Mon Sep 07, 2020 6:12 pm
Mon Sep 07, 2020 6:42 pm
Mon Sep 07, 2020 7:23 pm
Forever Blue wrote:How can you put Caerphilly in lock down but the pubs / restaurants are allowed to stay open what a joke!
Mon Sep 07, 2020 7:26 pm
Forever Blue wrote:How can you put Caerphilly in lock down but the pubs / restaurants are allowed to stay open what a joke!
Mon Sep 07, 2020 7:29 pm
Mon Sep 07, 2020 7:43 pm
Forever Blue wrote:How can you put Caerphilly in lock down but the pubs / restaurants are allowed to stay open what a joke!
Mon Sep 07, 2020 7:46 pm
Mon Sep 07, 2020 7:58 pm
Mon Sep 07, 2020 8:00 pm
Mon Sep 07, 2020 8:09 pm
davids wrote:The amount of people dying no longer relevant.
The amount of people in hospital no longer relevant.
The number of people in intensive care doesn't matter.
The fact that the NHS are under no pressure whatsoever from Covid 19 is never mentioned.
Now that all of the above are virtually nil it's all about the "infections".
No information on the ages or physical conditions of the "huge" number of new infections.
Is the aim of every government in the world to keep restrictions on people's freedom in place until there are NO instances of people having the virus because that will never happen.
It's a strange world for sure.
Mon Sep 07, 2020 8:35 pm
worcester_ccfc wrote:Forever Blue wrote:How can you put Caerphilly in lock down but the pubs / restaurants are allowed to stay open what a joke!
Just the same as what Matt Hancock has been doing with local lockdowns in England.
Mon Sep 07, 2020 8:35 pm
Mon Sep 07, 2020 8:47 pm
worcester_ccfc wrote:Forever Blue wrote:How can you put Caerphilly in lock down but the pubs / restaurants are allowed to stay open what a joke!
Just the same as what Matt Hancock has been doing with local lockdowns in England.
Mon Sep 07, 2020 9:03 pm
pembroke allan wrote:davids wrote:The amount of people dying no longer relevant.
The amount of people in hospital no longer relevant.
The number of people in intensive care doesn't matter.
The fact that the NHS are under no pressure whatsoever from Covid 19 is never mentioned.
Now that all of the above are virtually nil it's all about the "infections".
No information on the ages or physical conditions of the "huge" number of new infections.
Is the aim of every government in the world to keep restrictions on people's freedom in place until there are NO instances of people having the virus because that will never happen.
It's a strange world for sure.
Banged on about this for awhile but when you look from beginning its always been about negative side (deaths) nothing else! What your going to get is local lockdowns in rotation what town is next ?
Good question for drakeford is why when
his own experts are saying going to have 2nd wave plus got winter flu ect are the field hospitals being dismantled ? Thats a non sensicle decision unless they are keeping things from Joe public...
Mon Sep 07, 2020 9:13 pm
Mon Sep 07, 2020 9:16 pm
Mon Sep 07, 2020 9:19 pm
Mon Sep 07, 2020 9:21 pm
Mon Sep 07, 2020 10:18 pm
NPCF3 wrote:pembroke allan wrote:davids wrote:The amount of people dying no longer relevant.
The amount of people in hospital no longer relevant.
The number of people in intensive care doesn't matter.
The fact that the NHS are under no pressure whatsoever from Covid 19 is never mentioned.
Now that all of the above are virtually nil it's all about the "infections".
No information on the ages or physical conditions of the "huge" number of new infections.
Is the aim of every government in the world to keep restrictions on people's freedom in place until there are NO instances of people having the virus because that will never happen.
It's a strange world for sure.
Banged on about this for awhile but when you look from beginning its always been about negative side (deaths) nothing else! What your going to get is local lockdowns in rotation what town is next ?
Good question for drakeford is why when
his own experts are saying going to have 2nd wave plus got winter flu ect are the field hospitals being dismantled ? Thats a non sensicle decision unless they are keeping things from Joe public...
Allan,
It's "cases cases cases" at the moment, that's how they've kept Project Fear going over the summer months.
All media reporting is negative biased news.
Why have we never had a rolling death count of cancer deaths every day on the news?
Road traffic deaths?
Tuberculosis?
Pneumonia?
hmm...
Mon Sep 07, 2020 10:41 pm
pembroke allan wrote:NPCF3 wrote:pembroke allan wrote:davids wrote:The amount of people dying no longer relevant.
The amount of people in hospital no longer relevant.
The number of people in intensive care doesn't matter.
The fact that the NHS are under no pressure whatsoever from Covid 19 is never mentioned.
Now that all of the above are virtually nil it's all about the "infections".
No information on the ages or physical conditions of the "huge" number of new infections.
Is the aim of every government in the world to keep restrictions on people's freedom in place until there are NO instances of people having the virus because that will never happen.
It's a strange world for sure.
Banged on about this for awhile but when you look from beginning its always been about negative side (deaths) nothing else! What your going to get is local lockdowns in rotation what town is next ?
Good question for drakeford is why when
his own experts are saying going to have 2nd wave plus got winter flu ect are the field hospitals being dismantled ? Thats a non sensicle decision unless they are keeping things from Joe public...
Allan,
It's "cases cases cases" at the moment, that's how they've kept Project Fear going over the summer months.
All media reporting is negative biased news.
Why have we never had a rolling death count of cancer deaths every day on the news?
Road traffic deaths?
Tuberculosis?
Pneumonia?
hmm...
Preventable deaths are going to go through roof because hospitals are closed down to most things with one two exceptions! And people are to scared go go to hospital for operations? My sister got call asking if she would go on standby list as not enough people are wanting their ops at moment.... but you can be sure these deaths will not be reported.
Mon Sep 07, 2020 10:43 pm
pembroke allan wrote:NPCF3 wrote:pembroke allan wrote:davids wrote:The amount of people dying no longer relevant.
The amount of people in hospital no longer relevant.
The number of people in intensive care doesn't matter.
The fact that the NHS are under no pressure whatsoever from Covid 19 is never mentioned.
Now that all of the above are virtually nil it's all about the "infections".
No information on the ages or physical conditions of the "huge" number of new infections.
Is the aim of every government in the world to keep restrictions on people's freedom in place until there are NO instances of people having the virus because that will never happen.
It's a strange world for sure.
Banged on about this for awhile but when you look from beginning its always been about negative side (deaths) nothing else! What your going to get is local lockdowns in rotation what town is next ?
Good question for drakeford is why when
his own experts are saying going to have 2nd wave plus got winter flu ect are the field hospitals being dismantled ? Thats a non sensicle decision unless they are keeping things from Joe public...
Allan,
It's "cases cases cases" at the moment, that's how they've kept Project Fear going over the summer months.
All media reporting is negative biased news.
Why have we never had a rolling death count of cancer deaths every day on the news?
Road traffic deaths?
Tuberculosis?
Pneumonia?
hmm...
Preventable deaths are going to go through roof because hospitals are closed down to most things with one two exceptions! And people are to scared go go to hospital for operations? My sister got call asking if she would go on standby list as not enough people are wanting their ops at moment.... but you can be sure these deaths will not be reported.
Mon Sep 07, 2020 10:50 pm
Mon Sep 07, 2020 10:51 pm
NPCF3 wrote:pembroke allan wrote:NPCF3 wrote:pembroke allan wrote:davids wrote:The amount of people dying no longer relevant.
The amount of people in hospital no longer relevant.
The number of people in intensive care doesn't matter.
The fact that the NHS are under no pressure whatsoever from Covid 19 is never mentioned.
Now that all of the above are virtually nil it's all about the "infections".
No information on the ages or physical conditions of the "huge" number of new infections.
Is the aim of every government in the world to keep restrictions on people's freedom in place until there are NO instances of people having the virus because that will never happen.
It's a strange world for sure.
Banged on about this for awhile but when you look from beginning its always been about negative side (deaths) nothing else! What your going to get is local lockdowns in rotation what town is next ?
Good question for drakeford is why when
his own experts are saying going to have 2nd wave plus got winter flu ect are the field hospitals being dismantled ? Thats a non sensicle decision unless they are keeping things from Joe public...
Allan,
It's "cases cases cases" at the moment, that's how they've kept Project Fear going over the summer months.
All media reporting is negative biased news.
Why have we never had a rolling death count of cancer deaths every day on the news?
Road traffic deaths?
Tuberculosis?
Pneumonia?
hmm...
Preventable deaths are going to go through roof because hospitals are closed down to most things with one two exceptions! And people are to scared go go to hospital for operations? My sister got call asking if she would go on standby list as not enough people are wanting their ops at moment.... but you can be sure these deaths will not be reported.
All I can say is that common sense is going out of the window and we are trading our freedom for 'safety'. Very dangerous times.
It's hard to know what to do, if you go out and peacefully protest, you watch that get blamed on further lockdowns... Even though other protests have not been proven to escalate hospitalisations/deaths. Also, large protests are prone to getting infiltrated by glory hunters, disinfo etc...
At the moment all I can think of is keeping people open-minded at a minimum and printing off resources from WHO, CDC, UN and news articles etc. that dispel the Project Fear narrative.
Tue Sep 08, 2020 12:05 am
skidemin wrote:NPCF3 wrote:pembroke allan wrote:NPCF3 wrote:pembroke allan wrote:davids wrote:The amount of people dying no longer relevant.
The amount of people in hospital no longer relevant.
The number of people in intensive care doesn't matter.
The fact that the NHS are under no pressure whatsoever from Covid 19 is never mentioned.
Now that all of the above are virtually nil it's all about the "infections".
No information on the ages or physical conditions of the "huge" number of new infections.
Is the aim of every government in the world to keep restrictions on people's freedom in place until there are NO instances of people having the virus because that will never happen.
It's a strange world for sure.
Banged on about this for awhile but when you look from beginning its always been about negative side (deaths) nothing else! What your going to get is local lockdowns in rotation what town is next ?
Good question for drakeford is why when
his own experts are saying going to have 2nd wave plus got winter flu ect are the field hospitals being dismantled ? Thats a non sensicle decision unless they are keeping things from Joe public...
Allan,
It's "cases cases cases" at the moment, that's how they've kept Project Fear going over the summer months.
All media reporting is negative biased news.
Why have we never had a rolling death count of cancer deaths every day on the news?
Road traffic deaths?
Tuberculosis?
Pneumonia?
hmm...
Preventable deaths are going to go through roof because hospitals are closed down to most things with one two exceptions! And people are to scared go go to hospital for operations? My sister got call asking if she would go on standby list as not enough people are wanting their ops at moment.... but you can be sure these deaths will not be reported.
All I can say is that common sense is going out of the window and we are trading our freedom for 'safety'. Very dangerous times.
It's hard to know what to do, if you go out and peacefully protest, you watch that get blamed on further lockdowns... Even though other protests have not been proven to escalate hospitalisations/deaths. Also, large protests are prone to getting infiltrated by glory hunters, disinfo etc...
At the moment all I can think of is keeping people open-minded at a minimum and printing off resources from WHO, CDC, UN and news articles etc. that dispel the Project Fear narrative.
ive been putting numbers out since before we locked down... always official ones.. but to no avail..
people do not care they seem happy to be frightened .. its unreasonable and unfathomable... a mate of mine got this virus and was in bed for 3 days quite rough.. honestly i must have been asked 50 times if its true he has had it and is he ok now.... now heres the thing, had he been equally as rough in bed for 3 days with flu. most of those asking wouldnt even know... its as if covid is an obsession with people ?
Tue Sep 08, 2020 12:11 am
skidemin wrote:NPCF3 wrote:pembroke allan wrote:NPCF3 wrote:pembroke allan wrote:davids wrote:The amount of people dying no longer relevant.
The amount of people in hospital no longer relevant.
The number of people in intensive care doesn't matter.
The fact that the NHS are under no pressure whatsoever from Covid 19 is never mentioned.
Now that all of the above are virtually nil it's all about the "infections".
No information on the ages or physical conditions of the "huge" number of new infections.
Is the aim of every government in the world to keep restrictions on people's freedom in place until there are NO instances of people having the virus because that will never happen.
It's a strange world for sure.
Banged on about this for awhile but when you look from beginning its always been about negative side (deaths) nothing else! What your going to get is local lockdowns in rotation what town is next ?
Good question for drakeford is why when
his own experts are saying going to have 2nd wave plus got winter flu ect are the field hospitals being dismantled ? Thats a non sensicle decision unless they are keeping things from Joe public...
Allan,
It's "cases cases cases" at the moment, that's how they've kept Project Fear going over the summer months.
All media reporting is negative biased news.
Why have we never had a rolling death count of cancer deaths every day on the news?
Road traffic deaths?
Tuberculosis?
Pneumonia?
hmm...
Preventable deaths are going to go through roof because hospitals are closed down to most things with one two exceptions! And people are to scared go go to hospital for operations? My sister got call asking if she would go on standby list as not enough people are wanting their ops at moment.... but you can be sure these deaths will not be reported.
All I can say is that common sense is going out of the window and we are trading our freedom for 'safety'. Very dangerous times.
It's hard to know what to do, if you go out and peacefully protest, you watch that get blamed on further lockdowns... Even though other protests have not been proven to escalate hospitalisations/deaths. Also, large protests are prone to getting infiltrated by glory hunters, disinfo etc...
At the moment all I can think of is keeping people open-minded at a minimum and printing off resources from WHO, CDC, UN and news articles etc. that dispel the Project Fear narrative.
ive been putting numbers out since before we locked down... always official ones.. but to no avail..
people do not care they seem happy to be frightened .. its unreasonable and unfathomable... a mate of mine got this virus and was in bed for 3 days quite rough.. honestly i must have been asked 50 times if its true he has had it and is he ok now.... now heres the thing, had he been equally as rough in bed for 3 days with flu. most of those asking wouldnt even know... its as if covid is an obsession with people ?
Tue Sep 08, 2020 12:35 am
bluesince62 wrote:skidemin wrote:NPCF3 wrote:pembroke allan wrote:NPCF3 wrote:pembroke allan wrote:davids wrote:The amount of people dying no longer relevant.
The amount of people in hospital no longer relevant.
The number of people in intensive care doesn't matter.
The fact that the NHS are under no pressure whatsoever from Covid 19 is never mentioned.
Now that all of the above are virtually nil it's all about the "infections".
No information on the ages or physical conditions of the "huge" number of new infections.
Is the aim of every government in the world to keep restrictions on people's freedom in place until there are NO instances of people having the virus because that will never happen.
It's a strange world for sure.
Banged on about this for awhile but when you look from beginning its always been about negative side (deaths) nothing else! What your going to get is local lockdowns in rotation what town is next ?
Good question for drakeford is why when
his own experts are saying going to have 2nd wave plus got winter flu ect are the field hospitals being dismantled ? Thats a non sensicle decision unless they are keeping things from Joe public...
Allan,
It's "cases cases cases" at the moment, that's how they've kept Project Fear going over the summer months.
All media reporting is negative biased news.
Why have we never had a rolling death count of cancer deaths every day on the news?
Road traffic deaths?
Tuberculosis?
Pneumonia?
hmm...
Preventable deaths are going to go through roof because hospitals are closed down to most things with one two exceptions! And people are to scared go go to hospital for operations? My sister got call asking if she would go on standby list as not enough people are wanting their ops at moment.... but you can be sure these deaths will not be reported.
All I can say is that common sense is going out of the window and we are trading our freedom for 'safety'. Very dangerous times.
It's hard to know what to do, if you go out and peacefully protest, you watch that get blamed on further lockdowns... Even though other protests have not been proven to escalate hospitalisations/deaths. Also, large protests are prone to getting infiltrated by glory hunters, disinfo etc...
At the moment all I can think of is keeping people open-minded at a minimum and printing off resources from WHO, CDC, UN and news articles etc. that dispel the Project Fear narrative.
ive been putting numbers out since before we locked down... always official ones.. but to no avail..
people do not care they seem happy to be frightened .. its unreasonable and unfathomable... a mate of mine got this virus and was in bed for 3 days quite rough.. honestly i must have been asked 50 times if its true he has had it and is he ok now.... now heres the thing, had he been equally as rough in bed for 3 days with flu. most of those asking wouldnt even know... its as if covid is an obsession with people ?
Me and you have the same views on covid,bar one.my mother is terrified as an 80 year old,to the extent of having quite severe panic attacks,on the occasions she has triedshe had a very active life until this b@locks, and was very sociable,now she hides at home,just waiting for the 3rd letter,warning her to stay in and away from people!!
Hardly say she was happy with how it's f@cked her life over! My 55 yr old sister the same! Even to the extent she has bought an electric scooter for her commute between jobs,and to avoid buses and taxi's,
I would normally call her a tough old b@tch,who has put up with her fair share of shit down the years,who now has an app to see who around her might have been infected,is paranoid (hard to say that word lightly) to f@ck,all because she listens and believes all the tv tells her regarding the virus,
I try when I see her to see my side,and why I'm not a quivering wreck,scared to shit,but she keeps reverting to type,which is what a lot of people are doing,only they are doing it the opposite way to her,instead of being cautious to the point your life is shit (because you have let the "virus" win!) Just be cautious full stop.
I'm dreading this"second wave" not for me,but for 2 of my loved ones,whose poor brains are at breaking point![]()
Anyway as I said I agree with the rest of your post![]()
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Tue Sep 08, 2020 7:24 am
Tue Sep 08, 2020 8:00 am
Tue Sep 08, 2020 8:12 am
bluesince62 wrote:skidemin wrote:NPCF3 wrote:pembroke allan wrote:NPCF3 wrote:pembroke allan wrote:davids wrote:The amount of people dying no longer relevant.
The amount of people in hospital no longer relevant.
The number of people in intensive care doesn't matter.
The fact that the NHS are under no pressure whatsoever from Covid 19 is never mentioned.
Now that all of the above are virtually nil it's all about the "infections".
No information on the ages or physical conditions of the "huge" number of new infections.
Is the aim of every government in the world to keep restrictions on people's freedom in place until there are NO instances of people having the virus because that will never happen.
It's a strange world for sure.
Banged on about this for awhile but when you look from beginning its always been about negative side (deaths) nothing else! What your going to get is local lockdowns in rotation what town is next ?
Good question for drakeford is why when
his own experts are saying going to have 2nd wave plus got winter flu ect are the field hospitals being dismantled ? Thats a non sensicle decision unless they are keeping things from Joe public...
Allan,
It's "cases cases cases" at the moment, that's how they've kept Project Fear going over the summer months.
All media reporting is negative biased news.
Why have we never had a rolling death count of cancer deaths every day on the news?
Road traffic deaths?
Tuberculosis?
Pneumonia?
hmm...
Preventable deaths are going to go through roof because hospitals are closed down to most things with one two exceptions! And people are to scared go go to hospital for operations? My sister got call asking if she would go on standby list as not enough people are wanting their ops at moment.... but you can be sure these deaths will not be reported.
All I can say is that common sense is going out of the window and we are trading our freedom for 'safety'. Very dangerous times.
It's hard to know what to do, if you go out and peacefully protest, you watch that get blamed on further lockdowns... Even though other protests have not been proven to escalate hospitalisations/deaths. Also, large protests are prone to getting infiltrated by glory hunters, disinfo etc...
At the moment all I can think of is keeping people open-minded at a minimum and printing off resources from WHO, CDC, UN and news articles etc. that dispel the Project Fear narrative.
ive been putting numbers out since before we locked down... always official ones.. but to no avail..
people do not care they seem happy to be frightened .. its unreasonable and unfathomable... a mate of mine got this virus and was in bed for 3 days quite rough.. honestly i must have been asked 50 times if its true he has had it and is he ok now.... now heres the thing, had he been equally as rough in bed for 3 days with flu. most of those asking wouldnt even know... its as if covid is an obsession with people ?
Me and you have the same views on covid,bar one.my mother is terrified as an 80 year old,to the extent of having quite severe panic attacks,on the occasions she has triedshe had a very active life until this b@locks, and was very sociable,now she hides at home,just waiting for the 3rd letter,warning her to stay in and away from people!!
Hardly say she was happy with how it's f@cked her life over! My 55 yr old sister the same! Even to the extent she has bought an electric scooter for her commute between jobs,and to avoid buses and taxi's,
I would normally call her a tough old b@tch,who has put up with her fair share of shit down the years,who now has an app to see who around her might have been infected,is paranoid (hard to say that word lightly) to f@ck,all because she listens and believes all the tv tells her regarding the virus,
I try when I see her to see my side,and why I'm not a quivering wreck,scared to shit,but she keeps reverting to type,which is what a lot of people are doing,only they are doing it the opposite way to her,instead of being cautious to the point your life is shit (because you have let the "virus" win!) Just be cautious full stop.
I'm dreading this"second wave" not for me,but for 2 of my loved ones,whose poor brains are at breaking point![]()
Anyway as I said I agree with the rest of your post![]()
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Tue Sep 08, 2020 8:48 am
llan bluebird wrote:There can only be two causes. Foreign holidays or pubs. Generally they involve booze and late night booze at that.
Close all pubs at 22:00, how can a coyote ugly be responsible for the masses trying to get into their premises. Its not going to work.
As usual WAG are not up to it. Some of the daftest things i have heard come from Cardiff bay, but lock down with the pubs open is beyond any sense.
If they "believe in the science" be true to it and not half measures. Whether you think the interpretation of the data is correct is a totally different scenario.
Caerphilly, Risca,Blackwood in "Lockdown" doesn't half make the headlines in the national news but upon closer inspection its totally pointless, like the Wales Government.