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BLM And The New Cultural Revolution

Sun Sep 06, 2020 6:36 am

I am really disappointed to see players still taking the knee at football matches. They wouldn't be doing so if crowds were in the stadium. I don't care if they support the sentiment; they are doing the bidding of a violent, racist far left organisation that wants a Marxist revoulution. I dare say that the mainstream media isn't showing scenes like those in this video. It is clear from this that BLM is adopting the strategy and tactics of the Maoist (Chinese) Cultural Revolution that started in 1966. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=olXipfC ... sephWatson God help America if they succeed.

Re: BLM And The New Cultural Revolution

Sun Sep 06, 2020 7:21 am

This is a subject we could all debate all day and we will get nowhere with it.

Its an emotional scare and we have not really learnt from history about it. This sort of cultural change has happened all over the world and through all time. French Revolution is the earliest one I learn't and I guess the latest one is Iran. Both saw landonwerships change overnight leaving behind death and destruction. Surely there must be a better way.

For me I just feel the problem lies with the haves and have nots. At the moment we live in a global culture of the banks and elites running the show. They are the haves and their plan is to keep the have nots on what I call a Border of Content. To put that in context it means putting the have nots in a room with light and if they show disconcern then just switch the light off and let them fight amongst themselves in the dark. Conquer and Divide is how we know it.

Re: BLM And The New Cultural Revolution

Sun Sep 06, 2020 8:29 am

Cultural Marxism - https://documentarylovers.com/film/cult ... f-america/

Re: BLM And The New Cultural Revolution

Sun Sep 06, 2020 8:41 am

JasonFowler1991 wrote:Cultural Marxism - https://documentarylovers.com/film/cult ... f-america/


Accidentally clicked submit before I finished.
One element of Cultural Marx is Critical Race Theory. Martin Luther King said he wanted people to be judged on the content of their character, rather than the colour of their skin.
Well critical race theory teaches the absolute opposite of this. It teaches that we belong within our categories, and we are pre conditioned. E.g - all white people are inherently racist, even white children take part in white supremacy.

Many corporations are now rolling out 'Unconscious Bias' or 'Anti Racism' trainings, which are based upon this ideological belief.
Schools are also being pushed to teach 'White Fragility' and 'White Privilege'. Again, all theories from the above ideology and its based on having an oppressor, and the oppressed.

Re: BLM And The New Cultural Revolution

Sun Sep 06, 2020 8:55 am

If we follow this matter back to it's lowest common denominator we simply get bullying by the strong on the weak. As the commentator said "history isn't repeating itself by it does rhyme"

BLM and woke culture have never been so strong. The reason being that anyone who speaks out against BLM & Wokeness faces the prospect of being cancelled, sacked or seeing their career go up in flames and lose their pensions.

This makes the opposition to BLM/Woke 'weak' and provides fertile ground for them to bully their agenda further. There must be many players who secretly don't want to take the knee. It's not because they don't agree that Black Lives Matter, but the fact that they believe All Lives Matter and no single ethnic group should be targeted for special privilege.

Unfortunately if they refused to take the knee they would be target, cancelled and out of a job.

Until people of all colours and backgrounds find their backbones to stand up to these bullies then this matter is only going to get worse for everyone.

Re: BLM And The New Cultural Revolution

Sun Sep 06, 2020 3:26 pm

Bakedalasker wrote:This is a subject we could all debate all day and we will get nowhere with it.

Its an emotional scare and we have not really learnt from history about it. This sort of cultural change has happened all over the world and through all time. French Revolution is the earliest one I learn't and I guess the latest one is Iran. Both saw landonwerships change overnight leaving behind death and destruction. Surely there must be a better way.

For me I just feel the problem lies with the haves and have nots. At the moment we live in a global culture of the banks and elites running the show. They are the haves and their plan is to keep the have nots on what I call a Border of Content. To put that in context it means putting the have nots in a room with light and if they show disconcern then just switch the light off and let them fight amongst themselves in the dark. Conquer and Divide is how we know it.


I didn't post this to prompt a debate really - though that's fine. I just wanted to give people who may not be aware the chance to see what's going on in America - the true nature of BLM if you like. Yea - I agree that massive wealth and power inequalities are huge problems today.

Re: BLM And The New Cultural Revolution

Sun Sep 06, 2020 3:47 pm

JasonFowler1991 wrote:
JasonFowler1991 wrote:Cultural Marxism - https://documentarylovers.com/film/cult ... f-america/


Accidentally clicked submit before I finished.
One element of Cultural Marx is Critical Race Theory. Martin Luther King said he wanted people to be judged on the content of their character, rather than the colour of their skin.
Well critical race theory teaches the absolute opposite of this. It teaches that we belong within our categories, and we are pre conditioned. E.g - all white people are inherently racist, even white children take part in white supremacy.

Many corporations are now rolling out 'Unconscious Bias' or 'Anti Racism' trainings, which are based upon this ideological belief.
Schools are also being pushed to teach 'White Fragility' and 'White Privilege'. Again, all theories from the above ideology and its based on having an oppressor, and the oppressed.


Critical Race Theory and White Privilege are even taught to Federal Government employees - though Trump has just announced that he will be putting a stop to that. You are so right about the role of force - reason and argument are now old hat, having been replaced by shouting insults. The oppressor/oppressed theory is supposed to be taken from Marx (though Marx is much more nuanced than this), but as Jordon Peterson has argued, this theory cannot account for all the faults in societies. Life is much more complex than that. And that old fashioned thing called truth has no role to play in politics - the role of Democrat supporting newspapers, for example, is to peddle propaganda, rather than provide investigative journalism and the role of the politically motivated owners of social media platforms is to censor anything that conflicts with what they deem to be acceptable narratives. This is all widespread and prolific. Makes me nostalgic for for the past - which I am probably looking at through rose tinted glasses.

Re: BLM And The New Cultural Revolution

Sun Sep 06, 2020 4:59 pm

Witnessed the BLM march through Bristol today.

Placards galore.

"Defund the police".

Hahaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa idiots.

Re: BLM And The New Cultural Revolution

Sun Sep 06, 2020 6:01 pm

Borders Blue wrote:
JasonFowler1991 wrote:
JasonFowler1991 wrote:Cultural Marxism - https://documentarylovers.com/film/cult ... f-america/


Accidentally clicked submit before I finished.
One element of Cultural Marx is Critical Race Theory. Martin Luther King said he wanted people to be judged on the content of their character, rather than the colour of their skin.
Well critical race theory teaches the absolute opposite of this. It teaches that we belong within our categories, and we are pre conditioned. E.g - all white people are inherently racist, even white children take part in white supremacy.

Many corporations are now rolling out 'Unconscious Bias' or 'Anti Racism' trainings, which are based upon this ideological belief.
Schools are also being pushed to teach 'White Fragility' and 'White Privilege'. Again, all theories from the above ideology and its based on having an oppressor, and the oppressed.


Critical Race Theory and White Privilege are even taught to Federal Government employees - though Trump has just announced that he will be putting a stop to that. You are so right about the role of force - reason and argument are now old hat, having been replaced by shouting insults. The oppressor/oppressed theory is supposed to be taken from Marx (though Marx is much more nuanced than this), but as Jordon Peterson has argued, this theory cannot account for all the faults in societies. Life is much more complex than that. And that old fashioned thing called truth has no role to play in politics - the role of Democrat supporting newspapers, for example, is to peddle propaganda, rather than provide investigative journalism and the role of the politically motivated owners of social media platforms is to censor anything that conflicts with what they deem to be acceptable narratives. This is all widespread and prolific. Makes me nostalgic for for the past - which I am probably looking at through rose tinted glasses.


You can add Google, Youtube, Facebook and Twiiter to that list too.

Re: BLM And The New Cultural Revolution

Sun Sep 06, 2020 7:29 pm

JasonFowler1991 wrote:
Borders Blue wrote:
JasonFowler1991 wrote:
JasonFowler1991 wrote:Cultural Marxism - https://documentarylovers.com/film/cult ... f-america/


Accidentally clicked submit before I finished.
One element of Cultural Marx is Critical Race Theory. Martin Luther King said he wanted people to be judged on the content of their character, rather than the colour of their skin.
Well critical race theory teaches the absolute opposite of this. It teaches that we belong within our categories, and we are pre conditioned. E.g - all white people are inherently racist, even white children take part in white supremacy.

Many corporations are now rolling out 'Unconscious Bias' or 'Anti Racism' trainings, which are based upon this ideological belief.
Schools are also being pushed to teach 'White Fragility' and 'White Privilege'. Again, all theories from the above ideology and its based on having an oppressor, and the oppressed.


Critical Race Theory and White Privilege are even taught to Federal Government employees - though Trump has just announced that he will be putting a stop to that. You are so right about the role of force - reason and argument are now old hat, having been replaced by shouting insults. The oppressor/oppressed theory is supposed to be taken from Marx (though Marx is much more nuanced than this), but as Jordon Peterson has argued, this theory cannot account for all the faults in societies. Life is much more complex than that. And that old fashioned thing called truth has no role to play in politics - the role of Democrat supporting newspapers, for example, is to peddle propaganda, rather than provide investigative journalism and the role of the politically motivated owners of social media platforms is to censor anything that conflicts with what they deem to be acceptable narratives. This is all widespread and prolific. Makes me nostalgic for for the past - which I am probably looking at through rose tinted glasses.


You can add Google, Youtube, Facebook and Twiiter to that list too.


Yea sure - that's what I meant by social media platforms. I don't use Facebook or Twitter, but I use Youtube a lot - and am subscribed to about 70 channels. These are independent journalists mostly, who don't accept mainstream narratives. Many of them have had shows cancelled or demonitised for simply telling the truth. It happens all the time. Some have even been taken off Youtube altogether, but have set up on other platforms that don't do censorship.

Re: BLM And The New Cultural Revolution

Sun Sep 06, 2020 7:34 pm

Big Hill Blue wrote:Witnessed the BLM march through Bristol today.

Placards galore.

"Defund the police".

Hahaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa idiots.


And I bet they won't get fined £10,000 like Piers Corbyn was for organising the London Rally against lockdown.

Re: BLM And The New Cultural Revolution

Sun Sep 06, 2020 7:58 pm

From what I've learned during the past few months, I understand taking the knee is a black anti racist gesture. Unfortunately, the taking the knee gesture has been hijacked by the BLM organisation to push their own agendas of attempting to defund the police, rioting, looting, vandalism and anything else they can think of to cause continual disruption and divisions within communities. What's been happening in Portland the past few months for example is shocking and is sadly one of several examples of the chaos BLM is causing.

In my opinion, Sky and football should be distancing itself from the taking the knee gesture and protesting against racism its own separate way. Sky won't do this though because they are controlled by the same people who control the media and control BLM - the establishment.

The BLM organisation is not anti racist, as BLM's agendas are simply not for the benefit of black people. A lot of black Americans are waking up to this. 2 black American ladies even poured paint over the BLM mural shouting "refund the police".

This link shows the people who really run BLM and where the BLM donations are really going. You can look up Susan Rosenberg etc yourselves if you want further evidence. https://www.washingtonexaminer.com/news ... -its-board

I'm 100% against the taking the knee gesture and in my opinion, football should be protesting against racism its own, separate way.

Re: BLM And The New Cultural Revolution

Sun Sep 06, 2020 8:29 pm

Tonteg Bluebird wrote:From what I've learned during the past few months, I understand taking the knee is a black anti racist gesture. Unfortunately, the taking the knee gesture has been hijacked by the BLM organisation to push their own agendas of attempting to defund the police, rioting, looting, vandalism and anything else they can think of to cause continual disruption and divisions within communities. What's been happening in Portland the past few months for example is shocking and is sadly one of several examples of the chaos BLM is causing.

In my opinion, Sky and football should be distancing itself from the taking the knee gesture and protesting against racism its own separate way. Sky won't do this though because they are controlled by the same people who control the media and control BLM - the establishment.

The BLM organisation is not anti racist, as BLM's agendas are simply not for the benefit of black people. A lot of black Americans are waking up to this. 2 black American ladies even poured paint over the BLM mural shouting "refund the police".

This link shows the people who really run BLM and where the BLM donations are really going. You can look up Susan Rosenberg etc yourselves if you want further evidence. https://www.washingtonexaminer.com/news ... -its-board

I'm 100% against the taking the knee gesture and in my opinion, football should be protesting against racism its own, separate way.


I agree, it was not wise of them to have jumped on the BLM bandwagon. Read your link but it doesn't appear to mention that BLM money goes to funding the 'progressive' wing of the Democrat party - i.e. people like Ilhan Omar, Alexandria Ocasio Cortez and Bernie Sanders. I'm not sure what happens to the BLM funds raised in Britain, but I suppose it's possible that at least some of it goes back to the US and funds the Democrat Party - so some of us Brits may have unwittingly funded the Democrats. I heard that BLM are outraged that a progressive was not chosed to be Joe Biden's running mate (and potential Vice President). They hate Kamala Harris - the person chosen.

Re: BLM And The New Cultural Revolution

Sun Sep 06, 2020 9:23 pm

Big Hill Blue wrote:Witnessed the BLM march through Bristol today.

Placards galore.

"Defund the police".

Hahaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa idiots.



were they social distancing .. thats the important bit..

Re: BLM And The New Cultural Revolution

Sun Sep 06, 2020 10:48 pm

Tony Blue Williams wrote:If we follow this matter back to it's lowest common denominator we simply get bullying by the strong on the weak. As the commentator said "history isn't repeating itself by it does rhyme"

BLM and woke culture have never been so strong. The reason being that anyone who speaks out against BLM & Wokeness faces the prospect of being cancelled, sacked or seeing their career go up in flames and lose their pensions.

This makes the opposition to BLM/Woke 'weak' and provides fertile ground for them to bully their agenda further. There must be many players who secretly don't want to take the knee. It's not because they don't agree that Black Lives Matter, but the fact that they believe All Lives Matter and no single ethnic group should be targeted for special privilege.

Unfortunately if they refused to take the knee they would be target, cancelled and out of a job.

Until people of all colours and backgrounds find their backbones to stand up to these bullies then this matter is only going to get worse for everyone.

Great comment there, Tony :thumbup:

As a slight aside, I watched the F1 this afternoon and I can't but appreciate how Lewis Hamilton is (somewhat ironically given his stance on BLM) a perfect example of 'racial integration' in the UK ;)

Re: BLM And The New Cultural Revolution

Mon Sep 07, 2020 7:18 am

Critical race theory is the most socially divisive ideology I’ve ever encountered, throw Marxism into the mix and we’re heading for a very bad place. I think the US really is on the verge of civil war and Trump getting re elected will tip it over the edge. Academia and a completely out of touch media have driven this.

Re: BLM And The New Cultural Revolution

Mon Sep 07, 2020 8:23 am

skidemin wrote:
Big Hill Blue wrote:Witnessed the BLM march through Bristol today.

Placards galore.

"Defund the police".

Hahaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa idiots.



were they social distancing .. thats the important bit..



Absolutely not. First thing I said to my Mrs.

Re: BLM And The New Cultural Revolution

Mon Sep 07, 2020 12:15 pm

Big Hill Blue wrote:
skidemin wrote:
Big Hill Blue wrote:Witnessed the BLM march through Bristol today.

Placards galore.

"Defund the police".

Hahaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa idiots.



were they social distancing .. thats the important bit..



Absolutely not. First thing I said to my Mrs.



i was being sarcastic.... seems if your ,young, normal , had a drink and enjoying every moaning minnie window twitcher from here to timbuktu get on their soap box , with lack of social distancing being the crime of the century ... but if your a scruffy nerd whose idea of a good day out is marching around a City wanting the police { the very people that make it possible to march hassle free } defunded...its more acceptable .

Re: BLM And The New Cultural Revolution

Mon Sep 07, 2020 2:16 pm

skidemin wrote:
Big Hill Blue wrote:
skidemin wrote:
Big Hill Blue wrote:Witnessed the BLM march through Bristol today.

Placards galore.

"Defund the police".

Hahaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa idiots.



were they social distancing .. thats the important bit..



Absolutely not. First thing I said to my Mrs.



i was being sarcastic.... seems if your ,young, normal , had a drink and enjoying every moaning minnie window twitcher from here to timbuktu get on their soap box , with lack of social distancing being the crime of the century ... but if your a scruffy nerd whose idea of a good day out is marching around a City wanting the police { the very people that make it possible to march hassle free } defunded...its more acceptable .


Correct

Re: BLM And The New Cultural Revolution

Mon Sep 07, 2020 6:14 pm

Tonteg Bluebird wrote:From what I've learned during the past few months, I understand taking the knee is a black anti racist gesture. Unfortunately, the taking the knee gesture has been hijacked by the BLM organisation to push their own agendas of attempting to defund the police, rioting, looting, vandalism and anything else they can think of to cause continual disruption and divisions within communities. What's been happening in Portland the past few months for example is shocking and is sadly one of several examples of the chaos BLM is causing.

In my opinion, Sky and football should be distancing itself from the taking the knee gesture and protesting against racism its own separate way. Sky won't do this though because they are controlled by the same people who control the media and control BLM - the establishment.

The BLM organisation is not anti racist, as BLM's agendas are simply not for the benefit of black people. A lot of black Americans are waking up to this. 2 black American ladies even poured paint over the BLM mural shouting "refund the police".

This link shows the people who really run BLM and where the BLM donations are really going. You can look up Susan Rosenberg etc yourselves if you want further evidence. https://www.washingtonexaminer.com/news ... -its-board

I'm 100% against the taking the knee gesture and in my opinion, football should be protesting against racism its own, separate way.



im not so sure about some things in your link but over all i agree with your post..
BLM funds here ? people have contributed not knowing what exactly they will do with the money , last i read was they had yet to reveal what it is spent on...

Re: BLM And The New Cultural Revolution

Mon Sep 07, 2020 7:58 pm

The ultimate irony, BLM org run by rich white blokes. Stashing millions away.

Re: BLM And The New Cultural Revolution

Tue Sep 08, 2020 3:40 pm

Fascinating how the very people who readily shout "injustice" fail to grasp the idiocy of their position. I remember working in
Walthamstow in the 90's and having a book left on my desk. The book was about black culture and the roots of racism within western culture from the times of slavery. I returned the book to it's owner a rather butch lady who insisted I read it as it would help my progression within the organisation, the lady was white. I refused suggested I had no interest and that I treated
people fairly whoever/whatever they were. I was rounded upon by her companion who basically called me "oh not another racist". I burst out laughing informing her she knew nothing about me. I did not last very long after said confrontation. Basically these people were fascists, if you do not believe, adhere to, follow what we say then your a racist. BLM is such an organisation a vacuous intellectually lazy rabble with little to say.

Re: BLM And The New Cultural Revolution

Tue Sep 08, 2020 4:32 pm

Big Hill Blue wrote:Witnessed the BLM march through Bristol today.

Placards galore.

"Defund the police".

Hahaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa idiots.

They don't need to talk about defunding the police, the tories are doing a good enough job of it already.

Re: BLM And The New Cultural Revolution

Tue Sep 08, 2020 4:44 pm

Jimmy Scoular wrote:Fascinating how the very people who readily shout "injustice" fail to grasp the idiocy of their position. I remember working in
Walthamstow in the 90's and having a book left on my desk. The book was about black culture and the roots of racism within western culture from the times of slavery. I returned the book to it's owner a rather butch lady who insisted I read it as it would help my progression within the organisation, the lady was white. I refused suggested I had no interest and that I treated
people fairly whoever/whatever they were. I was rounded upon by her companion who basically called me "oh not another racist". I burst out laughing informing her she knew nothing about me. I did not last very long after said confrontation. Basically these people were fascists, if you do not believe, adhere to, follow what we say then your a racist. BLM is such an organisation a vacuous intellectually lazy rabble with little to say.



Disgusting and disgraceful behaviour that will always boil my piss!

Merit only deserves recognition.

These smug sanctimonious cretins have no place anywhere.

Re: BLM And The New Cultural Revolution

Tue Sep 08, 2020 11:57 pm

Interesting thread this fair play.
Colin Kaepernick started this taking the knee after his career was ending and he still wanted to be relevant so he started taking the knee during the American National Anthem. BLM then took it over and if you take the knee you are supporting them and there ideologies.
De fund the police, (And for members of BLM to police themselves) Whites to give up there homes to Black people, the destruction of Capitalism,(should worry the players this one) open borders throughout the world. And Marxism to replace governments.
But if you do your research you will find BLM are funded by the open foundation who also fund Antifa (Prescribed terrorists) along with other groups.
But then research who funds the open foundation and then you will start to piece together what is going on.
But in America BLM are murdering scum who are egged on and encouraged by Nancy Pelosi and CNN just to mention a few.
So to take the knee in support of BLM you are either a Marxist sympathiser or thick as pig shit.
Time to say why the players are doing it ? especially Hoilett and Bacuna and Nelson who regularly do the ultra racist Black Power fist pump.

Re: BLM And The New Cultural Revolution

Thu Sep 10, 2020 3:19 pm

I am totally against taking the knee. It angers me when the black fist pump is also used, this is a symbol of black power and has nothing at all to do with racial equality.
I would also be utterly disgusted if someone did a white power salute yet it seems acceptable for a black power salute to be displayed.
Sky, CNN, never show the BLM and Antifa groups attacking white people. Many of the disturbances are fobbed off or simply not reported.

Re: BLM And The New Cultural Revolution

Thu Sep 10, 2020 6:57 pm

Talksport is going down the looney road also. Every guest is a black player, regardless of any broadcast skills..although at least the idiot Bingham has been sacked.

Re: BLM And The New Cultural Revolution

Thu Sep 10, 2020 7:31 pm

So are all the Australian cricket team racist for not taking the knee. I believe they are right not to. It’s about time this country stood up to these Marxists. We are probably the most tolerant country. I don’t see black, I see Bamber, Hoilett, etc. when I’m watching our games. :bluescarf: :bluescarf: :bluescarf: :bluescarf: