Lee Tomlin update:

Lee Tomlin update:



NEIL HARRIS:

"Good week for Lee! He’s been on the training pitch and we are hoping he can travel with us to QPR.

"We miss him in the group, his liveliness and chirpiness. Important for us, personality-wise.

"When we talk about the tight games, the draws, those little moments in games, those fine margins, players of Lee’s ability, he changes those fine margins.

"We saw that in the Christmas period last year, when he was at his best. So having him back in the group, hopefully tomorrow and moving forward, will be a big plus for us."

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What’s his morale like?




NEIL HARRIS:


"He’s desperate to be playing!

"Like all players, it’s about when you are playing and involved in training every day, you are buzzing and lively.

"Then when you have a setback it is a frustration for you. It’s the same for all players, in that treatment room is not a good place to be.

"You look at the window at the players and you’re inside with the physio, it’s not a good period.

"Lee needs to be on the grass to enjoy his life, really, that’s not just got for him and also for the squad as well.

"Lee is at an age, the other side of 30 now, your days go quicker when you get to that stage, time goes quicker. He wants to be involved in every training session and every game."

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He's right. He's a game changer and a match winner. With him in the side we quite likely would have turned one or two of those draws into wins. I think with him and Wilson we could go on a run.

He's right. He's a game changer and a match winner. With him in the side we quite likely would have turned one or two of those draws into wins. I think with him and Wilson we could go on a run.

Jack, the problem is We cant rely on Tomlin, plays over all about 1 in 4 games, injury prone, attitude and over weight, but can be a class player and a game changer . Before this season started Harris and the fans we all know we cant rely on Tomlin week in week out.

Lee Tomlin is set to travel to QPR tomorrow. Neil Harris suggested he could be key to changing draws into wins, which we all know he's more than capable of. The limelight is off him a little this term, but he's definitely no less important

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He's right. He's a game changer and a match winner. With him in the side we quite likely would have turned one or two of those draws into wins. I think with him and Wilson we could go on a run.

Jack, the problem is We cant rely on Tomlin, plays over all about 1 in 4 games, injury prone, attitude and over weight, but can be a class player and a game changer . Before this season started Harris and the fans we all know we cant rely on Tomlin week in week out.

Annis, you're right but in all fairness his attitude and weight were not a problem last year, he completely transformed himself from what most of us thought was the end of his career. Injury prone yes defo, that's why we've got Wilson now but unfortunately with them both out we've got very little quality in the side.

He's right. He's a game changer and a match winner. With him in the side we quite likely would have turned one or two of those draws into wins. I think with him and Wilson we could go on a run.

Jack, the problem is We cant rely on Tomlin, plays over all about 1 in 4 games, injury prone, attitude and over weight, but can be a class player and a game changer . Before this season started Harris and the fans we all know we cant rely on Tomlin week in week out.

Annis, you're right but in all fairness his attitude and weight were not a problem last year, he completely transformed himself from what most of us thought was the end of his career. Injury prone yes defo, that's why we've got Wilson now but unfortunately with them both out we've got very little quality in the side.

Without Tomlin we wouldn't have been anywhere near top 6 last season. Take Tomlin , and now wilson, out the team and you remove all creativity from this squad, not just the starting 11. Which leaves us with 3 centre midfielders (playing at once) who are very similar. Pack, ralls,vaulks and bacuna are good at what they do, which is to run, hassle and disrupt the opposition. None are good enough to play in the no.10 position though as they don't make the runs or have the creativity or passing ability to open up a teams defence. Harris should have been brave enough to shift ojo into the centre against a very poor Derby team. Hopefully he does it tomorrow if Tomlin is out.

He's right. He's a game changer and a match winner. With him in the side we quite likely would have turned one or two of those draws into wins. I think with him and Wilson we could go on a run.

Jack, the problem is We cant rely on Tomlin, plays over all about 1 in 4 games, injury prone, attitude and over weight, but can be a class player and a game changer . Before this season started Harris and the fans we all know we cant rely on Tomlin week in week out.

Thats a bit unfair annis,as we dont know if he is currently overweight,and his attitude?? Yes he is injury prone,and we all knew he would likely miss games because of that,but my belief is harris risked him(whilst carrying an injury!)for the run in to play offs,and he has had little time to get over that injury,so should harris have played him in those games?? Yes we got into play offs,but at a cost to tomlin imho.we all as you say,knew he wouldnt be playong every game,as did the manager who bought him(warnock)yet it seems when he was fit,he still didnt play him!!

He's right. He's a game changer and a match winner. With him in the side we quite likely would have turned one or two of those draws into wins. I think with him and Wilson we could go on a run.

Jack, the problem is We cant rely on Tomlin, plays over all about 1 in 4 games, injury prone, attitude and over weight, but can be a class player and a game changer . Before this season started Harris and the fans we all know we cant rely on Tomlin week in week out.

Thats a bit unfair annis,as we dont know if he is currently overweight,and his attitude?? Yes he is injury prone,and we all knew he would likely miss games because of that,but my belief is harris risked him(whilst carrying an injury!)for the run in to play offs,and he has had little time to get over that injury,so should harris have played him in those games?? Yes we got into play offs,but at a cost to tomlin imho.we all as you say,knew he wouldnt be playong every game,as did the manager who bought him(warnock)yet it seems when he was fit,he still didnt play him!!

Paul,
I rate Lee Tomlin on his best days very highly.
But the facts are there, since Tomlin originally signed for us he has only played in about 1 in 4 games, do you think that’s good enough and that we can rely on him?

His attitude was originally the problem and that’s why clubs kept moving him out including us.

Tomlin also gets over weight very easily so by the time he gets fit and we see his best suddenly he is either injured or attitude comes out. The last sending off was very stupid by him and off the field plenty off problems.

So I don’t think I am unfair as for me over a whole season we can’t rely on him and when we desperately need quality players like Tomlin and a game changer which he is, he could be the difference in us doing well this season or failing as we rely on him so much.

We now have Harry Wilson, but imagine if we had both available for the majority of the season, we really would a team to contend with

He's right. He's a game changer and a match winner. With him in the side we quite likely would have turned one or two of those draws into wins. I think with him and Wilson we could go on a run.

Jack, the problem is We cant rely on Tomlin, plays over all about 1 in 4 games, injury prone, attitude and over weight, but can be a class player and a game changer . Before this season started Harris and the fans we all know we cant rely on Tomlin week in week out.

Thats a bit unfair annis,as we dont know if he is currently overweight,and his attitude?? Yes he is injury prone,and we all knew he would likely miss games because of that,but my belief is harris risked him(whilst carrying an injury!)for the run in to play offs,and he has had little time to get over that injury,so should harris have played him in those games?? Yes we got into play offs,but at a cost to tomlin imho.we all as you say,knew he wouldnt be playong every game,as did the manager who bought him(warnock)yet it seems when he was fit,he still didnt play him!!

Paul,
I rate Lee Tomlin on his best days very highly.
But the facts are there, since Tomlin originally signed for us he has only played in about 1 in 4 games, do you think that’s good enough and that we can rely on him?

His attitude was originally the problem and that’s why clubs kept moving him out including us.

Tomlin also gets over weight very easily so by the time he gets fit and we see his best suddenly he is either injured or attitude comes out. The last sending off was very stupid by him and off the field plenty off problems.

So I don’t think I am unfair as for me over a whole season we can’t rely on him and when we desperately need quality players like Tomlin and a game changer which he is, he could be the difference in us doing well this season or failing as we rely on him so much.

We now have Harry Wilson, but imagine if we had both available for the majority of the season, we really would a team to contend with

Ok fair enough,but when he came back,he showed some serious commitment to losing 2 stone,and was for him,probably as fit as he's ever been,attitude? O havent really dug into his past,so take your word on it.but we all knew this when warnock signed him,and were prepared to see what happened,I dont think he has ever been a player to rely on in all honesty,but I think this time,the injury he is suffering from,is the one he had towsrds tail end last season,he was brought back too early,in a bid to get play off berth,it sort of worked,but I think he is paying the price for it? And agree 100% him wilson and ojo could have the impact we all desire.now that would be nice.

He's right. He's a game changer and a match winner. With him in the side we quite likely would have turned one or two of those draws into wins. I think with him and Wilson we could go on a run.

Jack, the problem is We cant rely on Tomlin, plays over all about 1 in 4 games, injury prone, attitude and over weight, but can be a class player and a game changer . Before this season started Harris and the fans we all know we cant rely on Tomlin week in week out.

Thats a bit unfair annis,as we dont know if he is currently overweight,and his attitude?? Yes he is injury prone,and we all knew he would likely miss games because of that,but my belief is harris risked him(whilst carrying an injury!)for the run in to play offs,and he has had little time to get over that injury,so should harris have played him in those games?? Yes we got into play offs,but at a cost to tomlin imho.we all as you say,knew he wouldnt be playong every game,as did the manager who bought him(warnock)yet it seems when he was fit,he still didnt play him!!

Paul,
I rate Lee Tomlin on his best days very highly.
But the facts are there, since Tomlin originally signed for us he has only played in about 1 in 4 games, do you think that’s good enough and that we can rely on him?

His attitude was originally the problem and that’s why clubs kept moving him out including us.

Tomlin also gets over weight very easily so by the time he gets fit and we see his best suddenly he is either injured or attitude comes out. The last sending off was very stupid by him and off the field plenty off problems.

So I don’t think I am unfair as for me over a whole season we can’t rely on him and when we desperately need quality players like Tomlin and a game changer which he is, he could be the difference in us doing well this season or failing as we rely on him so much.

We now have Harry Wilson, but imagine if we had both available for the majority of the season, we really would a team to contend with

Ok fair enough,but when he came back,he showed some serious commitment to losing 2 stone,and was for him,probably as fit as he's ever been,attitude? O havent really dug into his past,so take your word on it.but we all knew this when warnock signed him,and were prepared to see what happened,I dont think he has ever been a player to rely on in all honesty,but I think this time,the injury he is suffering from,is the one he had towsrds tail end last season,he was brought back too early,in a bid to get play off berth,it sort of worked,but I think he is paying the price for it? And agree 100% him wilson and ojo could have the impact we all desire.now that would be nice.

Tbh 62er, if his fitness could always be relied on, had no past demons and he was a year or two younger he’d probably be in the EPL now. His demons seem to be behind him so let’s get what we can out of him that’s what I say

He's right. He's a game changer and a match winner. With him in the side we quite likely would have turned one or two of those draws into wins. I think with him and Wilson we could go on a run.

Jack, the problem is We cant rely on Tomlin, plays over all about 1 in 4 games, injury prone, attitude and over weight, but can be a class player and a game changer . Before this season started Harris and the fans we all know we cant rely on Tomlin week in week out.

Thats a bit unfair annis,as we dont know if he is currently overweight,and his attitude?? Yes he is injury prone,and we all knew he would likely miss games because of that,but my belief is harris risked him(whilst carrying an injury!)for the run in to play offs,and he has had little time to get over that injury,so should harris have played him in those games?? Yes we got into play offs,but at a cost to tomlin imho.we all as you say,knew he wouldnt be playong every game,as did the manager who bought him(warnock)yet it seems when he was fit,he still didnt play him!!

Paul,
I rate Lee Tomlin on his best days very highly.
But the facts are there, since Tomlin originally signed for us he has only played in about 1 in 4 games, do you think that’s good enough and that we can rely on him?

His attitude was originally the problem and that’s why clubs kept moving him out including us.

Tomlin also gets over weight very easily so by the time he gets fit and we see his best suddenly he is either injured or attitude comes out. The last sending off was very stupid by him and off the field plenty off problems.

So I don’t think I am unfair as for me over a whole season we can’t rely on him and when we desperately need quality players like Tomlin and a game changer which he is, he could be the difference in us doing well this season or failing as we rely on him so much.

We now have Harry Wilson, but imagine if we had both available for the majority of the season, we really would a team to contend with

Ok fair enough,but when he came back,he showed some serious commitment to losing 2 stone,and was for him,probably as fit as he's ever been,attitude? O havent really dug into his past,so take your word on it.but we all knew this when warnock signed him,and were prepared to see what happened,I dont think he has ever been a player to rely on in all honesty,but I think this time,the injury he is suffering from,is the one he had towsrds tail end last season,he was brought back too early,in a bid to get play off berth,it sort of worked,but I think he is paying the price for it? And agree 100% him wilson and ojo could have the impact we all desire.now that would be nice.

Tbh 62er, if his fitness could always be relied on, had no past demons and he was a year or two younger he’d probably be in the EPL now. His demons seem to be behind him so let’s get what we can out of him that’s what I say

Have agree 62r! He certainly has the ability,but at present its not a fitness issue,its he is injured,and i truly believe he made things(injury) worse,when brought back too early,a gamble that almost paid off,but has come at the expense of making injury worse,or at the least aggravating that injury.anyway lets hope he is back and on the pitch with wilson,then we really could click.

He's right. He's a game changer and a match winner. With him in the side we quite likely would have turned one or two of those draws into wins. I think with him and Wilson we could go on a run.

Jack, the problem is We cant rely on Tomlin, plays over all about 1 in 4 games, injury prone, attitude and over weight, but can be a class player and a game changer . Before this season started Harris and the fans we all know we cant rely on Tomlin week in week out.

Thats a bit unfair annis,as we dont know if he is currently overweight,and his attitude?? Yes he is injury prone,and we all knew he would likely miss games because of that,but my belief is harris risked him(whilst carrying an injury!)for the run in to play offs,and he has had little time to get over that injury,so should harris have played him in those games?? Yes we got into play offs,but at a cost to tomlin imho.we all as you say,knew he wouldnt be playong every game,as did the manager who bought him(warnock)yet it seems when he was fit,he still didnt play him!!

Paul,
I rate Lee Tomlin on his best days very highly.
But the facts are there, since Tomlin originally signed for us he has only played in about 1 in 4 games, do you think that’s good enough and that we can rely on him?

His attitude was originally the problem and that’s why clubs kept moving him out including us.

Tomlin also gets over weight very easily so by the time he gets fit and we see his best suddenly he is either injured or attitude comes out. The last sending off was very stupid by him and off the field plenty off problems.

So I don’t think I am unfair as for me over a whole season we can’t rely on him and when we desperately need quality players like Tomlin and a game changer which he is, he could be the difference in us doing well this season or failing as we rely on him so much.

We now have Harry Wilson, but imagine if we had both available for the majority of the season, we really would a team to contend with

Ok fair enough,but when he came back,he showed some serious commitment to losing 2 stone,and was for him,probably as fit as he's ever been,attitude? O havent really dug into his past,so take your word on it.but we all knew this when warnock signed him,and were prepared to see what happened,I dont think he has ever been a player to rely on in all honesty,but I think this time,the injury he is suffering from,is the one he had towsrds tail end last season,he was brought back too early,in a bid to get play off berth,it sort of worked,but I think he is paying the price for it? And agree 100% him wilson and ojo could have the impact we all desire.now that would be nice.

a professional athlete has shown serious commitment by actually being fit... ? personally i think thats the absolute minimum..
it was the start of the final year of a very lucrative contract for a player we had failed to even give away.... it really was now or never for him ... should NW have a stop the world LT has been on a Jane plan moment.. not for me, the commitment had to be seen to continue , it did and he was included.... where we are now ?.. Harris is the latest in a line of managers to gamble on his unquestionable ability out weighing risks and putting his trust in him by giving him a new contract.. only time will tell... hopefully we will get the best out of a boy who had the ability to be a premier league player which is why Howe signed him..

You missed where I said as fot as he's EVER been,we arent talking most players here,we are talking about a player who we took a gamble on,and if he had got us over the line and promoted would be a hero now.
Is(or has he ever been) a player to rely on? No,thats clear from his career to date.
I just believe this time he was rushed back for play off push,and is now paying the price. I hope he now stays fot and injury free,wont quite put my shirt on that mind,and if I am wrong I will have no problem admitting so in the future.but him wilson and ojo,could be awesome for us together.

Read fit for fot lol

It’s probably 1 in 4 overall. But he played most games once Harris worked him in the side and was only struggling from the last couple games of tbr season when we played him without being fully fit and he got injured again.

It’s probably 1 in 4 overall. But he played most games once Harris worked him in the side and was only struggling from the last couple games of tbr season when we played him without being fully fit and he got injured again.

Which is what ive been saying,he was rushed back,a fair gamble at the time,but has now paid the price,instead of having time to properly get treatment needed.

You missed where I said as fot as he's EVER been,we arent talking most players here,we are talking about a player who we took a gamble on,and if he had got us over the line and promoted would be a hero now.
Is(or has he ever been) a player to rely on? No,thats clear from his career to date.
I just believe this time he was rushed back for play off push,and is now paying the price. I hope he now stays fot and injury free,wont quite put my shirt on that mind,and if I am wrong I will have no problem admitting so in the future.but him wilson and ojo,could be awesome for us together.

im more than happy for him to rip the division a new one , which he undoubtedly can......but find it difficult to put much faith on that happening... its more crossed fingers than expectancy... hope he does for both him and ourselves..

He's right. He's a game changer and a match winner. With him in the side we quite likely would have turned one or two of those draws into wins. I think with him and Wilson we could go on a run.

Jack, the problem is We cant rely on Tomlin, plays over all about 1 in 4 games, injury prone, attitude and over weight, but can be a class player and a game changer . Before this season started Harris and the fans we all know we cant rely on Tomlin week in week out.

Thats a bit unfair annis,as we dont know if he is currently overweight,and his attitude?? Yes he is injury prone,and we all knew he would likely miss games because of that,but my belief is harris risked him(whilst carrying an injury!)for the run in to play offs,and he has had little time to get over that injury,so should harris have played him in those games?? Yes we got into play offs,but at a cost to tomlin imho.we all as you say,knew he wouldnt be playong every game,as did the manager who bought him(warnock)yet it seems when he was fit,he still didnt play him!!

Paul,
I rate Lee Tomlin on his best days very highly.
But the facts are there, since Tomlin originally signed for us he has only played in about 1 in 4 games, do you think that’s good enough and that we can rely on him?

His attitude was originally the problem and that’s why clubs kept moving him out including us.

Tomlin also gets over weight very easily so by the time he gets fit and we see his best suddenly he is either injured or attitude comes out. The last sending off was very stupid by him and off the field plenty off problems.

So I don’t think I am unfair as for me over a whole season we can’t rely on him and when we desperately need quality players like Tomlin and a game changer which he is, he could be the difference in us doing well this season or failing as we rely on him so much.

We now have Harry Wilson, but imagine if we had both available for the majority of the season, we really would a team to contend with

Ok fair enough,but when he came back,he showed some serious commitment to losing 2 stone,and was for him,probably as fit as he's ever been,attitude? O havent really dug into his past,so take your word on it.but we all knew this when warnock signed him,and were prepared to see what happened,I dont think he has ever been a player to rely on in all honesty,but I think this time,the injury he is suffering from,is the one he had towsrds tail end last season,he was brought back too early,in a bid to get play off berth,it sort of worked,but I think he is paying the price for it? And agree 100% him wilson and ojo could have the impact we all desire.now that would be nice.

Your right Paul, fair play to Tomlin he did lose 2 stone and came back I just hope he can stay focused and from here on now stay injury free

It’s probably 1 in 4 overall. But he played most games once Harris worked him in the side and was only struggling from the last couple games of tbr season when we played him without being fully fit and he got injured again.

was quite a bit more than I in 4 last season starting 24 out of the 48 lge and play off games... 5 out of 16 under NW and 19 out of 32 under NH..

Tomlin should be a sub as he is class when he comes on and done it loads of times and I would keep him especially for that as the defenders are getting slower and Tomlin comes on fresh and normally scores or sets up goals.

He gets tired when he starts still a class player but special when he comes off the bench

He's right. He's a game changer and a match winner. With him in the side we quite likely would have turned one or two of those draws into wins. I think with him and Wilson we could go on a run.

Jack, the problem is We cant rely on Tomlin, plays over all about 1 in 4 games, injury prone, attitude and over weight, but can be a class player and a game changer . Before this season started Harris and the fans we all know we cant rely on Tomlin week in week out.

Thats a bit unfair annis,as we dont know if he is currently overweight,and his attitude?? Yes he is injury prone,and we all knew he would likely miss games because of that,but my belief is harris risked him(whilst carrying an injury!)for the run in to play offs,and he has had little time to get over that injury,so should harris have played him in those games?? Yes we got into play offs,but at a cost to tomlin imho.we all as you say,knew he wouldnt be playong every game,as did the manager who bought him(warnock)yet it seems when he was fit,he still didnt play him!!

Paul,
I rate Lee Tomlin on his best days very highly.
But the facts are there, since Tomlin originally signed for us he has only played in about 1 in 4 games, do you think that’s good enough and that we can rely on him?

His attitude was originally the problem and that’s why clubs kept moving him out including us.

Tomlin also gets over weight very easily so by the time he gets fit and we see his best suddenly he is either injured or attitude comes out. The last sending off was very stupid by him and off the field plenty off problems.

So I don’t think I am unfair as for me over a whole season we can’t rely on him and when we desperately need quality players like Tomlin and a game changer which he is, he could be the difference in us doing well this season or failing as we rely on him so much.

We now have Harry Wilson, but imagine if we had both available for the majority of the season, we really would a team to contend with

Ok fair enough,but when he came back,he showed some serious commitment to losing 2 stone,and was for him,probably as fit as he's ever been,attitude? O havent really dug into his past,so take your word on it.but we all knew this when warnock signed him,and were prepared to see what happened,I dont think he has ever been a player to rely on in all honesty,but I think this time,the injury he is suffering from,is the one he had towsrds tail end last season,he was brought back too early,in a bid to get play off berth,it sort of worked,but I think he is paying the price for it? And agree 100% him wilson and ojo could have the impact we all desire.now that would be nice.

Your right Paul, fair play to Tomlin he did lose 2 stone and came back I just hope he can stay focused and from here on now stay injury free

Thats all we can wish for but injuries are rife in this new season for most clubs,no real time to rest a niggle,so play and risk longer period off with injury!! Its hard going for the team to have consistently fit 1st team players,to form some continuity ang gelling time.but with our additions and a fit tomlin,we could become dangerous opponents for most teams.

He's right. He's a game changer and a match winner. With him in the side we quite likely would have turned one or two of those draws into wins. I think with him and Wilson we could go on a run.

Jack, the problem is We cant rely on Tomlin, plays over all about 1 in 4 games, injury prone, attitude and over weight, but can be a class player and a game changer . Before this season started Harris and the fans we all know we cant rely on Tomlin week in week out.

Thats a bit unfair annis,as we dont know if he is currently overweight,and his attitude?? Yes he is injury prone,and we all knew he would likely miss games because of that,but my belief is harris risked him(whilst carrying an injury!)for the run in to play offs,and he has had little time to get over that injury,so should harris have played him in those games?? Yes we got into play offs,but at a cost to tomlin imho.we all as you say,knew he wouldnt be playong every game,as did the manager who bought him(warnock)yet it seems when he was fit,he still didnt play him!!

Paul,
I rate Lee Tomlin on his best days very highly.
But the facts are there, since Tomlin originally signed for us he has only played in about 1 in 4 games, do you think that’s good enough and that we can rely on him?

His attitude was originally the problem and that’s why clubs kept moving him out including us.

Tomlin also gets over weight very easily so by the time he gets fit and we see his best suddenly he is either injured or attitude comes out. The last sending off was very stupid by him and off the field plenty off problems.

So I don’t think I am unfair as for me over a whole season we can’t rely on him and when we desperately need quality players like Tomlin and a game changer which he is, he could be the difference in us doing well this season or failing as we rely on him so much.

We now have Harry Wilson, but imagine if we had both available for the majority of the season, we really would a team to contend with

Ok fair enough,but when he came back,he showed some serious commitment to losing 2 stone,and was for him,probably as fit as he's ever been,attitude? O havent really dug into his past,so take your word on it.but we all knew this when warnock signed him,and were prepared to see what happened,I dont think he has ever been a player to rely on in all honesty,but I think this time,the injury he is suffering from,is the one he had towsrds tail end last season,he was brought back too early,in a bid to get play off berth,it sort of worked,but I think he is paying the price for it? And agree 100% him wilson and ojo could have the impact we all desire.now that would be nice.

Your right Paul, fair play to Tomlin he did lose 2 stone and came back I just hope he can stay focused and from here on now stay injury free

Fair points Annis

Agreed(smiley face,as on mobile and cant find them.lol.