Sat Sep 26, 2020 7:29 pm
Sat Sep 26, 2020 10:06 pm
Pencoed wrote:The virus is mainly gone to effect those over 80 those who fort, lived through the Second World War and the after effects. Those who were separated from loved ones for indefinitely with pen an paper as contact because they were at war or evacuated.
They got on with it.
Mental health is a serious problem. Feeling a bit down or been worried about your job is not a mental health issue
Sat Sep 26, 2020 10:37 pm
Sat Sep 26, 2020 11:29 pm
Pencoed wrote:The virus is mainly gone to effect those over 80 those who fort, lived through the Second World War and the after effects. Those who were separated from loved ones for indefinitely with pen an paper as contact because they were at war or evacuated.
They got on with it.
Mental health is a serious problem. Feeling a bit down or been worried about your job is not a mental health issue
Sun Sep 27, 2020 1:32 am
Sun Sep 27, 2020 2:43 am
boyo1927 wrote:Pencoed you clearly have very little understanding of what is mental health and what is mental illness.
Losing a job in a pandemic to most people I imagine is not nice
Sun Sep 27, 2020 7:03 am
Sun Sep 27, 2020 10:57 am
Sun Sep 27, 2020 10:58 am
WestCoastBlue wrote:What a load of nonsense. The generation that "got on with it" had much higher suicide rates during the 50's and 60's than we have now.
For women between 1950 - 1970 the average female suicide rate was 12 per 100k and for men it was for men it was 19 per 100k, compared to these days (2010 - 2020) where for women the average is less than 5 per 100k and for men it's around 15.
The "Blitz spirit" that constantly gets tossed out there like some patriotic rallying cry is rubbish. If you look into some less rosy tinted accounts from the Blitz it would be a period of shame and disgust, not honour and pride.
Mental health is a major issue for all ages whether it's PTSD from warfare, rationing and separation from family, job losses or fear of homelessness. People in their 20's and early 30's have gone through 2 "once in a lifetime" economic disasters in the last 12 years in a crucial period of their lives where many of them would've been trying to secure their employment for the next few decades.
I'm in my 20's and I've given up most hope of ever owning my own home, I'm living with the assumption I'll be working more than one job for several years and raising children with a partner also seems unlikely. Luckily I'm quite an optimistic person so I'm not "a bit down" about it all but I know people in my age group who have killed themselves, cut themselves, turned to drink and drugs because for them living or living sober is too much for them.
Mental health issues can absolutely stem from job losses, many smaller things can trigger it too. Unfortunately the systems in our country to deal with such issues are laughably poor and are constantly being ignored.
Sun Sep 27, 2020 11:17 am
Nuclearblue wrote:WestCoastBlue wrote:What a load of nonsense. The generation that "got on with it" had much higher suicide rates during the 50's and 60's than we have now.
For women between 1950 - 1970 the average female suicide rate was 12 per 100k and for men it was for men it was 19 per 100k, compared to these days (2010 - 2020) where for women the average is less than 5 per 100k and for men it's around 15.
The "Blitz spirit" that constantly gets tossed out there like some patriotic rallying cry is rubbish. If you look into some less rosy tinted accounts from the Blitz it would be a period of shame and disgust, not honour and pride.
Mental health is a major issue for all ages whether it's PTSD from warfare, rationing and separation from family, job losses or fear of homelessness. People in their 20's and early 30's have gone through 2 "once in a lifetime" economic disasters in the last 12 years in a crucial period of their lives where many of them would've been trying to secure their employment for the next few decades.
I'm in my 20's and I've given up most hope of ever owning my own home, I'm living with the assumption I'll be working more than one job for several years and raising children with a partner also seems unlikely. Luckily I'm quite an optimistic person so I'm not "a bit down" about it all but I know people in my age group who have killed themselves, cut themselves, turned to drink and drugs because for them living or living sober is too much for them.
Mental health issues can absolutely stem from job losses, many smaller things can trigger it too. Unfortunately the systems in our country to deal with such issues are laughably poor and are constantly being ignored.
To be honest that is lower than I thought from the fifties to the seventies. After World War Two I would of 5hought those with PTSD was massive, and I would gather many took their lives because of the war. Also it may not be just soldiers but Firemen as well on what they saw during the bombings and the public as well. Not many would of gone unaffected. Many who lost family and friends as well. So I’m surprised it’s that low.
Sun Sep 27, 2020 11:33 am
RV Casual wrote:I am sure your a decent person but this is a terrible post that I think/hope you will regret.
Personaly speaking I know of only 3 people who have had Covid 19 and none of them died.
I have lost a mate to Suicide during the Pandemic, a very good friend of mine lost her Nan (and whilst she died of natural courses) the family believe she just gave up as she was in the care home and her mental health deteriorated rapidly when she had no personal interaction.
I am also currently seriously worried about 3 friends, one didn't work from March untill last Month as Gyms were closed and is constantly worried that they will be shut down again. He is absolutely fried for want of a better word. Another one of my mates has work up untill the end of this month at which point they may well be let go, even more so if the hospitality sector goes. And another one of my mates who lives alone cannot deal with the loneliness.
If your life is good, that is wonderful and long may it continue but just because things are rosey for you right now NEVER underestimate how quickly things can change or have the attitude you have as it makes you look like a complete prick.
Sun Sep 27, 2020 12:24 pm
Pencoed wrote:The virus is mainly gone to effect those over 80 those who fort, lived through the Second World War and the after effects. Those who were separated from loved ones for indefinitely with pen an paper as contact because they were at war or evacuated.
They got on with it.
Mental health is a serious problem. Feeling a bit down or been worried about your job is not a mental health issue
Sun Sep 27, 2020 12:26 pm
skidemin wrote:RV Casual wrote:I am sure your a decent person but this is a terrible post that I think/hope you will regret.
Personaly speaking I know of only 3 people who have had Covid 19 and none of them died.
I have lost a mate to Suicide during the Pandemic, a very good friend of mine lost her Nan (and whilst she died of natural courses) the family believe she just gave up as she was in the care home and her mental health deteriorated rapidly when she had no personal interaction.
I am also currently seriously worried about 3 friends, one didn't work from March untill last Month as Gyms were closed and is constantly worried that they will be shut down again. He is absolutely fried for want of a better word. Another one of my mates has work up untill the end of this month at which point they may well be let go, even more so if the hospitality sector goes. And another one of my mates who lives alone cannot deal with the loneliness.
If your life is good, that is wonderful and long may it continue but just because things are rosey for you right now NEVER underestimate how quickly things can change or have the attitude you have as it makes you look like a complete prick.
been banging this drum from day 1 , ive lost 2 people ive been friendly with over this too, one suicide who saw no future for a business he had spent 30 years building which just ground to a halt, slowly started up again , only for the new restrictions and threat of it being 6 months to very much finish it off.. the other of a heart attack who had chest pains but was more scared of the hospital than his impending death. literally scared to death... i know of a number of covid deaths through friends none of whom thought the dead relative had long anyway ..i know its killing younger pple but seriously not many... .
the tag early on was health v wealth ...yes truer words have never been spoken... those financially secure v those desperate to live and have a life.
Sun Sep 27, 2020 12:53 pm
WestCoastBlue wrote:What a load of nonsense. The generation that "got on with it" had much higher suicide rates during the 50's and 60's than we have now.
For women between 1950 - 1970 the average female suicide rate was 12 per 100k and for men it was for men it was 19 per 100k, compared to these days (2010 - 2020) where for women the average is less than 5 per 100k and for men it's around 15.
The "Blitz spirit" that constantly gets tossed out there like some patriotic rallying cry is rubbish. If you look into some less rosy tinted accounts from the Blitz it would be a period of shame and disgust, not honour and pride.
Mental health is a major issue for all ages whether it's PTSD from warfare, rationing and separation from family, job losses or fear of homelessness. People in their 20's and early 30's have gone through 2 "once in a lifetime" economic disasters in the last 12 years in a crucial period of their lives where many of them would've been trying to secure their employment for the next few decades.
I'm in my 20's and I've given up most hope of ever owning my own home, I'm living with the assumption I'll be working more than one job for several years and raising children with a partner also seems unlikely. Luckily I'm quite an optimistic person so I'm not "a bit down" about it all but I know people in my age group who have killed themselves, cut themselves, turned to drink and drugs because for them living or living sober is too much for them.
Mental health issues can absolutely stem from job losses, many smaller things can trigger it too. Unfortunately the systems in our country to deal with such issues are laughably poor and are constantly being ignored.
Sun Sep 27, 2020 1:51 pm
robjohn wrote:skidemin wrote:RV Casual wrote:I am sure your a decent person but this is a terrible post that I think/hope you will regret.
Personaly speaking I know of only 3 people who have had Covid 19 and none of them died.
I have lost a mate to Suicide during the Pandemic, a very good friend of mine lost her Nan (and whilst she died of natural courses) the family believe she just gave up as she was in the care home and her mental health deteriorated rapidly when she had no personal interaction.
I am also currently seriously worried about 3 friends, one didn't work from March untill last Month as Gyms were closed and is constantly worried that they will be shut down again. He is absolutely fried for want of a better word. Another one of my mates has work up untill the end of this month at which point they may well be let go, even more so if the hospitality sector goes. And another one of my mates who lives alone cannot deal with the loneliness.
If your life is good, that is wonderful and long may it continue but just because things are rosey for you right now NEVER underestimate how quickly things can change or have the attitude you have as it makes you look like a complete prick.
been banging this drum from day 1 , ive lost 2 people ive been friendly with over this too, one suicide who saw no future for a business he had spent 30 years building which just ground to a halt, slowly started up again , only for the new restrictions and threat of it being 6 months to very much finish it off.. the other of a heart attack who had chest pains but was more scared of the hospital than his impending death. literally scared to death... i know of a number of covid deaths through friends none of whom thought the dead relative had long anyway ..i know its killing younger pple but seriously not many... .
the tag early on was health v wealth ...yes truer words have never been spoken... those financially secure v those desperate to live and have a life.
They don't give a shit how many disillusioned men commit suicide they are not a protected group,
Sun Sep 27, 2020 3:37 pm