Is Kieffer Moore good enough?

Genuine question.

I cannot see this guy scoring more than 12 this season and whilst I was surprised by his role in the goal on Sunday (actually running with the ball) he just appears too clumsy in the final third and lacks ability to link up with others. His touch leaves a lot to be desired and his heading ability (in an attacking sense) for such a big guy is not great.

I wasn't excited when we signed him and with the likes of Harry Wilson and Tomlin we need someone who can run in behind and be available for the excellent through balls they can offer but can you really see Moore making that run?

Hes easily good enough he sets goals up too and we have an outlet to relieve pressure

Hes easily good enough he sets goals up too and we have an outlet to relieve pressure

Spot on, lots more to come from Moore....

Hes easily good enough he sets goals up too and we have an outlet to relieve pressure

OP first post as well....

Hes easily good enough he sets goals up too and we have an outlet to relieve pressure

OP first post as well....

Yes and he is either in Treherbert or in Hove strange

so because its my first post I cant ask a genuine question?

Maybe I should have started a political thread instead?

I guess because he's loosely Welsh he will get far less stick than any other striker who we may have signed but I remain unconvinced that he will be the answer to our long standing striker issues.

so because its my first post I cant ask a genuine question?

Maybe I should have started a political thread instead?

I guess because he's loosely Welsh he will get far less stick than any other striker who we may have signed but I remain unconvinced that he will be the answer to our long standing striker issues.

You dressed it up as a question by using the ? but in reality it was a statement.

When a poster makes a statement or even asks a question they have to accept that their view might not be the same as everyone else. Of course if they are proved right in the future then they are free to make a thread entitled "I told you so"

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No-one can know yet.. it takes time for players to gel and settle at a new club. I think if he gets 12-15 it’s a good return considering defenders are generally better quality these days..

He’s the best striker we’ve had since Boothroyd and surprisingly good on the floor!

And he's far far better than Glatzel.

Genuine question.

I cannot see this guy scoring more than 12 this season and whilst I was surprised by his role in the goal on Sunday (actually running with the ball) he just appears too clumsy in the final third and lacks ability to link up with others. His touch leaves a lot to be desired and his heading ability (in an attacking sense) for such a big guy is not great.

I wasn't excited when we signed him and with the likes of Harry Wilson and Tomlin we need someone who can run in behind and be available for the excellent through balls they can offer but can you really see Moore making that run?

Is Kieffer Moore good enough?
I think the answer may be in your quote. You were surprised at his ability.

And he's far far better than Glatzel.

Far better than glatzel? All opinions of course,but he scored 2 more goals last season,in a league he is familiar with,whereas glatzel was,And probably is to an extent getting familiar with a whole different way of playing!I wont slag our players off,including moore,but i was hardly as exited as some on here at him signing tbf,but have noticed posters bemoaning the service to him(no different for any of our strikers,glatzel included!!

And he's far far better than Glatzel.

Far better than glatzel? All opinions of course,but he scored 2 more goals last season,in a league he is familiar with,whereas glatzel was,And probably is to an extent getting familiar with a whole different way of playing!I wont slag our players off,including moore,but i was hardly as exited as some on here at him signing tbf,but have noticed posters bemoaning the service to him(no different for any of our strikers,glatzel included!!

Its always about the service to any forward and in that respect city have failed all our forwards over past 4yrs or so ...its no wonder they dont thrive or do well when get almost zero service! Moore will offer a bit more than glatzel but only if gets the ball in right areas for him? The one thing like to see Moore not do and that is play out wide which he does far to much at moment.

I used to think "roathy" was a made up poster created to stir up things when times were quite. Same as one of the supposed Leeds guys.

I realised he is not, I don't think anyone on here cares that much to go into multiple usernames

Been quite lately......

Peter Crouch looked extremely clumsy on the ball too.... Moore will come good, especially now Wilson is here, will also benefit Wales having Vaulks, Wilson and Moore playing/training together

he isnt for me, he did do very well for the goal though, but lost the ball in the air far more than he should for someone of his size.

Personally id rather see Glatzel in there, but we should give him and the team a bit more time.

Asked the same question to myself and jury is still out for me However i think until we create more chances for him it is hard to judge We have yet to give him much chance in open play The question is are the rest of the side good enough to create the chances
i say that even though we were in the top six goal scorers last season

It is stretching things to make out that Kiefer is Welsh. He was born and brought up in the West Country to two English parents and only qualifies for Wales because he had a Welsh grandmother. It will do for him playing for Wales but he is hardly a son of the valley's.

Is he good enough probably yes. He had an indifferent early career. But seems to have improved massively since joining Barnsley three seasons ago where he was a very good scorer though mainly at league one level. He was also quite good for Wigan. I don't think he will be quite the goal machine some might be expecting but he will score his fair share and just as importantly make goals for others paticularly for Wilson this season. Hopefully Glatzel will prove an adequate replacement if he is injured.

I used to think "roathy" was a made up poster created to stir up things when times were quite. Same as one of the supposed Leeds guys.

I realised he is not, I don't think anyone on here cares that much to go into multiple usernames

Been quite lately......

Hes very selective chooses subjects he can appear intelligent with and of course always be proved right even when hes wrong..... but do get impression that there are some who actually respond to themselves using different names on here... but hey ho takes all sorts to make world go round!

I used to think "roathy" was a made up poster created to stir up things when times were quite. Same as one of the supposed Leeds guys.

I realised he is not, I don't think anyone on here cares that much to go into multiple usernames

Been quite lately......

I think the OP is Roathie,his style all over but now he's a pretend Cardiff fan.Says anything that he feels gets a slanging match going.That Leeds fella is a definite multi.

TRUE BARRY BLUE
To be fair moore has not had the service to bring out the best of him yet
i think he' s put more crosses in the box himself rather than receiving them thats why i am hoping we start using murphy to whip in crosses holliet no longer seems to pass the defender instead he cuts in and does not deliver what moore requires which is a ball in the air.

A mate of mine who's a Yeovil supporter cannot believe Kieffer is the same player who played for them, such has been his transformation over the last few years.

Personally I think he will only get better and barring injuries I will be very surprised if he doesn't hit at least 12 goals this season and hopefully more.

A lot will depend on whether he gets the right support and creativity from out wide and midfield but the same would apply for any lone striker. I get the impression though that he's got a cool head on his shoulders and is unlikely to go into his shell if things are not going right for him.
No pressure then Keiffer !

Have you actually seen him play? For wales or us?

Gonna make a lot of money when he moves on after the Euros.

And he's far far better than Glatzel.

yes he is... how good only time will tell but he certainly good enough for this level which the german isnt...

All opinions I guess,but we will see in time,would be nice if his name was used,instead of ,"the german"!he is a cardiff city player after all!For me the jury was out on us buying him,as he has hardly been prolific! His record is similar to glatzel,both did ok,but at a lower level.I hope both strikers get the service,because its not fair to say he doesnt get the service,when that has been our biggest issue for ALL our strikers.

The best striker we have signed since Frazier Campbell

When this side settles down he will score 15+ goals

All opinions I guess,but we will see in time,would be nice if his name was used,instead of ,"the german"!he is a cardiff city player after all!For me the jury was out on us buying him,as he has hardly been prolific! His record is similar to glatzel,both did ok,but at a lower level.I hope both strikers get the service,because its not fair to say he doesnt get the service,when that has been our biggest issue for ALL our strikers.

i dont think anyone including Harris expects prolific... he was brought in to be a target man first and foremost..

All opinions I guess,but we will see in time,would be nice if his name was used,instead of ,"the german"!he is a cardiff city player after all!For me the jury was out on us buying him,as he has hardly been prolific! His record is similar to glatzel,both did ok,but at a lower level.I hope both strikers get the service,because its not fair to say he doesnt get the service,when that has been our biggest issue for ALL our strikers.

i dont think anyone including Harris expects prolific... he was brought in to be a target man first and foremost..

Agreed,target man is correct,but in Glatzel's defence,he was never used as a target man,until he came here,they don't play that style,even in the German 2nd division (the equivalent of the championship,although not as tough!) The level at which both did ok,time will tell if Moore can replicate it for us,the same for Glatzel.

Im afraid last night did nothing to relieve my concerns of Moore.

He was not an improvement on Glatzel when he came on. In fact the ball seemed to stick more with Glatzel on the pitch whereas Moore had one excellent touch then the ball just bounced off him in all directions whenever it was laid up to him.
His heading was terrible and always back to the opposition in the direction it had come from.

Disappointing as we have improved so many areas of the pitch and can play a lot more now but despite some really good balls and ideas by our better players - they are let down massively by the forward play.

Imagine what we could do with a decent striker.