget very quickly what he did for us. The thing that I will say is that it was a virus the club listened to the fans when they appointed Warnock because we were all crying out for him. Perhaps the club should listen to the fans next time. I do like Harris and I think he should be given abit more time however don’t forget how long Warnock was given when things started going wrong in the championship! The same should be for Harris.


I said most of his signings failed. And they did. He did a lot of good and I'm grateful he reunited our club but he signed a lot of duds and for strong money. No ccfc manager has ever spent in real terms the amount he did and we didn't have much to show for it in terms of assets.



yes mate thats how we were the club that had spent the least on its squad per premier league point.... and not by a small margin either it was less than half anyone else had is the reality ... doesnt really take much thinking about either...