Sat Oct 31, 2020 5:01 pm
Sat Oct 31, 2020 5:03 pm
Sat Oct 31, 2020 5:05 pm
Sat Oct 31, 2020 5:05 pm
Sat Oct 31, 2020 5:09 pm
oohahhPaulMillar wrote:QPR I follow commentary team just summed it up.. “I expected so much more from Cardiff “
Sat Oct 31, 2020 5:14 pm
Sat Oct 31, 2020 5:16 pm
Sat Oct 31, 2020 5:19 pm
Sat Oct 31, 2020 5:24 pm
Sat Oct 31, 2020 5:43 pm
Sat Oct 31, 2020 5:57 pm
Aberbeeg Blues wrote:This job is way too big for him. Time for him to go
Dressing room bust ups and fans turning on him
Sat Oct 31, 2020 7:07 pm
Sam ReaN wrote:Our best players injured and no strength in depth. No quality. It's a shame for Harris it seems that no matter what he does the team cant do anything on the pitch. Nice not to see slow Hoilett but the problems remain with lack of quality options. The midfield seem stale and with Bacuna as right back is not the answer. I say put the academy players in the midfeild and out wide as wingers. It looks like the team are stale in midfield and the wingers as well with Hoilett slow, Murphy's heart is not in it anymore and the midfield having Vaulks, Pack and Ralls there is the same old same old really and its predictable for other teams.
I say keep Moore, Morrison, Nelson, Smithies and have the rest as young academy players at least then you are trying out the youngsters and fans can understand that your trying something completely different in order to change up the team making it less predictable for teams and could have hidden gems that you might carry on playing. And then who knows we could have the youngest team to play a game in the EFL but at least you are trying different players.
Sat Oct 31, 2020 7:21 pm
Sat Oct 31, 2020 7:36 pm
Sam ReaN wrote:Our best players injured and no strength in depth. No quality. It's a shame for Harris it seems that no matter what he does the team cant do anything on the pitch. Nice not to see slow Hoilett but the problems remain with lack of quality options. The midfield seem stale and with Bacuna as right back is not the answer. I say put the academy players in the midfeild and out wide as wingers. It looks like the team are stale in midfield and the wingers as well with Hoilett slow, Murphy's heart is not in it anymore and the midfield having Vaulks, Pack and Ralls there is the same old same old really and its predictable for other teams.
I say keep Moore, Morrison, Nelson, Smithies and have the rest as young academy players at least then you are trying out the youngsters and fans can understand that your trying something completely different in order to change up the team making it less predictable for teams and could have hidden gems that you might carry on playing. And then who knows we could have the youngest team to play a game in the EFL but at least you are trying different players.
Sat Oct 31, 2020 11:17 pm
Sun Nov 01, 2020 1:31 am
carmarthen bluebird wrote:I always back managers, but he has to go.
Sun Nov 01, 2020 6:31 am
Sun Nov 01, 2020 9:43 am
Isawgarystevensscoreagoal wrote:The players being moaned about as not good enough are all Warnocks players. Our midfield is simply not good enough, Pack, vaulkes, Ralls, Murphy, Hoillet. All Warnocks signings, though he chose not to play a few of them. Our best wide player, ML, has gone.
Ojo looks like he can deliver, Wilson is class but has missed two games and Moore may be a striker and better than anything we've had for a while.
Warnock signed loads and spent loads and most of it failed.
Harris' only strange signing at this point is the Croatian who we've not seen yet. I assume this means that now he works with him every day he's not deemed better than Morrison or Nelson.
I'm not saying Harris is answer. He performed a minor miracle to get us to playoffs where we all knew we were punching above our weight.
Which players was he referring to post QPR?
Our season is going to be entirely dependent on how many minutes a fully fit Tomlin and a fully fit Wilson are on the pitch for. One of those another Warnock signing who he didn't play and the other Harris key signing so far.
Sun Nov 01, 2020 10:43 am
Sun Nov 01, 2020 11:24 am
Sun Nov 01, 2020 12:12 pm
Sun Nov 01, 2020 12:44 pm
doug wrote:At Millwall he showed that mid table management ability is the best he is capable of. Hugely limited tactically (have you had the 85 minute pointlessly late substitutions yet?) his success is based on building a great team spirit and being tough and giving 100%. When that is not enough he sadly is incapable of ever accepting his limitations and starts lashing out at the team in public. That leads to dressing room discontent and it all falls apart. He will have 1 or 2 chosen ones that he plays no matter how bad their form is that will have you scratching your head in bewilderment.
Watching unattractive football is okay if you are least getting results but when everyone works you out and the results start turning, then not so much. He left us with some players on big wages that were bought purely out of desperation and now sit on the bench running down their contracts whilst doing bugger all for the money.
We are not completely there yet but Rowett has us playing much better football and has the ability to change things (maybe too much at the moment) from game to game.
Harris is a nice bloke, was a great third tier player and will eventually end up settling at that level for management too. I can't see him lasting the season for you as Cardiff are definitely a side that should be capable of top 6 year in year out.
Good luck for the rest of the season and I hope he proves me wrong.
A Millwall fan since 1968.
Sun Nov 01, 2020 2:11 pm
skidemin wrote:doug wrote:At Millwall he showed that mid table management ability is the best he is capable of. Hugely limited tactically (have you had the 85 minute pointlessly late substitutions yet?) his success is based on building a great team spirit and being tough and giving 100%. When that is not enough he sadly is incapable of ever accepting his limitations and starts lashing out at the team in public. That leads to dressing room discontent and it all falls apart. He will have 1 or 2 chosen ones that he plays no matter how bad their form is that will have you scratching your head in bewilderment.
Watching unattractive football is okay if you are least getting results but when everyone works you out and the results start turning, then not so much. He left us with some players on big wages that were bought purely out of desperation and now sit on the bench running down their contracts whilst doing bugger all for the money.
We are not completely there yet but Rowett has us playing much better football and has the ability to change things (maybe too much at the moment) from game to game.
Harris is a nice bloke, was a great third tier player and will eventually end up settling at that level for management too. I can't see him lasting the season for you as Cardiff are definitely a side that should be capable of top 6 year in year out.
Good luck for the rest of the season and I hope he proves me wrong.
A Millwall fan since 1968.
thanks for posting your thoughts....read other Millwall say similar..
yes we have had the 85th minute sub...he went a bit better yesterday ....board goes up 5 mins added... so at 3-2 down in the very final minute of the 5 he brings a young boy on...which was the cherry on top of an awful performance..
Sun Nov 01, 2020 2:34 pm
Sven wrote:carmarthen bluebird wrote:I always back managers, but he has to go.
Contradictory statement there...!?![]()
Sun Nov 01, 2020 5:51 pm
Sun Nov 01, 2020 5:54 pm
bluesince62 wrote:Sven wrote:carmarthen bluebird wrote:I always back managers, but he has to go.
Contradictory statement there...!?![]()
I also giggled when reading that!.
Sun Nov 01, 2020 10:50 pm
Once a blue always a blue44 wrote:Isawgarystevensscoreagoal wrote:The players being moaned about as not good enough are all Warnocks players. Our midfield is simply not good enough, Pack, vaulkes, Ralls, Murphy, Hoillet. All Warnocks signings, though he chose not to play a few of them. Our best wide player, ML, has gone.
Ojo looks like he can deliver, Wilson is class but has missed two games and Moore may be a striker and better than anything we've had for a while.
Warnock signed loads and spent loads and most of it failed.
Harris' only strange signing at this point is the Croatian who we've not seen yet. I assume this means that now he works with him every day he's not deemed better than Morrison or Nelson.
I'm not saying Harris is answer. He performed a minor miracle to get us to playoffs where we all knew we were punching above our weight.
Which players was he referring to post QPR?
Our season is going to be entirely dependent on how many minutes a fully fit Tomlin and a fully fit Wilson are on the pitch for. One of those another Warnock signing who he didn't play and the other Harris key signing so far.
I completely disagree with Warnocks signings completely failing. In his first season (despite it not being a whole season) he dragged us up from bottom right up the table. The 2nd full season we were promoted with a team that probably shouldn’t have been promoted - we went up because of Warnock. Perhaps now we are seeing exactly how good the players are under another manager. We were extremely unlucky not to stay up in the premier league. We had the Sala incident which was really tragic. We had so many poor poor decisions go against us it was unbelievable. I believe if we had Sala we would have stayed up. Not just his contribution into the team but the tragedy wouldn’t have affected the players and manager. IMO Warnock was never the Same after what happened to Sala. Iwould take Warnock back in a heart beat.
Yes ok things went wrong in Warnocks 4th season with us but perhaps the Incidences were just too much. Putting that aside he had done what he had set out to do - win us promotion. To do it all again was a massive ask and probably lost the energy that he once had with us. Warnock is given way too much stick on here and people forget very quickly what he did for us. The thing that I will say is that it was a virus the club listened to the fans when they appointed Warnock because we were all crying out for him. Perhaps the club should listen to the fans next time. I do like Harris and I think he should be given abit more time however don’t forget how long Warnock was given when things started going wrong in the championship! The same should be for Harris.
Mon Nov 02, 2020 12:21 am
Isawgarystevensscoreagoal wrote:Once a blue always a blue44 wrote:Isawgarystevensscoreagoal wrote:The players being moaned about as not good enough are all Warnocks players. Our midfield is simply not good enough, Pack, vaulkes, Ralls, Murphy, Hoillet. All Warnocks signings, though he chose not to play a few of them. Our best wide player, ML, has gone.
Ojo looks like he can deliver, Wilson is class but has missed two games and Moore may be a striker and better than anything we've had for a while.
Warnock signed loads and spent loads and most of it failed.
Harris' only strange signing at this point is the Croatian who we've not seen yet. I assume this means that now he works with him every day he's not deemed better than Morrison or Nelson.
I'm not saying Harris is answer. He performed a minor miracle to get us to playoffs where we all knew we were punching above our weight.
Which players was he referring to post QPR?
Our season is going to be entirely dependent on how many minutes a fully fit Tomlin and a fully fit Wilson are on the pitch for. One of those another Warnock signing who he didn't play and the other Harris key signing so far.
I completely disagree with Warnocks signings completely failing. In his first season (despite it not being a whole season) he dragged us up from bottom right up the table. The 2nd full season we were promoted with a team that probably shouldn’t have been promoted - we went up because of Warnock. Perhaps now we are seeing exactly how good the players are under another manager. We were extremely unlucky not to stay up in the premier league. We had the Sala incident which was really tragic. We had so many poor poor decisions go against us it was unbelievable. I believe if we had Sala we would have stayed up. Not just his contribution into the team but the tragedy wouldn’t have affected the players and manager. IMO Warnock was never the Same after what happened to Sala. Iwould take Warnock back in a heart beat.
Yes ok things went wrong in Warnocks 4th season with us but perhaps the Incidences were just too much. Putting that aside he had done what he had set out to do - win us promotion. To do it all again was a massive ask and probably lost the energy that he once had with us. Warnock is given way too much stick on here and people forget very quickly what he did for us. The thing that I will say is that it was a virus the club listened to the fans when they appointed Warnock because we were all crying out for him. Perhaps the club should listen to the fans next time. I do like Harris and I think he should be given abit more time however don’t forget how long Warnock was given when things started going wrong in the championship! The same should be for Harris.
I said most of his signings failed. And they did. He did a lot of good and I'm grateful he reunited our club but he signed a lot of duds and for strong money. No ccfc manager has ever spent in real terms the amount he did and we didn't have much to show for it in terms of assets.