Sat Oct 31, 2020 7:03 am
Sat Oct 31, 2020 7:44 am
Sat Oct 31, 2020 11:01 am
Sat Oct 31, 2020 11:27 am
Nuclearblue wrote:Offended ? Not a chance he can do as he wants and individual people can judge him. He acted on his own so nothing like the knee BS. To me he looks a tool but if it was the other way round and someone blacked up there would be uproar.
But he does look a complete tool though
Sat Oct 31, 2020 11:28 am
Sat Oct 31, 2020 11:45 am
thomasblue wrote:Nuclearblue wrote:Offended ? Not a chance he can do as he wants and individual people can judge him. He acted on his own so nothing like the knee BS. To me he looks a tool but if it was the other way round and someone blacked up there would be uproar.
But he does look a complete tool though
Thats the point , when white people black up they are hounded for it. When a black man whites up its just a bit of fun ?
Sat Oct 31, 2020 11:57 am
Sat Oct 31, 2020 1:23 pm
Bakedalasker wrote:thomasblue wrote:Nuclearblue wrote:Offended ? Not a chance he can do as he wants and individual people can judge him. He acted on his own so nothing like the knee BS. To me he looks a tool but if it was the other way round and someone blacked up there would be uproar.
But he does look a complete tool though
Thats the point , when white people black up they are hounded for it. When a black man whites up its just a bit of fun ?
Guess you are too young to remember the Black and White Mintrial show? It was where white guys masked up as black men and with their white lady partners sang songs together. i hated the program not because of the black make up but because of the songs they sang.
Hopefully we will get back to that culture where no one got offended by the make up. If we do the make up will not be required.
Sat Oct 31, 2020 1:30 pm
thomasblue wrote:Interested to hear people's thoughts on this
With Sky having a huge black lives matter and racism in sport push why have they allowed this live on there channels for the boxing tonight ?
Surely if blacking up is racist then whitening up should be aswell ?
Do you think this is racist and is anyone offended by it ?
Sat Oct 31, 2020 1:32 pm
Sven wrote:thomasblue wrote:Interested to hear people's thoughts on this
With Sky having a huge black lives matter and racism in sport push why have they allowed this live on there channels for the boxing tonight ?
Surely if blacking up is racist then whitening up should be aswell ?
Do you think this is racist and is anyone offended by it ?
You make an excellent point; but we should know by now the racism is modernly perceived as one-way traffic
I am old enough to remember 'The Black and White Minstrel Show' back in the 70's; a group of talented dancers and singers to a specific 'theme' that is very reminiscent in its conception as that worn by Derek Chisora above
Life and times have certainly moved on (mainly) for the better but I would think we are modernly better informed and aware of what does and doesn't represent 'offence' and I don't overly see Chisora's 'fancy dress' as overtly racist or offensive
However, people should stop and think of the reactions had the roles been reversed and surely what's good for the Goose is surely good for the Gander...??![]()
Sat Oct 31, 2020 1:33 pm
Sven wrote:thomasblue wrote:Interested to hear people's thoughts on this
With Sky having a huge black lives matter and racism in sport push why have they allowed this live on there channels for the boxing tonight ?
Surely if blacking up is racist then whitening up should be aswell ?
Do you think this is racist and is anyone offended by it ?
You make an excellent point; but we should know by now the racism is modernly perceived as one-way traffic
I am old enough to remember 'The Black and White Minstrel Show' back in the 70's; a group of talented dancers and singers to a specific 'theme' that is very reminiscent in its conception as that worn by Derek Chisora above
Life and times have certainly moved on (mainly) for the better but I would think we are modernly better informed and aware of what does and doesn't represent 'offence' and I don't overly see Chisora's 'fancy dress' as overtly racist or offensive
However, people should stop and think of the reactions had the roles been reversed and surely what's good for the Goose is surely good for the Gander...?![]()
Sat Oct 31, 2020 1:37 pm
Nuclearblue wrote:Sven wrote:thomasblue wrote:Interested to hear people's thoughts on this
With Sky having a huge black lives matter and racism in sport push why have they allowed this live on there channels for the boxing tonight ?
Surely if blacking up is racist then whitening up should be aswell ?
Do you think this is racist and is anyone offended by it ?
You make an excellent point; but we should know by now the racism is modernly perceived as one-way traffic
I am old enough to remember 'The Black and White Minstrel Show' back in the 70's; a group of talented dancers and singers to a specific 'theme' that is very reminiscent in its conception as that worn by Derek Chisora above
Life and times have certainly moved on (mainly) for the better but I would think we are modernly better informed and aware of what does and doesn't represent 'offence' and I don't overly see Chisora's 'fancy dress' as overtly racist or offensive
However, people should stop and think of the reactions had the roles been reversed and surely what's good for the Goose is surely good for the Gander...?![]()
But that is now banned chief and has been for a long time. But as the original poster has said where is the balance ? I wonder what would be said had both done it at the same time ? Would only one be condemned ? Or both or none in this crazy world of made up racism
Sat Oct 31, 2020 1:38 pm
skidemin wrote:Sven wrote:thomasblue wrote:Interested to hear people's thoughts on this
With Sky having a huge black lives matter and racism in sport push why have they allowed this live on there channels for the boxing tonight ?
Surely if blacking up is racist then whitening up should be aswell ?
Do you think this is racist and is anyone offended by it ?
You make an excellent point; but we should know by now the racism is modernly perceived as one-way traffic
I am old enough to remember 'The Black and White Minstrel Show' back in the 70's; a group of talented dancers and singers to a specific 'theme' that is very reminiscent in its conception as that worn by Derek Chisora above
Life and times have certainly moved on (mainly) for the better but I would think we are modernly better informed and aware of what does and doesn't represent 'offence' and I don't overly see Chisora's 'fancy dress' as overtly racist or offensive
However, people should stop and think of the reactions had the roles been reversed and surely what's good for the Goose is surely good for the Gander...??![]()
60s mate...stop trying to give your age a hair cut
Sat Oct 31, 2020 1:38 pm
skidemin wrote:Sven wrote:thomasblue wrote:Interested to hear people's thoughts on this
With Sky having a huge black lives matter and racism in sport push why have they allowed this live on there channels for the boxing tonight ?
Surely if blacking up is racist then whitening up should be aswell ?
Do you think this is racist and is anyone offended by it ?
You make an excellent point; but we should know by now the racism is modernly perceived as one-way traffic
I am old enough to remember 'The Black and White Minstrel Show' back in the 70's; a group of talented dancers and singers to a specific 'theme' that is very reminiscent in its conception as that worn by Derek Chisora above
Life and times have certainly moved on (mainly) for the better but I would think we are modernly better informed and aware of what does and doesn't represent 'offence' and I don't overly see Chisora's 'fancy dress' as overtly racist or offensive
However, people should stop and think of the reactions had the roles been reversed and surely what's good for the Goose is surely good for the Gander...??![]()
60s mate...stop trying to give your age a hair cut
Sat Oct 31, 2020 1:38 pm
Sat Oct 31, 2020 1:42 pm
Sam ReaN wrote:Seriously I more worried about him not wearing a mask. If the whitening thing is bothering you so much then cancel halloween for black people. Otherwise its a pointless topic. Because no one on Sky actually cares about anyone who is against the Black Lives Matter so yeah its all pointless really.
Sat Oct 31, 2020 2:04 pm
Welshman in CA wrote:skidemin wrote:Sven wrote:thomasblue wrote:Interested to hear people's thoughts on this
With Sky having a huge black lives matter and racism in sport push why have they allowed this live on there channels for the boxing tonight ?
Surely if blacking up is racist then whitening up should be aswell ?
Do you think this is racist and is anyone offended by it ?
You make an excellent point; but we should know by now the racism is modernly perceived as one-way traffic
I am old enough to remember 'The Black and White Minstrel Show' back in the 70's; a group of talented dancers and singers to a specific 'theme' that is very reminiscent in its conception as that worn by Derek Chisora above
Life and times have certainly moved on (mainly) for the better but I would think we are modernly better informed and aware of what does and doesn't represent 'offence' and I don't overly see Chisora's 'fancy dress' as overtly racist or offensive
However, people should stop and think of the reactions had the roles been reversed and surely what's good for the Goose is surely good for the Gander...??![]()
60s mate...stop trying to give your age a hair cut
Apparently it ran from 58 to 78 so you takes your pick of which years you watched it.
Sat Oct 31, 2020 4:46 pm
Sat Oct 31, 2020 4:50 pm
nubbsy wrote:Isn't this more of a Halloween thing. Like the african witchdocor look? If so has nothing to do with skin colour.
Sat Oct 31, 2020 4:58 pm
Sat Oct 31, 2020 5:15 pm
Welshman in CA wrote:nubbsy wrote:Isn't this more of a Halloween thing. Like the african witchdocor look? If so has nothing to do with skin colour.
Shhhhhh, that doesn't meet the narrative.
Sat Oct 31, 2020 5:48 pm
Welshman in CA wrote:nubbsy wrote:Isn't this more of a Halloween thing. Like the african witchdocor look? If so has nothing to do with skin colour.
Shhhhhh, that doesn't meet the narrative.
Sat Oct 31, 2020 7:33 pm
skidemin wrote:Welshman in CA wrote:nubbsy wrote:Isn't this more of a Halloween thing. Like the african witchdocor look? If so has nothing to do with skin colour.
Shhhhhh, that doesn't meet the narrative.
the narrative of course being lots of things being called racist when they clearly are not....
Sat Oct 31, 2020 8:08 pm
Welshman in CA wrote:skidemin wrote:Welshman in CA wrote:nubbsy wrote:Isn't this more of a Halloween thing. Like the african witchdocor look? If so has nothing to do with skin colour.
Shhhhhh, that doesn't meet the narrative.
the narrative of course being lots of things being called racist when they clearly are not....
And some not being called racist when they clearly are.
I'm sure we can all come up with examples either way and it might even be a worthwhile discussion one day but with all the name calling going on today is not that day, or month, or year.
Sat Oct 31, 2020 8:15 pm
Sat Oct 31, 2020 8:29 pm
nubbsy wrote:Isn't this more of a Halloween thing. Like the african witchdocor look? If so has nothing to do with skin colour.
Sat Oct 31, 2020 8:37 pm
Sven wrote:nubbsy wrote:Isn't this more of a Halloween thing. Like the african witchdocor look? If so has nothing to do with skin colour.
Mate, clearly it's a scary Halloween thing; but I think the discussion is more about 'What if it was the other way around?' when many feel it would be seized on by those with that particular agenda
Sat Oct 31, 2020 8:39 pm
skidemin wrote:Sven wrote:nubbsy wrote:Isn't this more of a Halloween thing. Like the african witchdocor look? If so has nothing to do with skin colour.
Mate, clearly it's a scary Halloween thing; but I think the discussion is more about 'What if it was the other way around?' when many feel it would be seized on by those with that particular agenda
indeed..if you dressed up and boot polished up for the african witch doctor look...racism would defo be said by someone...
Sat Oct 31, 2020 10:06 pm