A tale of two lockdowns

Lockdown one.

Well obeyed, nice weather quite a lot of people enjoyed a month or two on furlough and could walk in the parks and get pissed in the sun. No real kickbacks against the government, the Welsh assembly only starting to get involved with local measures towards the end and extending it further.

Lockdown two.

Not be obeyed at all, horrendous weather rain and dark nights, the reality is setting in and the people on furlough are now back in work or have been let go as the employers could not sustain such a long time without trading. The Welsh assembly has found a bit of power and is enjoying making a name for themselves and getting interviewed on Andrew Marr.

Where is this going to end, it's a right mess, how many more lockdowns, and will anyone take any notice?

Lockdown one.

Well obeyed, nice weather quite a lot of people enjoyed a month or two on furlough and could walk in the parks and get pissed in the sun. No real kickbacks against the government, the Welsh assembly only starting to get involved with local measures towards the end and extending it further.

Lockdown two.

Not be obeyed at all, horrendous weather rain and dark nights, the reality is setting in and the people on furlough are now back in work or have been let go as the employers could not sustain such a long time without trading. The Welsh assembly has found a bit of power and is enjoying making a name for themselves and getting interviewed on Andrew Marr.

Where is this going to end, it's a right mess, how many more lockdowns, and will anyone take any notice?

lockdown one , a lot of people thought a virus could be beaten ...3 months and sorted... ..
its now clear to almost everyone that is not the case... and there is no plan from our politicians... they are obviously guessing because if there was a way to end it every country would be on the same page... what we have is every country in the world tinkering with restrictions..

There’s not supposed to be any lockdowns now... track and trace isn’t working . This is a failure by NHS Wales, and is Gething’s responsibility. They also just said on the news that WAG has no jurisdiction on competition.

We’re in good hands..

There’s not supposed to be any lockdowns now... track and trace isn’t working . This is a failure by NHS Wales, and is Gething’s responsibility. They also just said on the news that WAG has no jurisdiction on competition.

We’re in good hands..

I agree with you on WAG although the situation is even worse in England and Scotland so nether of those governments have done any better.

Personally I think the biggest mistake was not going into UK national lockdown 2 weeks before we did.

We had a two week start on the rest of Europe and didn't use it and, not only that, we also continued to allow international travel. All this at a time when the numbers of infections were low enough to control if Boris had understood the severity and listened to the medics/scientists.

Now I just think we have to observe the basics like wash your hands regularly and observing social distancing and just do our best to limit spread. None of the lockdowns seem to do much more than delay the inevitable.

There’s not supposed to be any lockdowns now... track and trace isn’t working . This is a failure by NHS Wales, and is Gething’s responsibility. They also just said on the news that WAG has no jurisdiction on competition.

We’re in good hands..

I agree with you on WAG although the situation is even worse in England and Scotland so nether of those governments have done any better.

Personally I think the biggest mistake was not going into UK national lockdown 2 weeks before we did.

We had a two week start on the rest of Europe and didn't use it and, not only that, we also continued to allow international travel. All this at a time when the numbers of infections were low enough to control if Boris had understood the severity and listened to the medics/scientists.

Now I just think we have to observe the basics like wash your hands regularly and observing social distancing and just do our best to limit spread. None of the lockdowns seem to do much more than delay the inevitable.

and there you have it....
worse in england and scotland and thats exactly Drakefords number 1 ,2,3 and 4 priority... only covid matters...
the lockdowns are doing a lot lot more than just delaying the inevitable... they are strangling our country both economically and regarding health....

There’s not supposed to be any lockdowns now... track and trace isn’t working . This is a failure by NHS Wales, and is Gething’s responsibility. They also just said on the news that WAG has no jurisdiction on competition.

We’re in good hands..

I agree with you on WAG although the situation is even worse in England and Scotland so nether of those governments have done any better.

Personally I think the biggest mistake was not going into UK national lockdown 2 weeks before we did.

We had a two week start on the rest of Europe and didn't use it and, not only that, we also continued to allow international travel. All this at a time when the numbers of infections were low enough to control if Boris had understood the severity and listened to the medics/scientists.

Now I just think we have to observe the basics like wash your hands regularly and observing social distancing and just do our best to limit spread. None of the lockdowns seem to do much more than delay the inevitable.

We had 2 week head start but now Europe is in worse state than us with 2nd wave ! Looks like hasn't made much difference what countries did still had 2nd wave

Gething’s incompetency is costing millions, and frankly he should be sacked. Way out of his depth and oblivious to it.

All eggs are in the basket for a vaccine sadly ,nothing any of the government can do to stop this virus ,we can't stop the flu and that has a vaccine time to get real 99% of people will survive this virus sadly some mostly over 70 year old will die, average death age of covid is 84 ,time to protect the people who nedd to be until a working vaccine is found

All eggs are in the basket for a vaccine sadly ,nothing any of the government can do to stop this virus ,we can't stop the flu and that has a vaccine time to get real 99% of people will survive this virus sadly some mostly over 70 year old will die, average death age of covid is 84 ,time to protect the people who nedd to be until a working vaccine is found

Wez best estimates for vaccine treatment is ready end of year and take best part of year to vaccinate majority of people... even if ready by dec they will be giving it out without knowing if 100% safe? That can take year or so.... gvmnts need to sort out best way to get life to some sort of normality whilst living with virus....

Never Ending

All eggs are in the basket for a vaccine sadly ,nothing any of the government can do to stop this virus ,we can't stop the flu and that has a vaccine time to get real 99% of people will survive this virus sadly some mostly over 70 year old will die, average death age of covid is 84 ,time to protect the people who nedd to be until a working vaccine is found

This sadly is the way to go,we have to,we simply cannot afford to go in and out of these "firebreaker" lockdowns,both financially, and more importantly health wise,especially mental health!! A couple of weeks back,my sister told me a DJ who lives around the corner from her,had committed suicide,then today she informs me his best buddy had also taken his life,saying he couldn't go on,without his"brother ",they had been finds for years,from the age of 5. sadly the longer this nonsense goes on,the higher the suicide rates will soar,

Depression in under 16's has risen by approx 200%,and let's not forget the undiagnosed, those waiting for treatment,life saving in some cases,the list of death "because" of covid,will far outweigh those who died"of" or "with" covid,no offence,but what we're the field hospitals supposed to do? Take the strain away from hospitals, so as they could continue with treatments and appointments for the"normal" illnesses and diseases! ! And why take them down, when since day one,they said winter would be worse with covid cases? Never mind it only cost £160m in wales to erect them,and not use them

All eggs are in the basket for a vaccine sadly ,nothing any of the government can do to stop this virus ,we can't stop the flu and that has a vaccine time to get real 99% of people will survive this virus sadly some mostly over 70 year old will die, average death age of covid is 84 ,time to protect the people who nedd to be until a working vaccine is found

not sure how much of this your coming across but its almost a daily event now for someone to tell me they are either closing up or seriously considering it... quite a few selling assets for less than they are worth in the hope they can cling on. but tbh i think many doing it have false hopes as even if the restrictions were lifted tomorrow things would not just bounce back...

Lockdown one.

Well obeyed, nice weather quite a lot of people enjoyed a month or two on furlough and could walk in the parks and get pissed in the sun. No real kickbacks against the government, the Welsh assembly only starting to get involved with local measures towards the end and extending it further.

Lockdown two.

Not be obeyed at all, horrendous weather rain and dark nights, the reality is setting in and the people on furlough are now back in work or have been let go as the employers could not sustain such a long time without trading. The Welsh assembly has found a bit of power and is enjoying making a name for themselves and getting interviewed on Andrew Marr.

Where is this going to end, it's a right mess, how many more lockdowns, and will anyone take any notice?

Not going to end; a brief respite for the (commercially sensitive) Xmas period and then Lockdown 3 in the early new year

It's coming and the authorities are being prepared...

Lockdown one.

Well obeyed, nice weather quite a lot of people enjoyed a month or two on furlough and could walk in the parks and get pissed in the sun. No real kickbacks against the government, the Welsh assembly only starting to get involved with local measures towards the end and extending it further.

Lockdown two.

Not be obeyed at all, horrendous weather rain and dark nights, the reality is setting in and the people on furlough are now back in work or have been let go as the employers could not sustain such a long time without trading. The Welsh assembly has found a bit of power and is enjoying making a name for themselves and getting interviewed on Andrew Marr.

Where is this going to end, it's a right mess, how many more lockdowns, and will anyone take any notice?

Not going to end; a brief respite for the (commercially sensitive) Xmas period and then Lockdown 3 in the early new year

It's coming and the authorities are being prepared...

yep rolling in and out of lockdowns seems to be the plan despite deaths for the last 3 months only being 9% of what they were for the 3 month lockdown period...{ march to june }

Lockdown one.

Well obeyed, nice weather quite a lot of people enjoyed a month or two on furlough and could walk in the parks and get pissed in the sun. No real kickbacks against the government, the Welsh assembly only starting to get involved with local measures towards the end and extending it further.

Lockdown two.

Not be obeyed at all, horrendous weather rain and dark nights, the reality is setting in and the people on furlough are now back in work or have been let go as the employers could not sustain such a long time without trading. The Welsh assembly has found a bit of power and is enjoying making a name for themselves and getting interviewed on Andrew Marr.

Where is this going to end, it's a right mess, how many more lockdowns, and will anyone take any notice?

Not going to end; a brief respite for the (commercially sensitive) Xmas period and then Lockdown 3 in the early new year

It's coming and the authorities are being prepared...

yep rolling in and out of lockdowns seems to be the plan despite deaths for the last 3 months only being 9% of what they were for the 3 month lockdown period...{ march to june }

Lockdown one.

Well obeyed, nice weather quite a lot of people enjoyed a month or two on furlough and could walk in the parks and get pissed in the sun. No real kickbacks against the government, the Welsh assembly only starting to get involved with local measures towards the end and extending it further.

Lockdown two.

Not be obeyed at all, horrendous weather rain and dark nights, the reality is setting in and the people on furlough are now back in work or have been let go as the employers could not sustain such a long time without trading. The Welsh assembly has found a bit of power and is enjoying making a name for themselves and getting interviewed on Andrew Marr.

Where is this going to end, it's a right mess, how many more lockdowns, and will anyone take any notice?

lockdown one , a lot of people thought a virus could be beaten ...3 months and sorted... ..
its now clear to almost everyone that is not the case... and there is no plan from our politicians... they are obviously guessing because if there was a way to end it every country would be on the same page... what we have is every country in the world tinkering with restrictions..

Yes there was certainly a lot more optimism

Lockdown one.

Well obeyed, nice weather quite a lot of people enjoyed a month or two on furlough and could walk in the parks and get pissed in the sun. No real kickbacks against the government, the Welsh assembly only starting to get involved with local measures towards the end and extending it further.

Lockdown two.

Not be obeyed at all, horrendous weather rain and dark nights, the reality is setting in and the people on furlough are now back in work or have been let go as the employers could not sustain such a long time without trading. The Welsh assembly has found a bit of power and is enjoying making a name for themselves and getting interviewed on Andrew Marr.

Where is this going to end, it's a right mess, how many more lockdowns, and will anyone take any notice?

Not going to end; a brief respite for the (commercially sensitive) Xmas period and then Lockdown 3 in the early new year

It's coming and the authorities are being prepared...

Not many people really want lockdown's but as it has already been said, we have to have some restrictions or the NHS will not cope, the English and Scottish tier/level systems are the way to go, don't lock everything down everywhere, but take tougher measures when we have too, unfortunately, it's the only way as they won't allow the NHS to collapse under the strain.

Vaccines are virtually ready, most predictions are that they will start being given to health workers Dec/Jan, once that happens there is some light at the end of the tunnel!

They will get the army doctors, pharmacists, St Johns ambulance, medically trained people, anyone capable of giving a vaccine to do it as quickly as possible, it will be done quicker than being predicted especially for people who need it, over 65 or serious conditions.

Then we can move back on to the next arguments pro vaccines vs anti-vaxxers

Lockdown one.

Well obeyed, nice weather quite a lot of people enjoyed a month or two on furlough and could walk in the parks and get pissed in the sun. No real kickbacks against the government, the Welsh assembly only starting to get involved with local measures towards the end and extending it further.

Lockdown two.

Not be obeyed at all, horrendous weather rain and dark nights, the reality is setting in and the people on furlough are now back in work or have been let go as the employers could not sustain such a long time without trading. The Welsh assembly has found a bit of power and is enjoying making a name for themselves and getting interviewed on Andrew Marr.

Where is this going to end, it's a right mess, how many more lockdowns, and will anyone take any notice?

Not going to end; a brief respite for the (commercially sensitive) Xmas period and then Lockdown 3 in the early new year

It's coming and the authorities are being prepared...

Not many people really want lockdown's but as it has already been said, we have to have some restrictions or the NHS will not cope, the English and Scottish tier/level systems are the way to go, don't lock everything down everywhere, but take tougher measures when we have too, unfortunately, it's the only way as they won't allow the NHS to collapse under the strain.

Vaccines are virtually ready, most predictions are that they will start being given to health workers Dec/Jan, once that happens there is some light at the end of the tunnel!

They will get the army doctors, pharmacists, St Johns ambulance, medically trained people, anyone capable of giving a vaccine to do it as quickly as possible, it will be done quicker than being predicted especially for people who need it, over 65 or serious conditions.

Then we can move back on to the next arguments pro vaccines vs anti-vaxxers

The trouble is with all this is that in Wales, because Cardiff is so dominant in terms of commerce, jobs, population, etc., it will never get out of lockdown !!

It's no coincidence that during lockdown Cardiff did as well as any decent sized city in the UK to keep the ingfection rate down. However, once lockdown was relaxed we had the 80K+ commuters coming into the city and then 42K students for Cardiff Uni and Cardiff Met alone, nevermind the usual retail traffic into the city. What did Drakeford and Gething think was going to happen ?

Meanwhile they concentrate their efforts on keeping the sparsely populate areas of Pembrokeshire, Ceredigion, etc. COVID free

It appears Wales in in this together ......................... unless you live in the capital city in which case you just have to "take one for the team"

Lockdown one.

Well obeyed, nice weather quite a lot of people enjoyed a month or two on furlough and could walk in the parks and get pissed in the sun. No real kickbacks against the government, the Welsh assembly only starting to get involved with local measures towards the end and extending it further.

Lockdown two.

Not be obeyed at all, horrendous weather rain and dark nights, the reality is setting in and the people on furlough are now back in work or have been let go as the employers could not sustain such a long time without trading. The Welsh assembly has found a bit of power and is enjoying making a name for themselves and getting interviewed on Andrew Marr.

Where is this going to end, it's a right mess, how many more lockdowns, and will anyone take any notice?

Not going to end; a brief respite for the (commercially sensitive) Xmas period and then Lockdown 3 in the early new year

It's coming and the authorities are being prepared...

Not many people really want lockdown's but as it has already been said, we have to have some restrictions or the NHS will not cope, the English and Scottish tier/level systems are the way to go, don't lock everything down everywhere, but take tougher measures when we have too, unfortunately, it's the only way as they won't allow the NHS to collapse under the strain.

Vaccines are virtually ready, most predictions are that they will start being given to health workers Dec/Jan, once that happens there is some light at the end of the tunnel!

They will get the army doctors, pharmacists, St Johns ambulance, medically trained people, anyone capable of giving a vaccine to do it as quickly as possible, it will be done quicker than being predicted especially for people who need it, over 65 or serious conditions.

Then we can move back on to the next arguments pro vaccines vs anti-vaxxers

i dont see a pro and anti argument as such....arguments will be about vacine passports or it being compulsory.... i have no issue with anyone sticking whatever they choose into their bodies..but have an issue with being told i have to..

I see..you also had a pea pushed up ya bugle by your brother..

Lockdown one.

Well obeyed, nice weather quite a lot of people enjoyed a month or two on furlough and could walk in the parks and get pissed in the sun. No real kickbacks against the government, the Welsh assembly only starting to get involved with local measures towards the end and extending it further.

Lockdown two.

Not be obeyed at all, horrendous weather rain and dark nights, the reality is setting in and the people on furlough are now back in work or have been let go as the employers could not sustain such a long time without trading. The Welsh assembly has found a bit of power and is enjoying making a name for themselves and getting interviewed on Andrew Marr.

Where is this going to end, it's a right mess, how many more lockdowns, and will anyone take any notice?

Not going to end; a brief respite for the (commercially sensitive) Xmas period and then Lockdown 3 in the early new year

It's coming and the authorities are being prepared...

Not many people really want lockdown's but as it has already been said, we have to have some restrictions or the NHS will not cope, the English and Scottish tier/level systems are the way to go, don't lock everything down everywhere, but take tougher measures when we have too, unfortunately, it's the only way as they won't allow the NHS to collapse under the strain.

Vaccines are virtually ready, most predictions are that they will start being given to health workers Dec/Jan, once that happens there is some light at the end of the tunnel!

They will get the army doctors, pharmacists, St Johns ambulance, medically trained people, anyone capable of giving a vaccine to do it as quickly as possible, it will be done quicker than being predicted especially for people who need it, over 65 or serious conditions.

Then we can move back on to the next arguments pro vaccines vs anti-vaxxers

i dont see a pro and anti argument as such....arguments will be about vacine passports or it being compulsory.... i have no issue with anyone sticking whatever they choose into their bodies..but have an issue with being told i have to..

That's fair enough, especially under the circumstances previously mentioned

Hopefully, enough people will want to have the vaccine to make it effective, although it won't really bother me as me and the family will hopefully be able to crack on with normality anyway after having the vaccines.

They probably will bring in some sort of vaccine travel passport to allow people to fly again with the knowledge that everyone on the flight has taken some measures and are less likely to be infected?