Is this Board sane or progressive

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Both

How is that Possible ?

How is that Possible ?

Progressive is defined as "making progress toward better conditions; employing or advocating more enlightened or liberal ideas, new or experimental methods"

Being sane is defined as "a person of sound mind"

My view is this board has plenty of progressively minded posters who advocate more liberal and experimental ideas about football. I consider most posters to be of sound mind (there are exceptions like Roathie ) but even posters who I disagree with are generally not mentally ill (even if I would like to think they are! )

I consider myself largel libertarian with some traditional conservative leanings. Mostly fiscally.

I'm happy for anyone to hold whatever views they want. I draw the line when they try to impose their views on us all.

Being progressive isn't bad. They largely want the same things as someone like but they differ on methodology for achievement.
Progressives as a term is unfair as the forceful ones are neither progressive or liberal. They are authoritarian ideologues.

But that surely is the issue with some progressives they are totally illiberal.

They do not want to hear other views its become exactly like any fundamental Religion.

You only have to see by their actions and demonization of anyone whos disagrees, they

think they are more moral when in reality they are indoctrinated.

they would burn people at the stake if they could,

I dont believe all progressives are. Its a wide brush to tar them all with. I think their "church" has been infiltrated by extremists though.

I have a lot of friends who consider themselves progressive but are a long way away from the extremists approach.

It's like saying all brexiteers are racist gammons that hate foreigners.

I voted Brexit and I'm none of those things. I dislike ever increasing layers of bureaucracy and government.

I Said some not all.

Why for instance do they think theres a far right problem ?

Why do you think labour were destroyed in election ?

I am a labour member and I can tell you the party is full of anti liberal/enlightenment values unfortunately.

Why do they want to ban and cancel people.

Its people like you let down by people like them sadly. I dont know the answer but the silent majority need to start standing up to the illiberal and intolerant. They are making this place quite unpleasant. disagree with them and they give out abuse and claim victim status.

The sad thing is the centre left and centre right pretty much agree on most things. Just look at they way the media is manipulating everyone and who do they represent ?
This is oldest trick in book turn the people with no power and money against each other so the status quo continues, I cant how anyone can honestly think any of the political and media class gives a toss anyone but themselves and what they want.
if these causes were from the bottom up then fair play but its all a game , why no badges for the homeless ?
why no badges for julian Assange the last journalist left in the this country who will be in prison for rest of his life.
The economy will be destroyed by covid and we have ten years of hell coming the media wont give a shit, just like they didn't when we destroyed the middle east.

Yep. As I alluded to. I think the centre right and left ultimately want the same things just differ in how they think it should be achieved.

Unfortunately political classes and the media that surround them in their bubble are in it for themselves.

Me? Cynical? Never!

Blaming the right is a desperate call for people to distance, although Starmer is now oddly proclaiming to be a patriot. Labour were destroyed because their ideology no longer resonates, and they appear boring.

The frustrating thing I have is I dont particularly agree with a lot of what the conservatives want. But I'm not left leaning. Who else can I vote for?
I personally believe in lower direct taxes as I believe more money in your pocket will lead to greater spending therefore more indirect taxes. simplistic yes and the conservatives don't exactly slash taxes. But all other political options are left leaning therefore higher. Labour. Plaid. Lib dems.

Who are our alternatives on the political right?
No one.

Yet you get outright abuse on social media if you admit to ve ing right leaning and called all the names under the sun.

The aggressive left which I believe are alluded to do nothing to build bridges and upset the normal people who are left leaning.

The frustrating thing I have is I dont particularly agree with a lot of what the conservatives want. But I'm not left leaning. Who else can I vote for?
I personally believe in lower direct taxes as I believe more money in your pocket will lead to greater spending therefore more indirect taxes. simplistic yes and the conservatives don't exactly slash taxes. But all other political options are left leaning therefore higher. Labour. Plaid. Lib dems.

Who are our alternatives on the political right?
No one.

Yet you get outright abuse on social media if you admit to ve ing right leaning and called all the names under the sun.

The aggressive left which I believe are alluded to do nothing to build bridges and upset the normal people who are left leaning.

Im centre left on most things but the new left now despise the working class of this country , they have always looked down on us .
just look who they attack
football fans are now far right apparently
anyone who points out anti scientific stances are far right
everyones racist apparently apart fro them who mention race at every opportunity.
white males esp working class are all racists
now they are attacking working class women if they complain about their spaces including non xx chromsome