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Do you think modern day parenting lacks something

Sun Oct 11, 2020 7:28 am

How do you compare it to when you was growing up. Have we raised a breed of snowflakes and social warriors .

What was it like growing up in pit mining communities. Character building perhaps.
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Re: Do you think modern day parenting lacks something

Sun Oct 11, 2020 8:14 am

blue lagoon wrote:How do you compare it to when you was growing up. Have we raised a breed of snowflakes and social warriors .

What was it like growing up in pit mining communities. Character building perhaps.


the millenials do seem to have been mollycoddled and have no sense of reality of real world which is why they think everything is unfair if they get a setback its a very all about self way of being which i think explains a lot on the mental strength issues they seem to have and also if not happy just change something about yourself , The eduation system definately has mad this much worse where no one can be a loser anymore. Things like not happy being a boy well we can make you a girl and all lifes problems will go away your just a victim of an unjust system nothing is your fault.
sorry to be so harsh but we do seem to have a mania of victimhood.

Re: Do you think modern day parenting lacks something

Sun Oct 11, 2020 8:37 am

Unfortunately you will never solve the problems of bad parenting,I can never understand if you can't feed or home yourself what chance of you got bringing up a child properly, people expect others to bring there kids up for them ,just like they expect schools to do the parents job ,a teacher once said to me you should have to have a license to have kids .

Re: Do you think modern day parenting lacks something

Sun Oct 11, 2020 10:22 am

ion wrote:Unfortunately you will never solve the problems of bad parenting,I can never understand if you can't feed or home yourself what chance of you got bringing up a child properly, people expect others to bring there kids up for them ,just like they expect schools to do the parents job ,a teacher once said to me you should have to have a license to have kids .


all generations think the next lot are the worst my two daughters are way stricter with their children than i ever was,

they are good mothers and sensible human beings they dont believe in all the new age nonsense of asking your brat what it

wants. Children need direction and discipline its the best love you can give.

thank god for women with common sense.

my mother still hits me if i can get out of line.

Re: Do you think modern day parenting lacks something

Sun Oct 11, 2020 5:57 pm

robjohn wrote:
ion wrote:Unfortunately you will never solve the problems of bad parenting,I can never understand if you can't feed or home yourself what chance of you got bringing up a child properly, people expect others to bring there kids up for them ,just like they expect schools to do the parents job ,a teacher once said to me you should have to have a license to have kids .


all generations think the next lot are the worst my two daughters are way stricter with their children than i ever was,

they are good mothers and sensible human beings they dont believe in all the new age nonsense of asking your brat what it

wants. Children need direction and discipline its the best love you can give.

thank god for women with common sense.

my mother still hits me if i can get out of line.



So violence towards children is the way forward you think?
I believe the world is in this state because of parents using violence towards they kids. And now everyone surprised at the violence on the street. And everyone says it “didn’t do me any harm” if only it was that simple.

Re: Do you think modern day parenting lacks something

Sun Oct 11, 2020 8:07 pm

Bigmarkw wrote:
robjohn wrote:
ion wrote:Unfortunately you will never solve the problems of bad parenting,I can never understand if you can't feed or home yourself what chance of you got bringing up a child properly, people expect others to bring there kids up for them ,just like they expect schools to do the parents job ,a teacher once said to me you should have to have a license to have kids .


all generations think the next lot are the worst my two daughters are way stricter with their children than i ever was,

they are good mothers and sensible human beings they dont believe in all the new age nonsense of asking your brat what it

wants. Children need direction and discipline its the best love you can give.

thank god for women with common sense.

my mother still hits me if i can get out of line.



So violence towards children is the way forward you think?
I believe the world is in this state because of parents using violence towards they kids. And now everyone surprised at the violence on the street. And everyone says it “didn’t do me any harm” if only it was that simple.

Its more nuanced than that. Children need boundaries to be set. That doesn't necessarily mean violence. A good parent knows how to use the very minimum of force to ensure a child doesn't move beyond acceptable boundaries while still allowing them to walk up to the line. A well timed flick of the finger can be enough to fire a warning shot to say 'hey kiddo, time to back down' if you are consistent in the values you teach them, that can be enough.

Teaching your kids how to be well liked by others in society is the most fundamental role of a parent as far as I am concerned. Traditional manners, how to share, how to stand up for themselves, without being a bully, understanding the value of respect, hard work and honesty.

Treating your kid like they are the most important person in the world and giving them everything they want is not good for them (even though it is the most natural feeling for every parent).

The problems we see are more likely related to encouraging an entire generation to be narcissistic and totally entitled than a generation of parents hitting kids. That doesn't mean excessive force with children is either good or acceptable it is not.

But that is not the issue that has resulted in mass rioting in my opinion. It is a generation that has never been told no and is used to getting its own way when it has a tantrum.

Just my opinion though.

Re: Do you think modern day parenting lacks something

Sun Oct 11, 2020 8:13 pm

There's a balance to be had between then and now, as both eras have/had elements that were OTT

Not being able to admonish a child (thanks to WAG) could have a detrimental affect on discipline; but equally, giving your daughter 'the belt' before school "in case" she's naughty that day (as happened to one in my Junior School class) is about as sick and barbaric as it goes :evil:

Re: Do you think modern day parenting lacks something

Sun Oct 11, 2020 9:52 pm

Clip round the ear did the trick.. but more problems now with the shit kids are eating and obesity.

Re: Do you think modern day parenting lacks something

Mon Oct 12, 2020 12:01 pm

Bigmarkw wrote:
robjohn wrote:
ion wrote:Unfortunately you will never solve the problems of bad parenting,I can never understand if you can't feed or home yourself what chance of you got bringing up a child properly, people expect others to bring there kids up for them ,just like they expect schools to do the parents job ,a teacher once said to me you should have to have a license to have kids .


all generations think the next lot are the worst my two daughters are way stricter with their children than i ever was,

they are good mothers and sensible human beings they dont believe in all the new age nonsense of asking your brat what it

wants. Children need direction and discipline its the best love you can give.

thank god for women with common sense.

my mother still hits me if i can get out of line.



So violence towards children is the way forward you think?
I believe the world is in this state because of parents using violence towards they kids. And now everyone surprised at the violence on the street. And everyone says it “didn’t do me any harm” if only it was that simple.


People who carry out violent attacks were always the bullies in school, they did need a slap and didnt get one.
so nothing has consequences for them parents never disciplined them. Being too soft is the cause of the spoilt brat rioting generation.

Re: Do you think modern day parenting lacks something

Tue Oct 13, 2020 7:53 am

robjohn wrote:
Bigmarkw wrote:
robjohn wrote:
ion wrote:Unfortunately you will never solve the problems of bad parenting,I can never understand if you can't feed or home yourself what chance of you got bringing up a child properly, people expect others to bring there kids up for them ,just like they expect schools to do the parents job ,a teacher once said to me you should have to have a license to have kids .


all generations think the next lot are the worst my two daughters are way stricter with their children than i ever was,

they are good mothers and sensible human beings they dont believe in all the new age nonsense of asking your brat what it

wants. Children need direction and discipline its the best love you can give.

thank god for women with common sense.

my mother still hits me if i can get out of line.



So violence towards children is the way forward you think?
I believe the world is in this state because of parents using violence towards they kids. And now everyone surprised at the violence on the street. And everyone says it “didn’t do me any harm” if only it was that simple.


People who carry out violent attacks were always the bullies in school, they did need a slap and didnt get one.
so nothing has consequences for them parents never disciplined them. Being too soft is the cause of the spoilt brat rioting generation.


Not always buddy. I’m living proof that’s not the case. Strict parents not shy about a snack for every little thing resulting in me resorting to unnecessary violence. Went to counselling violence was a learnt behaviour for me and difficult to break, became conditioned that bad behaviour/something others disagree with gets sorted with violence.

I’m one the lucky ones who are open to self improvement I so far managed to escape the vicious circle.

Re: Do you think modern day parenting lacks something

Thu Oct 15, 2020 11:25 am

“The children now love luxury; they have bad manners, contempt for authority; they show disrespect for elders and love chatter in place of exercise“

-Socrates, circa 430BC

Modern parenting has been lacking for nearly 2500 years it would seem.

Re: Do you think modern day parenting lacks something

Thu Oct 15, 2020 4:35 pm

WestCoastBlue wrote:“The children now love luxury; they have bad manners, contempt for authority; they show disrespect for elders and love chatter in place of exercise“

-Socrates, circa 430BC

Modern parenting has been lacking for nearly 2500 years it would seem.


I agree i only wish they had contemp for authority , its seems they now love teachers i had a mixture of both admiration and credulity, to annoy your parents is a good thing. To think their life is somehow special and feelings must be protected is self delusion and the cult of self.

Re: Do you think modern day parenting lacks something

Thu Oct 15, 2020 4:46 pm

Not sure if parenting is to blame although "I blame the parents" is my favourite saying, more like societies fault with the everyone gets a prize or trophy mentality which really doesn't help when they get into the outside world.

I've seen good & bad parenting in my time and that's probably how it's always been.

Re: Do you think modern day parenting lacks something

Thu Oct 15, 2020 5:13 pm

robjohn wrote:
WestCoastBlue wrote:“The children now love luxury; they have bad manners, contempt for authority; they show disrespect for elders and love chatter in place of exercise“

-Socrates, circa 430BC

Modern parenting has been lacking for nearly 2500 years it would seem.


I agree i only wish they had contemp for authority , its seems they now love teachers i had a mixture of both admiration and credulity, to annoy your parents is a good thing. To think their life is somehow special and feelings must be protected is self delusion and the cult of self.


I'm not quite clear on what you're saying, You want them to dislike authority and rebel against it?

Crime rates for the under 18's have plummeted in the last 2 decades whereas the total crime rates across all ages in the UK have risen.
Surely that should be seen as a sign of a successful generation if they've not only avoided matching the increase of other generations but have actually managed to decrease their numbers?

And why should they not like their teachers? Doesn't that show they resect the people and schools that are preparing them for their future lives?
Respect goes both ways, I know when I was in school I was much happier and much better at learning from the teachers who treated me like a teenager and not a child. The teachers who demanded respect with no reciprocation only made me dislike them and harmed my studies with them.
I had a games teacher who would make you run laps as punishments for any minor offence, whether it was raining or the track was iced over it didn't matter, sometimes he would punish the whole class for one kid doing wrong. I didn't respect him, I despised him as a bully enjoying his power. In the end many of us would either skip class or intentionally rebel and piss him off to spite him. Respect is earned and the best teachers got my gratitude and respect for being fair and respectful back.