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Racism in sport - Sky sports

Sat Oct 31, 2020 7:03 am

Interested to hear people's thoughts on this

With Sky having a huge black lives matter and racism in sport push why have they allowed this live on there channels for the boxing tonight ?

Surely if blacking up is racist then whitening up should be aswell ?

Do you think this is racist and is anyone offended by it ?
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Re: Racism in sport - Sky sports

Sat Oct 31, 2020 7:44 am

If it's a live event, they can't really control it.

For example, if a Cardiff match was on Sky when fans are allowed back in and you could hear a supporter shout "nigger" at Sol Bamba, then Sky have no control over that.

I take your point though. Sky also under fire because of that show they have, where someone appears to have a swastika tattoo.

Re: Racism in sport - Sky sports

Sat Oct 31, 2020 11:01 am

Offended ? Not a chance he can do as he wants and individual people can judge him. He acted on his own so nothing like the knee BS. To me he looks a tool but if it was the other way round and someone blacked up there would be uproar.
But he does look a complete tool though :lol:

Re: Racism in sport - Sky sports

Sat Oct 31, 2020 11:27 am

Nuclearblue wrote:Offended ? Not a chance he can do as he wants and individual people can judge him. He acted on his own so nothing like the knee BS. To me he looks a tool but if it was the other way round and someone blacked up there would be uproar.
But he does look a complete tool though :lol:


Thats the point , when white people black up they are hounded for it. When a black man whites up its just a bit of fun ?

Re: Racism in sport - Sky sports

Sat Oct 31, 2020 11:28 am

in this insane world where there are people constantly looking to find things to be offended about yes it should probably be looked at as racist. its not though , just speaks volumes about the sincerity of sky.

Re: Racism in sport - Sky sports

Sat Oct 31, 2020 11:45 am

thomasblue wrote:
Nuclearblue wrote:Offended ? Not a chance he can do as he wants and individual people can judge him. He acted on his own so nothing like the knee BS. To me he looks a tool but if it was the other way round and someone blacked up there would be uproar.
But he does look a complete tool though :lol:


Thats the point , when white people black up they are hounded for it. When a black man whites up its just a bit of fun ?


Guess you are too young to remember the Black and White Mintrial show? It was where white guys masked up as black men and with their white lady partners sang songs together. i hated the program not because of the black make up but because of the songs they sang.

Hopefully we will get back to that culture where no one got offended by the make up. If we do the make up will not be required.

Re: Racism in sport - Sky sports

Sat Oct 31, 2020 11:57 am

He can do what he likes in my book, but where is the outcry from the woke anti racism brigade and lefty lovers?
The hypocrisy is so obvious.

Re: Racism in sport - Sky sports

Sat Oct 31, 2020 1:23 pm

Bakedalasker wrote:
thomasblue wrote:
Nuclearblue wrote:Offended ? Not a chance he can do as he wants and individual people can judge him. He acted on his own so nothing like the knee BS. To me he looks a tool but if it was the other way round and someone blacked up there would be uproar.
But he does look a complete tool though :lol:


Thats the point , when white people black up they are hounded for it. When a black man whites up its just a bit of fun ?


Guess you are too young to remember the Black and White Mintrial show? It was where white guys masked up as black men and with their white lady partners sang songs together. i hated the program not because of the black make up but because of the songs they sang.

Hopefully we will get back to that culture where no one got offended by the make up. If we do the make up will not be required.


I do remember and age has nothing really to do with it. The point was is this acceptable but a white man putting black make up on is not ?

Why do sky allow that last night but at the same time have a big push with racism against black people

Re: Racism in sport - Sky sports

Sat Oct 31, 2020 1:30 pm

thomasblue wrote:Interested to hear people's thoughts on this

With Sky having a huge black lives matter and racism in sport push why have they allowed this live on there channels for the boxing tonight ?

Surely if blacking up is racist then whitening up should be aswell ?

Do you think this is racist and is anyone offended by it ?

You make an excellent point; but we should know by now the racism is modernly perceived as one-way traffic :(

I am old enough to remember 'The Black and White Minstrel Show' back in the 70's; a group of talented dancers and singers to a specific 'theme' that is very reminiscent in its conception as that worn by Derek Chisora above

Life and times have certainly moved on (mainly) for the better but I would think we are modernly better informed and aware of what does and doesn't represent 'offence' and I don't overly see Chisora's 'fancy dress' as overtly racist or offensive

However, people should stop and think of the reactions had the roles been reversed and surely what's good for the Goose is surely good for the Gander...? :? :(

Re: Racism in sport - Sky sports

Sat Oct 31, 2020 1:32 pm

Sven wrote:
thomasblue wrote:Interested to hear people's thoughts on this

With Sky having a huge black lives matter and racism in sport push why have they allowed this live on there channels for the boxing tonight ?

Surely if blacking up is racist then whitening up should be aswell ?

Do you think this is racist and is anyone offended by it ?

You make an excellent point; but we should know by now the racism is modernly perceived as one-way traffic :(

I am old enough to remember 'The Black and White Minstrel Show' back in the 70's; a group of talented dancers and singers to a specific 'theme' that is very reminiscent in its conception as that worn by Derek Chisora above

Life and times have certainly moved on (mainly) for the better but I would think we are modernly better informed and aware of what does and doesn't represent 'offence' and I don't overly see Chisora's 'fancy dress' as overtly racist or offensive

However, people should stop and think of the reactions had the roles been reversed and surely what's good for the Goose is surely good for the Gander...?? :? :(



60s mate...stop trying to give your age a hair cut :lol:

Re: Racism in sport - Sky sports

Sat Oct 31, 2020 1:33 pm

Sven wrote:
thomasblue wrote:Interested to hear people's thoughts on this

With Sky having a huge black lives matter and racism in sport push why have they allowed this live on there channels for the boxing tonight ?

Surely if blacking up is racist then whitening up should be aswell ?

Do you think this is racist and is anyone offended by it ?

You make an excellent point; but we should know by now the racism is modernly perceived as one-way traffic :(

I am old enough to remember 'The Black and White Minstrel Show' back in the 70's; a group of talented dancers and singers to a specific 'theme' that is very reminiscent in its conception as that worn by Derek Chisora above

Life and times have certainly moved on (mainly) for the better but I would think we are modernly better informed and aware of what does and doesn't represent 'offence' and I don't overly see Chisora's 'fancy dress' as overtly racist or offensive

However, people should stop and think of the reactions had the roles been reversed and surely what's good for the Goose is surely good for the Gander...? :? :(

But that is now banned chief and has been for a long time. But as the original poster has said where is the balance ? I wonder what would be said had both done it at the same time ? Would only one be condemned ? Or both or none in this crazy world of made up racism

Re: Racism in sport - Sky sports

Sat Oct 31, 2020 1:37 pm

Nuclearblue wrote:
Sven wrote:
thomasblue wrote:Interested to hear people's thoughts on this

With Sky having a huge black lives matter and racism in sport push why have they allowed this live on there channels for the boxing tonight ?

Surely if blacking up is racist then whitening up should be aswell ?

Do you think this is racist and is anyone offended by it ?

You make an excellent point; but we should know by now the racism is modernly perceived as one-way traffic :(

I am old enough to remember 'The Black and White Minstrel Show' back in the 70's; a group of talented dancers and singers to a specific 'theme' that is very reminiscent in its conception as that worn by Derek Chisora above

Life and times have certainly moved on (mainly) for the better but I would think we are modernly better informed and aware of what does and doesn't represent 'offence' and I don't overly see Chisora's 'fancy dress' as overtly racist or offensive

However, people should stop and think of the reactions had the roles been reversed and surely what's good for the Goose is surely good for the Gander...? :? :(

But that is now banned chief and has been for a long time. But as the original poster has said where is the balance ? I wonder what would be said had both done it at the same time ? Would only one be condemned ? Or both or none in this crazy world of made up racism

That's my point, Nukes :thumbup:

It was a long time ago (The Black and White Minstrels) but Chisora has effectively done the same thing by making himself 'look' white; albeit as a ghostly figure and you can be assured the noise would have been much louder had it been the other way around last night

Just want the balance to be fair...! :thumbup: :ayatollah:

Re: Racism in sport - Sky sports

Sat Oct 31, 2020 1:38 pm

skidemin wrote:
Sven wrote:
thomasblue wrote:Interested to hear people's thoughts on this

With Sky having a huge black lives matter and racism in sport push why have they allowed this live on there channels for the boxing tonight ?

Surely if blacking up is racist then whitening up should be aswell ?

Do you think this is racist and is anyone offended by it ?

You make an excellent point; but we should know by now the racism is modernly perceived as one-way traffic :(

I am old enough to remember 'The Black and White Minstrel Show' back in the 70's; a group of talented dancers and singers to a specific 'theme' that is very reminiscent in its conception as that worn by Derek Chisora above

Life and times have certainly moved on (mainly) for the better but I would think we are modernly better informed and aware of what does and doesn't represent 'offence' and I don't overly see Chisora's 'fancy dress' as overtly racist or offensive

However, people should stop and think of the reactions had the roles been reversed and surely what's good for the Goose is surely good for the Gander...?? :? :(



60s mate...stop trying to give your age a hair cut :lol:

Don't need a hair cut these days but you're right; it was a long time ago! :lol:

Re: Racism in sport - Sky sports

Sat Oct 31, 2020 1:38 pm

skidemin wrote:
Sven wrote:
thomasblue wrote:Interested to hear people's thoughts on this

With Sky having a huge black lives matter and racism in sport push why have they allowed this live on there channels for the boxing tonight ?

Surely if blacking up is racist then whitening up should be aswell ?

Do you think this is racist and is anyone offended by it ?

You make an excellent point; but we should know by now the racism is modernly perceived as one-way traffic :(

I am old enough to remember 'The Black and White Minstrel Show' back in the 70's; a group of talented dancers and singers to a specific 'theme' that is very reminiscent in its conception as that worn by Derek Chisora above

Life and times have certainly moved on (mainly) for the better but I would think we are modernly better informed and aware of what does and doesn't represent 'offence' and I don't overly see Chisora's 'fancy dress' as overtly racist or offensive

However, people should stop and think of the reactions had the roles been reversed and surely what's good for the Goose is surely good for the Gander...?? :? :(



60s mate...stop trying to give your age a hair cut :lol:


Apparently it ran from 58 to 78 so you takes your pick of which years you watched it.

Re: Racism in sport - Sky sports

Sat Oct 31, 2020 1:38 pm

Seriously I more worried about him not wearing a mask. If the whitening thing is bothering you so much then cancel halloween for black people. Otherwise its a pointless topic. Because no one on Sky actually cares about anyone who is against the Black Lives Matter so yeah its all pointless really.

Re: Racism in sport - Sky sports

Sat Oct 31, 2020 1:42 pm

Sam ReaN wrote:Seriously I more worried about him not wearing a mask. If the whitening thing is bothering you so much then cancel halloween for black people. Otherwise its a pointless topic. Because no one on Sky actually cares about anyone who is against the Black Lives Matter so yeah its all pointless really.

One of your better posts to date, SamRean. Well said, young man... :clap: :ayatollah:

Re: Racism in sport - Sky sports

Sat Oct 31, 2020 2:04 pm

Welshman in CA wrote:
skidemin wrote:
Sven wrote:
thomasblue wrote:Interested to hear people's thoughts on this

With Sky having a huge black lives matter and racism in sport push why have they allowed this live on there channels for the boxing tonight ?

Surely if blacking up is racist then whitening up should be aswell ?

Do you think this is racist and is anyone offended by it ?

You make an excellent point; but we should know by now the racism is modernly perceived as one-way traffic :(

I am old enough to remember 'The Black and White Minstrel Show' back in the 70's; a group of talented dancers and singers to a specific 'theme' that is very reminiscent in its conception as that worn by Derek Chisora above

Life and times have certainly moved on (mainly) for the better but I would think we are modernly better informed and aware of what does and doesn't represent 'offence' and I don't overly see Chisora's 'fancy dress' as overtly racist or offensive

However, people should stop and think of the reactions had the roles been reversed and surely what's good for the Goose is surely good for the Gander...?? :? :(



60s mate...stop trying to give your age a hair cut :lol:


Apparently it ran from 58 to 78 so you takes your pick of which years you watched it.



i thought it was awful so i probably watched a few shows in the 60s and just presumed it had ended by the 70s...
must have looked pretty dated by 1978

Re: Racism in sport - Sky sports

Sat Oct 31, 2020 4:46 pm

Isn't this more of a Halloween thing. Like the african witchdocor look? If so has nothing to do with skin colour.

Re: Racism in sport - Sky sports

Sat Oct 31, 2020 4:50 pm

nubbsy wrote:Isn't this more of a Halloween thing. Like the african witchdocor look? If so has nothing to do with skin colour.


Shhhhhh, that doesn't meet the narrative.

Re: Racism in sport - Sky sports

Sat Oct 31, 2020 4:58 pm

Aint he supposed to be the Joker?

Re: Racism in sport - Sky sports

Sat Oct 31, 2020 5:15 pm

Welshman in CA wrote:
nubbsy wrote:Isn't this more of a Halloween thing. Like the african witchdocor look? If so has nothing to do with skin colour.


Shhhhhh, that doesn't meet the narrative.


No narrative .
I'm not saying either way its a question whether it is racist or not for a black man to white himself up for any reason. Simple question. If it is why is it different to the opposite.

Most white people who have been in trouble in the past has also been down to Halloween or a fancy dress event like the canadian prime minister who dressed as Alladin so that argument doesn't comply here.

Re: Racism in sport - Sky sports

Sat Oct 31, 2020 5:48 pm

Welshman in CA wrote:
nubbsy wrote:Isn't this more of a Halloween thing. Like the african witchdocor look? If so has nothing to do with skin colour.


Shhhhhh, that doesn't meet the narrative.



the narrative of course being lots of things being called racist when they clearly are not....

Re: Racism in sport - Sky sports

Sat Oct 31, 2020 7:33 pm

skidemin wrote:
Welshman in CA wrote:
nubbsy wrote:Isn't this more of a Halloween thing. Like the african witchdocor look? If so has nothing to do with skin colour.


Shhhhhh, that doesn't meet the narrative.



the narrative of course being lots of things being called racist when they clearly are not....


And some not being called racist when they clearly are.

I'm sure we can all come up with examples either way and it might even be a worthwhile discussion one day but with all the name calling going on today is not that day, or month, or year.

Re: Racism in sport - Sky sports

Sat Oct 31, 2020 8:08 pm

Welshman in CA wrote:
skidemin wrote:
Welshman in CA wrote:
nubbsy wrote:Isn't this more of a Halloween thing. Like the african witchdocor look? If so has nothing to do with skin colour.


Shhhhhh, that doesn't meet the narrative.



the narrative of course being lots of things being called racist when they clearly are not....


And some not being called racist when they clearly are.

I'm sure we can all come up with examples either way and it might even be a worthwhile discussion one day but with all the name calling going on today is not that day, or month, or year.



:lol: fair enough.

Re: Racism in sport - Sky sports

Sat Oct 31, 2020 8:15 pm

Wasn’t ex Ex City director Stan Stennett in the Minstrel show?
Just trivia that’s all - he was in crossroads as well ;)

Re: Racism in sport - Sky sports

Sat Oct 31, 2020 8:29 pm

nubbsy wrote:Isn't this more of a Halloween thing. Like the african witchdocor look? If so has nothing to do with skin colour.

Mate, clearly it's a scary Halloween thing; but I think the discussion is more about 'What if it was the other way around?' when many feel it would be seized on by those with that particular agenda

Re: Racism in sport - Sky sports

Sat Oct 31, 2020 8:37 pm

Sven wrote:
nubbsy wrote:Isn't this more of a Halloween thing. Like the african witchdocor look? If so has nothing to do with skin colour.

Mate, clearly it's a scary Halloween thing; but I think the discussion is more about 'What if it was the other way around?' when many feel it would be seized on by those with that particular agenda



indeed..if you dressed up and boot polished up for the african witch doctor look...racism would defo be said by someone...

Re: Racism in sport - Sky sports

Sat Oct 31, 2020 8:39 pm

skidemin wrote:
Sven wrote:
nubbsy wrote:Isn't this more of a Halloween thing. Like the african witchdocor look? If so has nothing to do with skin colour.

Mate, clearly it's a scary Halloween thing; but I think the discussion is more about 'What if it was the other way around?' when many feel it would be seized on by those with that particular agenda



indeed..if you dressed up and boot polished up for the african witch doctor look...racism would defo be said by someone...



Absolutely.

Re: Racism in sport - Sky sports

Sat Oct 31, 2020 10:06 pm

I get what people mean by pointing out it's a double standard. But ultimately my position of freedom of speech and freedom.of expression win out. A roll my eyes and move on situation.